●● IRC: #boycottnovell @ Techrights IRC Network: Wednesday, June 23, 2021 ●● ● Jun 23 [00:06] *DaemonFC has quit (Quit: Leaving) [00:08] *DaemonFC (~daemonfc@67tqpi693ebxi.irc) has joined #boycottnovell [00:50] *DaemonFC has quit (Quit: Leaving) ● Jun 23 [01:36] *rianne_ has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [01:36] *liberty_box has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [01:40] *DaemonFC (~daemonfc@spxemkn62ik6a.irc) has joined #boycottnovell [01:43] *rianne_ (~rianne@22e8m8t4gqjin.irc) has joined #boycottnovell [01:46] *rianne_ has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) ● Jun 23 [02:03] *rianne_ (~rianne@22e8m8t4gqjin.irc) has joined #boycottnovell [02:04] *liberty_box (~liberty@22e8m8t4gqjin.irc) has joined #boycottnovell [02:05] *DaemonFC has quit (connection closed) [02:58] *DaemonFC (~daemonfc@7hn6eis5drzqa.irc) has joined #boycottnovell ● Jun 23 [03:01] *job (~job@92hej83cu4x5n.irc) has joined #boycottnovell [03:12] *job has quit (connection closed) [03:18] *job (~job@92hej83cu4x5n.irc) has joined #boycottnovell [03:43] *liberty_box has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [03:43] *rianne_ has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [03:44] *psydroid (~psydroid@jevhxkzmtrbww.irc) has left #boycottnovell [03:44] *psydroid (~psydroid@jevhxkzmtrbww.irc) has joined #boycottnovell [03:46] *DaemonFC has quit (connection closed) [03:47] *rianne_ (~rianne@22e8m8t4gqjin.irc) has joined #boycottnovell [03:48] *liberty_box (~liberty@22e8m8t4gqjin.irc) has joined #boycottnovell ● Jun 23 [04:49] schestowitz [01:05] Hi. I'm xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx. Because of the shitty xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx UI, I seem to have truncated my password [04:49] schestowitz [01:06] Can you change it to "xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx" so I can change it properly? [04:49] schestowitz [05:25] hi [04:49] schestowitz [05:26] did you register a username and want it re-registered? [04:50] schestowitz [05:50] yes [04:50] schestowitz [05:51] I want to change the password [04:50] schestowitz [05:51] nickserv has a command to change another's password [04:50] schestowitz [07:13] I will check [04:50] schestowitz [07:14] thx [04:50] schestowitz [08:18] btw, deblanc just lost her job [04:50] schestowitz [08:19] i am speaking to an associate who knows ergoirc syntax a bit better than me, I don't want to risk breaking the thing [04:50] schestowitz [12:27] try /quote nickserv help passwd [04:50] schestowitz [12:27] if you have the privileges [04:50] schestowitz [12:28] if not, I can try to do this for you [04:50] schestowitz [14:25] I tried PASSWD yesterday, and it didn't work [04:50] schestowitz [14:25] Since I don't know my password, PASSWD doesn't work either [04:50] schestowitz [14:26] It's not simply truncated (I didn't understand that xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx was intentionally hiding what I was typing and may have entered it twice or something) [04:50] schestowitz [14:28] MSG(nickserv): passwd xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx [04:50] schestowitz [14:28] NickServ (NickServ@irc.techrights.org): Insufficient privileges [04:50] schestowitz [14:29] just try /msg NickServ passwd xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx [04:50] schestowitz [16:00] done! [04:50] schestowitz [17:08] thanks, it worked [04:50] schestowitz [17:09] ":-) [04:50] schestowitz [03:57] In 2018, Sarah Mei (Salesforce) attacked the term "domain-driven design" for being abbreviated "DDD" which is also a breast size (not mentioned in Wiktionary and not the first definition in Urban Dictionary) [04:50] schestowitz [04:49] now I feel safer ● Jun 23 [05:01] schestowitz because it's so stupid? [05:01] schestowitz >>> Magdalen's comeback was brilliant. Molly is the Zombie. [05:01] schestowitz >>> [05:01] schestowitz >>> https://twitter.com/mmillions/status/1407001328379965449 [05:01] -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@mmillions: Okay I am now unemployed for real. What are your favorite free or cheap NYC activities? [05:01] schestowitz >> [05:01] schestowitz >> I cannot see such a comment, but with Twitter you never can tell for [05:01] schestowitz >> sure what's hidden from you... [05:01] schestowitz > [05:01] schestowitz > Odd, I just clicked the link again and it works, she did not make it [05:01] schestowitz > private. I do not have a Twitter account so I am accessing it anonymously. [05:01] schestowitz > [05:01] schestowitz > Anyway, it appears to be true as other people already started to gossip [05:01] schestowitz > [05:01] schestowitz > I do not want to speculate about a reason. Maybe they just found the [05:01] schestowitz > women in other countries are cheaper. Sam Tuke from PHPList has [05:01] schestowitz > apparently hired some of the girls in Albania. Four women there and [05:01] schestowitz > office rent are cheaper than one woman in NYC or Boston: [05:01] schestowitz > [05:01] schestowitz > https://www.phplist.org/phplist-hack-sprint-in-albania/ [05:01] -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-www.phplist.org | phpList Hack Sprint in Albania | phpList.org [05:01] schestowitz > [05:01] schestowitz > "our contributors got to translate phpList to Albanian (all in one night [05:01] schestowitz > :D)" [05:01] schestowitz > [05:01] schestowitz > Ignoring all the scandal stuff, some of these deals do make sense from [05:01] schestowitz > an economic perspective if the money pays for development instead of [05:01] schestowitz > long-haul flights. [05:01] schestowitz I know Sam personally. He is or was here. [05:06] schestowitz > Looks like they removed her very suddenly: [05:06] schestowitz > [05:06] schestowitz > https://foundation.gnome.org/team/ [05:06] -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-foundation.gnome.org | Our Team The GNOME Foundation [05:06] schestowitz > [05:06] schestowitz > If Molly had to go, why does Neil keep his job? Neil actually made more [05:06] schestowitz > commits than Molly in the open letter repository in Github: [05:06] schestowitz > [05:06] schestowitz > https://github.com/rms-open-letter/rms-open-letter.github.io/graphs/contributors [05:06] -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-github.com | Contributors to rms-open-letter/rms-open-letter.github.io GitHub [05:06] schestowitz > [05:06] schestowitz > Old page from May 2021: [05:06] schestowitz > [05:06] schestowitz > https://web.archive.org/web/20210519182438/https://foundation.gnome.org/team/ [05:06] schestowitz > [05:06] -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-web.archive.org | Our Team The GNOME Foundation [05:34] *verbose (~verbose@xm5z894qxaqia.irc) has joined #boycottnovell [05:38] *verbose has quit (Quit: WeeChat 3.0) [05:39] *verbose (~verbose@xm5z894qxaqia.irc) has joined #boycottnovell [05:43] schestowitz verbose: maybe we should add these to scrollback? [05:43] schestowitz thoughts? [05:44] schestowitz I was thinking how to use sort to merge with timestamp and all.. [05:45] verbose I don't know, I haven't looked at this channel much. [05:46] verbose Is there an easy way to download the digests? [05:47] verbose Without writing own scripts to process the lists. [05:53] verbose I need to learn to write vimscripts (again?), but it's for a different reason that wouldn't save that much time anyway. ● Jun 23 [06:16] schestowitz what do you mean by "digests"? [06:16] schestowitz we have daily bulletins [06:16] schestowitz Yesterday's bulletin: http://techrights.org/txt-archives/techrights-2021-06-22.txt ● Jun 23 [07:12] verbose I really mean the stuff listed in the lists linked at http://techrights.org/ipfs/ , but I guess it's easier to only pin, but download using wget [07:12] -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-techrights.org | Techrights Full IPFS Index [07:26] *psydroid (~psydroid@jevhxkzmtrbww.irc) has left #boycottnovell [07:26] *psydroid (~psydroid@jevhxkzmtrbww.irc) has joined #boycottnovell [07:31] *rianne_ has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [07:31] *liberty_box has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [07:32] *liberty_box (~liberty@22e8m8t4gqjin.irc) has joined #boycottnovell [07:33] *rianne_ (~rianne@22e8m8t4gqjin.irc) has joined #boycottnovell [07:47] *verbose has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [07:58] schestowitz https://securitybrief.com.au/story/veracode-soss-report-significant-open-source-security-gap-for-vendors-and-users [07:58] -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-securitybrief.com.au | Veracode SoSS report: Significant open-source security gap for vendors and users [07:58] schestowitz spam [07:58] schestowitz Veracode spam ● Jun 23 [08:48] schestowitz MinceR: that suggestion from you (yesterday) worked [08:48] schestowitz we managed to gradually bring the key people in here... much of what's left behind is less critical to us. [08:48] schestowitz Also, the people online in LC:#tr don't say a thing [08:48] schestowitz zoobab is of value though [08:49] schestowitz regarding s/n ratio, a lot of the OT stuff has been relayed to -social, which I think is very good [08:49] schestowitz I'll speak to zoobab about coming here ● Jun 23 [09:15] acer-box____ https://nitter.actionsack.com/AbuAbdulAziz_A1/status/1407597578540273665#m [09:15] -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-nitter.actionsack.com | (@AbuAbdulAziz_A1): " http://techrights.org/wiki/index.php/Gates_Foundation_Critique" | nitter [09:26] schestowitz shown in tmux is some evidence related to "video" usage, roughly 31k accessed video files in the past 3 days, though we did not manage to publish many videos at all. today I had major major issues with pulseaudio, had to false restart it -- something I never did in the past [09:26] Techrights-sec Do any of the static site generators also have the option for Gemini, parallel [09:26] Techrights-sec to WWW? [09:27] schestowitz kaniini mentioned last night that going static at some stage, with gemini too, would be great for moving towards alpine, not worrying about DBs and php and other such technical debt -- a term used by kaniini as well [09:28] schestowitz http://techrights.org/irc-archives/irc-log-techrights-220621.html#tJun%2022%2012:19:21 [09:28] -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-techrights.org | IRC: #techrights @ FreeNode: Tuesday, June 22, 2021 [09:41] Techrights-sec Static would have lots of advantages. The back end could run a RPi and [09:41] Techrights-sec the front end could too. It would be a /lot/ easier to distribute and [09:41] Techrights-sec load-balance [09:42] schestowitz I think that in the coming years we'll see more case studies and tooling to that effect. already, quite a few free sw blogs move off wordpress/drupal and onto things that are simpler to manage, esp. for small sites. so we might need some patience. [09:46] Techrights-sec Any commenting would have to take place on IRC instead, but comments are [09:46] Techrights-sec several problems if that capability is on the WWW. I'd say just IRC is enough. [09:46] Techrights-sec If it's not metioned prominently on the page(s) linking to the TR IRC network, [09:46] Techrights-sec the fact that the IP addresses are not posted in the channel is important. [09:47] schestowitz we configured IRCD accordingly. So did freenode when they rebooted (wiped) the whole system in their stupid overhaul that now occasionally locks me out. Comments inside articles can hurt the articles, esp. on controversial subjects. I wanted to say something else of importance, but forgot.... [09:53] Techrights-sec Ok, both networks fixing the IP address leak is a good thing. [09:53] Techrights-sec In geneneral I would be in strong favor of comments on the web pages, but [09:53] Techrights-sec the established practice /everywhere/ is not to allow them, they are [09:53] Techrights-sec a /lot/ of effort for something that is redundant with IRC, and lastly [09:53] Techrights-sec (like you mention) it's easy for trolls to post comments and then a-holes [09:53] Techrights-sec to complain about the comments elsewhere. That last point is stupid, but [09:53] Techrights-sec society has become even more stupid, on average, than it used to be. [09:54] schestowitz We did received a lot of comments in the distant past. They became a liability at times and now only longtime accounts (registered ages ago) can comment. [09:54] schestowitz *receive [09:58] schestowitz from page title and

of html IRC logs I have just removed "FreeNode" and say Techrights IRC Network. This is where it is logged from now. I hope this does not cause or introduce bugs in tomorrow's cron run. ● Jun 23 [10:56] Techrights-sec [10:56] Techrights-sec Thus those tricks complaining about third-party comments work. ● Jun 23 [14:27] MinceR schestowitz: good [14:49] *DaemonFC (~daemonfc@fjdu8dxzkvkmi.irc) has joined #boycottnovell ● Jun 23 [15:45] *DaemonFC has quit (Quit: Leaving) [15:49] *job has quit (connection closed) ● Jun 23 [17:33] Techrights-sec from a signature seen on a mailing list message: [17:33] Techrights-sec "PS: Your blog doesn't need a comments section. People should quote, link, and comment on their own blogs instead of exp [17:33] Techrights-sec ecting you to provide them a soapbox." [17:33] schestowitz I said that about how blogging used to be before social control media [17:47] schestowitz in tmux you can see an ongoing (sporadic) ddos pattern and response to it, which might be remotely related to some irc 'revenge, based on the timing ● Jun 23 [18:06] Techrights-sec can the mitigations be automated without creating a DoS on their own? [18:06] Techrights-sec The rate at which the requests are comming in should not be a problem, [18:06] Techrights-sec or is it? [18:06] Techrights-sec They are just trickling in at the moment. [18:07] schestowitz it is OK for now [18:09] schestowitz I've added a comment for you in tmux, I need to go prepare some food. the comment is in .htaccess [18:36] Techrights-sec ack [18:36] Techrights-sec \ [18:37] schestowitz I think the key is preventing downtime (or "success"). The IRC logs will show why I'm totally distracted today, here and there... this weekend I'm off work, so will catch up [18:48] Techrights-sec Ok. This weekend is a major holiday anyway. [18:48] schestowitz I didn't even know... ● Jun 23 [20:40] *DaemonFC (~daemonfc@qu8xx3rkznqc4.irc) has joined #boycottnovell ● Jun 23 [22:18] *DaemonFC has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) ● Jun 23 [23:04] schestowitz https://twitter.com/at2rty/status/1407802273548455938 [23:04] -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@at2rty: @schestowitz https://t.co/EA2oh0mApu [23:04] -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell--> www.youtube.com | Shoshana Zuboff on surveillance capitalism | VPRO Documentary - YouTube [23:04] schestowitz https://twitter.com/glynmoody/status/1407742427641876488 [23:04] -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@glynmoody: "the executive branch guidance which Republican U.S. presidents have used for nearly four decades to cut off access https://t.co/GelU7CC71I [23:04] -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@glynmoody: "the executive branch guidance which Republican U.S. presidents have used for nearly four decades to cut off access https://t.co/GelU7CC71I [23:04] schestowitz " [23:04] schestowitz "the executive branch guidance which Republican [23:04] schestowitz U.S. presidents have used for nearly four decades to cut off access to reproductive healthcare around the world." [23:04] schestowitz " [23:05] schestowitz https://twitter.com/Flavia0847/status/1407691017713770497 [23:05] -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@Flavia0847: How come this is 'an abuse of human rights' in Botwswana but 'standard operating security procedure' in Israel? https://t.co/qoqlH1NW47 [23:05] -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@schestowitz: NEWS #TruthOut Supreme Court Ruled Against Enslaved Children Even as US Celebrated #Juneteenth https://t.co/xlDf9Vg44e [23:05] schestowitz "How come this is 'an abuse of human rights' in Botwswana but 'standard operating security procedure' in Israel?" [23:05] schestowitz https://twitter.com/templemore85/status/1407653658376945668 [23:05] -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@templemore85: @schestowitz Sen, Ron Johnson is gunning for them. [23:05] schestowitz https://twitter.com/jrbrtson/status/1407653633873825796 [23:05] -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@jrbrtson: @schestowitz I've always thought admirably of Apple, but having watched their massive success over the years combin https://t.co/JNOSg5Fijb [23:05] -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@jrbrtson: @schestowitz I've always thought admirably of Apple, but having watched their massive success over the years combin https://t.co/JNOSg5Fijb [23:05] schestowitz "I've always thought admirably of Apple, but having watched their massive success over the years combined with questionable business practices involving manufacturing conditions in China, it's about time they had their wings clipped." [23:05] schestowitz https://twitter.com/jrbrtson/status/1407653633873825796 [23:06] schestowitz https://twitter.com/glynmoody/status/1407622973536755713 [23:06] -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@glynmoody: this is looking bad https://t.co/djcpmtBCU1 [23:06] -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@schestowitz: NEWS #Express #Afghanistan Afghan carnage as #Taliban storm two cities after #Biden withdrew troops- Panic e https://t.co/AI3zQB3fPv [23:06] schestowitz https://twitter.com/glynmoody/status/1407626660200030211 [23:06] -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@glynmoody: not good https://t.co/8oILnQTYQa [23:06] -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@schestowitz: NEWS #dawn #Afghanistan #asia #Taliban capture Afghanistan's main Tajikistan border crossing https://t.co/Qccyc9JnCe [23:33] *DaemonFC (~daemonfc@mm2hfi2p85yak.irc) has joined #boycottnovell