●● IRC: #boycottnovell @ Techrights IRC Network: Saturday, October 22, 2022 ●● ● Oct 22 [00:21] *psydruid (~psydruid@jevhxkzmtrbww.irc) has joined #boycottnovell [00:38] *_Mio14 (~quassel@freenode-54d.23i.qunln7.IP) has joined #boycottnovell [00:39] *Mio14 has quit (Ping timeout: 120 seconds) [00:51] *libertybox_ is now known as roy_techrights ● Oct 22 [01:08] *parsifal has quit (Quit: Leaving) ● Oct 22 [02:14] *DaemonFC has quit (Quit: Leaving) [02:53] *DaemonFC (~daemonfc@39d8uxqiv89kg.irc) has joined #boycottnovell ● Oct 22 [03:00] *techrights_guest|1 (~257893fa@54n9xgft8g6u2.irc) has joined #boycottnovell [03:01] *techrights_guest|1 has quit (Quit: Connection closed) ● Oct 22 [05:20] *DaemonFC has quit (Quit: Leaving) [05:21] *DaemonFC (~daemonfc@39d8uxqiv89kg.irc) has joined #boycottnovell ● Oct 22 [06:48] *starstreak has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) ● Oct 22 [07:28] schestowitz-TR don't make fun of "tweets" [07:28] schestowitz-TR Saudis co-own the platform now [07:28] schestowitz-TR hatin' on tweets is Islamophobic [07:28] schestowitz-TR soon, all m tweets must be oligarchs-compliant and halal [07:33] schestowitz[TR] Just wanted to rn in here and say the site over on gemini is magnificent! [07:50] schestowitz-TR yle: this time 5 short paragraph about a tweet [07:50] schestowitz-TR better than just 4 paragraphs [07:50] schestowitz-TR 30-50 words total [07:50] schestowitz-TR fits in two "tweets", "just add water... or headline" [07:50] techrights-sec ack [07:54] *u-amarsh04 has quit (Quit: Konversation terminated!) [07:54] *u-amarsh04 has quit (Quit: Konversation terminated!) [07:58] *u-amarsh04 (~amarsh04@22agg6qj8dxhg.irc) has joined #boycottnovell [07:58] *u-amarsh04 (~amarsh04@freenode-rmogvn.g0d7.dtdf.mc4289.IP) has joined #boycottnovell ● Oct 22 [08:20] schestowitz-TR [08:19] Elon Musk Plans To Make Twitter Profitable By Firing 75% Of The Staf https://www.techdirt.com/2022/10/21/report-elon-musk-plans-to-make-twitter-profitable-by-firing-75-of-the-staff/ | Source: Techdirt [08:20] -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-Report: Elon Musk Plans To Make Twitter Profitable By Firing 75% Of The Staff | Techdirt [08:20] schestowitz-TR 'skeleton crew' [08:22] schestowitz-TR a crew that tortures you cna puts your skeleton in a tandoori oven [08:22] techrights-sec Thunderbird seems to consistently screw up threading in the inbox. [08:22] techrights-sec It keeps putting unrelated messages together. [08:26] techrights-sec It keeps putting unrelated messages together, even though the messages contain [08:26] techrights-sec proper Message-ID and References fields in their headers. WTF is Baker doing with all that Google money? There [08:26] techrights-sec is less and less to show for it each release, like they are going backwards. [08:27] schestowitz-TR musk will do to twitter what baker does to firefox and mozilla/email [08:27] schestowitz-TR cui bono? [08:27] schestowitz-TR the capital the musk comes partly from saudis [08:27] schestowitz-TR no twitter, no saudi dissidents in twitter [08:29] techrights-sec Good riddance to twitter, but thunderbird and firefox had been quite useful. [08:29] techrights-sec Yes even Firefox was useful once upon a time. [08:29] techrights-sec With the ongoing demise of thunderbird I see her as complicit in the elimination [08:29] techrights-sec of e-mail as a commodity service. ● Oct 22 [09:10] *parsifal (~parsifal@8vte7vm6885eu.irc) has joined #boycottnovell ● Oct 22 [10:04] schestowitz-TR going to town, rianne needs rewplacwmene tmouse asap ● Oct 22 [11:12] *DaemonFC has quit (connection closed) [11:57] schestowitz-TR found stuff in 6 of 7 shops [11:57] schestowitz-TR to at least make the journey worth it, aside from getting a new durable mouse [11:57] schestowitz-TR there was some guy at the gadgets and hardware store asking about Office [11:57] schestowitz-TR and the shopkeeper explains to him that's what a licence is for [11:57] schestowitz-TR they can't tell the difference between hardware store and MS BS [11:58] schestowitz-TR he basically did NOT like the latest version of Office [11:58] schestowitz-TR and wanted an OLD version [11:58] schestowitz-TR I didn't say anything [11:58] schestowitz-TR the shopkeeper asked him, what OS he was using [11:58] schestowitz-TR the guy could not even answer the question [11:59] techrights-sec ack [11:59] techrights-sec excellent that there were items which could be combined to make the trip [11:59] techrights-sec worthwhile [11:59] techrights-sec Typical, though, that most don't even know what an OS is. Sometimes there [11:59] techrights-sec are those that seem to think that there is only "Windows" ● Oct 22 [12:02] schestowitz-TR exactly [12:02] schestowitz-TR I'll post some articles shortly, I'm off work till monday evening [12:02] schestowitz-TR there si a football match near us in 3 hours [12:02] schestowitz-TR so I had to avoid the rush [12:02] schestowitz-TR 3 masks [12:02] techrights-sec as part of the hardware [12:02] techrights-sec Big crowds then. [12:02] techrights-sec :/ [12:04] schestowitz-TR my dad agrees with me on most of these things, but for practical reasons it's harder for him to isolate [12:04] schestowitz-TR as a high risk group, his group might account for more than 10% extra deaths [12:04] schestowitz-TR at least he is aware [12:04] schestowitz-TR thought on the way: pfizer: we solve the issue, now everyone can infect everyone! WIN! [12:04] schestowitz-TR Salk: we solved polio; now let's spread polio to 4 billion people, no worries about hospitalisation [12:04] schestowitz-TR the stadium's carrying capacity is about 50k, with some coming early for pub etc. [12:04] schestowitz-TR and it usualyl sells out (the team is considered best in the world or on par with best) [12:36] techrights-sec ack [12:36] schestowitz-TR lots of wioring work here [12:36] schestowitz-TR rianen decided she wants my mouse and I take the new one [12:36] schestowitz-TR it feels better so far [12:36] schestowitz-TR and fully compatible with all the previous x configs for device #, special key identifiers etc. [12:36] schestowitz-TR 3 mice upstairs (rianne's PCs) [12:36] schestowitz-TR 3 downstairs (mine) [12:36] schestowitz-TR but we use barrier for one mouse to be master [12:36] techrights-sec ack ● Oct 22 [14:40] *u-amarsh04 has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) ● Oct 22 [15:53] schestowitz-TR quite a spectacle [15:53] schestowitz-TR amazing how upc tries to appoint judges who are in fact working for private patent companies [15:53] schestowitz-TR this is going to go down in flame [15:53] schestowitz-TR and there is more material by which to challenge the whole system [15:53] schestowitz-TR i want to ask though, [15:53] schestowitz-TR how much energy should TR allocate to this issue relative to other topics? [15:55] techrights-sec UPC -> European Patent Convention? [15:55] techrights-sec UPC -> Euroepan Patent Court> [15:55] techrights-sec ? [15:55] techrights-sec Both are worthy topics. The latter needs to be made to stay dead. [15:55] techrights-sec and dance on the grave . ● Oct 22 [16:00] schestowitz-TR ok, so you say it is indeed a high priority [16:00] schestowitz-TR I will do a video later on, I wait for more comments to pile upo [16:00] schestowitz-TR there are two new threads [16:00] schestowitz-TR it was timed for friday to hide the extent of the conflicts [16:00] schestowitz-TR and people still rush to call out the BS [16:00] schestowitz-TR so a good video and article will highlight the comments, not the propaganda [16:00] schestowitz-TR so now today, maybe monday when some more fodder piles up ;-) [16:00] techrights-sec Thanks [16:00] techrights-sec ack [16:02] *u-amarsh04 has quit (Connection closed) [16:02] *u-amarsh04 (~amarsh04@22agg6qj8dxhg.irc) has joined #boycottnovell [16:02] *u-amarsh04 (~amarsh04@freenode-rmogvn.g0d7.dtdf.mc4289.IP) has joined #boycottnovell [16:04] schestowitz-TR i gave ffii a word about it [16:04] schestowitz-TR with upc, we always felt "behind" [16:04] schestowitz-TR the boosters lie sand play psychological games [16:04] schestowitz-TR we need to fight back with mockery, imho [16:04] schestowitz-TR and expose the lies [16:05] schestowitz-TR in the process they discredit the european system [16:05] schestowitz-TR like 4 years of trump [16:05] techrights-sec I hope the FFII can help. Can the FSF be resurrected too? [16:05] techrights-sec The EFF is a lost cause but there is still an obligation to make a symbolic [16:05] techrights-sec effort. [16:05] schestowitz-TR if you saw my last video on eff or read the textual summary, eff ddoes not even deal witth patents in the us [16:05] schestowitz-TR anymore, only one blog posts in 50 days! [16:06] techrights-sec Right so they can be contacted and their lack of response mocked [16:08] schestowitz-TR open letter to eff? [16:21] techrights-sec Possibly, but one that is well-thought out and covers all the key points. [16:21] techrights-sec It's nothing to do in a hurry and should take quite a few days to draft. IMHO [16:28] schestowitz-TR i've started drafting the monday-ish post re upc [16:28] schestowitz-TR draft [16:30] techrights-sec checking [16:30] techrights-sec (who around TR can help with the drafting of the open letter? It would be [16:30] techrights-sec very good to get input from several people) [16:30] techrights-sec If opensource.com is IBM it should be mentioned in the article, if it is not [16:30] techrights-sec then some kind of segue is needed to connect the last paragraph to the rest [16:30] techrights-sec of the text [16:30] schestowitz-TR I will add clarifying sentences [16:30] schestowitz-TR re eff, someone who knows upc needs to draft [16:30] schestowitz-TR no hurry [16:41] techrights-sec yes [16:41] techrights-sec no hurry on that [16:42] schestowitz-TR UPC is ALWAYS "real soon" [16:42] schestowitz-TR Rule #1 [16:42] schestowitz-TR don't believe them [16:49] techrights-sec ack ● Oct 22 [17:09] techrights-sec The arguments that the RIAA are using against AI using copyright [17:09] techrights-sec apply even more strongly to m$ copilot in the case of software licensing. [17:09] techrights-sec It is a situation to watch. [17:09] techrights-sec https://torrentfreak.com/riaa-flags-artificial-intelligence-music-mixer-as-emerging-copyright-threat-221017/ [17:09] -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-RIAA Flags Artificial Intelligence Music Mixer as Emerging Copyright Threat * TorrentFreak [17:12] schestowitz-TR we don't have the most RELEVANT material on github and copilot [17:12] schestowitz-TR but we have many exclusives coming [17:12] schestowitz-TR is my latest draft clearer? I changed a lot [17:12] schestowitz-TR on upc, we need a clear strategy [17:12] schestowitz-TR team upc plays dirty, we don't [17:12] schestowitz-TR and "nice guys finish last" [17:14] techrights-sec Artists working within all kinds of media have raised concerns in recent yearsand increasingly, with the rising [17:14] techrights-sec popularity of text-to-image generators like DALL-Eabout whether AI-generated art infringes on individuals copyr [17:14] techrights-sec ight. Most AI content generators depend on datasets that are filled with original artworks, texts, or audio, and [17:14] techrights-sec use those original works without the owners permission. """ [17:15] schestowitz-TR they should quit calling HEY HI [17:15] schestowitz-TR for starters [17:15] schestowitz-TR it'sa fair user-ish blender [17:15] schestowitz-TR and not a new issue [17:15] schestowitz-TR it's just more automated now [17:15] schestowitz-TR which makes it accessible to more people and harder to enforce again [17:16] techrights-sec Yes, a strategy is needed, but I am out of ideas there, at least for the moment. [17:16] techrights-sec That is aside from resurrecting the FSF a little. [17:16] techrights-sec UPC -> European Patent Convention ? [17:16] techrights-sec UPC -> European Patent Court? [17:17] schestowitz-TR upc=unified patent court [17:17] schestowitz-TR one strategy is, do nothing [17:17] schestowitz-TR as it might fall apart when defendants bring it to a high court [17:17] schestowitz-TR on all sorts of grounds [17:17] schestowitz-TR and we can focus on other issues [17:18] schestowitz-TR seeing that nobody i the EU enforces the f*ing law !!! [17:26] techrights-sec That last point, enforcing the law, should be explored yet again. What recourse [17:26] techrights-sec is there to pursue enforcement? [17:43] *u-amarsh04 has quit (*.net *.split) [17:43] *schestowitz has quit (*.net *.split) [17:43] *rianne_ has quit (*.net *.split) [17:43] *lightbringer has quit (*.net *.split) [17:43] schestowitz-TR just check gemini and http+https log sizes for tm-new [17:43] schestowitz-TR web is over 2m in sept., similar so far in oct. [17:43] schestowitz-TR gemini also gets a good chunk [17:43] schestowitz-TR going to finalise my post and take rest [17:43] schestowitz-TR rianne will then post links [17:43] *u-amarsh04 (~amarsh04@freenode-rmogvn.g0d7.dtdf.mc4289.IP) has joined #boycottnovell [17:43] *rianne_ (~rianne@freenode-vjf.peq.k31cok.IP) has joined #boycottnovell [17:43] *lightbringer (mincer@freenode/user/lightbringer) has joined #boycottnovell [17:43] *schestowitz (~schestowi@freenode/user/schestowitz) has joined #boycottnovell ● Oct 22 [18:10] techrights-sec ack [18:27] *starstreak (~starstreak@muarsy2vret2q.irc) has joined #boycottnovell [18:28] *_Mio14 has quit (Ping timeout: 120 seconds) [18:30] starstreak linucks btw [18:33] *Mio14 (~quassel@freenode-a3a.og6.3ohhgp.IP) has joined #boycottnovell ● Oct 22 [21:57] schestowitz > > [21:57] -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-patentblog.kluweriplaw.com | The UPC - Hopes and Headaches - Kluwer Patent Blog [21:57] schestowitz > [21:57] schestowitz > We need to make some more noise :-) [21:57] schestowitz > [21:57] schestowitz > It's not over. [21:57] schestowitz Grabinski is a pro-swpat judge, there is an 2019 report from a confrence on ipkat where he says 'as such' blahblah. [21:57] schestowitz Search for airbus [21:57] schestowitz http://patentblog.kluweriplaw.com/2022/10/21/the-upc-hopes-and-headaches/ ● Oct 22 [22:30] *DaemonFC (~daemonfc@39d8uxqiv89kg.irc) has joined #boycottnovell [22:58] *starstreak has quit (Quit: Leaving) ● Oct 22 [23:01] *starstreak (~starstreak@muarsy2vret2q.irc) has joined #boycottnovell