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| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/bagder/status/1208503586268893184 | Dec 22 00:47 |
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| -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@bagder: @emilengler @schestowitz That's the same for all hosting no matter where. | Dec 22 00:47 | |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/SleepyPenguin1/status/1208532678628257792 | Dec 22 00:47 |
| -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@SleepyPenguin1: As I said about Ring when advertising arrived for it on TV in the United Kingdom it's awful.. @schestowitz 'We Te… https://t.co/TuwqWAqqGY | Dec 22 00:47 | |
| -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@SleepyPenguin1: As I said about Ring when advertising arrived for it on TV in the United Kingdom it's awful.. @schestowitz 'We Te… https://t.co/TuwqWAqqGY | Dec 22 00:47 | |
| schestowitz | "As I said about Ring when advertising arrived for it on TV in the United Kingdom it's awful.. @schestowitz 'We Tested Ring's Security. It's Awful' ..." | Dec 22 00:47 |
| schestowitz | > It is all working incredibly well. Everything I need and much more is available and I think it allows me bring a presentable product to readers, | Dec 22 01:01 |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/murmosh/status/1208787886281252865 | Dec 22 16:46 |
| -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@murmosh: @schestowitz Re your blog: Page layout is too dense and full, 90ies, which could repel readers. The article address… https://t.co/mjuCI4mkUK | Dec 22 16:46 | |
| -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@murmosh: @schestowitz Re your blog: Page layout is too dense and full, 90ies, which could repel readers. The article address… https://t.co/mjuCI4mkUK | Dec 22 16:46 | |
| schestowitz | "Re your blog: Page layout is too dense and full, 90ies, which could repel readers. The article addresses more than one res without hard non-self-referential evidence they're connected (just split issues). Predictions are without links to (non-self-referential) history. ¬ @ me" | Dec 22 16:46 |
| schestowitz | All that 'mobile'-friendly stuff would be a major regression | Dec 22 16:46 |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/doombadroid/status/1208794396327415809 | Dec 22 17:27 |
| -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@doombadroid: @schestowitz You mean liberal run Chicago which has the strictest gun laws in the nation? | Dec 22 17:27 | |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/gerge42/status/1208798648039018499 | Dec 22 17:29 |
| -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@gerge42: @schestowitz Good question. But 20.000 pages come from the Manning trial. I am sure they will hightlight the important parts. | Dec 22 17:29 | |
| schestowitz | "Good question. But 20.000 pages come from the Manning trial. I am sure they will hightlight the important parts." | Dec 22 17:29 |
| schestowitz | https://pleroma.site/notice/9qDusvH0FS8kx2tpqK | Dec 22 17:33 |
| schestowitz | @schestowitz I see. The counterpart of Intel's ME'" | Dec 22 17:33 |
| -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-pleroma.site | Pleroma | Dec 22 17:33 | |
| schestowitz | https://pleroma.site/notice/9qDyzSYLpLoLilO1Kq | Dec 22 17:33 |
| schestowitz | "Red Hat Chillin' Peppers" | Dec 22 17:33 |
| -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-pleroma.site | Pleroma | Dec 22 17:33 | |
| schestowitz | https://pleroma.site/notice/9qE1r1dIKe7Xm7MuyO | Dec 22 17:33 |
| schestowitz | "@schestowitz I must be missing something. How is that a bribe?" | Dec 22 17:33 |
| -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-pleroma.site | Pleroma | Dec 22 17:33 | |
| schestowitz | hush money to critics | Dec 22 17:34 |
| schestowitz | https://pleroma.site/notice/9qEEAGinegpnWYszr6 | Dec 22 17:34 |
| schestowitz | "That said, this is still a far better situation than it could have been if they'd all declined to be involved." | Dec 22 17:34 |
| -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-pleroma.site | Pleroma | Dec 22 17:34 | |
| schestowitz | This whole 'domain' need to perish; they just try to openwash surveillance | Dec 22 17:35 |
| schestowitz | https://pleroma.site/notice/9qEFl8qtyZebmpp1Xc | Dec 22 17:35 |
| schestowitz | "you know, you might want to rethink how you're phrasing that; saying "#breton = #corruption" gives a lot of ammunition to whoever wants to smear you as a bigot, since "Breton" is the name of an ethnic minority in France (as well as the surname of the person to whom you presumably intend to refer)" | Dec 22 17:35 |
| -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-pleroma.site | Pleroma | Dec 22 17:35 | |
| schestowitz | I did not know. But what I wrote has sufficient context to clarify and avert confusion. | Dec 22 17:36 |
| schestowitz | Re: Donation links | Dec 22 17:54 |
| schestowitz | > I notice the 'donate' button goes to Paypal: | Dec 22 17:54 |
| schestowitz | > | Dec 22 17:54 |
| schestowitz | > http://techrights.org/2019/12/22/back-end-toil/ | Dec 22 17:54 |
| schestowitz | > | Dec 22 17:54 |
| schestowitz | > Have you considered either Stripe or Patreon as well? A lot of people | Dec 22 17:54 |
| schestowitz | > avoid Paypal. Using Paypal carries a big risk of keeping your money | Dec 22 17:54 |
| schestowitz | > from you permanently. | Dec 22 17:54 |
| -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-techrights.org | Working at the Back End During the Holiday Period | Techrights | Dec 22 17:54 | |
| schestowitz | That's the same account Rianne uses for ebay. I'm open to adding more payment options, but we got so few donations (3 this month, maybe 3 in the WHOLE year!), so I wonder if it's worth the trouble/time... | Dec 22 17:54 |
| schestowitz | You might want to read closely today's (to be published tomorrow) IRC logs for #techrights | Dec 22 17:55 |
| schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/16165602#b2c22d60ca3b0137f0360242ac120002 | Dec 22 17:56 |
| -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: No, #extinctionrebellion You're doing it wrong if you use #facebook Mostly #surveillance and lockout https://twitter.com/XRebellionUK/status/1180482681802575878?p=p #deletefacebook | Dec 22 17:56 | |
| -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@XRebellionUK: Our livestream has moved to Facebook > https://t.co/bB5qSPunJl Over 7000 people are heading to London for the… https://t.co/snvE0saJ6q | Dec 22 17:56 | |
| schestowitz | " | Dec 22 17:56 |
| schestowitz | noisebob@diaspora.1312.media - 3 months ago | Dec 22 17:56 |
| schestowitz | LOL | Dec 22 17:56 |
| schestowitz |  | Dec 22 17:56 |
| schestowitz | Chewie - 3 months ago | Dec 22 17:56 |
| schestowitz | Yup, | Dec 22 17:56 |
| schestowitz | I did offer to help them in this regard, but I guess they’re 2 busy 2 care atm :( | Dec 22 17:56 |
| schestowitz | Shame. At least some of their supporters r using signal, but that’s still not decentralized. | Dec 22 17:56 |
| schestowitz |  | Dec 22 17:56 |
| schestowitz | Digit - 3 months ago | Dec 22 17:57 |
| schestowitz | epic facepalm. | Dec 22 17:57 |
| schestowitz | tragic, so often done. tragic, so many know no other way. a lot of anthropic trouble. | Dec 22 17:57 |
| schestowitz |  | Dec 22 17:57 |
| schestowitz | Digit - 3 months ago | Dec 22 17:57 |
| schestowitz | also, smacks a little of ecco-terrorism. | Dec 22 17:57 |
| schestowitz | " | Dec 22 17:57 |
| schestowitz | Is that like Labour sending letters from the IPLO to ‘encourage all to hear’ their message? | Dec 22 17:58 |
| schestowitz | "https://joindiaspora.com/posts/16220051#97a2e6f0cf030137adc452540039b762" | Dec 22 17:58 |
| -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: #uk Greens send letter to the city to encourage all to hear #ExtinctionRebellion warning https://www.greenparty.org.uk/news/2019/10/08/greens-send-letter-to-the-city-to-encourage-all-to-hear-extinction-rebellion-warning/ | Dec 22 17:58 | |
| -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell--> www.greenparty.org.uk | Greens send letter to the city to encourage all to hear Extinction Rebellion warning | The Green Party | Dec 22 17:58 | |
| schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/15281894#b1594c007a20013725620cc47a07853c | Dec 22 17:58 |
| -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: "More than 40 percent of insects could go extinct globally in the next few decades. So why did the U.S. Environmental Protection Agency (EPA) last week ok the 'emergency' use of the bee-killing pesticide sulfoxaflor on 13.9 million acres?" https://www.ecowatch.com/emergency-trump-epa-pesticides-2638979880.html | Dec 22 17:58 | |
| schestowitz | "that alone should justify impeachment." | Dec 22 17:58 |
| -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell--> www.ecowatch.com | Trump EPA OKs ‘Emergency’ Use of Bee-Killing Pesticide on 13.9 Million Acres - EcoWatch | Dec 22 17:58 | |
| schestowitz | "wouldnt want the people to have brain cells and not have tumours now would we… fuck the bees. we’ve got to keep the people in line, and protect the corporation’s profits! *vomit*" | Dec 22 17:58 |
| schestowitz | Part 25? | Dec 22 18:12 |
| schestowitz | https://suepo.org/december_2019_press_articles/d-45045 | Dec 22 18:12 |
| -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-suepo.org | | Dec 22 18:12 | |
| schestowitz | >> BTW, what happened to ACLU in the daily links/feed/RSS? | Dec 22 18:40 |
| schestowitz | > I remmed them out. They are now blocked by javascript as far as I can | Dec 22 18:40 |
| schestowitz | > tell and the RSS feed itself seems malformed. They have several feeds | Dec 22 18:40 |
| schestowitz | > but all are bad. See this one: | Dec 22 18:40 |
| schestowitz | > | Dec 22 18:40 |
| schestowitz | > https://www.aclu.org/taxonomy/feed-term/8/feed | Dec 22 18:40 |
| schestowitz | > | Dec 22 18:40 |
| schestowitz | > And for an example article, see | Dec 22 18:40 |
| schestowitz | > | Dec 22 18:40 |
| schestowitz | > https://www.aclu.org/news/civil-liberties/four-lawyers-four-projects-one-non-stop-year | Dec 22 18:40 |
| schestowitz | So rightly... we should just drop them. They did damage to themselves with this pseudo-novelty. All we need is a couple kilobytes of text, but instead they run computer programs. Maybe EFF is next... their old site was a lot better. | Dec 22 18:40 |
| -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-www.aclu.org | News & Commentary | American Civil Liberties Union | Dec 22 18:40 | |
| schestowitz | > ok. What is there? | Dec 22 18:41 |
| schestowitz | 1. stuff about GitHub | Dec 22 18:41 |
| schestowitz | 2. stuff about Gates | Dec 22 18:41 |
| schestowitz | 3. grassroots | Dec 22 18:41 |
| schestowitz | >>> ok. What is there? | Dec 22 18:48 |
| schestowitz | >> 1. stuff about GitHub | Dec 22 18:48 |
| schestowitz | >> 2. stuff about Gates | Dec 22 18:48 |
| schestowitz | >> 3. grassroots | Dec 22 18:48 |
| schestowitz | > Thanks. I'll go through it carefully tomorrow. | Dec 22 18:48 |
| schestowitz | In short, I made a 'backup'. Also, we need more people as activists. | Dec 22 18:48 |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/DMCANews/status/1208815986880573440 | Dec 22 19:00 |
| -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@DMCANews: @schestowitz On a LMS gig as PM, we evaluated Latitude. Online claims of being open source as late as 2007 and in 2… https://t.co/GNtUi8x0OZ | Dec 22 19:00 | |
| -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@DMCANews: @schestowitz On a LMS gig as PM, we evaluated Latitude. Online claims of being open source as late as 2007 and in 2… https://t.co/GNtUi8x0OZ | Dec 22 19:00 | |
| schestowitz | "On a LMS gig as PM, we evaluated Latitude. Online claims of being open source as late as 2007 and in 2011. IMHO, if ppl used latitude instead of moodle, that stole from contractors + Moodle. Confirmed Nov 2017: "Hi Marcia, Our LMS is not Open Source, we have Open Development."" | Dec 22 19:00 |
| schestowitz | If you can send me all related material, I will do an article about it. Sounds important. | Dec 22 19:01 |
| schestowitz | >>> I notice the 'donate' button goes to Paypal: | Dec 22 19:04 |
| schestowitz | >>> | Dec 22 19:04 |
| schestowitz | >>> http://techrights.org/2019/12/22/back-end-toil/ | Dec 22 19:04 |
| schestowitz | >>> | Dec 22 19:04 |
| schestowitz | > I think that part of the barrier is the use of paypal there. Think | Dec 22 19:04 |
| schestowitz | > about those who read or would read TR. Most are not going to accept | Dec 22 19:04 |
| schestowitz | > Paypal for any reason. It'd be very good to have at least one | Dec 22 19:04 |
| schestowitz | > non-Paypal option. | Dec 22 19:04 |
| -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-techrights.org | Working at the Back End During the Holiday Period | Techrights | Dec 22 19:04 | |
| schestowitz | I seem to recall Stripe or Patreon scandals. Are they objectively ethical? Maybe those scandals related to sex workers or casters who did 'sexy' things... | Dec 22 19:04 |
| schestowitz | > yeah thats not terribly different from what i figured youd say. | Dec 22 19:16 |
| schestowitz | > | Dec 22 19:16 |
| schestowitz | > theres nothing wrong with your logic either, as far as i know. | Dec 22 19:16 |
| schestowitz | If you put your weight behind someone, you want to be sure it's a consistent character, otherwise they can turn against you. | Dec 22 19:16 |
| schestowitz | >>> I can't say that I recall any articles on that. | Dec 22 19:38 |
| schestowitz | >> If I get a couple more donations (trust me, it's laughable so far), I'll | Dec 22 19:38 |
| schestowitz | >> put time into setting something up other than PP. | Dec 22 19:38 |
| schestowitz | > I'd guess that there would not be many donations but also I'd guess that | Dec 22 19:38 |
| schestowitz | > using paypal holds back some more donors. Lunduke is pushing Patreon | Dec 22 19:38 |
| schestowitz | > rather hard but I think he gets a lot of money through it. | Dec 22 19:38 |
| schestowitz | If those were enough, he wouldn't chase jobs (SUSE, LJ, Purism), so even he cannot be self-sustaining on that alone... | Dec 22 19:38 |
| schestowitz | >> Thankfully I do not depend on donations. I'm on shift until 9am. I | Dec 22 19:38 |
| schestowitz | >> started two hours ago! | Dec 22 19:38 |
| schestowitz | > Wow. That's far more than 12 hours. | Dec 22 19:38 |
| schestowitz | Wife will help... | Dec 22 19:38 |
| schestowitz | We can always start and check ntop if traffic increases still... | Dec 22 19:42 |
| schestowitz | It's still installed on hv, but I don't think much of use can be learned from it. | Dec 22 19:42 |
| schestowitz | Should I ask already for a container to play in on hv? Assuming we want containers at all... alternatively I can install LAMP stack on it and hope it doesn't cause a mess. It has its own IP address. | Dec 22 19:42 |
| schestowitz | Any upside/downside to running both site on 'bare metal' and not separated? | Dec 22 19:42 |
| schestowitz | > Yes, please. Git seems to be the way to go. There is at least one | Dec 22 19:48 |
| schestowitz | > additional program which can read Git archives. | Dec 22 19:48 |
| schestowitz | On HV? | Dec 22 19:48 |
| schestowitz | talking to the one who set up https://git.pleroma.social/kaniini at the moment. We could use a nice GUI through which to make all site-related stuff available for all. MuckRack and ProPublica also do such things... | Dec 22 19:53 |
| -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-git.pleroma.social | kaniini · GitLab | Dec 22 19:53 | |
| schestowitz | "Shpuld Shpludson" | Dec 22 19:55 |
| schestowitz | https://git.pleroma.social/lambadalambda/kenoma | Dec 22 19:55 |
| -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-git.pleroma.social | lain / Kenoma · GitLab | Dec 22 19:55 | |
| schestowitz | >>> Yes, please. Git seems to be the way to go. There is at least one | Dec 22 19:56 |
| schestowitz | >>> additional program which can read Git archives. | Dec 22 19:56 |
| schestowitz | >> On HV? | Dec 22 19:56 |
| schestowitz | >> Wherever you would like to archive the scripts. The archive should be | Dec 22 19:56 |
| schestowitz | > private though since there are database passwords in some of the shell | Dec 22 19:56 |
| schestowitz | > scripts. | Dec 22 19:56 |
| schestowitz | The scripts can be retyped to fetch such parameters from external sources such as files. | Dec 22 19:56 |
| schestowitz | >> talking to the one who set up https://git.pleroma.social/kaniini at the | Dec 22 20:00 |
| schestowitz | >> moment. We could use a nice GUI through which to make all site-related | Dec 22 20:00 |
| schestowitz | >> stuff available for all. MuckRack and ProPublica also do such things... | Dec 22 20:00 |
| schestowitz | >> | Dec 22 20:00 |
| schestowitz | > We'd have to find a way to rewrite the shell scripts so as to keep the | Dec 22 20:00 |
| schestowitz | > passwords out of the Git tree. However, they would be of little value | Dec 22 20:00 |
| schestowitz | > for re-use. They are very specific to our setup. The perl scripts, on | Dec 22 20:00 |
| schestowitz | > the other hand, might be useful to others and contain no passwords. | Dec 22 20:00 |
| schestowitz | I'll look into something lighter and simpler than gitlab... I think a bunch of us can put code on there, with changelogs and all... no need for too many features. | Dec 22 20:00 |
| schestowitz | >> we might need disable nvc access for tuxmachines when finnix 'press | Dec 22 20:00 |
| schestowitz | >> ENTER' is not an issue anymore... if we migrate we might get rid of all | Dec 22 20:00 |
| schestowitz | >> that extra complicity along the way anyway | Dec 22 20:00 |
| schestowitz | >> | Dec 22 20:00 |
| schestowitz | > Great. Disabling VNC would be a good idea once it is possible. | Dec 22 20:00 |
| schestowitz | >> https://alternativeto.net/software/gitlab/ | Dec 22 20:44 |
| schestowitz | >> | Dec 22 20:44 |
| schestowitz | >> Not sure which ones are in EPEL. It can go under the TR VM without too | Dec 22 20:44 |
| schestowitz | >> much hassle. | Dec 22 20:44 |
| schestowitz | >> | Dec 22 20:44 |
| -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-alternativeto.net | GitLab Alternatives and Similar Software - AlternativeTo.net | Dec 22 20:44 | |
| schestowitz | > I haven't looked into it yet, but I think it is more simple than that: | Dec 22 20:44 |
| schestowitz | > | Dec 22 20:44 |
| schestowitz | > https://mirrors.edge.kernel.org/pub/software/scm/git/docs/user-manual.html#setting-up-a-public-repository | Dec 22 20:44 |
| schestowitz | Would we work locally on localhost? How much needs to be public. | Dec 22 20:44 |
| schestowitz | I am meanwhile tweaking the looks of IRC logs. | Dec 22 20:44 |
| schestowitz | Just started.. | Dec 22 20:44 |
| -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-mirrors.edge.kernel.org | Git User Manual | Dec 22 20:44 | |
| schestowitz | http://techrights.org/irc-archives/irc-log-techrights-211219.html#tDec%2021%2022:53:57 | Dec 22 20:44 |
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