●● IRC: #boycottnovell @ Techrights IRC Network: Sunday, October 24, 2021 ●● ● Oct 24 [00:59] *psydroid3 has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) ● Oct 24 [01:13] *altlink_883 has quit (connection closed) [01:13] *altlink_503 (~altlink_503@2f7u5j6f87p9g.irc) has joined #boycottnovell ● Oct 24 [04:05] *DaemonFC has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [04:09] *DaemonFC (~daemonfc@6dxztabriinw4.irc) has joined #boycottnovell [04:17] *DaemonFC has quit (Quit: Leaving) [04:22] *DaemonFC (~daemonfc@f4askddbij3kq.irc) has joined #boycottnovell [04:38] *leah has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [04:38] *leah (~leah@wrh2nipuzrd3y.irc) has joined #boycottnovell ● Oct 24 [06:13] *activelow has quit (connection closed) [06:13] *activelow (~activelow@gvrgv6p9zx2qy.irc) has joined #boycottnovell [06:16] *DaemonFC has quit (Quit: Leaving) [06:56] *leah has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [06:57] *leah (~leah@wrh2nipuzrd3y.irc) has joined #boycottnovell ● Oct 24 [07:34] *leah has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [07:38] *leah (~leah@wrh2nipuzrd3y.irc) has joined #boycottnovell [07:48] *leah has quit (connection closed) [07:48] *leah (~leah@wrh2nipuzrd3y.irc) has joined #boycottnovell ● Oct 24 [08:38] schestowitz = [08:38] schestowitz x https://dusted.codes/can-we-trust-microsoft-with-open-source [08:38] -altlink_503/#boycottnovell- Cloudflare: dusted.codes | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://dusted.codes/can-we-trust-microsoft-with-open-source [08:38] -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-dusted.codes | Can we trust Microsoft with Open Source? - Dusted Codes [08:38] schestowitz = [08:38] schestowitz x https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-middle-east-58955584 [08:38] -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-www.bbc.co.uk | Saudi Arabia commits to net zero emissions by 2060 - BBC News [08:41] schestowitz x https://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/gadgets-news/microsoft-is-sorry-for-angering-developers-by-removing-a-key-feature/articleshow/87235337.cms [08:41] -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-timesofindia.indiatimes.com | microsoft: Microsoft is sorry for angering developers by removing a key feature - Times of India [08:41] schestowitz x https://www.theverge.com/2021/10/23/22742282/microsoft-dotnet-hot-reload-u-turn-response [08:41] -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-www.theverge.com | Microsoft reverses controversial .NET change after open source community outcry - The Verge [08:57] Techrights-sec I'm getting only about 6k posts from TR with the current scrapes, so [08:57] Techrights-sec the methodology is wrong somehow. I though it was the same method as [08:57] Techrights-sec before, but apparently not. [08:57] schestowitz-TR2 nothing has changed ● Oct 24 [09:17] *liberty_box has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [09:17] *rianne has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [09:23] *rianne (~rianne@62vhapicsw4ds.irc) has joined #boycottnovell [09:23] *liberty_box (~liberty@62vhapicsw4ds.irc) has joined #boycottnovell [09:46] Techrights-sec Yes, the problem is with the script. It's slow to run a full scan so [09:46] Techrights-sec I'll have to find a way to identify which are missing. That will give a [09:46] Techrights-sec clue as to how they are going missing in the deep dive. [09:46] Techrights-sec One guess is that the multi-page days are not getting scraped. [09:46] Techrights-sec Can you recall any days which have unusually large numbers of posts? [09:46] Techrights-sec Found it. If this worked then I'll update the Gemini capsule with the [09:46] Techrights-sec better parsing. Then I'll rescrape to make a static copy including the [09:46] Techrights-sec images. [09:47] schestowitz-TR2 I was just recording a video so could not respond. IIRC, the most posts per day was 29 some time in 2010 [09:48] schestowitz-TR2 I want to sleep better at night knowing we have good backups of all the hard work, which isn't only my work but many people's. I sometimes get offsite backups of DBs but the file system is a tougher one. [09:48] schestowitz-TR2 in recent days spider traffic in TR-gemini was reduced a lot, which can be good [09:50] Techrights-sec I back up the site as-is but this is a new approach. If there is a practical [09:50] Techrights-sec way to generate a static site then it can be done periodically. [09:50] Techrights-sec The spides have probably collected what they will collect and will now [09:50] Techrights-sec continue with the newer pages ● Oct 24 [10:49] *activelow has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [10:50] *activelow (~activelow@y5uquyi4zkuxy.irc) has joined #boycottnovell [10:59] *rianne has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) ● Oct 24 [11:00] *liberty_box has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [11:23] schestowitz http://ipkitten.blogspot.com/2021/10/conference-report-whither-will.html?showComment=1634908810184#c255332141786694463 [11:23] -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-ipkitten.blogspot.com | [Conference report] Whither will bifurcation go? A critical discussion on Germany's bifurcated patent proceedings - The IPKat [11:23] schestowitz | [11:23] schestowitz My earlier post regarding stays seems to have got lost but never mind. This post is stimulated by a TBA decision reported today, see https://www.epo.org/law-practice/case-law-appeals/pdf/t150463du1.pdf [11:23] schestowitz The opposition was filed in 2011 and the proceedings have been concluded 10 years later with the opposition being rejected. To argue that the patentee should not be able to enforce their rights pending an opposition would effectively be denying the patentee their legal monopolistic rights. [11:23] schestowitz | [11:24] schestowitz http://ipkitten.blogspot.com/2021/09/a-table-and-table-coaster-that-shaped.html?showComment=1634896393481#c7079574254457010827 [11:24] -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-ipkitten.blogspot.com | A table and a table coaster that shaped EU design law - The IPKat [11:24] schestowitz "Dear Xavier, the Paris court found no infringement in the Habitat case. In the German case, the court found that there was an infringement, which was later confirmed by the German Federal Court of Justice. You can see images of both table coasters here: http://juris.bundesgerichtshof.de/cgi-bin/rechtsprechung/document.py?Gericht=bgh&Art=en&nr=54151&pos=0&anz=1" [11:24] -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-juris.bundesgerichtshof.de | Urteil des I.Zivilsenats vom19.5.2010 -IZR71/08- [11:24] schestowitz http://ipkitten.blogspot.com/2021/10/around-ip-blogs_10.html?showComment=1634405301085#c358876863084901549 [11:24] -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-ipkitten.blogspot.com | Around the IP Blogs - The IPKat [11:24] schestowitz "thanks for valuable post.The definition of cyberstalking simply means "to harass and threaten a chosen target via the internet or other technological methods"" [11:26] schestowitz http://ipkitten.blogspot.com/2021/09/a-table-and-table-coaster-that-shaped.html?showComment=1634656286927#c5692703266791376119 [11:26] -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-ipkitten.blogspot.com | A table and a table coaster that shaped EU design law - The IPKat [11:26] schestowitz "While we are wearing our historian hats, what was the outcome for Paris First Instance Court and Higher Regional Court of Frankfurt am Main? Infringement found or not?" [11:27] schestowitz http://ipkitten.blogspot.com/2020/01/book-review-law-of-remedies-european.html?showComment=1634721596489#c5126437610615943040 [11:27] -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-ipkitten.blogspot.com | Book Review: Law of Remedies A European Perspective - The IPKat [11:27] schestowitz "The misdeed of defamation is perceived as an individuals right to protect his good name as well as reputation from unjust attacks of other people. This Defamation Act 2009 thus sets out a defined law applicable in all the different regions of Ireland." [11:27] *rianne (~rianne@62vhapicsw4ds.irc) has joined #boycottnovell [11:27] schestowitz http://ipkitten.blogspot.com/2020/01/furry-thoughts-on-sky-v-skykick-part-1.html?showComment=1634740169882#c1789516174387971903 [11:27] schestowitz " [11:27] -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-ipkitten.blogspot.com | Furry thoughts on Sky v. Skykick Part 1: trade marks lacking sufficient clarity and precision - The IPKat [11:27] schestowitz Really interesting article Lon. [11:27] schestowitz Any news on decision issues by the CJEU on how to best tackle the issue? Thank you in advance! [11:27] schestowitz " [11:27] *liberty_box (~liberty@62vhapicsw4ds.irc) has joined #boycottnovell [11:27] schestowitz http://ipkitten.blogspot.com/2005/04/death-of-patents.html?showComment=1634748606418#c7968213707511729344 [11:27] -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-ipkitten.blogspot.com | DEATH OF PATENTS - The IPKat [11:27] schestowitz "In actuality, these are the intellectual property law rights that implement on confidential information most of the time. This information can further be sold or licensed. Therefore, if you want to qualify as a trade secret, there are few things to which your information must comply." [11:28] schestowitz http://ipkitten.blogspot.com/2021/10/conference-report-whither-will.html?showComment=1634333052188#c485571366737267009 [11:28] -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-ipkitten.blogspot.com | [Conference report] Whither will bifurcation go? A critical discussion on Germany's bifurcated patent proceedings - The IPKat [11:28] schestowitz " [11:28] schestowitz The question is, how much is intent here, and how much is simply history. [11:28] schestowitz Until 1961 the patent office had "senates" (plus a board of appeal) to decide on validity. But since there is a right to have a court review decisions of an office, the Federal Patent Court had to be set up, and the senates were taken out of the patent office and turned into a court (any parallels to the EPO boards?). [11:28] schestowitz If anyone wants to change this, this would mean a major overhaul of the patent act and the institutions. [11:28] schestowitz Vice versa, the Lnder would not accept moving infringment suits to the Federal Patent Court, as they would loose a cash cow of their judicial system (since the "Streitwerte" are often so high in patent matters)... [11:28] schestowitz " [11:30] schestowitz http://ipkitten.blogspot.com/2021/10/conference-report-whither-will.html?showComment=1634482508115#c8332280077952144856 [11:30] -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-ipkitten.blogspot.com | [Conference report] Whither will bifurcation go? A critical discussion on Germany's bifurcated patent proceedings - The IPKat [11:30] schestowitz " [11:30] schestowitz The problem is when you see decisions after appeal in opposition before the EPO, around two thirds if not more of the patents are either revoked or maintained in amended form. [11:30] schestowitz And more than often the revocation or amendment is due to documents which were available at the time of the search but were not retrieved during the search (even Art 54(3) prior art from the applicant!). [11:30] schestowitz It would be wise to wait for the result of an opposition when there is an opposition pending at the EPO before deciding on the validity and hence the possible infringement of the German part of an European patent. [11:30] schestowitz When extrapolating the figures from oppositions at the EPO which roughly concern 5% of the granted patents, it seems also advisable to wait the result of the validity examination of the German part of an European patent before deciding on infringement. [11:30] schestowitz I claim that when hit by an infringement action before a German court, it is clear that in most cases the alleged infringer will hit back with a lack of validity. 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