●● IRC: #boycottnovell @ FreeNode: Saturday, May 22, 2021 ●● ● May 22 [01:47] *liberty_box has quit (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) [01:47] *rianne has quit (Ping timeout: 260 seconds) [01:54] *rianne (~rianne@host81-154-169-167.range81-154.btcentralplus.com) has joined #boycottnovell [01:56] *liberty_box (~liberty@host81-154-169-167.range81-154.btcentralplus.com) has joined #boycottnovell ● May 22 [03:18] *saint_dogbert (~phobos@unaffiliated/phobos-anomaly/x-6744724) has joined #boycottnovell [03:19] saint_dogbert In accordance with the topic, I'd report Microsoft and Bill Gates, but everyone already knows they lift everything including the kitchen sink from other OS and projects ● May 22 [04:12] *liberty_box has quit (Ping timeout: 260 seconds) [04:12] *rianne has quit (Ping timeout: 260 seconds) [04:26] *liberty_box (~liberty@host81-154-169-167.range81-154.btcentralplus.com) has joined #boycottnovell [04:26] *rianne (~rianne@host81-154-169-167.range81-154.btcentralplus.com) has joined #boycottnovell ● May 22 [07:50] *schestowitz__ is now known as schestowitz ● May 22 [08:08] schestowitz saint_dogbert: report who to? 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[20:13] Techrights-sec also, on TR /wiki/index.php is getting hammered [20:14] schestowitz thanks, yes, we did seem to have had some surges, but it's under control thankfully [20:44] schestowitz All about TR: https://www.bitchute.com/video/M0n7OPbaXk6d/ [20:44] -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-www.bitchute.com | CHILD SEX COVERUPS - KEEP HAPPENING NEAR BILL GATES [20:45] Techrights-sec ok [20:45] Techrights-sec blocked by javascript ... [20:46] Techrights-sec isn't that site many far-right and whackos? [20:46] schestowitz I didn't say it was good [20:47] Techrights-sec wikipedia does not have a favorable entry for it: [20:47] Techrights-sec https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bitchute [20:47] -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-en.wikipedia.org | BitChute - Wikipedia [20:48] schestowitz I know, it seems bad from the get-go, but I watch it right now and it's not so unreasonable and crackly (like the comments are) [20:49] Techrights-sec Ok, good. [20:49] Techrights-sec Bitchute is apparently blocked in links on Twitter, so that is actually a plus [20:49] Techrights-sec in its favor [20:50] Techrights-sec But in general it is more than a bit dodgy [20:50] schestowitz it goes a little overboard now (I watch it) [20:51] Techrights-sec Remember opponents of Software Freedom and their controlling Interests have [20:51] Techrights-sec no qualms about using strawman fallacies. [20:52] schestowitz I would not endorse such a link, but I want to see if he has anything new to add (nothing so far) [20:52] Techrights-sec Speaking of which, how much overlap is between the list of signatories [20:52] Techrights-sec of the anti-RMS GitHub letter and the attempted take over of Freenode? [20:52] schestowitz the overlap is limited, not worth making a fuss about [20:54] Techrights-sec Ok. I had kind of expected more overlap. It's looking a bit more deceptive [20:54] Techrights-sec than the initial noise tried to make it look. Lee has been the target of [20:54] Techrights-sec the mob there. [20:54] schestowitz even kaniini and others in that camp admitted he was likely well-meaning [20:54] schestowitz to me, privately [20:56] Techrights-sec Yes, I'm getting that impression but I am very far removed from IRC and [20:56] Techrights-sec especially Freenode. [20:59] MinceR the road to hell is paved with good intentions ● May 22 [21:00] schestowitz LOL, now he goes a little bonkers in the video... and interjects crap [21:00] Techrights-sec privately is ok, but those in the know need to get their knowledge out [21:00] Techrights-sec in the public to squelch the misinformation + disnformation flying around [21:02] Techrights-sec it's only half funny. there are people that believe what they get [21:02] Techrights-sec from Bitchute. Same for Twitter... [21:05] schestowitz Now it's like 95% k00ky. It started with facts and then goes crazy. LOL! [21:06] Techrights-sec That's a common trajectory. They start with something factual, to borrow [21:06] Techrights-sec legitimacy, and then quickly wander off into weirdness and stupidity. [21:07] Techrights-sec https://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/slackware-14/anyone-following-the-freenode-drama-4175695313/ [21:07] -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-www.linuxquestions.org | Anyone following the Freenode drama? [21:08] schestowitz It's very long. What is the bottom line there? [21:09] Techrights-sec The rambling is part of the tactic. I'm not sure of the psychological term [21:09] Techrights-sec but the idea is to overwhelm people with bullshit so that then they [21:09] Techrights-sec accept the overflow as gospel. [21:09] schestowitz Yes, I heard about this a decade back [21:09] Techrights-sec In otherwords, there may be no point to the video. [21:10] schestowitz it did not teach me anything, except that those k00ks are dangerous [21:10] schestowitz but I already knew that. Sometone in Disapora alerted me about it moments ago. [21:11] Techrights-sec yes, very much so [21:11] Techrights-sec association is to be eschewed [21:12] Techrights-sec some of it is that they wish certain topics to be associated with k00ks [21:12] schestowitz this is why it's better to avoid open comments section there and guard IRC [21:12] schestowitz Being linked to isn't something we can control [21:12] schestowitz and the proximity is a one-sided thing [21:14] Techrights-sec yes, there is no control over who links, that is one of the aspects with [21:14] Techrights-sec a net benefit. But at the same time, it would be very harmful to both [21:14] Techrights-sec the topics at hand and the messengers relaying those topics to [21:14] Techrights-sec be thought of in the same anything as the k00ks [21:18] Techrights-sec Odysee is much better and Robertson had a recent video, you've already seen: [21:18] Techrights-sec https://odysee.com/@BrodieRobertson:5/stallman-isn't-out-of-touch-with:4 [21:18] Techrights-sec He starts out mentioning TR [21:18] Techrights-sec and then continues with facts and is not a k00k [21:18] -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-odysee.com | Stallman ISN'T OUT OF TOUCH With Technology! [21:19] schestowitz he reads us [21:20] Techrights-sec There's no real tech news so a lot of people are trying to subsitute [21:20] Techrights-sec social control media in its place and instead getting fed a [21:20] Techrights-sec steady diet of disinformation and occasional misinformation. [21:22] Techrights-sec Anyone, especially politicians, past or present, who think [21:22] Techrights-sec they are getting real information from social control media are very [21:22] Techrights-sec deluded and the decisions they make from those delusions are dangerous [21:22] schestowitz you links to 2 lunduke video. One I will comment on in my next article. The other is his pure BS misogynist BS one might say, basing it on Twitter 'poll' (yes, third time he lies about quitting twitter) [21:28] Techrights-sec yep [21:28] Techrights-sec Along those lines, I should force myself to sit through this one: [21:28] Techrights-sec https://odysee.com/@LBRYFoundationPodcast:f/LFCP-Livecast-2021-05-21-Ep-48-With-Bryan-Lunduke:c [21:28] Techrights-sec but it seemed very poor and I turned it off. However it may [21:28] Techrights-sec be important to find out what their positions are there at LBRY [21:28] -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-odysee.com | LFCP Livecast - 2021-05-21 - Ep 48 - With Bryan Lunduke [21:28] Techrights-sec I don't have much patience for windows boosters though. [21:28] schestowitz do you want to double-check my next article? [21:29] Techrights-sec twitter and fb are intentionally addictive [21:29] Techrights-sec they, and other social control media, have a presence outside the US [21:29] Techrights-sec and are thus a threat globally to democracy and freedom [21:29] Techrights-sec I can take a look but in some hours [21:29] Techrights-sec I am well overdue for signing off for a bit [21:29] schestowitz OK, you can amend or report mistakes after I publish [21:30] schestowitz I read carefully to avoid any slipping in (except social control media crap, I don't waste more time on that than I need to) [21:34] Techrights-sec I took a quick look. It is important to mention, as you have, the ZDNet and [21:34] Techrights-sec TechRepublic links. Also, in general, the ownership of the majority [21:34] Techrights-sec of 'news' by a very small and limited number of owners. [21:34] Techrights-sec It's often a layer or two deep but essential to point out. [21:34] Techrights-sec Most of what poses as journalism these days is 'say for pay' [21:34] Techrights-sec Most of the rest is beholden to major donors or board members. [21:34] Techrights-sec You often mention NPR and BBC being effectively partially owned by Gates, [21:34] Techrights-sec for example. [21:34] schestowitz among many others, but they are prominent and pesky [21:35] Techrights-sec signing off in about 5 minutes unless there is something else [21:35] schestowitz I'm on shift 1-9am [21:36] Techrights-sec see you on the other side ● May 22 [22:41] schestowitz https://twitter.com/privacylawGER/status/1396028136295444481 [22:41] -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@privacylawGER: "#EPO and #Microsoft Collude to Break the Law Part I (Intro): A Fresh Data Protection Scandal Brewing at the EPO? https://t.co/tg8q3vdbL5 [22:41] -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@privacylawGER: "#EPO and #Microsoft Collude to Break the Law Part I (Intro): A Fresh Data Protection Scandal Brewing at the EPO? https://t.co/tg8q3vdbL5 [22:42] schestowitz " [22:42] schestowitz "#EPO and #Microsoft Collude to Break the Law Part I (Intro): A Fresh Data Protection Scandal Brewing at the EPO?" via #Techrights: start of a multipart series of articles: http://techrights.org/2021/03/11/epoleaks-report-march-2021-part-1/ [22:42] schestowitz . FYI @Ra_Koellner [22:42] -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-techrights.org | EPO and Microsoft Collude to Break the Law Part I (Intro): A Fresh Data Protection Scandal Brewing at the EPO? | Techrights [22:42] schestowitz @ckroesch [22:42] schestowitz @peterhense [22:42] schestowitz " [22:42] schestowitz https://twitter.com/jabozoff/status/1395934606952652804 [22:42] -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@jabozoff: @observers1984 @ArtValley818_ ummmm.... https://t.co/gwmbip8DRL [22:42] -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell--> techrights.org | The Death of Gary Kildall Remains a Mystery to This Date | Techrights [22:43] schestowitz https://twitter.com/glynmoody/status/1396081639281864706 [22:43] -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@glynmoody: potentially big: talking about money gets people's attention... #climatecrisis https://t.co/1KDKcIRlBP [22:43] -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@schestowitz: NEWS #RollingStone #Environment #Biden Signs Executive Order to Examine Financial Impact of #ClimateChange https://t.co/GMJpZOMEa7 [22:43] schestowitz https://twitter.com/TalentCoop/status/1396068618224427010 [22:43] -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@TalentCoop: So wrong for consumers, environment.... So right for profit and shareholders. Another area of 'too much control's i https://t.co/2Ionwjheej [22:43] -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@TalentCoop: So wrong for consumers, environment.... So right for profit and shareholders. Another area of 'too much control's i https://t.co/2Ionwjheej [22:43] schestowitz " [22:43] schestowitz So wrong for consumers, environment.... [22:43] schestowitz So right for profit and shareholders. [22:43] schestowitz Another area of 'too much control's in the hands of a few tech giants ? [22:43] schestowitz " [22:44] schestowitz https://twitter.com/ubuntourist/status/1396059368299368458 [22:44] -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@ubuntourist: Why we need #OpenSourceHardware #OpenSource @hackaday @HacDC #hackerspaces @NationOfMakers @oshwassociation https://t.co/y2Y3Rqtfxu [22:44] -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@schestowitz: NEWS #Bloomberg # #Microsoft and #Apple Wage War on Gadget Right-to-Repair Laws https://t.co/Qy9u0Gu7gh [22:44] schestowitz https://twitter.com/ubuntourist/status/1396059319087603715 [22:44] -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@ubuntourist: Why we need #OpenSourceHardware #OpenSource @hackaday @HacDC #hackerspaces @NationOfMakers @oshwassociation https://t.co/4ohlA1Zi5N [22:44] -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@schestowitz: NEWS #MacRumors # Apple's Efforts to Block 'Right to Repair' Laws Highlighted in New Report https://t.co/gxGnhHmOW9 [22:44] schestowitz https://twitter.com/AmbyR00/status/1396029872166813697 [22:44] -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@AmbyR00: 17 true stories about switching to Linux: https://t.co/M8Rp9JmYVJ Via @schestowitz https://t.co/ZLJ3S76ynv [22:44] -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell--> opensource.com | 17 true stories about switching to Linux | Opensource.com [22:44] -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@schestowitz: 17 true stories about switching to Linux https://t.co/Mimr53qKQi #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines