●● IRC: #boycottnovell @ Techrights IRC Network: Tuesday, November 23, 2021 ●● ● Nov 23 [00:07] Techrights-sec maintenance finished [00:07] schestowitz-TR see email [00:13] *altlink_e12 has quit (connection closed) [00:13] *altlink_1b8 (~altlink_1b8@2f7u5j6f87p9g.irc) has joined #boycottnovell [00:16] *liberty_box (~liberty@62vhapicsw4ds.irc) has joined #boycottnovell [00:16] *rianne (~rianne@62vhapicsw4ds.irc) has joined #boycottnovell [00:23] schestowitz gemini stats show interest in the shithub series. I have lots more... [00:24] schestowitz I just need to figure out more ways to make Daily Links etc. more efficient to free up time for videos, articles, I'm already stretching the limits, but I know further improvements can be made [00:26] Techrights-sec Any ideas for improvements with the scripting? [00:26] schestowitz If the so-called 'Aye Pee' feeds could be automated, but they need close scrutiny and many come from GulagNoise, so it is not doable [00:27] Techrights-sec $ cat workflow.txt [00:27] Techrights-sec ../../Git/Links/links-check-spam-sites.pl $(date +"%F.html") && ../../Git/Links/links-check-camelcase.pl $(date +"%F [00:27] Techrights-sec .html") && ../../bin/merge-daily-links.sh && ../../bin/links-upload.sh && ../template.sh [00:28] Techrights-sec Fetchning a second list of links would be no problem but if the quality / [00:28] Techrights-sec signal-to-noise ratio is low then they should go in a second file and [00:28] Techrights-sec not the merged file. [00:29] schestowitz I thought about just giving up completely on some of those feeds, but few examine those matters, so it's risky to let lawyers and frauds dominate 100% of the coverage online [00:31] schestowitz-TR Also, they eply to me and you can see they're hurt [00:32] Techrights-sec Agreed, on both parts. It's toilsome but necessary to prevent ceding the [00:32] Techrights-sec domain 100% to frauds. [00:32] Techrights-sec Hurt is an unfortunate side effect but if they correct their bullshit, and [00:32] Techrights-sec lie less often, then it would not happen. Those are mostly pushing lies on [00:32] Techrights-sec the public, espeially the law firms' blogs I read on occasion. [00:32] Techrights-sec Speaking of blogs, there seem to be slightly more active blogs than last year. [00:33] schestowitz-TR my ONLY shift for this week is almost over now (1am) [00:37] Techrights-sec Congratulations. [00:37] Techrights-sec One topic that falls victim to time is incidents like Munich. As time passes, [00:37] Techrights-sec people forget and then they try to fill in the gaps with speculation. Sadly, [00:37] Techrights-sec that speculation is made up inaccurately by projecting the individual's own [00:37] Techrights-sec reasonably good values and ethics onto a group which is alien to both. [00:37] Techrights-sec So the underhanded tricks with the mayor and the insiders and the move of [00:37] Techrights-sec the headquarters are forgotten and smoothed over by wishful, but wrong, thinking [00:38] Techrights-sec The counter to that is to keep bringing up the old topics, but it has to be [00:38] Techrights-sec done in new contexts otherwise the microsofters gain a little by asserting [00:38] Techrights-sec that the data is "old" and therefore no longer applies, even if the current [00:38] Techrights-sec situation is much worse than befor. [00:47] Techrights-sec Back to why "cybersecurity" can't be taught at universities, most now lack a [00:47] Techrights-sec functional IT department. I have bemoaned the fact that most institutions now [00:47] Techrights-sec harbor microsoft resellers in place of what was once their IT deparment. But [00:47] Techrights-sec the vehicle for that was to outsource the skills by outsourcing the activities [00:47] Techrights-sec and services. When they had in-house teams they attracted, developed, and [00:47] Techrights-sec retained talent. Once they had outsourced enough people left. When enough [00:47] Techrights-sec skilled people leave, there comes a point where a threshold is crossed [00:47] Techrights-sec and those remaining skilled people don't have enough peers to enjoy or beneft [00:47] Techrights-sec from the work. So they, too, leave. It's a death spiral of sorts. It [00:47] Techrights-sec begins with outsourcing. So companies like Cisco provide outrageously expensive [00:47] Techrights-sec and poor quality VPns and such and instead of using WireGuard or OpenVPN, the [00:47] Techrights-sec talent leaves and are replaced by flunkies who can only play with junk. [00:47] Techrights-sec However, the choice of VPNs is itself a false dichotomy. It means that [00:47] Techrights-sec cruchy on the outside but soft on the inside style of network and service [00:47] Techrights-sec architecure has been adopted replacing the old 1980s zero-trust model. In [00:47] Techrights-sec the latter, the network (even the LAN) must be consider compromised to begin [00:47] Techrights-sec with and the services designed sufficiently robustly to cope with that. [00:47] schestowitz-TR happened where I worked [00:48] schestowitz-TR but I did the research, not "IT" [00:49] Techrights-sec Yes, the cost of that was you doing "IT"' job for them. They probably [00:49] Techrights-sec got partial credit for the positive result even if they fought it actively [00:49] Techrights-sec and passively to a certain extent. [00:50] schestowitz-TR tou end up isnatlling everything for yourself and received no suppoort, whuich I suppose yoy paid for [00:50] schestowitz-TR *you [00:52] Techrights-sec The world needs a non-M$ Kerberos VI to replace the damaged Kerberos V. [00:52] Techrights-sec And several other similar technologies, such as dedicated native clients. [00:52] Techrights-sec RUnning everything through javascript in a web brower *cough*electron*cough* [00:52] Techrights-sec is inefficient and unsafe. [00:52] Techrights-sec Yes, installing everything yourself and getting no support. Yet, they somehow [00:52] Techrights-sec get credit for it working. COnsiduer your company lucky that they don't also [00:52] Techrights-sec double-bill like some "IT" "service" companies do around here. ● Nov 23 [01:01] Techrights-sec One place the microsoft resellers threatened to withdraw their "support" [01:01] Techrights-sec I and another faculty member maneuvered them into doing that in such a way [01:01] Techrights-sec as they ended up being out of the way. They did not know how to counter that [01:01] Techrights-sec level of independence as they were used to obsequiousness, so it took them [01:01] Techrights-sec about 18 months to counter. Though the did occasionally find small, petty [01:01] Techrights-sec ways to intentionally interfere especially at busy times. [01:01] Techrights-sec What hurts the nation and the economy the worse is that the microsofter poseurs [01:01] Techrights-sec are considered "IT" in any way shape or form. M$ is not a technology, it [01:01] Techrights-sec is a form of political control, or even a cult, masqurading as a product line. [01:01] Techrights-sec Anyway, I'm rambling too much today. [01:56] psydruid I had implemented zero trust at a friend's office with separate LANs for servers, desktops and home environment and firewalls running and enabled on each system to protect them from one another [01:57] psydruid When I left for abroad they moved back to Windows but had constant trouble according to someone else I knew and talked to [01:57] psydruid In the end the business was closed down [01:58] schestowitz :-) [01:59] psydruid those people who peddle Microsoft "solutions" don't realise how much damage they are doing by replacing tech that works with something that obviously doesn't work ● Nov 23 [02:11] *DaemonFC has quit (connection closed) [02:11] *DaemonFC (~daemonfc@zvy9y8s293m5q.irc) has joined #boycottnovell ● Nov 23 [05:18] *DaemonFC has quit (Quit: Leaving) [05:35] *techrights_guest|54 (~b9dc6528@54n9xgft8g6u2.irc) has joined #boycottnovell [05:36] *techrights_guest|54 has quit (Quit: Connection closed) ● Nov 23 [08:07] Techrights-sec Windows kills also businesses. The M$ resellers prioritize Windows over the [08:07] Techrights-sec survival of the very institution they are ostensibly working in. They [08:07] Techrights-sec may be on the payroll of the institution they kill but nonetheless have [08:07] Techrights-sec allegiance only to M$. ● Nov 23 [12:19] *altlink_1b8 has quit (connection closed) [12:19] *altlink_94d (~altlink_94d@2f7u5j6f87p9g.irc) has joined #boycottnovell ● Nov 23 [14:33] *Despatche has quit (Quit: Read error: Connection reset by deer) ● Nov 23 [15:23] *tech_exorcist (~tech_exorcist@txkdaiuveepza.irc) has joined #boycottnovell ● Nov 23 [16:06] *psydroid2 (~psydroid@cqggrmwgu7gji.irc) has joined #boycottnovell [16:28] *Now talking on #boycottnovell [16:28] *Topic for #boycottnovell is: TechRights.org | Channel #boycottnovell for http://TechRights.org | Free Software Sentry watching and reporting maneuvers of those who oppose software freedom :: please also join channels #techrights and #boycottnovell-social [16:28] *Topic for #boycottnovell set by schestowitz!~schestowi@freenode-18vdut.5mai.fl0c.t29qgt.IP at Thu Jan 1 01:00:00 1970 ● Nov 23 [17:07] *liberty_box has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [17:07] *rianne has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [17:10] *rianne (~rianne@62vhapicsw4ds.irc) has joined #boycottnovell [17:11] *liberty_box (~liberty@62vhapicsw4ds.irc) has joined #boycottnovell [17:12] *DaemonFC (~daemonfc@389qztengum92.irc) has joined #boycottnovell ● Nov 23 [18:27] *liberty_box has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [18:27] *rianne has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) ● Nov 23 [19:01] *liberty_box (~liberty@62vhapicsw4ds.irc) has joined #boycottnovell [19:01] *rianne (~rianne@62vhapicsw4ds.irc) has joined #boycottnovell [19:22] *lightbringer has quit (Zombie connection timed out) [19:24] *lightbringer (mincer@freenode/user/lightbringer) has joined #boycottnovell [19:25] *DaemonFC has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [19:26] *tech_exorcist_ (~tech_exorcist@jubkat3igexrk.irc) has joined #boycottnovell [19:27] *tech_exorcist has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [19:36] *liberty_box has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [19:36] *rianne has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [19:54] *rianne (~rianne@62vhapicsw4ds.irc) has joined #boycottnovell [19:54] *liberty_box (~liberty@62vhapicsw4ds.irc) has joined #boycottnovell ● Nov 23 [20:08] *rianne has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [20:08] *liberty_box has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [20:33] *liberty_box (~liberty@62vhapicsw4ds.irc) has joined #boycottnovell [20:33] *rianne (~rianne@62vhapicsw4ds.irc) has joined #boycottnovell [20:36] *schestowitz (~schestowi@freenode/user/schestowitz) has joined #boycottnovell [20:44] schestowitz-TR If you wrote something before this session was rest, I did not see it as I was asleep [20:44] schestowitz-TR In interesting development, freenode 'reopened'... anony logics and our old channels are still registered there [20:44] schestowitz-TR so there are now two stale networks with a channell called techrights in them [20:44] schestowitz-TR aside from the main one [20:45] *Techrights-sec (~quassel@joseon-8ag.dca.k31cok.IP) has joined #boycottnovell [20:46] *asusbox (~rianne@joseon-8ag.dca.k31cok.IP) has joined #boycottnovell [20:48] *DaemonFC (~daemonfc@fujrd6ajavpue.irc) has joined #boycottnovell ● Nov 23 [21:05] *tech_exorcist_ has quit (Quit: internet connection experiments) [21:13] *tech_exorcist (~tech_exorcist@r7zq4q2ys63yk.irc) has joined #boycottnovell [21:47] *tech_exorcist has quit (Quit: see you tomorrow) [21:51] *liberty_box has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [21:52] *rianne has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [21:59] *rianne (~rianne@62vhapicsw4ds.irc) has joined #boycottnovell ● Nov 23 [22:00] *liberty_box (~liberty@62vhapicsw4ds.irc) has joined #boycottnovell [22:47] *rianne has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [22:47] *liberty_box has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) ● Nov 23 [23:01] *DaemonFC has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [23:03] *DaemonFC (~daemonfc@cj2i9km3rygqc.irc) has joined #boycottnovell [23:21] *psydruid has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [23:23] *psydruid (~psydruid@jevhxkzmtrbww.irc) has joined #boycottnovell [23:55] *rianne (~rianne@62vhapicsw4ds.irc) has joined #boycottnovell [23:55] *liberty_box (~liberty@62vhapicsw4ds.irc) has joined #boycottnovell