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schestowitz-TRi wrote that post when i waas super-tiredJan 25 00:21
schestowitz-TRjust before bedtimeJan 25 00:21
schestowitz-TRbecause i wnated to put it out there asapJan 25 00:21
schestowitz-TRknowing how much damage that doesJan 25 00:21
techrigthssecquality is preferable to quantity, the text itself is missing a description\Jan 25 00:42
techrigthssecof what has happenedJan 25 00:42
techrigthssecusing up a good title like that without accompanying information misses a goodJan 25 00:42
techrigthssecopportunityJan 25 00:42
schestowitz-TRackJan 25 00:43
techrigthssecThe other day you mentioned some modifications to tm-new as far as summaries go.Jan 25 00:46
techrigthssecCan you describe the changes needed?  It was something about monthly summmaries.Jan 25 00:46
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schestowitz-TRyes. pseudocode:Jan 25 00:48
schestowitz-TR1. retrieve from db where month=$monthJan 25 00:48
schestowitz-TR2. select title, url, descriptionJan 25 00:49
schestowitz-TR3. <dd>/<dt> Jan 25 00:49
schestowitz-TR4. likely sorted by timeJan 25 00:49
schestowitz-TRthis way all the description I type in by hand will be picked up by search engines and moreover it'llJan 25 00:49
schestowitz-TRbe easily to navigate past months' workJan 25 00:49
techrigthssecGot it.Jan 25 00:49
schestowitz-TRi am aiming to finish rss, do daily links by 2amJan 25 00:50
schestowitz-TRthen write about iso wrt nhs dataJan 25 00:50
schestowitz-TRbefore 2:40 (bulletin)Jan 25 00:50
techrigthssecackJan 25 01:03
techrigthssecIt used to be that the search engines were aware of and used the descriptionJan 25 01:12
techrigthssecmetadata.Jan 25 01:12
techrigthssec I guess not any more.  Jan 25 01:23
schestowitz-TRdraftJan 25 02:00
techrigthssecCheckingJan 25 02:00
techrigthssec"ISO" needs to be expanded to "ISO 9000 Certification" or whatever at least    Jan 25 02:00
techrigthsseconce, preferably at the start -- if that's what you are refering to.Jan 25 02:00
techrigthssecOtherwise, it's not clear how ISO the organization relates to SiriusJan 25 02:00
schestowitz-TRadded at the topJan 25 02:00
techrigthssecI'd say use "ISO 9000 Certification" throughout the post even in the DIlbert Jan 25 02:01
techrigthsseccaption.  It's very confusing otherwise IMO Jan 25 02:01
techrigthssec"""Jan 25 02:09
techrigthssecGloating about "ISO" as in ISO 9000 certification...Jan 25 02:09
techrigthssec"""Jan 25 02:09
techrigthssec"""Jan 25 02:09
techrigthssecISO 9000 certificatoin needs to be ...Jan 25 02:09
techrigthssec"""Jan 25 02:09
techrigthssec"""Jan 25 02:09
techrigthssecExplaining ISO 9000 certification in ... Jan 25 02:09
techrigthssec"""Jan 25 02:09
techrigthssecetcJan 25 02:09
techrigthssecThere are 2 problems to track; one is the scam of the ISO 9000 certification;Jan 25 02:09
techrigthssecThe other is the destruction of ISO as an organization by M$Jan 25 02:09
techrigthssecs/mass muster/pass muster/Jan 25 02:27
techrigthssecs/ISO allows personal/ISO 9000 certification allows/Jan 25 02:27
techrigthssecetcJan 25 02:27
techrigthssecto differentiate between the specific certification and the organization   Jan 25 02:27
techrigthssecgranting the certificateJan 25 02:27
schestowitz-TRgrieving todayJan 25 04:51
schestowitz-TRtrying to find MIA flightsJan 25 04:51
schestowitz-TRfalkon does not work with any airline site I am tryingJan 25 04:51
schestowitz-TRabsurdJan 25 04:51
schestowitz-TRi cannot even see pricesJan 25 04:51
schestowitz-TRgosh, librewolf does not work either Jan 25 04:51
schestowitz-TRseems like they blcok every non-Google browserJan 25 04:51
schestowitz-TRfirefox worksJan 25 04:51
schestowitz-TRno way I am paying 2500 pounds for a return flight to MiamiJan 25 04:51
schestowitz-TRtotal ripoff!Jan 25 04:51
schestowitz-TRthey don't even care if someone died!! they exploit that. Jan 25 04:51
schestowitz-TR[me very angry!]Jan 25 04:51
psydruidBritish Airways has return flights from Heathrow to Miami from €750Jan 25 05:36
schestowitz-TRnot a day's noticeJan 25 05:36
psydruidI put today's date in my searchJan 25 05:37
psydruidthey have another flight in the afternoonJan 25 05:38
schestowitz-TRi see...Jan 25 05:38
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schestowitz-TRspoke to some cousins, I think I will send an essay for them to read Jan 25 06:56
schestowitz-TRhem to read Jan 25 07:00
schestowitz-TRdon't mean to sound alarming, but I think deaths are "accelerating" a bit, both based on stats and directJan 25 07:00
schestowitz-TRexperience (relatives). Some people lose a year. Some loses 10 years. Some even 50 years. That's tragic.Jan 25 07:00
schestowitz-TRnobody wants to end up an epitaph or obituary like swarz, he died so younfJan 25 07:00
schestowitz-TRthe time wasted in conde nasty [sic] can be recovered some other wayJan 25 07:00
schestowitz-TRbut 60 odd years were thrown awayJan 25 07:00
techrigthssecIncreased deaths are quite likely given the decreased caution.Jan 25 07:00
schestowitz-TRi heard ambulances or police a few times overnightJan 25 07:08
schestowitz-TRfrom the stats that I saw (maybe not discussed as much as the work-blaming ambulance driver dtrikes)Jan 25 07:08
schestowitz-TRthere are many distress calls from homesJan 25 07:08
schestowitz-TRas people die in their homesJan 25 07:08
schestowitz-TRnot waking up or collapsingJan 25 07:08
schestowitz-TRand disscussions about this get to be ridiculed as "anti-vaxx"Jan 25 07:08
schestowitz-TR*worker-blamingJan 25 07:08
techrigthssecThe blame shifting distracts from the reality of who has been intentionallyJan 25 07:16
techrigthssecunderfunding and understaffing the NHSJan 25 07:16
techrigthssecand why.Jan 25 07:16
schestowitz-TRI ranted about "the media" in IRC/TR-bot earlier tonight, but that's not a new problemJan 25 07:20
schestowitz-TRthe media is becoming an oppressive voice, and wikipedia is a close secondJan 25 07:20
schestowitz-TRobscructing critics of very bad orgs/peopleJan 25 07:20
schestowitz-TRone can hope gemini and other "alt" things will undo this damage/trends somehowJan 25 07:20
schestowitz-TRbecause it makes no sense that media read by 90% of people is working against their interestswJan 25 07:20
schestowitz-TRwhen their capacity to disseminate their own narrative is 10 times bigger, in theory...Jan 25 07:20
schestowitz-TRsocial contgrol media helped created conglemerates at the expense of millions of personal voices/blogsJan 25 07:20
schestowitz-TRyoutube is part of thatJan 25 07:20
schestowitz-TRculling many peopleJan 25 07:20
schestowitz-TRthey seduced many people out of their own platforms with "likes" and fake "friends" (fake status)Jan 25 07:20
schestowitz-TRand now many realised that if they on their deathbedJan 25 07:20
schestowitz-TRthe last thing they'd say is, "gee!! I wish I had more twitter 'followers'..."Jan 25 07:20
techrigthssecWikipedia has been a propaganda engine for years after it became a playgroundJan 25 07:21
techrigthssecfor marketeers.Jan 25 07:21
schestowitz-TRI try NOT to link to wikipedia these daysJan 25 07:23
schestowitz-TRbut then again the www as a whole is trashJan 25 07:23
schestowitz-TRjumped the sharkJan 25 07:23
schestowitz-TRmany web sites don't eevn show up without overlay saying "WE VALUE YOUR PRIVACY"Jan 25 07:23
schestowitz-TRor airlines that insist you use spyware with SYSTEM-level accessJan 25 07:23
techrigthssecIt's usually avoidable.    Jan 25 07:23
techrigthssecThere was a good blog post recently about the advantages of "owning" your ownJan 25 07:23
techrigthssecdomain name.Jan 25 07:23
techrigthssecMost sites are no longer web sites, but instead javascript "apps" served overJan 25 07:23
techrigthssechttpJan 25 07:23
schestowitz-TRAzure LAYOFFS. "Simple: Cloud cost is way high. Customers are moving back to premise to improve cost." https://www.thelayoff.com/t/1kQvvViD#repliesJan 25 08:19
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-www.thelayoff.com | Layoffs are still happening - post regarding Microsoft Corp. layoffsJan 25 08:19
schestowitz-TRthey need staff that knows how to do this, not memoprise fucking proprietary GUIsJan 25 08:20
schestowitz-TRmaybe the media can come up with words like "onprem" or "clown-native" or...Jan 25 08:20
schestowitz-TRto make the old sound newJan 25 08:20
techrigthssecackJan 25 08:20
schestowitz-TRSo will Microsoft refund that 22 BILLION DOLLARS in Biden graft, seeing that HoloLens is now dead? https://www.windowscentral.com/microsoft/microsoft-has-laid-off-entire-teams-behind-virtual-mixed-reality-and-hololens see http://techrights.org/2022/02/04/the-united-states-government-should-quit-bailing-out-microsoft-at-taxpayers-expense/Jan 25 08:41
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-www.windowscentral.com | Microsoft has laid off entire teams behind Virtual, Mixed Reality, and HoloLens | Windows CentralJan 25 08:41
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-techrights.org | The United States Government Should Quit Bailing Out Microsoft at Taxpayers’ Expense | TechrightsJan 25 08:41
techrigthssecVery important question.Jan 25 08:42
psydruidhttps://www.windowscentral.com/hardware/laptops/surface-and-windows-revenue-tanks-39-in-latest-microsoft-earnings-reportJan 25 09:00
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-www.windowscentral.com | Surface and Windows revenue tanks 39% in latest Microsoft earnings report | Windows CentralJan 25 09:00
psydruidDeath by a thousand cutsJan 25 09:01
schestowitz:)Jan 25 09:01
schestowitz-TRgym timeJan 25 09:47
techrigthssecackJan 25 09:48
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schestowitz-TR<techrights-news> New Record Low: Only One ’Linux’ Article in ZDNet in More Than Two Weeks | Techrights ⚓ http://techrights.org/2023/01/25/zdnet-went-dry/ | ♾ Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2023/01/25/zdnet-went-dry/Jan 25 10:44
schestowitz-TR[TechrightsSocial] techrights.org | New Record Low: Only One ‘Linux’ Article in ZDNet in More Than Two Weeks | TechrightsJan 25 10:44
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-techrights.org | New Record Low: Only One ‘Linux’ Article in ZDNet in More Than Two Weeks | TechrightsJan 25 10:44
schestowitz-TR<techrights-news> Steven Vaughan-Nichols gradually exiting ZDNet? https://opensourcewatch.beehiiv.com/p/new-linux-kernel-smb-security-flaw-revealedJan 25 10:44
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-opensourcewatch.beehiiv.com | New Linux kernel SMB security flaw revealed | Open Source WatchJan 25 10:44
schestowitz-TR[TechrightsSocial] opensourcewatch.beehiiv.com | New Linux kernel SMB security flaw revealed | Open Source WatchJan 25 10:44
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schestowitz-TRHow is this content? http://news.tuxmachines.org/test.shtmlJan 25 11:50
schestowitz-TRThe script can start from an arbitrary date but defaults to one month ago.Jan 25 11:50
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-news.tuxmachines.org | Tux Machines posts since 2022-12-26Jan 25 11:50
techrigthssecHow is this content? http://news.tuxmachines.org/test.shtmlJan 25 11:53
techrigthssecThe script can start from an arbitrary date but defaults to one month ago.Jan 25 11:53
schestowitz-TRthat looks greatJan 25 11:53
schestowitz-TRi will ask other half as wellJan 25 11:53
schestowitz-TRstruggling emotionally atm because I am writing about my friendJan 25 11:53
schestowitz-TRand many things come back to meJan 25 11:53
schestowitz-TRrianne just took a lookJan 25 11:58
schestowitz-TRfeedback is positiveJan 25 11:58
schestowitz-TRshe thinks monthly archives would help mher a lotJan 25 11:58
schestowitz-TRlocating older pages she is updatingJan 25 11:58
schestowitz-TRi assume it's as easy to putput such pages to gemini/gemtext, as the format is similar Jan 25 11:58
schestowitz-TRand that makes indexing easier for crawlersJan 25 11:58
schestowitz-TRi have just checkedJan 25 12:03
schestowitz-TRfair point Jan 25 12:03
schestowitz-TRi think that with gemini the main way to navigate to old pages is go back, back, back, back...Jan 25 12:03
schestowitz-TRlinear navigation onlyJan 25 12:03
schestowitz-TRthe summaries only ever showed up in the front page Jan 25 12:03
techrigthssecNo need for gemtext since it is for the search engine indexes and the gemtextJan 25 12:04
techrigthssechave the summaries anywayJan 25 12:04
techrigthssecAny suggestion for file name?Jan 25 12:22
schestowitz-TRdoes it need a file name with extension, or can a directory with index be created?Jan 25 12:41
schestowitz-TRmaybe ~/year/month/ ?Jan 25 12:41
techrigthssecEither way is goodJan 25 13:41
techrigthssecIt's a rolling date period based on the latest N days, so it's a single fileJan 25 13:41
techrigthssecsince it contains only redundant information Jan 25 13:41
schestowitz-TRsorry, was awayJan 25 13:46
schestowitz-TRfinished writing a rushed tribute to HarvJan 25 13:46
schestowitz-TRand got message from ONSJan 25 13:46
schestowitz-TRposted an update on that as wellJan 25 13:46
schestowitz-TRI guess if the archive is done irregularly, like once a day, or once a month, then the large file canJan 25 13:46
schestowitz-TRbe split and filed semi-manually? I guess it would become a strain on the server if the site ages a lotJan 25 13:46
schestowitz-TRand also lots of manual work Jan 25 13:46
techrigthssecnpJan 25 13:47
techrigthssecIt's fully redundant and would not add anything other than the attempt at Jan 25 13:47
techrigthssecfeeding the search engines.  The material already exists in the establishedJan 25 13:47
techrigthssecpages so it would just be adding complexity for what looks like zero gain. Jan 25 13:47
techrigthssecThe single file will probably be an advantage but leaving old copies around Jan 25 13:47
techrigthssecwill not help as far as I understand the current problem with the search enginesJan 25 13:47
schestowitz-TRit can help to be able to check a page with weeks-old pages sometimes Jan 25 13:49
schestowitz-TRfor those who try to avoid dupesJan 25 13:49
techrigthssecIt's parked here: news.tuxmachines.org/summary.shtml and updated by cronJan 25 13:49
schestowitz-TRrianne says "thnk you"Jan 25 13:54
schestowitz-TRshe will use it, it is useful in checking for risk of dupesJan 25 13:54
schestowitz-TRthe summaries help catch some extra keywords, e.g. "mx linus"Jan 25 13:54
schestowitz-TR*linusJan 25 13:54
schestowitz-TR>linuxJan 25 13:54
schestowitz-TRthanks! for me too it is practically useful.Jan 25 13:54
schestowitz-TRI want to think TM will live another 20 years, but doubt www will survive this longJan 25 13:54
schestowitz-TR20 years is a long time in techJan 25 13:54
techrigthssecNew protocols can arise during that timeJan 25 14:41
techrigthssecThe crucial period is can the WWW survive past the attempt to inflict HTTP/3 onJan 25 14:41
techrigthssecitJan 25 14:41
schestowitz-TRwhat i experienced today in airline sites was neauseatingJan 25 14:43
schestowitz-TRand it only gets worse over timeJan 25 14:43
schestowitz-TRI remember the days of everything as "windows softwareJan 25 14:43
schestowitz-TR"Jan 25 14:43
schestowitz-TRWINE had not been around yetJan 25 14:43
schestowitz-TRtax software, quicken, etc.Jan 25 14:43
schestowitz-TRwe're getting there, escept the browser is the OSJan 25 14:43
schestowitz-TRheck, there is an OS now called after the browseeJan 25 14:43
schestowitz-TRnot firefoxosJan 25 14:43
techrigthssecThe problem with the browser has two parts.  One is that businesses are using  Jan 25 14:47
techrigthssecthe browser as a half-assed VM.  The second is that they completely eschewJan 25 14:47
techrigthssecopen standards and core functionality.Jan 25 14:47
schestowitz-TRnotes to self: write in a timeless way: ideas, concepts, not brands. storage in simple, generic form. Jan 25 14:48
schestowitz-TRprograms: keep them simple, no big frameworks like rust or adobe trash. make many backups, ensure formatJan 25 14:48
schestowitz-TRshifting is widely available upon need, even decades later (images, videos, latex...)Jan 25 14:48
schestowitz-TRyesJan 25 14:48
schestowitz-TRwe need to always been several steps ahead, technologically and beyondJan 25 14:59
schestowitz-TRas in, a step ahead in things covered and the underlying tech Jan 25 14:59
schestowitz-TRahead != newerJan 25 14:59
schestowitz-TRthe "latest" ofte gets left behindJan 25 14:59
schestowitz-TRlike clownJan 25 14:59
schestowitz-TRthe wave of layoffs quietly killed off not only jobs but also APIs and so-called (not) "ecosystems"Jan 25 14:59
schestowitz-TRmany will get "burned" and some, as a result, "burned out"Jan 25 14:59
schestowitz-TRgoogle's war on gpl (linux) has failed again and they throw in the towelJan 25 14:59
schestowitz-TRif they lose money, it is doomed to fail for financial reasonsJan 25 14:59
schestowitz-TRmany videos in 'free' hosting sites will vanish as the economy sinksJan 25 14:59
schestowitz-TRnobody wants to be left holding the billsJan 25 14:59
schestowitz-TRand people don't want to watch 5 ads in a 5-minute videoJan 25 14:59
schestowitz-TR(bonus: in an economic downturn people buy only essensial, advertising moot)Jan 25 14:59
schestowitz-TRtoday you sent a url from hillel (seen it in rss too, and others had said the same re bloated s/w - thoseJan 25 15:07
schestowitz-TRthings typically go away and perish sooner. drm and hd over the net = uneconomicJan 25 15:07
schestowitz-TRcory read a lot of books while on holidayJan 25 15:14
schestowitz-TRwe only saw some of the  reviews he wrote about theseJan 25 15:14
schestowitz-TRsome seems like eff-recommended gender stuffJan 25 15:14
schestowitz-TRbut I think watching corporate media like CBS has its risksJan 25 15:14
schestowitz-TRtoo much risk of intyentional bias projecting from up above in the corporate chain of commandJan 25 15:14
techrigthssecRight. However, it is the only service to date which has picked up on ByteDanceJan 25 15:36
techrigthssecackJan 25 15:36
schestowitz-TR60 Minutes did some awful things beforeJan 25 15:37
schestowitz-TRbut I cannot give you examples because I forgotJan 25 15:37
schestowitz-TRthat was yars ago, back when NSA was still talked aboutJan 25 15:37
schestowitz-TRand wikileaks was publishing loads of juicy leaksJan 25 15:37
schestowitz-TRbtw, if you reead the latest (this afternoon) ons stuff, it seems like we might be close tom agreementJan 25 15:37
schestowitz-TRthat nothing wrong was done and thus the data is okJan 25 15:37
schestowitz-TRkeeping their feet to the fire is crucial because recently it was confirmed that had relayed intentionalJan 25 15:37
schestowitz-TRpropaganda by cooking up some numbersJan 25 15:37
schestowitz-TRthey need to understand they are watched closely Jan 25 15:37
techrigthssecackJan 25 15:38
schestowitz-TRTikTok ☛ https://www.thenation.com/article/politics/tiktok-election-gen-z-voters/ | Source: The NationJan 25 16:27
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-www.thenation.com | The Growing Political Power of TikTok | The NationJan 25 16:27
schestowitz-TRliteracy ☛ https://truthout.org/articles/media-literacy-for-young-people-is-crucial-but-rarely-taught-in-schools/ | Source: TruthOutJan 25 16:36
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-truthout.org | Media Literacy for Young People Is Crucial — But Rarely Taught in Schools - TruthoutJan 25 16:36
schestowitz-TRthe two above, combined -> diasterJan 25 16:37
schestowitz-TR"had many likes in it" != legitJan 25 16:43
techrigthssecSource evaluation is no longer taught anywhere AFAIKJan 25 16:43
techrigthssecAbsolutelyJan 25 16:43
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