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[07:37]	Techrights-sec2	I've added the prerequisite CPAN modules to Alpine, some via the package
[07:37]	Techrights-sec2	manager (when possible) the remainder via the CPAN module    
[07:37]	Techrights-sec2	I've created some placeholder accounts; hopefully the group memberships are 
[07:37]	Techrights-sec2	correct
[07:37]	Techrights-sec2	Please try some of the work flow to be sure; I am sure there are still rough
[07:37]	Techrights-sec2	edges with the file system permissions.
[07:37]	Techrights-sec2	I've adjusted Apache's vhost configuration extensively.  
[07:37]	Techrights-sec2	I'm wondering how we can split out the scripts and such from the main Git branch
[07:37]	Techrights-sec2	I notice that the TLS certificate is not using the right host name nor a wildcard
[07:37]	Techrights-sec2	I added coreutils so that the 'date' utility will behave as expected in the 
[07:37]	Techrights-sec2	shell scripts
[07:37]	Techrights-sec2	The only downside to Alpine so far, and its a big one, is the lack of manual pages
[07:37]	Techrights-sec2	We should turn off password authentication for sshd as soon as convenient
[07:37]	Techrights-sec2	The CSS still needs a lot of polish 
[07:37]	schestowitz-TR	0/
[07:37]	schestowitz-TR	gm
[07:37]	schestowitz-TR	wonderful news about CPAN and package managers being able to retrieve all the required deps
[07:37]	schestowitz-TR	I've grown to like SPAN after 
[07:37]	schestowitz-TR	SPAN
[07:37]	schestowitz-TR	>CPAN
[07:37]	schestowitz-TR	after first finding out about it 2 decades ago, it was a little intimidating at first 
[07:37]	schestowitz-TR	the syntax, the permissions, the way to invoke the software and specify modules based
[07:37]	schestowitz-TR	on their context, how to locate/name them
[07:37]	schestowitz-TR	trying account access now, tests..
[07:53]	schestowitz-TR	after attempts to use the new account to access via ssh I realised, seeing /home, that it is not 
[07:53]	schestowitz-TR	a UNIX account on the system and therefore refers to something else
[07:53]	schestowitz-TR	oh, I see
[07:53]	schestowitz-TR	web-end
[07:53]	schestowitz-TR	ok, I have attempted to add node via tuxmachines and roy
[07:53]	schestowitz-TR	it tries to use /bin/nano
[07:53]	schestowitz-TR	rather than 
[07:53]	schestowitz-TR	/usr/bin/nano
[07:53]	schestowitz-TR	which is where 'which' tells me the binary is
[07:53]	schestowitz-TR	I can change this push to git and then pull to server but not yet sure about the workflow
[07:53]	schestowitz-TR	also, to get to 'roy' (keys and passwords did not work) I su roy from hv->tm-new
● Jul 23
[08:14]	schestowitz-TR	ok, git.tuxmachines.org and beta.tuxmachines.org registered now
[08:15]	schestowitz-TR	I've pulled from TM git just now
[08:15]	schestowitz-TR	do you want me to mail marius with password for the beta to give feedback?
[08:15]	Techrights-sec2	ack
[08:15]	Techrights-sec2	checking
[08:15]	Techrights-sec2	yes please his feedback is important since this is for him also
[08:21]	schestowitz-TR	one quick question
[08:21]	schestowitz-TR	your username is aaaa
[08:21]	schestowitz-TR	if that's iuntentional, then we can allow read-only access to git.tuxmachines.org for people to 
[08:21]	schestowitz-TR	checkout the CMS and maybe replicate it, give back etc.
[08:21]	schestowitz-TR	unless there is something sensitive in the commit log 
[08:21]	schestowitz-TR	at a later stage, assuming we have gemini.tuxmachines.org
[08:21]	schestowitz-TR	we can reuse the code from TR to present TM Git over gemini
[08:21]	schestowitz-TR	it would be one afternoon's work
[08:21]	schestowitz-TR	I've just exited cpanel, but before doing so I added subdomain gemini.tuxmachines.org
[08:21]	schestowitz-TR	not that this is a priority
[08:21]	schestowitz-TR	it would need its own separate dir with files (another format)
[08:21]	schestowitz-TR	and something like agate on port 1965
[08:21]	schestowitz-TR	but at least the server now had 4 aliases
[08:21]	schestowitz-TR	gemini, beta, news, and git
[08:22]	Techrights-sec2	I'm not sure about how to set up read-only access, Git is complicated that way
[08:22]	Techrights-sec2	thanks
[08:22]	Techrights-sec2	something for later  
[08:22]	Techrights-sec2	still fighting with Git on news.tuxmachines.org :(
[08:22]	Techrights-sec2	when it works, it is rather good (i.e. useful) but it is hard to use
[08:22]	Techrights-sec2	and even harder to configure 
[08:25]	schestowitz-TR	I'\ve just written the output as root history to my homedir
[08:25]	schestowitz-TR	assuming that might come in handy later when we do the same with TR
[08:25]	schestowitz-TR	maybe TR will have the same workflow and CMS
[08:25]	schestowitz-TR	alongside the existinf stuff
[08:25]	schestowitz-TR	workflow consolidation would simplify things
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[08:29]	schestowitz-TR	OK, nano works now
[08:29]	schestowitz-TR	adding test
[08:29]	schestowitz-TR	now it tries to find /usr/bin/tidy 
[08:29]	schestowitz-TR	thanks
[08:29]	schestowitz-TR	record added :-)
[08:29]	Techrights-sec2	ok, the scripts are now available on news... 
[08:29]	Techrights-sec2	adding
[08:29]	Techrights-sec2	added
[08:29]	Techrights-sec2	I forgot about the binary dependencies :/
[08:29]	Techrights-sec2	excellent
[08:29]	Techrights-sec2	ok test the tm-extract... script
[08:32]	schestowitz-TR	the -b option is no longer valid 
[08:32]	schestowitz-TR	I tried without it, as the paths are the same
[08:32]	Techrights-sec2	tm-extract-posts-sql.pl -f -v -d $(date -d yesterday "+%Y%m%d") -s
[08:32]	Techrights-sec2	steps 2 - 5 in the workflow can be rolled into a single script    
[08:38]	schestowitz-TR	OK, the node shows up OK, I think the genration of front page, rss etc. is still a separate thing
[08:38]	schestowitz-TR	but it looks like some time soon rianne and I will add new nodes to both sites at the same time
[08:38]	schestowitz-TR	to dry-testmaybe at a later stage let people have a sneak peak, maybe by month's end?
[08:44]	Techrights-sec2	 those are separate scripts for now
[08:44]	Techrights-sec2	thanks
[08:44]	Techrights-sec2	there is an obnoxious variant of vi on alpine, I have to figure out what's the
[08:44]	Techrights-sec2	deal with that and if it can be countered
[08:44]	Techrights-sec2	the sqlite3 database is the authority for TM, from it new layouts and pages 
[08:44]	Techrights-sec2	can be generated, it is also there to force an absolute, rigid structure on
[08:44]	Techrights-sec2	the data contained within
[08:47]	schestowitz-TR	btw, tuxmachines is not "orginal" "content" but techrgihts is
[08:47]	schestowitz-TR	but thinking about it, putting pertinent static pages in git would not be a good idea
[08:47]	schestowitz-TR	as that would not keep sqlite in sync and basically manifest two versions with possibly 
[08:47]	schestowitz-TR	conflicting edits
[08:47]	schestowitz-TR	the techrights DB grows a lot faster because of Daily Links for the most part
[08:47]	schestowitz-TR	I've just checked db dumps, they are OK
[08:47]	schestowitz-TR	dmesg shows very few xfs-related messages
[08:47]	schestowitz-TR	but sometimes some gz files can still 'fail'
[08:47]	schestowitz-TR	when I say "few" I mean, I observed maybe 1 or 2 warnings per day
[08:47]	schestowitz-TR	having that said, after xfs_repair it seems like the issue isn't critical
[08:47]	schestowitz-TR	from the lenses of kaniini, I don't want to bother too much
[08:47]	schestowitz-TR	seeing that everything generally works, inc. the lion's share of backups,
[08:47]	schestowitz-TR	as we transitioned to a more "modern" and robust workflow, system
[08:48]	Techrights-sec2	ok but file system problems are very worrysome even if they are "just" warnings
[08:52]	schestowitz-TR	I agree. I will add
[08:52]	schestowitz-TR	a) this was recently looked at, fixed
[08:52]	schestowitz-TR	b) kaniini said from the admin's (hv) end it looks not a big deal, not to say "benign"
[08:52]	schestowitz-TR	c) I want to issue a payment soon, don't want to "waste" more time for now
[08:52]	schestowitz-TR	not sure if you noticed, but debian.community will likely be confiscated soon
[08:52]	schestowitz-TR	we have one epo series ongoing (more to come), 2 onging Microsoft series
[08:53]	schestowitz-TR	the one about media manipulation was in LXer yesterday
[08:53]	schestowitz-TR	and I try to keep productive too
[08:53]	schestowitz-TR	yesterday, albeit many posts were memes, there were 21 posts
[08:53]	schestowitz-TR	this weekend I have my plate full
[08:53]	schestowitz-TR	I will record shortly, re georg weber and swpats
[08:53]	schestowitz-TR	will say "ota" when I start to avoid system bell distracting
[08:53]	schestowitz-TR	thanks for all the word, tonight I will show marius the site
[08:53]	schestowitz-TR	and rianne may add some test posts after work (she finished 5:30pm, then I take over till 1am
[08:53]	schestowitz-TR	the OS migration task is finally, years late, "in progress"
[08:53]	schestowitz-TR	tuxmachines can be a model for techrights later, many of the same commands to be run there
[08:53]	schestowitz-TR	as the OS is identical
[08:53]	schestowitz-TR	we can make suibsites, e.g. wiki.techrights.org, with legacy URLs still working 
[08:53]	Techrights-sec2	excellent
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● Jul 23
[09:51]	schestowitz-TR	OTA!
[09:51]	schestowitz-TR	45 mins long
[09:51]	schestowitz-TR	so this can take a while to process
[09:51]	schestowitz-TR	it's about swpats 
[09:51]	schestowitz-TR	and debunking all those lies from the EPO uusing their offical PDFs
[09:51]	schestowitz-TR	even if only a few INSIDERS at the EPO listen, that's good
[09:51]	Techrights-sec2	ack
[09:51]	Techrights-sec2	good
[09:51]	Techrights-sec2	every bit helps 
[09:53]	schestowitz-TR	apachetop says 2MB/sec since reboot
[09:53]	schestowitz-TR	(motly video traffic)
[09:53]	schestowitz-TR	no editing needed, but I will start writing the text
[09:53]	schestowitz-TR	rianne already cleaned her feeds for tuxmachines before work at 9am
[09:53]	schestowitz-TR	having breakfast soon
[09:53]	schestowitz-TR	biab
● Jul 23
[10:13]	schestowitz-TR	draft
[10:17]	Techrights-sec2	checking
[10:17]	Techrights-sec2	CII needs to be expanded in the summary
[10:17]	Techrights-sec2	(I know what they are but it is not a common acronym)
[10:17]	Techrights-sec2	The closing paragraph could end with a call to stop issuing fraudulent patents
[10:17]	Techrights-sec2	or something 
[10:22]	schestowitz-TR	correcting
[10:22]	schestowitz-TR	i cover some such in the video
[10:22]	schestowitz-TR	adding more text, jhang on
[10:22]	schestowitz-TR	examiners sort of ask for help
[10:22]	schestowitz-TR	they want the job, but don't want to break the law
[10:22]	schestowitz-TR	see last paragraph just added, I will do further work on it later, got daily links files
[10:33]	Techrights-sec2	checking
[10:33]	Techrights-sec2	s/using/issuing/ ?
[10:36]	schestowitz-TR	right,w ell spotted. eta for video 1 hour, maybe more like 40 mins if I push rsync repeatedly to improve overlap
[10:36]	schestowitz-TR	between upload and file processing
[10:36]	schestowitz-TR	but this video has no urgency, unlike some
[10:36]	schestowitz-TR	I'm going to do my round of weekend phonecalls soon
[10:36]	schestowitz-TR	still no word from my unvle in FL
[10:36]	schestowitz-TR	which makes me more worried, as I asked for updates
[10:36]	schestowitz-TR	they didn't tell me if it's coviv
[10:36]	schestowitz-TR	if it is, he's in the "right" age (90s)
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● Jul 23
[11:04]	schestowitz-TR	i wanted to comment on the "smart" phone video
[11:04]	schestowitz-TR	IO partly did in IRC
[11:04]	schestowitz-TR	as the topic was interesting to me
[11:04]	schestowitz-TR	he's not ditching tracking devices
[11:04]	schestowitz-TR	maybe that would be the next step
[11:04]	schestowitz-TR	so I cannot recommend it like thr RMS videos re phones
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[11:47]	Techrights-sec2	ack
[11:54]	schestowitz-TR	for the second weekend in a row no weekend edition from counterpunch
[11:54]	schestowitz-TR	maybe they make up for it during the week
[11:54]	schestowitz-TR	but on sunday they make some paywalled stuff and no ~50 items near end of week
[11:54]	schestowitz-TR	so bottom line is, I wonder what state they are in financially
[11:54]	schestowitz-TR	or health
[11:54]	schestowitz-TR	iirc, founder died
[11:54]	schestowitz-TR	many sites later syndicate C, and vice versa
[11:54]	schestowitz-TR	an important "counter punch" to power and MSM
[11:54]	schestowitz-TR	different, but FACTUAL
[11:54]	schestowitz-TR	the stuff MSM knows to be true but does not wish to SAY
[11:54]	schestowitz-TR	think of it like TR for for politics, finance, social issues...
[11:54]	schestowitz-TR	*but for
● Jul 23
[12:14]	Techrights-sec2	ack
[12:16]	schestowitz-TR	it would be a net loss to public voice/resistance
[12:16]	schestowitz-TR	from a selfish POV, fewer links for me to go through
[12:16]	schestowitz-TR	but then again MSM will have less pushback
[12:16]	schestowitz-TR	and that's further danger
[12:16]	schestowitz-TR	the vanishing "noise deserts"
[12:16]	Techrights-sec2	it would be a net loss to public voice/resistance
[12:16]	Techrights-sec2	from a selfish POV, fewer links for me to go through
[12:16]	Techrights-sec2	but then again MSM will have less pushback
[12:16]	Techrights-sec2	and that's further danger
[12:16]	Techrights-sec2	the vanishing "noise deserts"
[12:16]	Techrights-sec2	.
[12:16]	Techrights-sec2	ack
[12:16]	Techrights-sec2	their coverage is important
[12:16]	Techrights-sec2	even the WaPo and NYT are not very good any more
[12:17]	Techrights-sec2	they are on the edge of the news desert 
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[12:21]	schestowitz-TR	sorry to dwell on it, but I saw washpo before bezos
[12:21]	schestowitz-TR	and nytimes when they covered stuxnet and had james risen ob board
[12:21]	schestowitz-TR	friend of wikileaks et al
[12:21]	schestowitz-TR	when WBers still had a voice in the media
[12:21]	schestowitz-TR	you know who leakeded the story to Risen
[12:21]	schestowitz-TR	almost died in prison with a heart condition
[12:21]	schestowitz-TR	Sterling
[12:21]	schestowitz-TR	nobody even mentions his name anymore
[12:21]	schestowitz-TR	RT still gave some western WBers a voice after that
[12:21]	schestowitz-TR	now RT is blacklisted, deplotformed etc.
[12:21]	schestowitz-TR	so they have nobody to turn to
[12:21]	schestowitz-TR	some drone WBer like Ling and others were reading TR
[12:21]	schestowitz-TR	ioerror too
[12:21]	schestowitz-TR	they're nowhere to be seen online anymore
[12:21]	schestowitz-TR	we live ina  post=WBer age
[12:21]	schestowitz-TR	where those that exist are being called "CIA" and sometimes actually arer
[12:21]	schestowitz-TR	like when theyd decide to throw certain companies and/or oligarchs under the "bus"
[12:21]	schestowitz-TR	maybe for a lack of docility on some issue (hard to know what happens behind the covers)
[12:24]	Techrights-sec2	ack
[12:26]	Techrights-sec2	I agree that it looks coordinated
[12:27]	schestowitz-TR	if they can toss $70,000,000,000.00 habitually at some RICH companies under the guise of nationalism
[12:27]	schestowitz-TR	and "CHIPS"
[12:27]	schestowitz-TR	how about the national interest associated with minting capital for a free press?
[12:27]	Techrights-sec2	ack
[12:27]	schestowitz-TR	which of the two is more important?
[12:27]	schestowitz-TR	windowsXP for occupying troops hunting for middle eastern oil? or protecting Mo Bin SALAFI?
[12:27]	schestowitz-TR	(Hololens GRAFT)
[12:30]	schestowitz-TR	KSA funds for Twitter (before and DURING the Musk coup)
[12:30]	schestowitz-TR	but no KSA funds for journalism
[12:30]	schestowitz-TR	"dude, you could at least sponsor one tandoori oven for each news rooom" :s
[12:33]	schestowitz-TR	it is beyond plasusible that th attack on media receptive to indsiders in POWERFUL
[12:33]	schestowitz-TR	entitries (gov, companies, piublic, private , miitary) is not only intentional but well
[12:33]	schestowitz-TR	cooredinated at some level
[12:33]	schestowitz-TR	ad i slipped outside the control of those who wanted to give a 5th estate
[12:33]	schestowitz-TR	and regret it
[12:33]	schestowitz-TR	if they can toss $70,000,000,000.00 habitually at some RICH companies under the guise of nationalism
[12:33]	schestowitz-TR	and "CHIPS"
[12:33]	schestowitz-TR	how about the national interest associated with minting capital for a free press?
[12:33]	schestowitz-TR	which of the two is more important?
[12:33]	schestowitz-TR	windowsXP for occupying troops hunting for middle eastern oil? or protecting Mo Bin SALAFI?
[12:33]	schestowitz-TR	(Hololens GRAFT)
[12:33]	Techrights-sec2	I agree that it looks coordinated
[12:44]	schestowitz-TR	<techrights-news> UK COVID-19 Data Shows Citizens Should Keep Distance and Keep the Masks on https://schestowitz.com/Weblog/archives/2022/07/23/covid-19-soon-a-million-patients/
[12:44]		-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-schestowitz.com Blog Archive UK COVID-19 Data Shows Citizens Should Keep Distance and Keep the Masks on
[12:44]	Techrights-sec2	ack
[12:44]	Techrights-sec2	it was disappointing and inappropriate for Biden to visit without firt 
[12:44]	Techrights-sec2	resolving that matter; the US has instead chosen to allow KSA to brush
[12:44]	Techrights-sec2	the crime(s) under the rug
[12:44]	Techrights-sec2	
[12:44]	Techrights-sec2	ack
[12:45]	Techrights-sec2	US deaths have exceeded 1M 
[12:45]	Techrights-sec2	https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2021/us/covid-cases.html
[12:45]		-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-www.nytimes.com | Covid in the U.S.: Latest Maps, Case and Death Counts - The New York Times
[12:46]	schestowitz-TR	maybe it'll kill my uncle
[12:46]	schestowitz-TR	I've been close to him for 23 years
[12:47]	Techrights-sec2	:(
[12:47]	Techrights-sec2	I hope he avoids it 
[12:49]	schestowitz-TR	I've woried for years it would finish him
[12:49]	schestowitz-TR	he's not in a bad state relatively speaking
[12:49]	schestowitz-TR	I added one sentence tomy postr
[12:49]	schestowitz-TR	I forgot to paste that from my text fikle
[12:49]	schestowitz-TR	about 200,000+ dead in UK
[12:49]	Techrights-sec2	that's quite a lot and certain politicians encouraged the activities which 
[12:49]	Techrights-sec2	prevented getting a lid on the situation and actually exacerbated the 
[12:49]	Techrights-sec2	effects of the epidemic
[12:50]	schestowitz-TR	jwz (iirc, jeremy zawinsky or whatever, the mozilla (co)founder) showed this was done after intensive lobbying by travelk-lretaed insdustries
[12:50]	schestowitz-TR	at least in CA/SF area
[12:52]	Techrights-sec2	yes
[12:52]	Techrights-sec2	the airlines need to go under, at least as they are run today they should not
[12:52]	Techrights-sec2	be allowed to continue to go on both for environmental / climate reasons 
[12:52]	Techrights-sec2	but also epidemiological reasons.  There is also the matter of civil rights
[12:52]	Techrights-sec2	and the TSA has spread abusive, demeaning practices throughout the world and
[12:52]	Techrights-sec2	normalized such treatment
[12:52]	schestowitz-TR	tsa has normalised this also for land travel, e.g. buses and trains
[12:52]	schestowitz-TR	this would be unthionkable in the 1990s
[12:52]	schestowitz-TR	hysteria over potential train attack
[12:52]	schestowitz-TR	that would never kill 200,000 Brits anyhow
[12:54]	Techrights-sec2	specific politicians have had an active hand in those 200k deaths
[12:54]	schestowitz-TR	"party like it's y2k"
[12:55]	Techrights-sec2	:(
[12:58]	schestowitz-TR	"They took all the trees and put them in a tree museum / And they charged the people a dollar and a half just to see them" https://www.commondreams.org/views/2022/07/22/capitalisms-practicality-while-we-bake-death | Source: Common Dreams
[12:58]		-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-www.commondreams.org | Opinion | Capitalism's 'Practicality' While We Bake to Death | Tony Norman
● Jul 23
[13:01]	schestowitz-TR	<techrights-news> Dear Brit, don't worry about the person next to you on the train being a bomber or carrying a long knife but the person next to you having COVID-19 because it's statistically obvious what's far more like to kill you https://schestowitz.com/Weblog/archives/2022/07/23/covid-19-soon-a-million-patients/
[13:01]		-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-schestowitz.com Blog Archive UK COVID-19 Data Shows Citizens Should Keep Distance and Keep the Masks on
[13:01]	Techrights-sec2	ack
[13:10]	schestowitz-TR	my sister was told off for wearing a mask at work
[13:10]	schestowitz-TR	(of course later she caught the virus)
[13:10]	schestowitz-TR	polticians who wear is NOW will get trolled
[13:10]	schestowitz-TR	because it has been politicised
[13:10]	schestowitz-TR	and if they speak of organised hate crimes they get called "phobic"
[13:10]	schestowitz-TR	like thr "irrational fear" of Microsoft
[13:10]	schestowitz-TR	but that's another topic
[13:10]	schestowitz-TR	I'm gonna make some epo memes now
[13:10]	schestowitz-TR	tonight I will speak to marius
[13:11]	Techrights-sec2	everything in the US is politicized , IMO due to the pervasiveness of 
[13:11]	Techrights-sec2	Facebook and other divisive social control media.  
[13:11]	Techrights-sec2	The EU is not a bastion of rationality though, Facebook, Tiktok and other
[13:11]	Techrights-sec2	mind viruses are spreading 
[13:12]	schestowitz-TR	quit being a facebookphobe, that's racist and luddite
[13:13]	Techrights-sec2	:/
[13:13]	schestowitz-TR	"but I have phd in tech field"
[13:13]	schestowitz-TR	"you are crazy, are you on the spectrum???"
[13:13]	schestowitz-TR	(voting [sic] machines come to mind)
[13:13]	schestowitz-TR	"do you support trump??????"
[13:19]	schestowitz-TR	metal poetry
[13:19]	schestowitz-TR	*mental
[13:19]	schestowitz-TR	when they are done destroying the media
[13:19]	schestowitz-TR	they will destroy how future gens "consume" information
[13:19]	schestowitz-TR	when they weed out traffic to what used to be made
[13:19]	schestowitz-TR	they will claim the latter is "better"
[13:19]	schestowitz-TR	it's a bit of a loop
[13:19]	schestowitz-TR	but I can't quite articulate it just yet
[13:19]	schestowitz-TR	the key point is
[13:19]	schestowitz-TR	convince young people that reading news sites is "uncool"
[13:19]	schestowitz-TR	or "dead"
[13:19]	schestowitz-TR	and that "your friends" (zuck, algo, musk) know better
[13:19]	Techrights-sec2	ack
[13:19]	schestowitz-TR	and are journalism
[13:19]	schestowitz-TR	twitter advertises itself as news outlet about ukraine
[13:19]	schestowitz-TR	I took screenshots months ago
[13:19]	schestowitz-TR	when I left it
[13:19]	schestowitz-TR	xrevan still keeps linking to social control media as a source of "news"
[13:19]	schestowitz-TR	re ukraine/russia
[13:20]	Techrights-sec2	there was a good blog post about the tragic generational differences
[13:20]	Techrights-sec2	about the newer generations not using computers but insted being exploited yby
[13:20]	Techrights-sec2	them instead
[13:20]	Techrights-sec2	:(
[13:22]	Techrights-sec2	social control media is -- at best -- hearsay
[13:22]	Techrights-sec2	it can be kind of used as a pointer to find real source but then one has to
[13:22]	Techrights-sec2	ask at the same time, which messages were suppressed and why was the message
[13:22]	Techrights-sec2	received chosen for advancement
[13:24]	schestowitz-TR	send him or her one of the many articles about much older experiments by FB 
[13:24]	schestowitz-TR	so-called experimenta
[13:24]	schestowitz-TR	manuipulatio  of emoption
[13:24]	schestowitz-TR	with the middleman ("platform") as the bookie or the power broker
[13:25]	schestowitz-TR	agenda-setter
[13:25]	schestowitz-TR	inciter
[13:25]	schestowitz-TR	suppressor
[13:25]	schestowitz-TR	spinner
[13:25]	schestowitz-TR	....
[13:25]	schestowitz-TR	(distractor from other scandals or burning issues)
[13:25]	schestowitz-TR	Or burning THE issues
[13:30]	Techrights-sec2	It is difficult to get a man to understand something, when his salary depends upon his not understanding it!  """
[13:30]	Techrights-sec2	There is also the addiction factor.  Like other types of junkies they deny
[13:30]	Techrights-sec2	not just the addiction but the vehicle for it and the fallout from it.
[13:30]	Techrights-sec2	there was a report the other week confirming that many of the politicians 
[13:30]	Techrights-sec2	I had supsected of being influenced by the kremlin, through money, actually
[13:30]	Techrights-sec2	were;  I can't find the links again though. I think they were included 
[13:30]	Techrights-sec2	in one of the batches
[13:34]	schestowitz-TR	from my own experiene, twitter can be "adddictive" becayse
[13:34]	schestowitz-TR	a) fomo
[13:34]	schestowitz-TR	b) notification
[13:34]	schestowitz-TR	c) a sense of impact, rewarded, like gamification
[13:34]	schestowitz-TR	angry birds, with like 330,000 points just to pass some level in 20 second
[13:34]	schestowitz-TR	the new video you sent re smartphone mentions the mental impact of notifications in one's pocket
[13:34]	schestowitz-TR	or stress, or overload outside your pace and tccontrol
[13:34]	schestowitz-TR	they push messages to you
[13:34]	schestowitz-TR	rather than you pulling when free/available
[13:34]	schestowitz-TR	the way I've done email for years now is once a day in batches
[13:34]	schestowitz-TR	I sent that "smart"phone video to rianne
[13:34]	schestowitz-TR	she doesn't use such shit
[13:34]	schestowitz-TR	but she did a decade ago
[13:34]	schestowitz-TR	I was a 'second hand smoker' of that sort of thing (through her)
[13:34]	schestowitz-TR	did not contriobute anything to my life
[13:34]	schestowitz-TR	when we sit to eat we talk
[13:34]	schestowitz-TR	GASP... to each other
[13:36]	schestowitz-TR	i try to teach my mom to do the same
[13:36]	schestowitz-TR	it's hard to treat addicts
[13:36]	schestowitz-TR	whoa re surrounded by other addcucius
[13:36]	schestowitz-TR	and are therefore lacking the capacity to comprehend their inadequacy
[13:39]	schestowitz-TR	==
[13:39]	schestowitz-TR	it should be able table manners ands social cue, tact 
[13:39]	schestowitz-TR	don't pick up something off the table when someone talks to you
[13:39]	schestowitz-TR	esp. don't stare into it and then mubme
[13:39]	schestowitz-TR	"muhhhh?"
[13:39]	schestowitz-TR	*mumble
[13:39]	schestowitz-TR	soner or later decent people won't sit down to interact with you
[13:39]	schestowitz-TR	and you will limit your live to other addicts
[13:39]	schestowitz-TR	sitting for dinner with miss sandbag
[13:39]	schestowitz-TR	pumping shit to your brain
[13:40]	Techrights-sec2	oh my
[13:40]	Techrights-sec2	yes, as far as I can tell all the rules about dealing with addicts apply
[13:40]	Techrights-sec2	but it's not just a basic addiction, the devices contain multple programs
[13:40]	Techrights-sec2	each acting effectively as Skinner boxes to control and program the victim
[13:40]	Techrights-sec2	Maybe a slap-and-stomp campaign can be cultivated globally?
[13:40]	Techrights-sec2	slap the phone down and stomp on it, if it is brought out at the table
[13:40]	Techrights-sec2	kids already are subjected to many more times the number of contact hours
[13:40]	Techrights-sec2	to corporate maniuplation than with their own "friends" and relatives
[13:40]	Techrights-sec2	yes, pumping shit and preventing learning and socialization
[13:41]	schestowitz-TR	I don't plan to ever have kids, so whatever they teach them re copyright, corporations etc.
[13:41]	schestowitz-TR	likely can be kept at bay
[13:41]	schestowitz-TR	the state does not educate kids here
[13:41]	schestowitz-TR	it "prepares" them
[13:41]	Techrights-sec2	afaik there is copyright maximalist lying which is the foundation of the 
[13:41]	Techrights-sec2	curriculum and no facts are brought up, ever, in that regard
[13:43]	schestowitz-TR	years ago, in euipo, and again since then as epo head, campinos bragged about pushing this 
[13:43]	schestowitz-TR	"IP" propaganda into schools
[13:43]	schestowitz-TR	moaning that the kids aren't bveing "taught" this shit
[13:43]	schestowitz-TR	BTW, he's a lawyer for a bank
[13:43]	schestowitz-TR	rebranded as "IP" guru
[13:43]	schestowitz-TR	he's a liar and crim
[13:43]	schestowitz-TR	I covered somke of his lying videos
[13:43]	schestowitz-TR	and mentioned his lying CV this morning in the video
[13:43]	schestowitz-TR	he's a pser
[13:43]	schestowitz-TR	*(poser
[13:43]	schestowitz-TR	and they try to target the next generations
[13:44]	schestowitz-TR	kids
[13:44]	schestowitz-TR	to start over with more leverage over public perceptions
[13:44]	Techrights-sec2	it's so bad that probably most people think that FOSS is illegal
[13:44]	Techrights-sec2	yes I read about him ;)
[13:44]	Techrights-sec2	I was going to modify one script but had to fix some other scripts first
[13:44]	Techrights-sec2	as a prerequisite to that and now I can't recall even which script it was
[13:44]	Techrights-sec2	let alone the planned task.  Oh well
[13:45]	Techrights-sec2	At least the prerequisites are taken care of now.
[13:46]	Techrights-sec2	no it was before we resumed chatting, it was hours ago and I had completely   
[13:46]	Techrights-sec2	forgotten about it; 
[13:46]	Techrights-sec2	I'll have to have coffee or somethning else to see if the idea wanders back in
[13:46]	Techrights-sec2	as it had wandered out
[13:47]	schestowitz-TR	sorry, I'm distracted you
[13:47]	schestowitz-TR	*I'vee
[13:47]	schestowitz-TR	later.... :-)
[13:47]	schestowitz-TR	happens twiece to me today, 2pm here
[13:47]	schestowitz-TR	but I told rianne, what ZI do remembere is that neither was of importance
[13:47]	schestowitz-TR	and thinking about it would not be worth the time
[13:48]	Techrights-sec2	Git is hard to get to work in a read-only context, so I'm not sure about
[13:48]	Techrights-sec2	how to deal with the DocumentRoot on news. yet
● Jul 23
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[14:18]	Techrights-sec2	https://www.nytimes.com/2022/07/21/business/software-james-bessen-book.html
[14:18]	Techrights-sec2	Not just software patents, but decommitization through gratuitous complexity
[14:18]		-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-www.nytimes.com | How Software Is Stifling Competition and Slowing Innovation - The New York Times
[14:20]	schestowitz-TR	Bessen knows Techreights
[14:20]	schestowitz-TR	I hope we taught him about several opther aspects
[14:20]	schestowitz-TR	does this go into next Daily Links?
[14:20]	schestowitz-TR	don't want to replicate effort
[14:20]	schestowitz-TR	thanks
[14:21]	Techrights-sec2	already there
[14:21]	Techrights-sec2	but worth extra attention since it does bring up software patents without
[14:21]	Techrights-sec2	naming them explicitly and it does at the same time perpetuate some persistent
[14:21]	Techrights-sec2	bits of disinformation too
[14:21]	schestowitz-TR	maybe to fit the editorial mindset of nytimes and boston u
[14:22]	schestowitz-TR	nobody gets tenures foer saying bolish patents
[14:22]	schestowitz-TR	only emeritus like richard wolff can say this
[14:22]	Techrights-sec2	probaly so
[14:22]	Techrights-sec2	^probably
[14:33]	Techrights-sec2	looking at the navigation, if a post gets updated the backlink from the current
[14:33]	Techrights-sec2	post points to it but the updated post does not reciprocate; perhaps it would
[14:33]	Techrights-sec2	be better to roll back that change from the other day and not update the
[14:33]	Techrights-sec2	backlink, it might be enough just to leave it in the feed; 
[14:33]	schestowitz-TR	as long as there is another navigational path, such as "calendar" style index,
[14:33]	schestowitz-TR	it would let everything get indexed and reindexed
[14:33]	schestowitz-TR	not many people press back and forth
[14:33]	schestowitz-TR	esp. those who do this within their feed-reading software, wherein the UI has a ton more
[14:33]	schestowitz-TR	flexibility
[14:33]	Techrights-sec2	yes above the footer, it is there in the "Other Recent Tux Machines" list of  
[14:33]	Techrights-sec2	recent posts.
[14:33]	Techrights-sec2	Yes.          
[14:35]	schestowitz-TR	pardon me doing lots of memes
[14:35]	schestowitz-TR	by popular demand
[14:35]	schestowitz-TR	it helps morale there
[14:35]	schestowitz-TR	and some get sent to me
[14:35]	schestowitz-TR	they come for the money
[14:35]	schestowitz-TR	and stay for the rotten tomatoes
[14:58]	Techrights-sec2	np
[14:58]	Techrights-sec2	fixed
● Jul 23
[15:14]	schestowitz-TR	<techrights-news> UK Government Advice on COVID-19 is a Hoax (Pretending It's No Longer a Peril That Costs Many Lives) https://schestowitz.com/Weblog/archives/2022/07/23/safely-with-covid/
[15:14]		-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-schestowitz.com Blog Archive UK Government Advice on COVID-19 is a Hoax (Pretending Its No Longer a Peril That Costs Many Lives)
[15:14]	Techrights-sec2	still wondering what task I had planned for in the morning
[15:14]	Techrights-sec2	oh well, I'll avoid changing anything till tomorrow so that there is some
[15:14]	Techrights-sec2	stability in the UI
[15:17]	Techrights-sec2	ack
[15:18]	schestowitz-TR	I could, in hindsight, say
[15:18]	schestowitz-TR	"living safely with AIDS"
[15:18]	schestowitz-TR	to use their text there
[15:18]	schestowitz-TR	"living safely with flammable buildings"
[15:18]	schestowitz-TR	"living safely with Boris" LOL!
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[15:23]	schestowitz-TR	<techrights-news> [Meme] Back to Normal Just Means Adoption of Nihilism or Mass Culling of the Weak (Old People Who Typically Enjoyed Pensions) https://schestowitz.com/Weblog/archives/2022/07/23/got-covid-meme/
[15:23]		-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-schestowitz.com Blog Archive [Meme] Back to Normal Just Means Adoption of Nihilism or Mass Culling of the Weak (Old People Who Typically Enjoyed Pensions)
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[15:28]	schestowitz-TR	there is no doubt in my mind
[15:28]	schestowitz-TR	a) financial institutions benefit from this
[15:28]	schestowitz-TR	b) pension companies depend on such culling
[15:28]	schestowitz-TR	c) behind the scnes they lobby a bit to "open up"
[15:28]	schestowitz-TR	this is what happens in rotting econommies
[15:28]	schestowitz-TR	German during hyper inflation gassed people
[15:28]	schestowitz-TR	Today we do it with class, and leave hospital bills to relatives too
[15:28]	schestowitz-TR	Germany did not send "gas bills" to relatives
[15:28]	schestowitz-TR	200,000 dead (usually old, over 60) Brits, life shortened by 20 years
[15:28]	schestowitz-TR	20x20,000poundx200,000
[15:28]	schestowitz-TR	ctrlalt+f for kclac
[15:28]	schestowitz-TR	1.6 trillion pounds
[15:28]	schestowitz-TR	the national deficit (debt) here is about 2.2 trillion by now, I think
[15:28]	schestowitz-TR	unlike spanish flu, this virus very specifically kills people who are no longer working
[15:28]	schestowitz-TR	i.e. they don't bring much "capital" into the economy
[15:28]	schestowitz-TR	I
[15:28]	schestowitz-TR	I am NOT suggesting this was designed or intentional
[15:28]	schestowitz-TR	rather, it was embraced by many opportunists
[15:28]	schestowitz-TR	each with her or his own agenbda
[15:28]	schestowitz-TR	like companies being bailed out
[15:28]	schestowitz-TR	in the name of pandemic relief
[15:28]	schestowitz-TR	or shutting down small rivals
[15:28]	schestowitz-TR	now food prices go through the roofB
[15:29]	Techrights-sec2	ack
[15:30]	Techrights-sec2	b) if they didn't before they do now :/
[15:30]	Techrights-sec2	that pandemic has been going on long enough that I would expect the gamblers to
[15:30]	Techrights-sec2	try to count on it for a profit
[15:30]	Techrights-sec2	yes, embraced by opportunists and similar
[15:37]	schestowitz-TR	sen grayson;
[15:38]	schestowitz-TR	"don't stop working. if you stop working, die quickly"
[15:38]	schestowitz-TR	make away for new workers, you are taking up valuable space :/
[15:38]	schestowitz-TR	*way
[15:38]	schestowitz-TR	"see you in heaven..." *sniggers* *sends funeral bills"
[15:38]	schestowitz-TR	side story, my sister got married in 2005 or 06
[15:38]	schestowitz-TR	must be the latter
[15:38]	schestowitz-TR	as I already wrote in BN
[15:38]	schestowitz-TR	at the wedding, I spent like 2 hours chatting with my dad's cousin 
[15:38]	schestowitz-TR	he felt like he didn't make use of his life
[15:38]	schestowitz-TR	and wasted it away sitting on inherited money
[15:38]	schestowitz-TR	he still hasn't found himself
[15:38]	schestowitz-TR	but he was fascinated by what I was doing online
[15:38]	schestowitz-TR	his kids are both do-nothing losers
[15:38]	schestowitz-TR	apparently common in such families with little incentive to study, work...
[15:38]	schestowitz-TR	unlike his family, we all need to work, all the time... he was never in that position
[15:38]	schestowitz-TR	as his dad was very very lucky
[15:38]	Techrights-sec2	ack
[15:38]	Techrights-sec2	:(
[15:38]	Techrights-sec2	yes that kind of money tends to do that to people
[15:44]	schestowitz-TR	some people realise at 20 that the money can technically go with them to the grave
[15:44]	schestowitz-TR	technically
[15:44]	schestowitz-TR	with "them"
[15:44]	schestowitz-TR	some realise it at 40 
[15:44]	schestowitz-TR	but by then have dependpents
[15:44]	schestowitz-TR	some realise this at 80
[15:44]	schestowitz-TR	then they waste away money on gold and golf shit
[15:44]	schestowitz-TR	rianne bought land 2 months ago
[15:44]	schestowitz-TR	to help bail out the sister
[15:44]	schestowitz-TR	(not really out of choice)
[15:47]	schestowitz-TR	some rich people justify self-harm by saying shallow stuff like "need to enjoy life"
[15:47]	schestowitz-TR	equating narcotics with happiness
[15:47]	schestowitz-TR	they're in for quite a ride, esp. when the dependability stops being a choice
[15:47]	schestowitz-TR	nicotine, booze, pretty much all social control media ;-)
[15:49]	schestowitz-TR	(uncle in hospital now is how I matured faster as a teen, mentally)
[15:49]	schestowitz-TR	he was in his early 70 and considered me like his fourth son (he still does)
[15:52]	schestowitz-TR	20+ years ago I said I'd travel there is something happen
[15:52]	schestowitz-TR	now with covid and post 9/11... very improbable
[15:53]	schestowitz-TR	even just the latter (travel got very unpleasant)
[15:53]	schestowitz-TR	when I was a kid flights were FUN! I looked forwar to the FLIGHTS
[15:53]	schestowitz-TR	nice food, sofa-like cushions
[15:53]	schestowitz-TR	passengers with manners
[15:53]	schestowitz-TR	when they turn off the light, quiet
[15:53]	schestowitz-TR	like in the cinema
[15:55]	schestowitz-TR	planes, my mom told me, reserve some seats for ewmergenices like funerals
[15:55]	schestowitz-TR	like when she flew to one
[15:55]	schestowitz-TR	I am probably forgetting whose... maybe her dad's
[15:55]	schestowitz-TR	coming back from holiday
[15:56]	schestowitz-TR	(yes, it was her dad's... and her dad told her not to go on holiday that time...
[15:56]	schestowitz-TR	so she felt guilt after that)
● Jul 23
[16:02]	schestowitz-TR	===
[16:02]	schestowitz-TR	they put my mom on an overbooked flight
[16:02]	schestowitz-TR	and caused stress for both of us
[16:02]	schestowitz-TR	iirc, that was either jet2 or easyjet 
[16:02]	schestowitz-TR	I wrote about it in my blog around 2014
[16:02]	schestowitz-TR	vis-a-vis, why NOT to fly anymore
[16:02]	schestowitz-TR	with practice like these, airlines should go under
[16:02]	schestowitz-TR	michael west does s aseries of articles about quantas right now
[16:02]	schestowitz-TR	like hos bailout money got sent to a chinese contractors
[16:02]	schestowitz-TR	so aussies basically subsidise some foreign fiurm that takes Aussie jobs
[16:02]	schestowitz-TR	offshore
[16:02]	schestowitz-TR	in my last flight, berlin, they put us on temporary 'airport' anc charge airport fees as if we were getting served
[16:02]	schestowitz-TR	and there were a lot of annoying delays and not even enough setas in whgich to wait for the plane... for hours
[16:02]	schestowitz-TR	many passengers literally just sat on the dirty floor
[16:02]	schestowitz-TR	welcome to deutschland
[16:02]	schestowitz-TR	the master race
[16:04]	Techrights-sec2	ack
[16:07]	schestowitz-TR	the last 3 air strips sucked out any remannt of desire to travel by air
[16:07]	schestowitz-TR	going tby boat to ireland
[16:07]	schestowitz-TR	removing the need for all that digit-trip searching
[16:07]	schestowitz-TR	and the boat itself give you pleny of room and things to do... in comfort
[16:07]	schestowitz-TR	*air trips
[16:07]	schestowitz-TR	*digital-step searching
[16:07]	schestowitz-TR	they should call it "air strips"
[16:07]	schestowitz-TR	they scan you naked as precondition for boarding a plane
[16:07]	schestowitz-TR	but they don't test you for covid-19
[16:07]	schestowitz-TR	trip-=strip - many punchline possible along those lines
[16:08]	Techrights-sec2	it's about establishing demeaning, dehumanizing behavior and normalizing
[16:08]	Techrights-sec2	that kind of treatment throughout society
[16:10]	schestowitz-TR	Ring has many punchlines associated with it now
[16:10]	schestowitz-TR	with "spy meters" they keep trying new pressure atctics
[16:10]	schestowitz-TR	now they phone us to scare us
[16:10]	schestowitz-TR	maybe one day the water companies (treatment companies) will save that "to save water"
[16:10]	schestowitz-TR	they need to attach some digital circuitry to your "dumb" bowl
[16:10]	schestowitz-TR	"OK, Google!"
[16:18]	schestowitz-TR	gen z: ok, master
[16:18]	schestowitz-TR	gen z_b: ok, master, may I have another one (reference)
[16:18]	schestowitz-TR	amazonp pays you in credit
[16:18]	schestowitz-TR	fb pays you in "likes"
[16:18]	schestowitz-TR	icbm pays fedora volunteers with panda NFTs (the community is too dead to get any, pocock had many "badges"
[16:18]	schestowitz-TR	and they still took lawyers to crush his voice)
[16:18]	schestowitz-TR	gulag poays in search rankings
[16:18]	schestowitz-TR	microsoft pays for you to open the gates to the trojan horse where you work/ed
[16:18]	schestowitz-TR	apropos, david stenberg
[16:18]	schestowitz-TR	*daniel
[16:18]	schestowitz-TR	i think you saw my post from last night
[16:18]	schestowitz-TR	I could not help myself any longer
[16:18]	schestowitz-TR	he's boapsting about the 'charity' Microsoft(TM)
[16:18]	schestowitz-TR	his blog is full of this shit
[16:18]	schestowitz-TR	sweden lost many citizens who left as they felt like the country had become us proxy
[16:18]	schestowitz-TR	I started hearing this around 2004/5
[16:18]	Techrights-sec2	ack
[16:18]	Techrights-sec2	stenberg is selling out for so very little
[16:18]	Techrights-sec2	I saw his blog post and, yes, your post
[16:18]	Techrights-sec2	Sweden is where Bill Gates personally invente The Internet don't you know?
[16:33]	schestowitz-TR	at least Microsoft sent the message to Daniel via a "She/her" booster
[16:33]	schestowitz-TR	because nothing says "progressive" like a bunch of criminals and thugs
[16:33]	schestowitz-TR	i did mention daniel's history of not getting us visa
[16:33]	schestowitz-TR	for some really bizarre reasons
[16:33]	schestowitz-TR	I don't even wish to speculate if encryption was in some way connected to it
[16:33]	schestowitz-TR	given stories I heard of people who develop their own ciphers 
[16:33]	schestowitz-TR	and the menacing treatment they receive for it
[16:33]	schestowitz-TR	"the invisible threat"
[16:33]	schestowitz-TR	or "fear of the invisiblke" rathere
[16:33]	schestowitz-TR	like a couple of manunian who withdraw money once a year and pay for everything with cash
[16:33]	schestowitz-TR	*mancuinians
[16:33]	schestowitz-TR	and wear masks in summer 2022
[16:33]	schestowitz-TR	the mostly deadly covid19 by far so far...
[16:33]	schestowitz-TR	most deadly SUMMER
[16:33]	schestowitz-TR	I posted the numberc comparatively
[16:35]	Techrights-sec2	yes I recall that
[16:35]	Techrights-sec2	no idea
[16:35]	Techrights-sec2	he never wrote a retrospective analysis
[16:37]	schestowitz-TR	maybe I should do another post about it
[16:37]	schestowitz-TR	because the numbers got very ugly this month
[16:37]	schestowitz-TR	(covid19)
[16:37]	schestowitz-TR	re stenberg, he wrote a long and highly cited post detailing the chronology of his passport ordeal maybe 3 years aog
[16:37]	schestowitz-TR	when he finally, very belatedlky, got one
[16:37]	schestowitz-TR	no idea why he even bothered tbh
[16:37]	schestowitz-TR	the time wasting on such flights can be used to DeleteGithub or GiveUpGitHub sans stupid hashtags
[16:37]	schestowitz-TR	also the time he wastes tweeting and bragging about ShitHub "stars"
[16:37]	schestowitz-TR	I didn't take screenshots of those rave posts
[16:37]	schestowitz-TR	using Microsoft metrics for showoff
[16:37]	Techrights-sec2	yes but I never saw an explanation for the delay or why he bothered
[16:37]	Techrights-sec2	maybe if we send him some t-shirts and the occasional envelope of petty cash
[16:37]	Techrights-sec2	he'll change his tune (again)
[16:39]	schestowitz-TR	he even boasted about some stupid Microsoft NFT
[16:39]	schestowitz-TR	something about the space mission
[16:39]	schestowitz-TR	everyone got a "arctic vault" NFT
[16:39]	schestowitz-TR	he wrote some blog or several blog posts to brag about this crap
[16:39]	schestowitz-TR	legitimising the prison
[16:39]	schestowitz-TR	with its worthless NFTs
[16:39]	schestowitz-TR	anyway, I'll do a summer to summer comparison now.. covid19
[16:39]	schestowitz-TR	I startt work i  1 hours
[16:49]	schestowitz-TR	this should be interesting
[16:49]	schestowitz-TR	it always echoes what happens in other nations
[16:49]	schestowitz-TR	as the policies on this mater tend to get 'harmonised'
[16:49]	schestowitz-TR	cansscading down for rogue states
[16:49]	schestowitz-TR	regulatory capture
[16:49]	schestowitz-TR	then inherited outwards
[16:49]	schestowitz-TR	<techrights-news> UK 200,000 COVID-19 Deaths Was One Month Ago, Based on New Figures https://schestowitz.com/Weblog/archives/2022/07/23/uk-200000-covid-19-deaths/
[16:49]		-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-schestowitz.com Blog Archive UK 200,000 COVID-19 Deaths Was One Month Ago, Based on New Figures
[16:50]	Techrights-sec2	ack
[16:50]	Techrights-sec2	'harmonization' is used to ratchet down draconian and misdesigned laws
[16:50]	Techrights-sec2	one of the worst examples is copyright
[16:50]	Techrights-sec2	it;s the thin edge of the wedge in cases like that, the rogue states have 
[16:50]	Techrights-sec2	little overt influence but changes for the worse there can still be leveraged
[16:50]	Techrights-sec2	elsewhere.  However it is more common in recent decades for ostensibly 
[16:50]	Techrights-sec2	democratic governments to allow corporations to engage in secret negotiations
[16:50]	Techrights-sec2	^secret, binding
[16:50]	Techrights-sec2	on their behalf and then rubberstamp the results
[16:51]	schestowitz-TR	UPC
[16:53]	Techrights-sec2	UPC reminds me of EPC; When you write EPC, be sure to annotate whether 
[16:53]	Techrights-sec2	you are referring to The European Patent Convention or something else.  
[16:53]	Techrights-sec2	It is not always obvious from the context, and those less familiar with
[16:53]	Techrights-sec2	the topics will probably not guess right
[16:53]	schestowitz-TR	UPC
[16:53]	schestowitz-TR	\
[16:54]	schestowitz-TR	the choice of names is intentioanlly bad
[16:54]	schestowitz-TR	EU
[16:54]	schestowitz-TR	Community
[16:54]	schestowitz-TR	Unity
[16:54]	schestowitz-TR	\
[16:54]	schestowitz-TR	unified
[16:54]	schestowitz-TR	unitary
[16:54]	schestowitz-TR	and something that sounds like EPC
[16:54]	schestowitz-TR	but is in fact a complete violation of the EPC
[16:54]	schestowitz-TR	these are lawyers
[16:54]	schestowitz-TR	they know best how to lie and
[16:54]	schestowitz-TR	how to get away with the lie
[16:54]	schestowitz-TR	and make it seem plausible they didn't mean to mislead
[16:54]	Techrights-sec2	Yes of course, M$ does a lot of the same
[16:54]	Techrights-sec2	"plausible deniability" strikes again
[16:56]	schestowitz-TR	Miguel did this to MAUI 
[16:56]	schestowitz-TR	mexican devs who actually LOVE GNU/Linux
[16:56]	schestowitz-TR	and make a distro
[16:56]	schestowitz-TR	nitrux
[16:56]	schestowitz-TR	I still await some court/case-connected material collected as evidence
[16:56]	schestowitz-TR	it can explain what happened to nat and miguel
[16:56]	schestowitz-TR	patience is a virtue here to avoid publishing unverified material or speculations
[16:57]	Techrights-sec2	excellent
[16:57]	Techrights-sec2	how long before the court material is available?
[16:59]	schestowitz-TR	it is avail;able already, but more work is needed
[16:59]	schestowitz-TR	we do 3 major series atm
[16:59]	schestowitz-TR	I plan to continue the media opne and epo one tonight
[16:59]	schestowitz-TR	and failing tonight, tomorrow
[16:59]	schestowitz-TR	I'm behind on rss feeds and also wait to tyest the new TM site when rianne's shift is finished
[16:59]	Techrights-sec2	ack
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[17:01]	schestowitz-TR	the github one can run/last until 2023
[17:01]	schestowitz-TR	at this turtle pace
[17:01]	schestowitz-TR	publish, test water, get email from the lawyer, carry on
[17:01]	schestowitz-TR	see what bugs them
[17:01]	schestowitz-TR	3 people are very eager to hide the case and get on with it
[17:01]	schestowitz-TR	as they are too young to be unemployed
[17:01]	schestowitz-TR	they don't buy discounted foods and some live in super-expensive estates  
[17:01]	Techrights-sec2	ack
[17:01]	Techrights-sec2	I would guess that their behavior is not unusual for microsofters and
[17:01]	Techrights-sec2	that enough investigation could kick over the ant nest.
[17:05]	schestowitz-TR	mr. hololens should have been arested
[17:05]	schestowitz-TR	mr. gates should have been arrested
[17:05]	schestowitz-TR	they should not "step down" or asked to leave
[17:05]	schestowitz-TR	miguel pretend he's some yuppie pensioner
[17:05]	schestowitz-TR	who do you think he does all day?
[17:05]	schestowitz-TR	(intel's last CEO should have also been arrestyed, but when did we last see CEO arrest in US of amnesty?)
[17:05]	schestowitz-TR	at Microsoft, like most places (epo also, plus eupipo, eu, eipo), everything is connected
[17:05]	schestowitz-TR	the miguel and nat thing is connected to azure too
[17:05]	schestowitz-TR	they went one suffocation "too far"
[17:05]	schestowitz-TR	not a "well, he's dead"
[17:06]	Techrights-sec2	yep
[17:06]	Techrights-sec2	ack
[17:07]	schestowitz-TR	clue is also in the header of the shithub series
[17:07]	schestowitz-TR	"why don't you just kill yourself"
[17:07]	schestowitz-TR	real sms
[17:07]	schestowitz-TR	well, messenger, not sms
[17:07]	schestowitz-TR	who does sms these days?
[17:12]	Techrights-sec2	afaik the SCO case is still ongoing
[17:12]	Techrights-sec2	and still sponsored by M$
[17:12]	Techrights-sec2	MIT as good as killed him
[17:12]	Techrights-sec2	MIT could have ended the case, heck they could have prevented it from starting
[17:12]	Techrights-sec2	but they were already in Bill's/Epstein's money by then weren't they?
[17:13]	schestowitz-TR	debian (spi) spent a fortune tryint to "kill" a site (in reality, just "relocating" all the very ame stories)
[17:13]	schestowitz-TR	when there are rich sponsors like in sco case trying to eliminate voices and you report every step ytou can prevent that from working
[17:13]	schestowitz-TR	aaron swartz killed himelf as it would be too expensive to thwart all the charges and his parents would have to sell their home
[17:13]	schestowitz-TR	iirc, based on what larry lessig had said
[17:13]	schestowitz-TR	lawyers avail themselves to the rich by making the prpocess more expensive
[17:13]	schestowitz-TR	and thus favourable to the rich
[17:13]	schestowitz-TR	faik daniel p did all the work on his won and it was a LOT of work
[17:13]	schestowitz-TR	like 500-page PDF
[17:13]	schestowitz-TR	bill has held all the "blue chips" since the late 90s or early 2000s
[17:14]	Techrights-sec2	probably
[17:15]	schestowitz-TR	mit wrote a self-arse-covering report both for itself/bill and for itself/jstor 
[17:15]	schestowitz-TR	"report"
[17:15]	schestowitz-TR	another INDUSTRY
[17:15]	schestowitz-TR	"try to seem professional and objective"
[17:15]	schestowitz-TR	"shut up, you are being paid" -van der beld on OOXML at ECMA
[17:25]	schestowitz-TR	<techrights-news> NHS Summer Figures Compared (COVID-19 in 2020, 2021, and 2022) https://schestowitz.com/Weblog/archives/2022/07/23/apples-to-apples/
[17:25]		-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-schestowitz.com Blog Archive NHS Summer Figures Compared (COVID-19 in 2020, 2021, and 2022)
[17:28]	schestowitz-TR	turns out it's even more profound then I thought
[17:28]	schestowitz-TR	see? covid-19 became benign
[17:28]	schestowitz-TR	now go to the pub
[17:28]	schestowitz-TR	you can't save our grandparents
[17:28]	schestowitz-TR	they got "products'... those products are 99.99% effective because it's no longer in the news
[17:28]	Techrights-sec2	ack
[17:28]	Techrights-sec2	:(
[17:31]	schestowitz-TR	 "There's so much bad stuff going on in the world right now. Apart from war (in Ukraine and other parts of the world) and pandemic (COVID19), there's looming and increasingly unavoidable planetary catastrophe incoming anyway." gemini://luka.smol.pub/1658588727
[17:31]	Techrights-sec2	ack
[17:32]	schestowitz-TR	added to Planet 10 mins ago
[17:32]	schestowitz-TR	I will post Daily Links soon
[17:32]	Techrights-sec2	reading
[17:32]	Techrights-sec2	ack
[17:33]	schestowitz-TR	click OK ok cookies, ignore ads, don't click on the tits in the sidebar
[17:33]	schestowitz-TR	no mwtter "you'll never guess what happened next.."
[17:39]	schestowitz-TR	at are the barriers to open culture? Heres what the CC community has to say - Creative Commons
[17:40]	schestowitz-TR	<techrights-news> Lack of knowledge https://truthout.org/articles/floridas-repressive-laws-are-exacerbating-a-growing-national-teacher-sh
[17:40]		-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-truthout.org | Florida's Repressive Laws Are Exacerbating a Growing National Teacher Shortage
[17:40]	schestowitz-TR	https://truthout.org/articles/floridas-repressive-laws-are-exacerbating-a-growing-national-teacher-shortage/
[17:54]	schestowitz-TR	<techrights-news> Social control media is shit. The public realises this. More and more over time. TechDirt pushes back. No idea why this insistence... https://www.techdirt.com/2022/07/22/polling-the-public-about-social-media-policies-turns-up-nothing-particularly-useful/ | Source: Techdirt
[17:54]		-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-Polling The Public About Social Media Policies Turns Up Nothing Particularly Useful | Techdirt
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[18:05]	schestowitz-TR	"Pregnant People"... what people get pregnant? https://www.thenation.com/article/politics/right-to-travel-abortion/ | Source: The Nation
[18:05]		-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-www.thenation.com | Could GOP States Really Stop Pregnant People From Traveling to Get Abortions? | The Nation
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[18:06]	schestowitz-TR	"people with dicks"
[18:07]	schestowitz-TR	this is the sort of thing creeping into sites like The Nation
[18:07]	schestowitz-TR	and sometimes Common Dreams
[18:07]	schestowitz-TR	afaik, not CounterPunch
[18:07]	schestowitz-TR	that I noticed
[18:09]	Techrights-sec2	ack
[18:09]	Techrights-sec2	yep
[18:09]	Techrights-sec2	and many places
[18:09]	Techrights-sec2	as far as I can tell it's all about derailing the discussions and opening up
[18:09]	Techrights-sec2	opportunities for social control media mobs to brigade the targeted individuals
[18:10]	schestowitz-TR	"mammals with trunks"
[18:16]	schestowitz-TR	<techrights-news> "Watering the garden is important to do regularly if you want your plants to thrive." https://hackaday.com/2022/07/22/watering-the-garden-with-a-solar-powered-system/ | Source: Hackaday
[18:16]		-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-Watering The Garden With A Solar-Powered System | Hackaday
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