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-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-news.tuxmachines.org | Tux Machines β€” Introducing Venus, a new world for Perl 5"Aug 23 06:00
schestowitz-TR2 Reddit is dying based on this graph https://gs.statcounter.com/social-media-stats#monthly-200901-202208Aug 23 06:35
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-gs.statcounter.com | Social Media Stats Worldwide | Statcounter Global StatsAug 23 06:35
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schestowitz-TR2<techrights-news> ➲ π•Ώπ–šπ– π•Έπ–†π–ˆπ–π–Žπ–“π–Šπ–˜ ⨦ (NEW): 9 Best Free and Open Source Perl Static Site Generators ⇨ https://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/08/23/9_Best_Free_and_Open_Source_Perl_Static_Site_Generators.shtml | β™Ύ Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/08/23/9_Best_Free_and_Open_Source_Perl_Static_Site_Generators.gmi ∎Aug 23 08:41
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-news.tuxmachines.org | Tux Machines β€” 9 Best Free and Open Source Perl Static Site GeneratorsAug 23 08:41
schestowitz-TR2<techrights-news> "This is about the gathering crisis in the UK, not any other crisis-hit nation." http://www.antipope.org/charlie/blog-static/2022/08/the-gathering-crisis.htmlAug 23 09:09
schestowitz-TR2-TechrightsSocial/#boycottnovell-social- www.antipope.org | The gathering crisis - Charlie's DiaryAug 23 09:09
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-www.antipope.org | The gathering crisis - Charlie's DiaryAug 23 09:09
schestowitz-TR2<techrights-news> "Brexit hasn't delivered trade opportunities, but mountains of red tape, with a hit to the economy estimated at roughly 6% so far. But the UK economy already shrank 11% in 2020, the worst year since 1709." http://www.antipope.org/charlie/blog-static/2022/08/the-gathering-crisis.htmlAug 23 09:09
schestowitz-TR2 "The health service is in crisis. Inflation is wiping out pensions and savings. A general strike seems possible by the end of the year, something that hasn't hit the UK since 1926." http://www.antipope.org/charlie/blog-static/2022/08/the-gathering-crisis.htmlAug 23 09:09
schestowitz-TR2 This would be absolutely disastrous for people who host from home https://www.politico.eu/article/uk-business-industry-energy-europe-france-winter/Aug 23 09:09
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-www.politico.eu | Faltering French connection leaves UK fearing winter blackouts – POLITICOAug 23 09:09
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schestowitz-TR2I'm reminded of the Theresa May "mexican wave" 'incident'; when BoJo does it, it's funny, when she does it we mock itAug 23 10:50
schestowitz-TR2veiled gender discrimination; same for clothing and being promiscuousAug 23 10:50
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schestowitz-TR2I will record re the topic you suggested Aug 23 12:16
schestowitz-TR2after Daily Links Aug 23 12:16
schestowitz-TR2spamnil no activity in 4 daysAug 23 12:16
schestowitz-TR2maybe they took some actionAug 23 12:17
schestowitz-TR2rianne's bday tomorrowAug 23 12:17
schestowitz-TR2hard to think of safe-from-covid activities, except in open spaces or very empty tramAug 23 12:17
schestowitz-TR2re the above article (uk state), I think he cherry-picks the worst of the worstAug 23 12:17
schestowitz-TR2from conversations I've had, we're still nowhere as bad as elsewhereAug 23 12:17
schestowitz-TR2it's a global thingAug 23 12:17
schestowitz-TR2even finland and switzerland have those same issuesAug 23 12:17
Techrights-secackAug 23 12:17
schestowitz-TR2there are many sayings about fooling oneselfAug 23 12:21
schestowitz-TR2I cannot think of just oneAug 23 12:21
schestowitz-TR2a dear old friend asked me yesterday re covid numbersAug 23 12:21
schestowitz-TR2concerned that the media is not covering itAug 23 12:21
schestowitz-TR2I then pointed to my blogAug 23 12:21
schestowitz-TR2rememeber the media also pretended it was just some 'chinese problem' until early 2020Aug 23 12:21
schestowitz-TR2when deaths and admissions were starting to overencumber hospitalsAug 23 12:21
schestowitz-TR2and morguesAug 23 12:21
schestowitz-TR2someone came to our irc channel floating BS trheoriesAug 23 12:21
schestowitz-TR2but also said it was insane that airports had placed no restrictions st allAug 23 12:21
schestowitz-TR2in retrospect, nz dealt with it wellAug 23 12:21
schestowitz-TR2being an island tooAug 23 12:21
Techrights-secyes it was allowed to grow, kind of on purposeAug 23 12:22
schestowitz-TR2I'd say conflating apathy with "on purpose" is active versus passiveAug 23 12:27
schestowitz-TR2it was passively accepted, to keep the "next immediate quarter" OKAug 23 12:27
schestowitz-TR2that's how businesses operateAug 23 12:27
schestowitz-TR2the travel industry does not care about piling of people 80+        Aug 23 12:27
schestowitz-TR2in 'mass graves' or rather crematoriumsAug 23 12:27
schestowitz-TR2they're customers that won't be coming back for many years to come anywayAug 23 12:27
schestowitz-TR2and maybe are not permitted to travel anyway (joint issues, wheel chairs)Aug 23 12:27
mjg59_NZ dealt with covid fine until this year and then utterly fucked it upAug 23 12:27
schestowitz-TR2my mom is comign to that point (sore knees after long-distance travel)Aug 23 12:27
schestowitz-TR2to the point of limiting the  travelAug 23 12:27
schestowitz-TR2that najes walking very hard afterwards, got to respect that...Aug 23 12:27
schestowitz-TR2after many got shotsAug 23 12:27
schestowitz-TR2esp. the very vulnerableAug 23 12:27
schestowitz__[TR]https://www.health.govt.nz/news-mediaAug 23 12:29
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-www.health.govt.nz | News & media | Ministry of Health NZAug 23 12:29
schestowitz__[TR]https://www.health.govt.nz/news-media/news-itemsAug 23 12:29
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-www.health.govt.nz | News items | Ministry of Health NZAug 23 12:30
schestowitz__[TR]https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/country/new-zealand/Aug 23 12:32
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-www.worldometers.info | New Zealand COVID - Coronavirus Statistics - WorldometerAug 23 12:32
schestowitz__[TR]I see nowAug 23 12:32
schestowitz__[TR]you're rightAug 23 12:32
schestowitz__[TR]I didn't noticeAug 23 12:32
mjg59_Yeah turns out I usually am rihtAug 23 12:35
schestowitz-TR2so called "media" stopped reportsing on covidAug 23 12:39
schestowitz-TR2so it's hard to know what happens whereAug 23 12:39
schestowitz-TR2unless one chases the figuresAug 23 12:39
schestowitz-TR2and even then they're usualyl incomplete or  biased, or bothAug 23 12:40
schestowitz-TR2<techrights-news> Linux Foundation and its ilk (i.e. proprietary companies) are actively spreading FUD against "Open Source", which they're merely trying to control. This is little but a FUDfest, hardly a summary of news. https://www.linuxinsider.com/story/coding-vulnerabilities-linux-growth-foss-friction-cap-summer-highlights-176640.htmlAug 23 13:02
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-www.linuxinsider.com | Coding Vulnerabilities, Linux Growth, FOSS Friction Cap Summer HighlightsAug 23 13:02
schestowitz-TR2hallmark of the shittiness of "the news"Aug 23 13:02
schestowitz-TR2Linux foundation = we let you borrow the name "Linux" to use it to attack thingsAug 23 13:03
Techrights-secackAug 23 13:03
schestowitz-TR2<techrights-news> Clued up people have all along said that phone number requirement in Signal was a disaster waiting to happen, a blunder in the making https://www.schneier.com/blog/archives/2022/08/signal-phone-numbers-exposed-in-twilio-hack.htmlAug 23 13:04
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-Signal Phone Numbers Exposed in Twilio Hack - Schneier on SecurityAug 23 13:04
Techrights-secphone numbers as IDs have so many things wrong that it is shocking thatAug 23 13:10
Techrights-secthey are being considered for such useAug 23 13:10
schestowitz-TR2eff-approved, unlike pgpAug 23 13:10
schestowitz-TR2they also shill microsoft DDGAug 23 13:10
schestowitz-TR2go figure...Aug 23 13:10
Techrights-sec:(Aug 23 13:11
schestowitz-TR2 Techrights article on Microsoft DuckDuckGo now in Russian gemini://phreedom.club/~tolstoevsky/articles/2022-08-23-ddg.gmiAug 23 13:50
schestowitz-TR2<techrights-news> Reddit = censorship, even DMCA aside β˜› https://torrentfreak.com/reddits-dmca-removals-surged-15000-in-five-years-220821/ | Source: Torrent FreakAug 23 13:59
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-Reddit's DMCA Removals Surged 15,000% in Five Years * TorrentFreakAug 23 13:59
Techrights-secackAug 23 14:01
schestowitz-TR2it's very good when your work makes it to other places (like raspi revelations to dozens of sites), which then act as impact multipliersAug 23 14:04
schestowitz-TR2the epo too used to be like this around 2015Aug 23 14:04
schestowitz-TR2then they put a stop to itAug 23 14:04
schestowitz-TR2corked the mediaAug 23 14:04
schestowitz-TR2i hope WBers on twitter bias will do as much damage as francis or whatever her name was (FB)Aug 23 14:04
Techrights-sechttps://edition.cnn.com/2022/08/23/tech/twitter-whistleblower-peiter-zat        Aug 23 14:04
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell- ( status 404 @ https://edition.cnn.com/2022/08/23/tech/twitter-whistleblower-peiter-zat )Aug 23 14:04
schestowitz-TR2these sites need to be eradicated compltelyAug 23 14:04
schestowitz-TR2but it is important to put side the brands and tell people why the concept or the construct itself is harmfulAug 23 14:04
schestowitz-TR2RMS has done that for decadesAug 23 14:04
schestowitz-TR2sayign that copying something bad is itself badAug 23 14:04
schestowitz-TR2it's very good when your work makes it to other places (like raspi revelations to dozens of sites), which then act as impact multipliersAug 23 14:04
schestowitz-TR2the epo too used to be like this around 2015Aug 23 14:04
schestowitz-TR2then they put a stop to itAug 23 14:04
schestowitz-TR2corked the mediaAug 23 14:04
schestowitz-TR2i hope WBers on twitter bias will do as much damage as francis or whatever her name was (FB)Aug 23 14:04
schestowitz-TR2these sites need to be eradicated compltelyAug 23 14:04
schestowitz-TR2but it is important to put side the brands and tell people why the concept or the construct itself is harmfulAug 23 14:04
schestowitz-TR2RMS has done that for decadesAug 23 14:05
schestowitz-TR2sayign that copying something bad is itself badAug 23 14:05
Techrights-sechttps://edition.cnn.com/2022/08/23/tech/twitter-whistleblower-peiter-zatack                   Aug 23 14:05
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell- ( status 404 @ https://edition.cnn.com/2022/08/23/tech/twitter-whistleblower-peiter-zatack )Aug 23 14:05
Techrights-sec                   Aug 23 14:23
Techrights-secackAug 23 14:23
Techrights-secthey are a threat to democratic society and sovereignty of nationsAug 23 14:23
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schestowitz-TR2i need some hlp, gulag is not helping Aug 23 15:07
schestowitz-TR2about 5 years ago cia or a court described assange as "sophisticated target"Aug 23 15:07
schestowitz-TR2or something to that effectAug 23 15:07
schestowitz-TR2I cannot find itAug 23 15:07
schestowitz-TR2too much "media" noiseAug 23 15:07
schestowitz-TR2iirc, it was a leaked documentAug 23 15:08
schestowitz-TR2I get some "tweets" from last yearAug 23 15:08
schestowitz-TR2I'm giving upAug 23 15:08
schestowitz-TR2needle in a haystack by nowAug 23 15:08
Techrights-secprobably not possible to find it any more, there is so much chaff out therAug 23 15:10
Techrights-secand the indexes don't cover anything more than a few months old any moreAug 23 15:10
Techrights-sece.g. https://edition.cnn.com/2019/07/16/opinions/julian-assange-wikileaks-campbell/index.htmlAug 23 15:10
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-edition.cnn.com | Julian Assange falsely billed himself as a truth defender (Opinion) - CNNAug 23 15:10
schestowitz-TR2I decided to paraphrase from memory without URL or doc Aug 23 15:10
Techrights-sechttps://www.news.com.au/world/europe/why-julian-assange-is-americas-ultimate-prize/news-story/d99d124da5530e8bdaca5bd5c31e2e2eAug 23 15:25
Techrights-sechttps://www.timeslive.co.za/sunday-times/opinion-and-analysis/2019-04-21-assange-a-modern-christ-crucified-to-assuage-a-hostile-empire/Aug 23 15:25
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell- ( status 403 @ https://www.news.com.au/world/europe/why-julian-assange-is-americas-ultimate-prize/news-story/d99d124da5530e8bdaca5bd5c31e2e2e )Aug 23 15:25
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-www.timeslive.co.za | Assange a modern Christ, crucified to assuage a hostile empireAug 23 15:25
schestowitz-TR2I remember that articleAug 23 15:27
schestowitz-TR2these analogies might even help his detractorsAug 23 15:27
schestowitz-TR2what I looked for is likely a "teet"Aug 23 15:27
schestowitz-TR2sadly, Assange personally and Wikileaks as an org wastes too much time thereAug 23 15:27
schestowitz-TR2posting docsAug 23 15:27
schestowitz-TR2and they're hard to findAug 23 15:27
schestowitz-TR2they did not catalogue those in their web siteAug 23 15:27
Techrights-secstuff "posted" in twitter is lostAug 23 15:28
Techrights-seccontext is already missing the minute it gets published andAug 23 15:28
Techrights-secthere are no meaningful search capabilitiesAug 23 15:28
schestowitz-TR2they would highlight bits in legal docsAug 23 15:30
schestowitz-TR2or leaksAug 23 15:30
schestowitz-TR2and then post only as tweetAug 23 15:30
schestowitz-TR2pardon my typosAug 23 15:30
schestowitz-TR2"teet" LOLAug 23 15:30
schestowitz-TR2maybe a good joke, tiiAug 23 15:30
schestowitz-TR2*oo sucking jake's teatAug 23 15:30
schestowitz-TR2by outsourcing everything to his sms experiment from the early 2000sAug 23 15:30
Techrights-secthat was only them pretending to publish, twitter is too ephemeral for anythingAug 23 15:30
Techrights-secat allAug 23 15:30
schestowitz-TR2I kept telling them to use the site moreAug 23 15:31
schestowitz-TR2and rss feeds etc.Aug 23 15:31
schestowitz-TR2as twitter keps censoring them and locking their accountAug 23 15:31
schestowitz-TR2twitter was already controlling the audienceAug 23 15:31
schestowitz-TR2as the shim between the publisher and ther readersAug 23 15:31
schestowitz-TR2can hide anytthingAug 23 15:31
schestowitz-TR2iwth "HEY HI" as excuseAug 23 15:31
schestowitz-TR2draftAug 23 15:41
schestowitz-TR2crude, will add more, video has a long way to go stillAug 23 15:41
schestowitz-TR2adding a devuan plug-ishAug 23 15:41
Techrights-seccheckingAug 23 15:41
Techrights-secperhaps tie it to the fight about software patents?Aug 23 15:41
schestowitz-TR2ok, will expand on swpats tooAug 23 15:41
Techrights-secthanksAug 23 15:46
schestowitz-TR2random thoughtAug 23 15:50
schestowitz-TR2wikileaks 2006-2009: many good publications, little impactAug 23 15:50
schestowitz-TR2until baer bank, I think (elmer)Aug 23 15:50
schestowitz-TR2and then lawsuit/slappAug 23 15:50
schestowitz-TR2by 2010 they already knew they had to work and pre-plan with media partners (for greater impact)Aug 23 15:50
schestowitz-TR2after all that swedish stuff and more so the 2016 presidential race wikileaks made some enemies with so-called "liberal" mediaAug 23 15:50
schestowitz-TR2so later publications were laregely ignoredAug 23 15:50
schestowitz-TR2like our Intel leaks and WPO material after the media got cooptedAug 23 15:50
schestowitz-TR2*EPOAug 23 15:50
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schestowitz-TR2pingAug 23 17:40
schestowitz-TR2y7ou will like thr draftAug 23 17:40
schestowitz-TR2it's shortAug 23 17:40
schestowitz-TR2but revealingAug 23 17:40
Techrights-secpongAug 23 17:40
Techrights-seccheckingAug 23 17:40
Techrights-seca brief summary or at least a hint about the story could be in the textAug 23 17:40
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Techrights-secShould the text metion "Bakkt" ?Aug 23 17:44
schestowitz-TR2yes, maybe transcript too?Aug 23 17:44
Techrights-secit's about 30 seconds long.  what is the origin of the video?  there shouldAug 23 17:48
Techrights-secbe a link to or explanation of the sourceAug 23 17:48
schestowitz-TR2added bakkt and more linksAug 23 17:52
schestowitz-TR2orally already had the talk'\s linkAug 23 17:52
schestowitz-TR2don't want to send them too much trafficAug 23 17:52
schestowitz-TR2maybe spamnil can arrange someAug 23 17:52
schestowitz-TR2no video in 5 daysAug 23 17:52
schestowitz-TR2i tink i got hims susp[endedAug 23 17:52
Techrights-secthanksAug 23 17:53
Techrights-secthen just a mention of the source not an active link ?Aug 23 17:53
Techrights-secor the name, date, and location of the event?Aug 23 17:53
Techrights-secwho is speaking in the video?Aug 23 17:53
schestowitz-TR2the video desc contains all that infoAug 23 17:54
schestowitz-TR2for those who know what LF is, the speakers name/voice will be knownAug 23 17:54
schestowitz-TR2a transcript MIGHT helpAug 23 17:54
schestowitz-TR2but we have the horse's mouth and it is shortAug 23 17:54
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schestowitz-TR2it's Jim ZemlinAug 23 18:10
schestowitz-TR2he mentions the wife again laterAug 23 18:10
schestowitz-TR2some context would helpAug 23 18:10
schestowitz-TR2he gave this talk around the time her scam was going public (IPO)Aug 23 18:10
schestowitz-TR2at very high valuedAug 23 18:10
schestowitz-TR2people's "wallets" at Bakkt lost like 90% of their valueAug 23 18:10
schestowitz-TR2depending when they joined the "scheme"Aug 23 18:10
schestowitz-TR2and he's so proud of itAug 23 18:10
schestowitz-TR2I won't even comment on her appearance (maybe a matter of taste)Aug 23 18:10
Techrights-secackAug 23 18:23
Techrights-secwhat was baktt claiming to be?Aug 23 18:23
schestowitz-TR2like a "wallet" for 'crypto'Aug 23 18:26
schestowitz-TR2to make it "easy" and "accessible", I thinkAug 23 18:26
schestowitz-TR2anyway, all those cryptocranks are BSAug 23 18:26
schestowitz-TR2inc. those who wear suits and went to HarvardAug 23 18:26
schestowitz-TR2there must be thousands of those "crypto ios hard, let us manage it for you" exhcnages (*scams)Aug 23 18:26
schestowitz-TR2wonder hoiw  many perished and folded with the "assets" and "money" so far this yearAug 23 18:26
schestowitz-TR2bakkt can be nextAug 23 18:26
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