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Techrights-sec Techrights-sec schestowitz-TR fixed the permissions on /var/log/apache2/ Sep 24 00:27 it is now in the group adm Sep 24 00:27 thanks, i am working on the po stuff atm Sep 24 00:27 *epo Sep 24 00:27 systemd's goal is non-technical: the decommodification of the distros Sep 24 00:39 a la The Halloween Documents but with IBM this time around rather than only M$Sep 24 00:39 by the way, it might be a good idea to revisit the Halloween Documents next Sep 24 00:39 month. It being October plus what's going on with systemd combine to make Sep 24 00:39 a strong reason. Sep 24 00:39 I'm noticing that even though robots.txt has "Crawl-delay: 10" the "binbot" Sep 24 00:39 and a few others seem to be really bothering tm-new. I have not checked to Sep 24 00:39 see if they are constantly re-downloading the same pages again and again Sep 24 00:39 but at first glance the rate at which they are harvesting implies that. Sep 24 00:39 Should we turn on mod_ratelimit for the bot's addresses? Sep 24 00:39 Or use the option of tc with queuing for the bot's addresses? Sep 24 00:39 bear with me while i finish the epo staff, avoiding multitasking.. Sep 24 00:56 *stuff Sep 24 00:56 ok, draft ready Sep 24 00:56 catching up with ytalk Sep 24 00:56 wanna spot-check? Sep 24 00:56 systemd is not the only thing to cause such issues, but it's a large example of it Sep 24 00:56 I can think of seveal more, inc. some from Canonical Sep 24 00:56 now with LP at Microsoft and WSL marketing with new slant (systemd) we can point to the Hal Docs Sep 24 00:56 and show what that means Sep 24 00:56 probably a big task Sep 24 00:56 regarding bots, I've not chjecked logs, except that time I mentioned numbers 1-2 weeks ago Sep 24 00:56 just grepped for shtml and rss/xml Sep 24 00:56 checking Sep 24 00:57 The opening sentence in the summary is confusing. Sep 24 00:57 "The Central Staff Committee of the European Patent Office (EPO)" could be the Sep 24 00:57 start and then leave the "EPO" acronym in the rest. Sep 24 00:57 The second paragraph probably alludes to harassment, bullying, or other illegal Sep 24 00:57 behavior. It would be good to be more specific. "toxic male" is not Sep 24 00:57 a legally actionable fault AFAIK unless it involves an illegal behavior Sep 24 00:57 right, i will clarfy Sep 24 00:58 she used a different term, which i quote Sep 24 00:58 staff remembers what she said Sep 24 00:58 even many years later Sep 24 00:58 And a word or two about the significance of the two HTML parts would help: Sep 24 00:58 why should the public be interested? Sep 24 00:58 handing over at work atm (1am) Sep 24 01:00 i got 1.5 hours left till cutoff (bulletin) Sep 24 01:00 will reword a bit Sep 24 01:00 I assumer you saw no typos/layout issues Sep 24 01:00 it was my first pass Sep 24 01:00 I was looking for the topic and theme Sep 24 01:00 catching typos as welkl helps Sep 24 01:01 it's the hioghest priority in blogs, then in irc bot, then informal irc chat Sep 24 01:01 as people nitpick on such stuff Sep 24 01:01 to change the subject Sep 24 01:01 and resort to ad hom Sep 24 01:01 ack Sep 24 01:05 Speaking of bots again, here are some data that bingbot is running amok: Sep 24 01:05 % awk '/bingbot/ &&$7~/^\/n\// {a[$7]++} END { for (u in a) {if(a[u]>0){print a[u], u;} } }' /var/log/apache2/tuxmachines.org.access.log | sort -rn Sep 24 01:05 (the >0 can be tuned to a higher threshold) Sep 24 01:05 thanks, will leave this to you Sep 24 01:05 am doing handover Sep 24 01:05 will amend epo article after that Sep 24 01:05 then do a meme Sep 24 01:05 btw, did you watch the video on excesss deaths? Sep 24 01:05 In other ways, one can see that those are all GET requests and not HEAD or Sep 24 01:06 if-modified-since requests Sep 24 01:06 No, I usually can't get to the videos lately. Sep 24 01:06 I do check the accompanying text though. Sep 24 01:06 tl;dr: across europe exxcess deaths soar this past summer Sep 24 01:08 and nobody is explaining why Sep 24 01:08 Ok, I'll think about tc or mod_ratelimit and which is less difficult in the Sep 24 01:08 long run. Sep 24 01:08 Yes. There are many. It gets covered over. Sep 24 01:08 https://www.weforum.org/agenda/2022/09/covid-19-coronavirus-pandemic-omicron-boosters-20-september/ Sep 24 01:17 https://www.destatis.de/EN/Themes/Cross-Section/Corona/Society/population_death.html Sep 24 01:18 -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-www.weforum.org | COVID-19: What you need to know about the pandemic this week | World Economic Forum Sep 24 01:18 https://www.weforum.org/agenda/2022/09/covid-19-coronavirus-pandemic-omicron-boosters-20-september/ Sep 24 01:18 https://www.destatis.de/EN/Themes/Cross-Section/Corona/Society/population_death.html Sep 24 01:18 -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-www.destatis.de | Number of deaths and excess mortality - German Federal Statistical Office Sep 24 01:18 my mom got 4 jabs, got infected 3 times AFTER the third Sep 24 01:20 the infections were obv. Sep 24 01:20 you sort of know when you feel ill Sep 24 01:20 the body won't tell you if it defeats the virus upon entry Sep 24 01:20 I told her it has long-term damage Sep 24 01:20 but she isn't listening Sep 24 01:20 too drunk of gov. assurances Sep 24 01:20 sshe thinks it's just another flu Sep 24 01:20 Yes it apparently causes long term damage each time. Sep 24 01:22 *Noisytoot has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) Sep 24 01:24 was it you weho sent me the link from weforum or another forum re longterm mental health damage? Sep 24 01:25 i forgot the domain Sep 24 01:25 men toioned it in irc twice Sep 24 01:25 after you had sent it Sep 24 01:25 spoke to mate over phone 15+ mins hours ago Sep 24 01:25 he is coming over here tomorrow Sep 24 01:25 referee for rianne's application Sep 24 01:25 he is the one who sent me this video Sep 24 01:25 riane turns out to have watched his videos before Sep 24 01:25 he's really causing a panic here in the regime Sep 24 01:25 and the billBC had to do "rebuttals" Sep 24 01:25 because he shows what the gov. is tryingf to dent Sep 24 01:25 as I myself showed Sep 24 01:25 rianne mentioned somem guy to me showing the same as me Sep 24 01:25 but I did not know who he was Sep 24 01:25 had not seen it till today Sep 24 01:25 when mike mentioned him and sent me the link Sep 24 01:25 the data does not lie _much_ Sep 24 01:25 *Noisytoot (~noisytoot@tkbibjhmbkvb8.irc) has joined #boycottnovell Sep 24 01:26 Probably Sep 24 01:28 Statistics do not lie, only mislead. :/ Sep 24 01:28 A "recent" problem is that it is time-effective for clowns to mash the data Sep 24 01:28 through model after model, regardless of relevance, until they get the output Sep 24 01:28 they wanted rather than picking the relevant model and reading what it tells Sep 24 01:28 them about the data. Sep 24 01:28 i pointed out many counterproints to mike Sep 24 01:28 inc. how the excees is calculated Sep 24 01:28 past 5 yearssd Sep 24 01:28 so in 2022 we compare 2 covid years to 2 non-covid Sep 24 01:28 and then average those Sep 24 01:28 so you need the raw, absolute numbers Sep 24 01:28 and I downloaded, then uploaded the reports for every year since about 15 years ago Sep 24 01:28 to my site Sep 24 01:28 and showed the relevant graphis Sep 24 01:28 if there is push-back asna sense the public was misled Sep 24 01:28 I will have all the data//.info at hand Sep 24 01:28 A rolling base point will make the curve look smaller as we progress into the Sep 24 01:29 third year of this pandemic. Sep 24 01:29 Pushback is not really possible because so many are pacified via social control Sep 24 01:29 media and that filters what they are 1) allowed to write, and 2) what they Sep 24 01:29 are allowed to read. Sep 24 01:29 I think using tc will allow the most flexibility, but it will take some time Sep 24 01:29 to plan it out properly. Sep 24 01:29 I noticed thatt gulagtube sot of flagged his videos Sep 24 01:31 adding links below it Sep 24 01:31 to the "official" message Sep 24 01:31 I guess they found no valid reason to outright ban him Sep 24 01:31 like oither videos I saw of doctors who dissent Sep 24 01:31 he clearly pisses off the powers that be Sep 24 01:31 pbased on what rianne saw of him in billbc and gulagtube Sep 24 01:31 of course he did not mentioon the v word even once in his video Sep 24 01:31 prior to being able to watch his video Sep 24 01:34 I was presented with TWO long ads Sep 24 01:34 the first one I was not ablke to even skip Sep 24 01:34 so I hit mute and looked away Sep 24 01:34 then come the second one Sep 24 01:34 I was only forced to watch firsdt 5 seconds Sep 24 01:34 then had to manually intervene Sep 24 01:34 lots of work just to watch some video, with some "flagging" below it Sep 24 01:34 youtube is social control Sep 24 01:34 and it started by flagging russian and chinese channels Sep 24 01:34 later it kjust BANNED those channels Sep 24 01:34 'cox war' Sep 24 01:34 *xcoz Sep 24 01:34 now it does the same to british doctors Sep 24 01:34 "coz" safety" Sep 24 01:34 what he says is not unreasonable Sep 24 01:34 but it upsets some firms Sep 24 01:34 while bill gates PAYS YouTube Sep 24 01:34 for many ads Sep 24 01:34 They could make up an excuse but anyone who is off-message gets flagged or Sep 24 01:35 banned. Sep 24 01:35 YouTube is about unusable anyway. I checked for the first time in months and Sep 24 01:35 there are 10x ads most of which are unskippable and then the comments are Sep 24 01:35 in some random, non-chronological sequence. Complete waste of time and I amd Sep 24 01:35 disappointed in any vloggers still feeding that platform. Sep 24 01:35 There is also the 'endless' scrolling or whatever it is called, which makes Sep 24 01:35 the unskippable videos worse because you cannot listen while skimming comments Sep 24 01:35 any more. Sep 24 01:35 % awk '/bingbot/ &&$7~/^\/n\// {a[$1]++} END { for (u in a) {print u; } }' /var/log/apache2/tuxmachines.org.access.log | sort -rn -k1,1rn -k2,2rn -k3,3rn - Sep 24 01:35 k4,4rn -t . Sep 24 01:35 what i like about all this is, Sep 24 01:41 1) it's not going away or aging. we'll keep getting data, one way of another Sep 24 01:41 2) it shows web suppression/censorship in action Sep 24 01:41 (gulag did not make it pleasant to acess this video) Sep 24 01:41 3) i said to rianne tonight, owing to working from home we likely dodged a bullet Sep 24 01:41 either the virus or another aspects Sep 24 01:41 my health has been fine throughout and we built some savings Sep 24 01:41 also lowered bills Sep 24 01:41 by next summer she might pursue the passport (next step) Sep 24 01:41 though it's not clear how much she would use it Sep 24 01:41 i last flew to germany (2018) Sep 24 01:41 #2 is very important but due to ongoing campaigns, including strawman whackdoodle crazies and kooks, it is hard to do Sep 24 01:41 Best to have the passport on hand anyway Sep 24 01:41 after naturalisation Sep 24 01:42 in 2010 flights were still ok compared to now Sep 24 01:46 where they demand your phone Sep 24 01:46 and I'm told now they want you to test, quarantine etc. Sep 24 01:46 and then follow some strict rules on board Sep 24 01:46 if you catch this one virus, you cannot fly back Sep 24 01:46 and no refund for the missed flight Sep 24 01:46 so why the fork would I even think of flying? Sep 24 01:46 prices also went up by a LOT Sep 24 01:46 i sometimes have unpleasant dreams where I cannot distance myself from people Sep 24 01:46 and 3 years down the drain Sep 24 01:46 It's far worse than that, if I read correctly. There are worse conditions Sep 24 01:51 than ever before both onboard and in the airport. That goes double for Sep 24 01:51 the mistreatment of customers. Sep 24 01:51 kjids have a warped sense of reality Sep 24 01:58 and very selective memories Sep 24 01:58 but from what I remember in the 80s (domestic) and early 90s (portgula, spain) Sep 24 01:58 the flights weere pleasant and airports were just like bus stations with passports and shops (duty free) Sep 24 01:58 the seats on the plane were good Sep 24 01:58 meals were integral part of the journey Sep 24 01:58 prices were still high (they should be; it discourages BS 'travel') Sep 24 01:58 and service was like customer service Sep 24 01:58 not kids' gloves Sep 24 01:58 in the pedo sense, everyone a suspect Sep 24 01:58 tat was after lockerbee and other attacks had shown risk Sep 24 01:58 but reaction to them was not panic and oppression Sep 24 01:58 9/11 was one of several escalations Sep 24 01:58 even "good" airports like copehagen suck Sep 24 01:58 I never enjoyed airports Sep 24 01:58 and they are as time-inefficient as the planes themselves Sep 24 01:58 you often spend x2 times as much in and traveling to/from airports Sep 24 01:58 than you spend onboard Sep 24 01:58 what a shitty roi Sep 24 01:58 i say i';d rather sit on a sofa at home Sep 24 01:58 then be on a plane or in airport (or communing) Sep 24 01:58 so there has to be very compelling reason to travel Sep 24 01:58 like funeral Sep 24 01:58 even to funerals I rarely fly Sep 24 01:58 seems like a luxiry Sep 24 01:58 luxury Sep 24 01:59 in the days of cross-atlantic boat travel you could not travel fast enough to attend funerals Sep 24 01:59 you used telegram or similar Sep 24 01:59 The bot attacks from: Sep 24 02:00 207.46.0.0/16, 157.60.0.0/16, 157.56.0.0/14, 157.54.0.0/15, 40.96.0.0/12, 40.80.0.0/12, 40.76.0.0/14, 40.74.0.0/15, 40.125.0.0/17, 40.124.0.0/16, 40.120.0.0 Sep 24 02:00 They have more contact hours per day with CCP's TikTok than they do with Sep 24 02:00 friends or family combined. Thus although they may speak English just fine Sep 24 02:00 they are not culturally British. That distorts their worldview further. Sep 24 02:00 Yes, in the 1980s and the 1990s, passengers were treated as valued customers Sep 24 02:00 instead of as paroled criminals. The prices are high, but not high enough Sep 24 02:00 to impair the real polluters: business travel. Sep 24 02:00 https://www.theguardian.com/business/2020/nov/17/people-cause-global-aviation-emissions-study-covid-19 Sep 24 02:00 -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-www.theguardian.com | 1% of people cause half of global aviation emissions – study | Airline industry | The Guardian Sep 24 02:00 https://stats.oecd.org/Index.aspx?DataSetCode=AIRTRANS_CO2 Sep 24 02:00 On the continent, in most situations, rail travel is far more time-efficient Sep 24 02:00 and less risky for the health, not to mention lower impact for emissions Sep 24 02:00 -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-stats.oecd.org | Air Transport CO2 Emissions Sep 24 02:00 the guardian failed to note it takes bribes from the 1 (not 1%) that pollutes the most ^_^ Sep 24 02:01 true, they omit mentioning such conflicts of interest -- always Sep 24 02:02 the boat we took to ireland was swedish Sep 24 02:05 stina line Sep 24 02:05 *stena Sep 24 02:05 not sure how well they do now Sep 24 02:05 but the time getting TO the boat was long too Sep 24 02:05 we took the coach, then had to cross a tunnel by taxi Sep 24 02:05 smae in northern ireland Sep 24 02:05 at least the time on the boat itself was almost ok Sep 24 02:05 ack Sep 24 02:05 but still long waiting times Sep 24 02:05 woul;d not do that again soon Sep 24 02:05 we just need a good catapult with trampolines Sep 24 02:05 "incoming!" Sep 24 02:05 or beam me up scotty (teleport) Sep 24 02:05 humans were never good at covering long distances Sep 24 02:19 no wheels Sep 24 02:19 and no wings Sep 24 02:19 even a lack of hydrodynamics Sep 24 02:19 we're a tree-dwelling animal that lost its ability to even clib on tress Sep 24 02:19 climb Sep 24 02:19 Walking is very energy efficient, even when carrying a load. Sep 24 02:28 per mile, underwater movement is efficient Sep 24 02:30 birds are light Sep 24 02:30 soi gliding is also efficent Sep 24 02:30 humans lack inertia Sep 24 02:30 we compensate by making "vehicles" Sep 24 02:30 https://www.themarginalian.org/2011/12/21/steve-jobs-bicycle-for-the-mind-1990/ Sep 24 02:34 -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-www.themarginalian.org | Steve Jobs on Why Computers Are Like a Bicycle for the Mind (1990) – The Marginalian Sep 24 02:34 Sort of the opposite of what computers (software) has become in recent years Sep 24 02:34 "... its the equivalent of a bicycle for our minds." Sep 24 02:34 social/techpol ~850k Sep 24 04:07 same for techrights Sep 24 04:07 so it was split by topic Sep 24 04:07 going to sleep in a bit Sep 24 04:07 lasange sheets in the fridge (after months in freezer) Sep 24 04:07 *DaemonFC has quit (Quit: Leaving) Sep 24 08:17 itwire offline Sep 24 09:03 still azure? Sep 24 09:03 checking Sep 24 09:04 maybe not any more: Sep 24 09:04 route: 101.0.65.0/24 Sep 24 09:04 origin: AS55803 Sep 24 09:04 descr: DIGITAL PACIFIC PTY LTD Sep 24 09:04 It's online at the moment. Sep 24 09:04 But nothing of note lately. Sep 24 09:04 Just some politics and a bit of fluff Sep 24 09:04 rianne cooking a lasagne now Sep 24 09:04 smells nice Sep 24 09:04 it's ready Sep 24 09:28 we managed to use ALL the sheets (pasta) and almost all the cheese Sep 24 09:28 made space in the freezer for almost 15 packs of humous we found discounted Sep 24 09:28 i don't have enough topics to cover, i'll do daily links shortl Sep 24 09:28 :) Sep 24 09:28 Hmm. I had just forgotten a good topic based on recent news, aside from Sep 24 09:28 a revisit of the Halloween Document in the context of current events. Sep 24 09:28 happens to me a lot Sep 24 09:29 i need to write down more Sep 24 09:29 you sometimes wrongly assume you'd remember later Sep 24 09:29 and then "it's not so important anyway" Sep 24 09:29 but time becomes available Sep 24 09:29 News deserts? Sep 24 09:30 PeppermintOS Devuan variant? Sep 24 09:30 yeah, but what about it? Sep 24 09:30 General decommodification of protocols, i.e. mail protocols, and standards, Sep 24 09:31 i.e. HTTP Sep 24 09:31 HTTP/3 looks like it can't be run by normal programmers because it moves so Sep 24 09:31 much of what used to be covered by TCP up higher into the stack. As a side Sep 24 09:31 effect it blocks TCP-based proxies such as VPNs and specifically the Tor network Sep 24 09:31 i don't know SPDY well enough except the basics Sep 24 09:33 and I am guessing many others, except stenberg who must grasp it, cannot know either Sep 24 09:33 we studied networking in a course 20+ years ago, inc. ipv6 Sep 24 09:33 all this time later ipv4 is STILL predominant Sep 24 09:33 and the promise of QC has not quite materialised Sep 24 09:33 It's not SPDY Sep 24 09:34 Exactly. The pool of people capable of managing it shrinks to what one Sep 24 09:34 can count on one hand. In the old days, with HTTP over TCP, writing a web Sep 24 09:34 server was basically considered the "Hello, World" of network service programming. Sep 24 09:34 IPv6 had lofty goals but was killed by over-engineering and complexity. Sep 24 09:34 Even Henning Brauer and his colleagues had headaches from it. Sep 24 09:34 yes, that's the correct term Sep 24 09:37 we see it outside the network stack too Sep 24 09:37 P/Ls Sep 24 09:37 UNIXes Sep 24 09:37 CSS Sep 24 09:37 you kill things by adding too much complexity Sep 24 09:37 soon: linus Sep 24 09:37 *linus Sep 24 09:37 *linux Sep 24 09:37 now you need more skills Sep 24 09:37 not fewer Sep 24 09:37 and they tell us that plain-text email is the "hard" part Sep 24 09:37 con colivas wrote about it Sep 24 09:37 and he was not visible this year Sep 24 09:37 with human disease, which he studies as a physicians, the stuff reomains more or less the same Sep 24 09:37 for 90%+ of the conditions Sep 24 09:37 By "helping" like helping restricted boot avoid scrutiny of the courts. Sep 24 09:38 I've been getting an increasing amount of javascript-laden web documents Sep 24 09:38 posing as e-mail, without an accompanying plaintext summary. So far those Sep 24 09:38 can be deleted without concern but I wonder for how much longer as Alphabet Sep 24 09:38 and M$ grab the last of e-mail. Sep 24 09:38 The work on restricted boot 1) helped M$avoid the courts over such ongoing Sep 24 09:39 anti-competitive abuse of its OEM monopoly, 2) helped M$ gain control over Sep 24 09:39 the distros through Canonical using M$key and not a general GNU/Linux keu Sep 24 09:39 or even a Ubuntu / Canonical key. Sep 24 09:39 i think this lasgagne is 10-20 servings Sep 24 10:11 lentils instead of meat Sep 24 10:11 ack Sep 24 10:11 i am thinking how to fix the workflos and speed up publication Sep 24 10:22 one approach is Sep 24 10:22 make a share space for topics to cover in video Sep 24 10:22 i find videos very helpful as initial outlet that then motivates to writes textual summary Sep 24 10:22 but videos are better done in bulk Sep 24 10:22 not one view with many topics in it Sep 24 10:22 but pertinent bits, even short Sep 24 10:22 yuou made about 3 topic suggestions Sep 24 10:22 with links Sep 24 10:22 in 2021 I managed to do about 3 videos a day Sep 24 10:22 something then got in the way and I lost time, i think due to adding more rss feeds Sep 24 10:22 One file per topic, to avoid locking problems? Or set up some shared editor? Sep 24 10:26 IIRC you prefer to avoid Emacs even though it supports collaborative editing. Sep 24 10:26 ytalk is like collaborative editing already Sep 24 10:27 just need a way to mark topic to cover, even in 2 minutesd Sep 24 10:27 like 3-minute rebuttal to the latest security FUD Sep 24 10:27 i didn't cover any of the recent ones at all Sep 24 10:27 re bombay, i remember this from my childhood Sep 24 10:30 funny how garret insisted strongly on "dr" Sep 24 10:30 usually a sign of insecurity when one insists on it Sep 24 10:30 and "drpizza" gives toom for jokes Sep 24 10:30 *room Sep 24 10:30 http://techrights.org/irc-archives/irc-log-techrights-230922.html#tSep%2023%2008:33:15 Sep 24 10:30 -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-techrights.org | IRC: #techrights @ Techrights IRC Network: Friday, September 23, 2022 Sep 24 10:30 RSS / Atom feeds are very time-consuming to process, even though they are orders Sep 24 10:31 of magnitude faster to work with than raw HTTP/HTTPS. First there is the matter Sep 24 10:31 of topics covered within any given feed, that's fine, it's their feed. But it Sep 24 10:31 does take time to triage posts. Then once a post is triaged, it must be skimmed Sep 24 10:31 and the structure of each author and sometimes each post of each author Sep 24 10:31 has a different flow or structure making it impossible to have a shortcut Sep 24 10:31 method to skimming each. Sep 24 10:31 but with a very short cache Sep 24 10:32 Another topic would be investigating or at least raising the question of Sep 24 10:33 the non-technical control over the technical aspects (or lack thereof) for the Sep 24 10:33 Rust project via the CoC and other hobbles. Sep 24 10:33 you mentioned mjg, was that related? Sep 24 10:34 those topics are better off: Sep 24 10:40 a) not touches firectly or Sep 24 10:40 b) mentioned in passing inside a video Sep 24 10:40 i think i have: protocol/mail/spdy Sep 24 10:40 coc Sep 24 10:40 youtueb censorship (i hope you saw the video by now; it's not long; second half is about google censoring him) Sep 24 10:40 like i said, i don't keep a list but should Sep 24 10:40 as it's fast to reecord and process '\in bulk' Sep 24 10:40 and estblishign a solid pipeline would be a good investment Sep 24 10:40 TR was barely active this past week; i barely "got around to it", i think due to irc occupying hours of attention Sep 24 10:40 not spdy the problem is now the proposed http/3 Sep 24 10:40 webp pisss me off too Sep 24 10:42 and they want to add yet more of these formats to the www Sep 24 10:42 they prolifirate Sep 24 10:42 oldeer client balk/choke Sep 24 10:42 *clients Sep 24 10:42 some cannot be updated, e.g. "smart" TVs Sep 24 10:42 Not keeping a list seems like a problem though. Sep 24 10:54 IRC as DoS Sep 24 10:54 *DaemonFC (~daemonfc@58nejqa2kp9h2.irc) has joined #boycottnovell Sep 24 11:09 I'm wondering if there is even a raison d'être for dedicated televisions any Sep 24 11:23 more. Increasingly people get their programming over TCP/IP so Kodi + a Sep 24 11:23 nicer but less expensive display would be less work, less cost, and more secure Sep 24 11:23 and more capable / flexible. Sep 24 11:23 What is the software patent encumberance for webp? https://github.com/ImageMagick/webp/blob/main/PATENTS Sep 24 11:23 -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-webp/PATENTS at main · ImageMagick/webp · GitHub Sep 24 11:23 shit. just been oln the phone 20 mins Sep 24 11:24 after i had received a distressed meil Sep 24 11:24 froma prof frine Sep 24 11:24 he got scammed by crypto cranks Sep 24 11:24 lost$50k Sep 24 11:24 brb, catcing up Sep 24 11:24 i see many people scammed, they are av en afriaif/shy to speak about them Sep 24 11:24 feeling stupid Sep 24 11:24 and the scam is still online Sep 24 11:24 now sure about webp patents Sep 24 11:24 but maybe gulag has some but licensed others' Sep 24 11:24 to make it "safe" Sep 24 11:24 gulag is NOT helping with swpats Sep 24 11:24 it helps uspto 'organise' the monopolies Sep 24 11:24 same in EPO Sep 24 11:25 *not sure Sep 24 11:25 :( Sep 24 11:26 cryptocurrency scammers? Sep 24 11:26 That's a lot of money to lose Sep 24 11:26 ack Sep 24 11:26 cryptocurrency is basically a scam to begin with.  The experiment ended in 2009 Sep 24 11:26 when " Satoshi Nakamoto " dumped the experiment in the trash and shysters Sep 24 11:26 picked through the trash for his code, reminiscent of Bill digging through Sep 24 11:26 the trash for BASIC code.  The shysters then have run with what they found Sep 24 11:26 in Nakamoto's trash. Sep 24 11:26 Google cannot be trusted much and is increasing the harm of sw patents over time Sep 24 11:26 graveley the "$200,000,000 man" (he tells girls Sep 24 11:29 who lives with dad and barely has$200,000 in the bank Sep 24 11:29 more on that next year... there's court stuff related to this Sep 24 11:29 they want him to prove he lost the job Sep 24 11:29 "plastic" society Sep 24 11:29 lies as the norm Sep 24 11:29 with kirk wiebe said Sep 24 11:29 *what Sep 24 11:30 has 200 milliopn, takes MORTGAGE for a home Sep 24 11:30 lives with dad and girlfriend, hopping between the two Sep 24 11:30 serial plgiarist and drug dealer Sep 24 11:30 microsoft: fancy beinga MANAGER? Sep 24 11:30 ack Sep 24 11:30 Another topic is that the pervasive presence of M$products inside various Sep 24 11:30 national borders has put whole countries into severe crises regarding Sep 24 11:30 cybersecurity. For most, the situatin is intractable. The presence of M$ Sep 24 11:30 products is a problem in and of itself but in the big picture only a symptom Sep 24 11:30 of staffing problems and general managerial incompetence + malice. Sep 24 11:30 *starstreak has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) Sep 24 11:30 the problem is bigger than microsoft Sep 24 11:34 but microsoft is a big part of it Sep 24 11:34 Sep 24 11:34 And lack of actual educational opportunities in applied computer science Sep 24 11:34 *at a national level*.  Yes, in that context, m$is only a tool. But that Sep 24 11:34 does not absolve their complicity in dragging down whole countries and Sep 24 11:34 even whole economies. Sep 24 11:34 Windoze kills. Sep 24 11:34 my head is too foggy satm to do 3 videos, i will focus fiorst in cleaning the feeds Sep 24 11:35 then see if it clears up a bit Sep 24 11:35 I lso exzpect a guest later Sep 24 11:35 (he too fell for borderline scams... all that "gold " shit...in places he cannot see like spain) Sep 24 11:35 it predates the shitcoins Sep 24 11:35 men don't like to acknowledge mistake Sep 24 11:35 it damages the image and 'masculinity' Sep 24 11:35 so it can drag them deep into isolation and denial Sep 24 11:35 Excercise usually helps more than sitting in front of a screen. Sep 24 11:36 Even just 20 minutes at rate. Sep 24 11:36 :( Sep 24 11:36 good idea, one productive way to take a break Sep 24 11:37 not down, just mind not focused enough Sep 24 11:37 posting links is drone-like at times Sep 24 11:37 so lets the mind settle Sep 24 11:37 esp. when working 18 hours a day Sep 24 11:37 It gives time to think and prioritize, too Sep 24 11:38 Yet it is still "sitting in front of a screen" Sep 24 11:38 If one needs a break from sitting in front of a screen then one must Sep 24 11:38 do something else than continuing to sit in front of a screen for the break Sep 24 11:38 to actually count Sep 24 11:38 *u-amarsh04 has quit (Quit: Konversation terminated!) Sep 24 11:38 *u-amarsh04 has quit (Quit: Konversation terminated!) Sep 24 11:38 maybe I will take a hike around the stadium Sep 24 11:39 there are some new statues there I've not seen yet, it's nearby Sep 24 11:39 Walking is usually exceptionally good for the body. Sep 24 11:39 *u-amarsh04 (~amarsh04@freenode-rmogvn.g0d7.dtdf.mc4289.IP) has joined #boycottnovell Sep 24 11:46 *u-amarsh04 (~amarsh04@22agg6qj8dxhg.irc) has joined #boycottnovell Sep 24 11:46 *psydroid2 (~psydroid@memzbmehf99re.irc) has joined #boycottnovell Sep 24 12:37 back also Sep 24 12:43 passed by the official man city stopre Sep 24 12:43 a bit like a museaum on the way while doing the walk/jog Sep 24 12:43 will do that again in the future Sep 24 12:43 saw many tourists Sep 24 12:43 :) Sep 24 12:43 Instructions or directions? Sep 24 12:43 some asked me for instructions Sep 24 12:43 directions rather Sep 24 12:43 anyway, it helped reset the mind Sep 24 12:44 except when rianne started talkin about the friend again Sep 24 12:44 you know, i figured it's similar to covid-19 Sep 24 12:57 nobody wants to talk about facts anymore Sep 24 12:57 that would be "endangering" Sep 24 12:57 even if your complaint is that we don't do enough to protect people Sep 24 12:57 people aren't meant to talk but let "officials" do the talking for them Sep 24 12:57 in the uk (some other countries too; france for sure) we cannot talk about the issue Sep 24 12:57 because of "investment" Sep 24 12:57 the stadium I just went to is sportwashing exercise of uae Sep 24 12:57 trying to open up prospects as airline/travel powerhouse Sep 24 12:57 in case the oil empire sinks, which is inevitable sooner or later Sep 24 12:57 we reap some benefit off the investment, but at what long-term cost? Sep 24 12:57 it's similar to companies that take vc money Sep 24 12:57 or founders Sep 24 12:58 they lose the ability to lead and to judge Sep 24 12:58 russia uses national energy resources for political leverga Sep 24 12:58 in the same way gulf states do Sep 24 12:58 putin did this in belarus, not does this in eu and beyond Sep 24 12:58 cheap energy? there are conditions Sep 24 12:58 Yes and Germany was warned for decades and, strangely, the US backed off on Sep 24 13:01 sanctions, allowing Nordstream2 to go ahead in spite of pretty much everyone Sep 24 13:01 seeing where it would lead to. I wonder how much overlap there is between Sep 24 13:01 the group of German politicians that pushed for the Nordstream2 and those Sep 24 13:01 that ensure that only M$ products are deployed in federal activities. Sep 24 13:01 schroder? Sep 24 13:06 It was over the last 5 or so years. Sep 24 13:07 yes, but  gazprom board scandsals is not outdated Sep 24 13:07 The warnings were for decades before that too, but as things started coming to Sep 24 13:08 a head in recent years, the warnings had to increase in both frequency and Sep 24 13:09 loudness.  Germany ignored all the "risks" Sep 24 13:09 Thinking about the long term attack against e-mail as a commodity service, Sep 24 13:11 most, nearly all, software development is coordinated using e-mail.  Eliminating Sep 24 13:11 that will create chokepoints and crash efficients to a promille of what it is Sep 24 13:11 now. Sep 24 13:11 *DaemonFC has quit (Quit: Leaving) Sep 24 13:12 Yes, proprietarty silos exist but they cannot spontaneously interact with other Sep 24 13:13 silos, the are not (technically) reliable nor secure/private, and have Sep 24 13:13 *very* inefficient proprietary interfaces restricted to very specific platforms. Sep 24 13:13 in messaging, protocols exist or existed too Sep 24 13:14 now there are many that are islands and proprietary Sep 24 13:14 i still use the landline a lot Sep 24 13:14 so-caled 'IT' proficiency makes sure workarounds exist and are used Sep 24 13:15 but maybe not with "the enterprise" Sep 24 13:15 so what's needed it better education Sep 24 13:15 hacker culture Sep 24 13:15 and stuff such as IRC Sep 24 13:15 IRC != libera Sep 24 13:15 libera has its own objectives, almost same staff as OFTC Sep 24 13:15 or whatever the acronym was Sep 24 13:15 'IT' has become a euphemism for an embedded M$Sales team Sep 24 13:15 FSF should not touch Libera with a barge pole Sep 24 13:15 too late now, i cationed rms about it and quoted his reply Sep 24 13:16 same re billg in sept. 2019 Sep 24 13:16 Not too late, but certainly much less convenient than doing it right the first Sep 24 13:16 time. Sep 24 13:16 fsf and gnu are now renting off the "intel agencies" of companies that seek to steal from the commons the way i see it, or just steal the commons Sep 24 13:17 they did a token congrats to zoe when she was annnounced Sep 24 13:17 a network-wide message was sent Sep 24 13:17 but nothing pro-rms Sep 24 13:17 ack Sep 24 13:19 i've not messaged him in month as meaningful exchanges with him are less probable Sep 24 13:21 he is babysat by someone/s Sep 24 13:21 it's obscene that gnu/linux continues to grow Sep 24 13:21 this coming tue turning 39 Sep 24 13:21 but the people who made it happen are stored inside a cupboard Sep 24 13:21 Yes, FSF could prepare a proper Freedom campaign during the coming year, Sep 24 13:22 with contingency plans for taking on Vista12 should the opportunity arise. Sep 24 13:22 like the absoloute bat*** insane campaign of asking microsoft for windows source code Sep 24 13:24 ans shipping them a HDD for it? Sep 24 13:24 iirc, that was mattl idea Sep 24 13:24 mostly legitimises windows Sep 24 13:24 and makes it look like we are longing for openWINDOWS Sep 24 13:24 that's not revolutionary Sep 24 13:24 but it got a lot of attention from Microsoft 'news' (noise) sites Sep 24 13:24 maybe because it sucked Sep 24 13:24 they could instead say something for WINE and even reactOS (the latter is not a good idea either) Sep 24 13:24 Yes that any move to legitimize M$ or Windows is harmful to society not just Sep 24 13:25 software.  ReactOS is interesting but less serious than TempleOS Sep 24 13:25 Either way, ReactOS does not do away with the technical shortcomings of Sep 24 13:25 bad design and bad implementation Sep 24 13:25 echrights-news> The price inflation crisis... not energy ☛ https://www.commondreams.org/views/2022/09/23/what-you-need-know-about-energy-crisis | Source: Common Dreams Sep 24 13:28 -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-www.commondreams.org | Opinion | What You Need to Know About the Energy Crisis | Richard Heinberg Sep 24 13:28 -TechrightsSocial/#boycottnovell-social- www.commondreams.org | Opinion | What You Need to Know About the Energy Crisis | Richard Heinberg Sep 24 13:28 It was all along a mistake (short-sighted convenience), a HUGE mistake in fact, to build an energy grid and food supply that relies on relations with your political Sep 24 13:29 Ah, that explains the lack of recent development: Sep 24 13:38 "Terry A. Davis (1969 - 2018)" Sep 24 13:38 https://templeos.org/ Sep 24 13:38 Now there's just ReactOS left in that category. Sep 24 13:38 https://reactos.org/ Sep 24 13:38 -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-templeos.org | TempleOS Sep 24 13:38 In contrast, Haiku OS seems to be doing ok: Sep 24 13:38 -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-reactos.org | Front Page | ReactOS Project Sep 24 13:38 https://www.haiku-os.org/ Sep 24 13:38 -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-www.haiku-os.org | Home | Haiku Project Sep 24 13:38 http://www.codersnotes.com/notes/a-constructive-look-at-templeos/ Sep 24 13:42 -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-www.codersnotes.com | A Constructive Look At TempleOS Sep 24 13:42 well, he's dead Sep 24 13:42 like gary Sep 24 13:43 died in a bar brawl or something Sep 24 13:43 perfectly routine Sep 24 13:43 http://www.codersnotes.com/notes/a-constructive-look-at-templeos/ Sep 24 16:26 Kildall aparently tried to see a doctor but was sent home Sep 24 16:26 Ian Murdock did actually see a doctor but was beaten a second time at home. Sep 24 16:26 Dang that is going to be seven years ago already. Sep 24 16:26 Who knows what actually happene to him after that.  He was ranting online Sep 24 16:26 that he was preparing a description of what had happened.  Then he was dead. Sep 24 16:26 His family has been quiet about all that. Sep 24 16:26 had a friend over for 3 hours, he is also rianne's referee Sep 24 16:27 so fell behind schedule for the day Sep 24 16:27 will still do videos later Sep 24 16:27 *Noisytoot has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) Sep 24 16:42 *Noisytoot (~noisytoot@tkbibjhmbkvb8.irc) has joined #boycottnovell Sep 24 16:42 had a very very very long talk, inc. what happens in TR with the brigades Sep 24 16:44 seems likee a very familiar tactic Sep 24 16:44 I've know him over 20 years Sep 24 16:44 *known Sep 24 16:44 he plans to break the world record this winter Sep 24 16:44 across the road from us at the stadium Sep 24 16:45 (over 50s) Sep 24 16:45 ack Sep 24 16:50 turns out the jab ruined his kneww too Sep 24 16:52 my two best friends here Sep 24 16:52 both with knee issues because of astrozeneca and knee specialist blames it too Sep 24 16:52 saying it was very commonplace Sep 24 16:52 the media... silence Sep 24 16:52 ack Sep 24 16:52 Interesting and unfortunate. Sep 24 16:52 THe media is not quite silent, they amplify the strawman arguments and then Sep 24 16:58 use those to ridicule all dissent up to even merely questioning the approach Sep 24 16:58 chosen by the key pharmaceutical companies Sep 24 16:58 I will varry on reporting what I see every eweek Sep 24 17:01 in my own style, which is safe and factual Sep 24 17:01 if the data becomes less available, less readily accessible, or less complete/reliable (they Sep 24 17:01 did they several times already; changing defs and announcing "missing" past data) Sep 24 17:01 then I will turn to alternative sources of data and use those Sep 24 17:01 I always say, Sep 24 17:01 it's hard to hide body/bodies or lies about the number of people who died Sep 24 17:01 because death is a very significant event in one's "life"time Sep 24 17:01 I also make local copies of many PDFs in my site Sep 24 17:01 one day the original links will be broken Sep 24 17:01 esp. if there is greater financial incentive to break them Sep 24 17:01 and censoring british doctors who cite official data by deleting their youtube accounts won't be enough Sep 24 17:01 *starstreak (~starstreak@muarsy2vret2q.irc) has joined #boycottnovell Sep 24 17:02 Changing the definitions and baselines are the most problematic and deceptive Sep 24 17:02 because it (intentionally) prevents tracking the situation over time. Sep 24 17:02 told mike, it is AMAZING how, looking at old veideos of that same doctor yesterday/last nightm it turtned out we showed and said the SAQME thing Sep 24 17:05 though I never watched him before Sep 24 17:05 because we both ended up chasing death related data Sep 24 17:05 and en ded up with ONS Sep 24 17:05 and then reached the exact same conclusions Sep 24 17:05 and made remarks on omisssions and averages Sep 24 17:05 except Sep 24 17:05 I cannot be easily censotred Sep 24 17:05 That adds substantial support to the conclusion then.  :/ Sep 24 17:05 whereas he is threatened with loss of ALL his videos ever Sep 24 17:05 videos that years ago helped save lives in poor countries Sep 24 17:05 reminds me of winston in 1984 Sep 24 17:05 they steer him towards "rightspeak" Sep 24 17:05 by intimidation Sep 24 17:05 2+2=5 Sep 24 17:05 let's jsut say that my 3 best friends all report very serious angst and (I think) have regarets Sep 24 17:08 all of them, except one i think, must work with other people and thus to them it is barely a choice Sep 24 17:08 rianne and i both work from home and it pays off now Sep 24 17:08 btw, he says i should keep my job Sep 24 17:08 both he and rianne saw reports today re expectation of 24% or 25% inflation by April Sep 24 17:08 hence, value of savings will erode considerably Sep 24 17:08 so I said, ok, I won't rush to leave Sep 24 17:08 he also knows how severance is canculate for my job Sep 24 17:08 *calculated Sep 24 17:08 he isa  director (technical company, 3 masters degrees) Sep 24 17:08 Not a surprise.  There is also "shrinkflation" at the same time which is hiding Sep 24 17:08 that the situation is even slightly worse than the official numbers. Sep 24 17:08 Excellent that he could advise. Sep 24 17:08 inflation is not uniform and depends on people's spending habits Sep 24 17:10 my friend just lost 150k Sep 24 17:10 to a scam Sep 24 17:10 and want to try to recover some Sep 24 17:10 all his money Sep 24 17:10 his home liquidated Sep 24 17:10 150k ??? Sep 24 17:10 :( Sep 24 17:10 crypto bros Sep 24 17:12 got to his via microsoft linkedin Sep 24 17:12 i am still learning more, lots of communication today Sep 24 17:12 hence TR will be lower priority Sep 24 17:12 you'd think a 59 yo lecturers would know better Sep 24 17:12 turns out not Sep 24 17:12 people want get-rich-fast schemes Sep 24 17:12 crypto  XOR  cryptocurrency? Sep 24 17:13 Crypto has been ok but cryprocurrency has been a scam since the beginning Sep 24 17:13 Back in 2009 ... Sep 24 17:13 in 2022 "linux" also means cryptocranks Sep 24 17:15 hyperledger etc. Sep 24 17:15 "fintech" Sep 24 17:15 banksters Sep 24 17:15 the brand is without lustre anymore Sep 24 17:15 sorry to think I spent my whole adult life promoiting this brand Sep 24 17:15 now I focus on other terms Sep 24 17:15 I also promotes the term "open source" for a long time Sep 24 17:15 but sucvh is the nature of subversive tactics Sep 24 17:15 hijacking wordsds Sep 24 17:15 so you need to keep on moving Sep 24 17:15 like switching from SUSE to somehting else Sep 24 17:15 from SUSE lover and booster to leading a boycott Sep 24 17:15 ack Sep 24 17:15 gay used to mean happy Sep 24 17:16 linux used to imply freedom Sep 24 17:16 freedom means libertarian now I think Sep 24 17:16 so we need more clarity Sep 24 17:16 tech authonomy Sep 24 17:16 etc etc Sep 24 17:16 we need to move with the times Sep 24 17:17 the media changes the words Sep 24 17:17 btw, my fridnd knew far too little about gates Sep 24 17:17 I brought him up to date Sep 24 17:17 he was in irc many times over the ywars, but not real name Sep 24 17:17 ack Sep 24 17:22 Sep 24 17:22 digital sovereignty ? Sep 24 17:22 It hurts cyber readiness that Gates' minions are in and out of DC more than Sep 24 17:22 Redmond even. Sep 24 17:22 Windows kills Sep 24 17:22 i know someone who lost everything because of a microsoft linked scam - famous new words Sep 24 17:22 *linkedin Sep 24 17:22 rianne just saw the email Sep 24 17:22 on the screen Sep 24 17:22 post mortem Sep 24 17:22 ---- Sep 24 17:48 it's a crazy day here Sep 24 17:48 but much being done at "personal life" level Sep 24 17:48 not online Sep 24 17:48 so bear with us, rianne will catch up with rss shorly Sep 24 17:49 I will do videos before midnight Sep 24 17:49 i still cannot digest the extent of the crypto scam Sep 24 17:49 and ramifications Sep 24 17:49 set aside the damage I'm told the jab did Sep 24 17:49 but only off-the-recrod Sep 24 17:49 because you get punished severely career-wise for talking about it Sep 24 17:49 rianne says we learned a lot today Sep 24 17:49 from her two referees Sep 24 17:49 btw, the lasagna turned out to be very successful, about 7 servings already Sep 24 17:49 along with chocolate cake Sep 24 17:49 your recipe ;-) Sep 24 18:16 *Noisytoot has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) Sep 24 19:01 *Noisytoot (~noisytoot@tkbibjhmbkvb8.irc) has joined #boycottnovell Sep 24 19:03 *Noisytoot has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) Sep 24 19:16 *Noisytoot (~noisytoot@tkbibjhmbkvb8.irc) has joined #boycottnovell Sep 24 19:17 *Noisytoot has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) Sep 24 19:20 *Noisytoot (~noisytoot@tkbibjhmbkvb8.irc) has joined #boycottnovell Sep 24 19:23 wonderful! Sep 24 19:57 *DaemonFC (~daemonfc@pg22z8ea8nzde.irc) has joined #boycottnovell Sep 24 21:33 *psydroid2 has quit (connection closed) Sep 24 21:52 *u-amarsh04 has quit (Quit: Konversation terminated!) Sep 24 22:22 *u-amarsh04 has quit (Quit: Konversation terminated!) Sep 24 22:22 *psydruid (~psydruid@jevhxkzmtrbww.irc) has left #boycottnovell Sep 24 22:31 *psydruid (~psydruid@jevhxkzmtrbww.irc) has joined #boycottnovell Sep 24 22:31 *u-amarsh04 (~amarsh04@freenode-rmogvn.g0d7.dtdf.mc4289.IP) has joined #boycottnovell Sep 24 22:33 *u-amarsh04 (~amarsh04@22agg6qj8dxhg.irc) has joined #boycottnovell Sep 24 22:33 *psydruid (~psydruid@jevhxkzmtrbww.irc) has left #boycottnovell Sep 24 22:40 *psydruid (~psydruid@jevhxkzmtrbww.irc) has joined #boycottnovell Sep 24 22:40 "So, today I received an email about a second community strike, but no action appears to have been taken. Am I being hunted by the dogs? Is my time almost up? I am not sure. As of now, I do not have any notice on the channel itself, but just an email so I thought I would get this message out. If I disappear from the YT kingdom, I will be covertly releasing videos here..." https://yewtu.be/watch?v=WRhTZmGuFN0 Sep 24 22:46 -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-yewtu.be | WTH YouTube? | Queen Wiciwici may be after me again! - Invidious Sep 24 22:46 gulag vs linux channels Sep 24 22:46 *DaemonFC has quit (Quit: Leaving) Sep 24 22:58 *DaemonFC (~daemonfc@vryz9fzjqmc2k.irc) has joined #boycottnovell Sep 24 23:01 *psydruid (~psydruid@jevhxkzmtrbww.irc) has left #boycottnovell Sep 24 23:57

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