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schestowitz-TR2the logs do have a mention (irc) of the ongoing trolling tactics, wherein rust critics are somehow closeted transphobesOct 23 04:16
Techrights-secad hominem is all they have Oct 23 04:17
Techrights-secsame method used to inject systemd into distrosOct 23 04:17
schestowitz-TR2hence yesterday's meme, without a direct reference that feeds the trollOct 23 04:18
Techrights-secDebian specificiallyOct 23 04:18
Techrights-secusually ignoring them makes them move on and find a weaker targetOct 23 04:19
Techrights-secweaker or more entertaining, eiter oneOct 23 04:19
Techrights-secI suppose soon they'll complain about copraphobes and necrophobesOct 23 04:20
Techrights-sechaving run of of shock materialOct 23 04:20
schestowitz-TR2lolOct 23 04:20
schestowitz-TR2I think we're good either way, as many of these smears and efforts to undermine us have failed (employer, platform, lynch mobs)Oct 23 04:27
Techrights-secthe public is starting to get wise to the lynchmob tactics      Oct 23 04:28
schestowitz-TR2we recently hit 70 sim. users in our self-hosted irc networks. with freenode we could approach 100, but network effect comes at a cost, which we paid when we left that train behindOct 23 04:33
Techrights-secyes, and it seems that at least some others took TR's example to heart andOct 23 04:34
Techrights-secmade their own instances too.Oct 23 04:34
schestowitz-TR2that was the intent. I'm  happy to see gemini moving away from gitlab, as when I researched installing it I was put off.Oct 23 04:35
Techrights-secgemini still has a bit of settling in to do, the spec is not finished yetOct 23 04:36
Techrights-secit's close thoughOct 23 04:36
schestowitz-TR2the project is very new (2019 afaik)Oct 23 04:36
Techrights-secIt's quite new, it's a good move but as stated before, there needs to be Oct 23 04:43
Techrights-secsome clients packaged for the more popular distros so that it can go upOct 23 04:43
Techrights-secin adoption.  It's not appropriate or reasonable to expect people to Oct 23 04:43
Techrights-secdeal with compiling.  It's also more energy efficient to handle thatOct 23 04:43
Techrights-seconce per distro unless there are substantial reasons to do otherwise.Oct 23 04:43
Techrights-secLet the computer do the work of tracking versions and updates and such.Oct 23 04:43
Techrights-secI haven't followed enough of what's happening to Debian lately.  Oct 23 04:43
Techrights-secIt's still a very important distro but has substained a lot of damage Oct 23 04:43
Techrights-secto both the project itself and its general reputation.  A goal of theOct 23 04:43
Techrights-secopponents has been to weaken it and in that they have made progress.Oct 23 04:43
Techrights-secBut speaking of monocultures, too many derivative distros are dependent on    Oct 23 04:43
Techrights-secDebian.  There area few growing from Arch though.  That's good.Oct 23 04:43
Techrights-secNotably the Debian -> Ubuntu -> Mint dependency is a liability.  Oct 23 04:43
Techrights-secHowever, it is such a large portion of the GNU/Linux market that thoseOct 23 04:43
Techrights-seccompanies which actually do provide packages provide them for APT on x86Oct 23 04:43
schestowitz-TR2I checked debian buster today; still nothing in it. Not sure about bullseye. At the back of my mind: google funding, vested in www monoculture(s).Oct 23 04:44
Techrights-secI think asking for Pacman from them at this stage would be premature,Oct 23 04:53
Techrights-secbut maybe soe progress can be made towards something more abstract suchOct 23 04:53
Techrights-secas source code access and letting people and projects roll their own.Oct 23 04:53
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schestowitz# is the site "Market Research Telecast" any good / legitimate?Oct 23 07:39
schestowitzIt's just AUTOMATED translations from German, typically linking to originals in German. Sometimes, for some topics, there's value to it, but very limited as the quality sucksOct 23 07:39
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Techrights-sec"EFF has always valued and appreciated Gilmores opinions, even when we disagree."Oct 23 12:37
Techrights-secI guess that's one kind of medication :/Oct 23 12:39
schestowitz-TR2https://www.eff.org/deeplinks/2021/10/john-gilmore-leaves-eff-board-becomes-board-member-emeritus Oct 23 12:39
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-www.eff.org | John Gilmore Leaves the EFF Board, Becomes Board Member Emeritus | Electronic Frontier FoundationOct 23 12:39
schestowitz-TR2better than being sent to therapists and forced to write an apologyOct 23 12:39
schestowitz-TR2Like Alan TuringOct 23 12:39
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schestowitz-TR2 When automated translations go VERY wrong. This headline says exactly the opposite of what happened. #prOct 23 15:42
schestowitz-TR2otonmail threw the activist under the bug by divulging addresses. https://marketresearchtelecast.com/protOct 23 15:42
-altlink_883/#boycottnovell-๐Ÿ“ฃ Cloudflare: marketresearchtelecast.com | ๐Ÿ™† Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://marketresearchtelecast.com/protOct 23 15:42
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-marketresearchtelecast.com | Market Research TelecastOct 23 15:43
schestowitz-TR2onmail-defends-ip-address-of-climate-activist/148697/Oct 23 15:43
Techrights-secackOct 23 15:43
Techrights-secprobably best to remove the site from the approved source and mark it as Oct 23 15:43
Techrights-secundesirableOct 23 15:43
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