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[03:40] *u-amarsh04 has quit (Quit: Konversation terminated!) ● Feb 23 [04:02] *DaemonFC has quit (Quit: Leaving) ● Feb 23 [05:18] *Despatche has quit (Quit: Read error: Connection reset by deer) ● Feb 23 [06:24] *u-amarsh04 (~amarsh04@joseon-rmogvn.g0d7.dtdf.mc4289.IP) has joined #boycottnovell [06:24] *u-amarsh04 (~amarsh04@hngiv8sdpiaf2.irc) has joined #boycottnovell [06:51] *activelow (~activelow@t7vv94aadcjny.irc) has joined #boycottnovell [06:51] *psydruid has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) ● Feb 23 [09:16] schestowitz-TR sam varghese wrote only 4 or 5 articles this past month [09:41] *Despatche (~desp@u3xy9z2ifjzci.irc) has joined #boycottnovell ● Feb 23 [10:10] Techrights-sec I noticed he was s [10:10] Techrights-sec has slowed down. He was one of the last good mainstream journalists [10:10] Techrights-sec not perfect, by far, but overall quite good################# [10:10] Techrights-sec I hope it is not an editorial decision behind that [10:14] schestowitz-TR back around 2008 the editor was censoring him [10:14] schestowitz-TR he was confronting jeff waugh, an aussie, over gnome and mono stuff [10:14] schestowitz-TR then miguel de icaza [10:14] schestowitz-TR then mister gulag [10:14] schestowitz-TR and others [10:14] schestowitz-TR and stan beer at the time was trying to curtail his writings a bit iirc [10:14] schestowitz-TR sometimes they would edefend him thouhg [10:14] schestowitz-TR the attacks on rms last year show poor judgment imho [10:14] schestowitz-TR spamnil has meanwhile all but ground to a halt [10:14] schestowitz-TR which I was waitingg for [10:14] schestowitz-TR at some stage he might realise nobody gives a shit about his openwashing BS [10:14] schestowitz-TR this morning itsfodss did some ms github puff [10:14] schestowitz-TR one person who never lets me down is marius nestor [10:17] Techrights-sec LF ought to drop spamnil; he's one of the options which is worse than nothing [10:17] schestowitz-TR fossforce has routinely criticised the LF [10:17] schestowitz-TR now go to fossforce [10:17] schestowitz-TR any page [10:17] schestowitz-TR watch at the top [10:18] schestowitz-TR my comment is not even needed on this [10:19] Techrights-sec FossForce seems to have become a spam site [10:20] schestowitz-TR well, technically it helps a diploma mill for money [10:20] schestowitz-TR at one point itsfoss was doing the same [10:20] schestowitz-TR still habitually does [10:20] schestowitz-TR this is why I recently noted, in some context or anothjer, that LF is a corruptin [10:20] schestowitz-TR g [10:20] schestowitz-TR force that sort of poisons sites and interject crap into them [10:21] schestowitz-TR this is also why the coin-operated sjvn puppet spouts out so many BS talking [10:21] schestowitz-TR points re sw patents, vmware, Microsoft etc. [10:21] schestowitz-TR He wants more coins. "Insert coin" [10:27] Techrights-sec Yes, it changed years ago and one symptom was eliminiating community membership [10:27] Techrights-sec from the board [10:27] Techrights-sec I feel bad that SJVN did not survive until retirement. He was one of the last [10:27] Techrights-sec good ones until he suddenly went over to say-for-pay. [10:27] Techrights-sec Though 20+ years ago, ZDNet had quite GOOD Linux and FOSS coverage. [10:34] Techrights-sec s/Perlow/M$ Perlow/ [10:34] Techrights-sec LF did not hire him to advance Linux, his background precludes that. [10:35] schestowitz-TR [10:32] Yesterday in #zdnet Perlow from #linuxfoundation (and f [10:35] schestowitz-TR ormerly #microsoft !): "I'll assume you already have an antimalware/antivirus sol [10:35] schestowitz-TR ution in place, such as Windows Security, which is built into Windows 10 and Wind [10:35] schestowitz-TR ows 11" (LF spokesperson shilling Windows) [10:35] schestowitz-TR [10:34] You could joke that the untold goal of the #linuxfounda [10:35] schestowitz-TR tion is to kill off the community enthusiasm around "Linux", making the handover [10:35] Techrights-sec Unfortunately that is a realistic possibility. [10:35] schestowitz-TR or privatisation by large corporations a lot simpler. ● Feb 23 [11:02] *DaemonFC (~daemonfc@csuwcrnzxznna.irc) has joined #boycottnovell [11:53] *psydroid4 (~psydroid@cqggrmwgu7gji.irc) has joined #boycottnovell [11:55] *psydruid (~psydruid@jevhxkzmtrbww.irc) has joined #boycottnovell ● Feb 23 [13:09] schestowitz-TR ota [13:09] schestowitz-TR draft [13:49] schestowitz-TR i have just thrown into techbytes a few more redacted notes from work [13:49] schestowitz-TR I think they can be related to [13:49] schestowitz-TR by many who in the workplace deal with shitty managers [13:49] schestowitz-TR who are pointing fingers at anyone but themselves [13:49] schestowitz-TR anyway, I've throttled down [13:49] schestowitz-TR my work participation even further to about 1 hour of [13:49] schestowitz-TR actual work per shift [13:49] schestowitz-TR which means around 5, at most, hours per week [13:49] schestowitz-TR the net pay, per hour, is good thius way [13:49] schestowitz-TR and enough to keep me going [13:50] schestowitz-TR it is in irc logs, next time around [13:50] schestowitz-TR at some point I will also add some github stuff to that [13:50] schestowitz-TR as I still need to decide what to shelve, what to do articles about etc. [13:50] schestowitz-TR I have thousands of lines [13:53] schestowitz-TR news has been particularly slow this week, i think presidents day is not an actua [13:53] schestowitz-TR l day off, so I am assuming it's just further slowdown, with varghese being [13:53] schestowitz-TR an example from australia [13:53] schestowitz-TR their website is some mambo or similar fossil [13:53] schestowitz-TR not mambo [13:53] schestowitz-TR I forgot what mambo and that other project became [13:53] schestowitz-TR maybe because so few are still using it [13:53] Techrights-sec ack [13:53] Techrights-sec I did not even notice the "holiday" I think it's just that the free press is [13:53] Techrights-sec at the end of being killed off [13:55] schestowitz-TR oh, I meant joomla [13:55] schestowitz-TR drupal might one day be obliterated by wordpress [13:55] schestowitz-TR of course the people who built up WP don't receive recognition [13:55] schestowitz-TR mike little [13:55] schestowitz-TR alex king [13:55] schestowitz-TR karthik [13:55] schestowitz-TR I ployed a relatively small role [13:55] schestowitz-TR but now it's a fucking big company which censoirs, pushes ads, '\freemium'... [13:55] Techrights-sec ok [13:55] Techrights-sec ... and they use FTP ... [13:55] Techrights-sec :( [13:56] schestowitz-TR ftp for software installation and wp code updates isn't even the worst [13:56] schestowitz-TR of offenders [13:56] schestowitz-TR I installed wordpress at work last year and it was... oh, where to start??? ● Feb 23 [14:07] Techrights-sec ack [14:07] Techrights-sec WP is not a realistic option any more; it looks also like they aim to [14:07] Techrights-sec make it impossible except for "software as a service" [14:07] schestowitz-TR I don't agree with that. They still make it easy to self-host and managed, it serves their interests too... the problem is other companies, which try to make self-hosting hard and web hosting very centralised ("clown") [14:09] Techrights-sec there are too many design mistakes being added to the already large mess for [14:09] Techrights-sec it to be much else [14:10] schestowitz-TR you can look up what b2 UI looked like [14:10] schestowitz-TR i.e. before wordpress took it and 'enhanced'it [14:10] Techrights-sec I've taken a look at it [14:10] Techrights-sec ack [14:12] schestowitz-TR even debian outsourced a lot of infra, ci at the least, to gulag [14:13] schestowitz-TR obv. gulag paid them tons of money, iirc 300k per year r total [14:13] schestowitz-TR clown is a bubble because it is being subsidised [14:13] schestowitz-TR the long-term risk m is ignored [14:13] schestowitz-TR because it's left for future leaders to wrestle with [14:13] schestowitz-TR and you only focus on short-term objectives [14:22] Techrights-sec yes, too much is outsourced but then new students at the university come in [14:22] Techrights-sec to their programmes without any experience and then, through M$ infiltration [14:22] Techrights-sec of the programmes, have not any opportunity to acquire hands on. So their [14:22] Techrights-sec whole ICT experience is really just using pre-made services and not ever [14:22] Techrights-sec actually building anything [14:25] schestowitz-TR or "building things" means click this, click that, in amazon aws [14:25] schestowitz-TR so the idea of taking some piece of hardware and installing things on it [14:25] schestowitz-TR like OS (not "spinning off") is foreign and scary [14:41] Techrights-sec and prohibited even in a closed lab [14:45] schestowitz-TR 0/ [14:45] schestowitz-TR otho [14:45] schestowitz-TR to put laipstick or slant on it [14:45] schestowitz-TR the scarcity of such skills may make opportunisties form some [14:45] schestowitz-TR the issue is, in some cases companies come in and impose on [14:45] schestowitz-TR you their outsourced crap, which they overpay for [14:49] Techrights-sec I would have agreed but experience has shown ignorance and hostility to skills: [14:49] Techrights-sec "in the land of the blind, the one-eyed man is in for one hell of a hard time." [14:49] Techrights-sec People follow trends senselessly and the senseless trend is now to use [14:49] Techrights-sec proprietary "cloud" services. The "cloud" companies have hidden all of what [14:49] Techrights-sec used to be commodity systems behind proprietary interfaces which vary even [14:49] Techrights-sec within the same service providing company. ● Feb 23 [16:09] *asusbox has quit (Quit: Konversation terminated!) [16:09] *asusbox (~rianne@pumv3cb2rfinu.irc) has joined #boycottnovell [16:39] *activelow has quit (connection closed) [16:40] *activelow (~activelow@5qfh8ygvjx3sy.irc) has joined #boycottnovell ● Feb 23 [17:13] *u-amarsh04 has quit (Quit: Konversation terminated!) [17:13] *u-amarsh04 has quit (Quit: Konversation terminated!) [17:52] schestowitz-TR draft [17:53] Techrights-sec In the draft, the last two sentences of the first paragraph could be the [17:53] Techrights-sec first two. They'd make a good lead-in. [17:54] schestowitz-TR hanks, I will restructure that whole block and expand while it processes th [17:54] schestowitz-TR e video [17:54] schestowitz-TR the drafts are the very first pass [17:55] Techrights-sec ack ● Feb 23 [18:14] *activelow has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [18:16] *activelow (~activelow@xhe89khtfanwe.irc) has joined #boycottnovell [18:31] *activelow has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [18:31] *activelow (~activelow@qh6zykc985e64.irc) has joined #boycottnovell [18:32] *DaemonFC has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [18:37] *activelow has quit (connection closed) [18:49] *psydroid2 (~psydroid@cqggrmwgu7gji.irc) has joined #boycottnovell [18:50] *activelow (~activelow@ejbn8z296rjbk.irc) has joined #boycottnovell ● Feb 23 [19:36] *Despatche has quit (connection closed) [19:49] *DaemonFC (~daemonfc@7evgmw3y2bwdq.irc) has joined #boycottnovell [19:52] *DaemonFC has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) ● Feb 23 [20:04] *DaemonFC (~daemonfc@yavn4x42a9qec.irc) has joined #boycottnovell [20:10] *DaemonFC has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [20:24] *techrights_guest|3 (~68f41a50@54n9xgft8g6u2.irc) has joined #boycottnovell [20:56] *DaemonFC (~daemonfc@yavn4x42a9qec.irc) has joined #boycottnovell ● Feb 23 [22:22] *psydroid2 has quit (connection closed) [22:24] schestowitz https://joindiaspora.com/posts/22564032 [22:25] -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-Not a Diaspora post? 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