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| schestowitz-TR | gm | May 25 05:57 |
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| schestowitz-TR | emergency-ish here | May 25 05:57 |
| schestowitz-TR | we had 1.5 hour electric outage | May 25 05:57 |
| schestowitz-TR | do not try to retreieve | May 25 05:57 |
| schestowitz-TR | ipfs stuff just yet | May 25 05:57 |
| schestowitz-TR | it has not run yet | May 25 05:57 |
| schestowitz-TR | worse yet, I cannot gegt wlan to show up on the pi | May 25 05:57 |
| schestowitz-TR | after the reboot | May 25 05:57 |
| schestowitz-TR | upon boot iy says "failked to start Load Kernel Module" | May 25 05:57 |
| schestowitz-TR | then it goes into the desktopop OK | May 25 05:57 |
| schestowitz-TR | but it seems like wireless option is hard to get going | May 25 05:57 |
| schestowitz-TR | any pointers? | May 25 05:57 |
| Techrights-sec | I wondered why no access to gemini.techrights.org | May 25 05:57 |
| Techrights-sec | wlan troubles here too | May 25 05:57 |
| Techrights-sec | can you do a system update? | May 25 05:57 |
| schestowitz-TR | <techrights-news> About half these are Microsoft, for the second day in a row, but the corrupt media lets Microsoft badmouth "Linux" over admins who choose lousy passwords. These are actively-exploited Microsoft holes! https://us-cert.cisa.gov/ncas/current-activity/2022/05/24/cisa-adds-20-known-exploited-vulnerabilities-catalog | May 25 05:58 |
| schestowitz-TR | for system update I would need a connection I assume | May 25 05:58 |
| schestowitz-TR | unless you think it will try to amend something locally, too | May 25 05:58 |
| schestowitz-TR | does it have ethernet port? or over usb? | May 25 05:58 |
| Techrights-sec | What about the package 'debsums" ? | May 25 05:59 |
| Techrights-sec | no Ethernet at all? | May 25 05:59 |
| Techrights-sec | It has Ethernet next to the USB ports | May 25 05:59 |
| schestowitz-TR | i am goint to try | May 25 06:00 |
| schestowitz-TR | icidentally, I am getting to test my usb clone of the system | May 25 06:00 |
| schestowitz-TR | brb | May 25 06:00 |
| schestowitz-TR | a) usb boots OK | May 25 06:19 |
| schestowitz-TR | b) usb very slow for anything, both on rianne's and mine | May 25 06:19 |
| schestowitz-TR | c) when it finally booted wlan0 worked | May 25 06:19 |
| schestowitz-TR | but it's an old backup of the whole system, and slow | May 25 06:19 |
| schestowitz-TR | d) gooing back to sd card | May 25 06:19 |
| schestowitz-TR | e) running system update now | May 25 06:19 |
| schestowitz-TR | linux (kernel) has no new version, I assume maybe version update broke it (I did system update about 2 weeks ago) | May 25 06:19 |
| schestowitz-TR | f) eth0 works fine, I didn't even remember the pi4 has it | May 25 06:19 |
| Techrights-sec | ack | May 25 06:19 |
| Techrights-sec | ack | May 25 06:24 |
| Techrights-sec | f) it's not quite 1Gb/s but close | May 25 06:24 |
| Techrights-sec | but most home networks are probably still only 100Mb/s | May 25 06:24 |
| schestowitz-TR | no, wait, yoiu leap ahead | May 25 06:30 |
| schestowitz-TR | so I did full system update | May 25 06:30 |
| schestowitz-TR | no linux update was there | May 25 06:30 |
| schestowitz-TR | you said you too lost wifi ####################################### | May 25 06:30 |
| schestowitz-TR | so I told rianne not to update hers # ########################## # | May 25 06:30 |
| schestowitz-TR | when rebooting now it is the same issue | May 25 06:30 |
| schestowitz-TR | wifi works OK when I bot from the older clone | May 25 06:30 |
| schestowitz-TR | I chedked how to boot the pi with an older klernel | May 25 06:30 |
| schestowitz-TR | knowing it does not use grub | May 25 06:30 |
| Techrights-sec | ssh: connect to host gemini.techrights.org port 22: No route to host | May 25 06:31 |
| Techrights-sec | DNS may be out of date? | May 25 06:31 |
| schestowitz-TR | do you know how to choose another kernel? I looked up some info, but it was not too useful | May 25 06:35 |
| schestowitz-TR | assuming the pi does kerp old kernels and lets me select these | May 25 06:35 |
| Techrights-sec | ack | May 25 06:35 |
| Techrights-sec | is that in /boot/config.txt ? | May 25 06:35 |
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| Techrights-sec | if so, then shutdown and remove USB drive, mount it in another machine, | May 25 06:40 |
| Techrights-sec | edit the file and then return it and boot | May 25 06:40 |
| Techrights-sec | maybe copy the data over to the clone and use that? | May 25 06:43 |
| schestowitz-TR | ok | May 25 06:44 |
| schestowitz-TR | well, the clone is out od date | May 25 06:44 |
| schestowitz-TR | and the approch does not solve the issue | May 25 06:44 |
| schestowitz-TR | I may try to downgrade the kernel | May 25 06:44 |
| schestowitz-TR | it it does not seem too risky an approach | May 25 06:44 |
| schestowitz-TR | I have looked at config.txt | May 25 06:48 |
| schestowitz-TR | the options there do not allude to older kernel | May 25 06:48 |
| schestowitz-TR | I do not use a USB drive, I'm back to using the SD card | May 25 06:48 |
| schestowitz-TR | the goal is to boot into a state where wlan works again | May 25 06:48 |
| schestowitz-TR | (I did test wlan works if I boot into the USB clone) | May 25 06:48 |
| Techrights-sec | RPi systems are easier to replace than repair by swapping out the storage medium | May 25 07:16 |
| schestowitz-TR | I am going to try to run it close to me, with ethernet, headless | May 25 07:26 |
| Techrights-sec | ack | May 25 07:26 |
| schestowitz-TR | I have restored things one by one | May 25 07:58 |
| schestowitz-TR | soon the ipfs processes will be fully caught up with | May 25 07:58 |
| schestowitz-TR | nginx is failing | May 25 07:58 |
| schestowitz-TR | I don't know hy yet | May 25 07:58 |
| schestowitz-TR | *why | May 25 07:58 |
| schestowitz-TR | would you like to see the error it gives? | May 25 07:58 |
| schestowitz-TR | maybe a newer version of it was unhappy with configs? | May 25 07:58 |
| schestowitz-TR | I think when I did system updates it already restarted nginx as part of the process | May 25 07:58 |
| schestowitz-TR | [emerg] socket() [::]:80 failed 97: address family not supported by prtotocol) | May 25 08:01 |
| schestowitz-TR | OK, I think that the ipfs bits are ready to pick up now from the pi | May 25 08:11 |
| schestowitz-TR | the internal ip changed from 82 to 84 in D block | May 25 08:11 |
| schestowitz-TR | maybe some future system update will 'fix' wifi | May 25 08:11 |
| schestowitz-TR | for now, http/s, gemini and ssh route to the ethernet address | May 25 08:11 |
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| Techrights-sec | http://techrights.org/irc-archives/irc-log-techrights-240522.html#tMay%2024%2016:37:41 | May 25 08:28 |
| -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-techrights.org | IRC: #techrights @ Techrights IRC Network: Tuesday, May 24, 2022 | May 25 08:28 | |
| schestowitz-TR | my connection requires that I run the tc scripts on the pi | May 25 08:41 |
| schestowitz-TR | I changed ip=wlan to eth | May 25 08:41 |
| schestowitz-TR | but it than acts unhappyabout running the commands | May 25 08:41 |
| schestowitz-TR | as if they are only working with wlan | May 25 08:41 |
| schestowitz-TR | I guess eome other scripts alsdo make references to that | May 25 08:41 |
| schestowitz-TR | I also had to change internal references to the name of the mchine | May 25 08:41 |
| schestowitz-TR | whioch is not the same when it is on ethernet | May 25 08:41 |
| Techrights-sec | ack | May 25 08:42 |
| Techrights-sec | yes, but the wifi problem can be at the router posisbly | May 25 08:44 |
| schestowitz-TR | the upside is that there are now better fallback and maybe some time in the future the wifi issue will be | May 25 08:44 |
| schestowitz-TR | solved by system update | May 25 08:44 |
| schestowitz-TR | more iurgent that the geminiproxy/nginx, I need to figure out the traffic shaping | May 25 08:44 |
| schestowitz-TR | as my connecction is slow | May 25 08:44 |
| schestowitz-TR | and rianne's aloso | May 25 08:44 |
| schestowitz-TR | it looks like some kernel thing | May 25 08:46 |
| schestowitz-TR | as wlan is not even being loaded after the reboot | May 25 08:46 |
| schestowitz-TR | like a missing component | May 25 08:46 |
| schestowitz-TR | and it works ok with the old snapshot running off the sub stick | May 25 08:46 |
| Techrights-sec | ack | May 25 08:48 |
| schestowitz-TR | something in the OS itself has changed | May 25 08:48 |
| schestowitz-TR | I am so tired, been up since 2:40 | May 25 08:48 |
| schestowitz-TR | I just want to get tc right | May 25 08:48 |
| schestowitz-TR | and then take a break | May 25 08:48 |
| Techrights-sec | ack | May 25 09:00 |
| schestowitz-TR | going tito get much-needed sleep | May 25 09:01 |
| schestowitz-TR | losing health over it not worth iit given | May 25 09:01 |
| Techrights-sec | ack | May 25 09:01 |
| schestowitz-TR | that more critical things are unning again | May 25 09:01 |
| schestowitz-TR | the outage did not cause me as much trouble as the pi losing wlan | May 25 09:01 |
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| Techrights-sec | that's good news then | May 25 11:48 |
| Techrights-sec | that the outage was minimal | May 25 11:48 |
| schestowitz-TR | back | May 25 11:50 |
| schestowitz-TR | at the end there were two unrelated issues | May 25 11:50 |
| schestowitz-TR | 1) pi after updated | May 25 11:50 |
| schestowitz-TR | 2) 1.5 hours of outage | May 25 11:50 |
| schestowitz-TR | first such outage in 15 years | May 25 11:51 |
| schestowitz-TR | I was a lot younger when last experiencingf an outage that's not my own fault and fixable on the stop | May 25 11:51 |
| schestowitz-TR | rianne and I were like zombies, much better now | May 25 11:51 |
| schestowitz-TR | priority now is 1) fix tc (maybe kernel change is the culprit?) | May 25 11:51 |
| schestowitz-TR | s) fix the gemini-proxy or rather nginx | May 25 11:51 |
| schestowitz-TR | <techrights-news> Suffered my first electric outage (not caused by myself and immediately fixable in the fuse box) since more than 15 years ago! Shocking that the emergency line for this used a robot to pick up call. Emergency lines should send you directly to a person. | May 25 12:04 |
| Techrights-sec | ack | May 25 12:04 |
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| schestowitz | x https://www.computing.co.uk/news/4050185/microsoft-open-sources-adatest-toxigen | May 25 14:08 |
| -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-www.computing.co.uk | Microsoft open-sources tools to create safer language models | May 25 14:08 | |
| schestowitz | x https://www.techcityng.com/applications-open-for-the-microsoft-africa-development-center-adc-open-source-connect-for-developers/ | May 25 14:08 |
| -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-www.techcityng.com | Applications open for the Microsoft Africa Development Center (ADC) Open Source Connect for developers - TechCity | May 25 14:08 | |
| schestowitz | x https://www.computerworld.com/article/3661673/adobe-tightens-microsoft-integration-for-document-management-validation.html | May 25 14:10 |
| -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-Adobe tightens Microsoft integration for document management, validation | Computerworld | May 25 14:10 | |
| psydruid | Adobe trying to keep its friends relevant | May 25 15:04 |
| schestowitz-TR | shared crises | May 25 15:05 |
| psydruid | that's why I always disregard people's discounting GNU/Linux for not having Adobe and Autodesk products | May 25 15:07 |
| schestowitz-TR | I understand those people | May 25 15:08 |
| schestowitz-TR | some have worked for 20 years with these | May 25 15:08 |
| schestowitz-TR | they know no other way | May 25 15:08 |
| schestowitz-TR | they dee autocad | May 25 15:08 |
| schestowitz-TR | not windows | May 25 15:08 |
| schestowitz-TR | and some have used "Mac" for 20 years | May 25 15:08 |
| schestowitz-TR | so they see no other way | May 25 15:08 |
| schestowitz-TR | but that perception can change | May 25 15:08 |
| schestowitz-TR | psydruid: are you good at iptables and nftables | May 25 15:08 |
| psydruid | if you are flexible enough you can learn anything | May 25 15:08 |
| schestowitz-TR | Techrights-sec seems to be offline at the moment | May 25 15:09 |
| schestowitz-TR | yeah, but Techrights-sec spent a lot of time learning these, I spend 2 hours today in vain | May 25 15:09 |
| schestowitz-TR | I think we need to rewrite our traffic shapers | May 25 15:09 |
| psydruid | I worked for one of these CAD/CAM companies as a technical support | May 25 15:09 |
| schestowitz-TR | Debian decided to move to newer packages that are not compatible with old | May 25 15:09 |
| schestowitz-TR | I already had to fix 3 broken things | May 25 15:09 |
| psydruid | So I know what I'm talking about | May 25 15:09 |
| schestowitz-TR | or work around | May 25 15:10 |
| schestowitz-TR | technical support is awful experience | May 25 15:10 |
| schestowitz-TR | you get abuse | May 25 15:10 |
| psydruid | I haven't worked with iptables directly | May 25 15:10 |
| psydruid | That's why I eventually quit | May 25 15:10 |
| schestowitz-TR | the pi was forcibly reboot [sic] | May 25 15:10 |
| schestowitz-TR | we had the first such outage in over 15 years | May 25 15:10 |
| schestowitz-TR | I was joking to myself about Putler flicking a switch | May 25 15:11 |
| schestowitz-TR | just to "fuck with us" | May 25 15:11 |
| schestowitz-TR | but at 2:50am in summer power usage is very low | May 25 15:11 |
| schestowitz-TR | psydruid: yes, better even garden than handle people on the phone MORE so people who are ANGRY as something went WRONG | May 25 15:12 |
| psydruid | I used to set up Slackware with Shorewall for an easier interface to iptables | May 25 15:12 |
| schestowitz-TR | Now I don't even want to make a snapshot/clone of the pi | May 25 15:12 |
| psydruid | Most customers were nice, except for the French, who have no matters | May 25 15:12 |
| psydruid | manners* | May 25 15:13 |
| schestowitz-TR | because of all the things 'broken' with the latest patches | May 25 15:13 |
| schestowitz-TR | France has a reputation for it | May 25 15:13 |
| schestowitz-TR | not just in EPO | May 25 15:13 |
| schestowitz-TR | what a strange day it has been today | May 25 15:13 |
| psydruid | Sometimes they started cursing and I am the kind of person who treats others the way he is treated himself | May 25 15:14 |
| schestowitz-TR | pushing infra changes to git | May 25 15:14 |
| schestowitz-TR | let me put it crudely | May 25 15:14 |
| psydruid | Can you go back to a previous working state? | May 25 15:14 |
| schestowitz-TR | jobs suck | May 25 15:14 |
| schestowitz-TR | IT jobs suck more | May 25 15:14 |
| schestowitz-TR | an artilce in The Register 1-2 years ago | May 25 15:15 |
| schestowitz-TR | said something to the effect of | May 25 15:15 |
| schestowitz-TR | 90% of people in tech or IT or software | May 25 15:15 |
| schestowitz-TR | (cannot recall which) | May 25 15:15 |
| schestowitz-TR | dislike their job | May 25 15:15 |
| psydruid | I am considering non-IT jobs in the future too | May 25 15:15 |
| schestowitz-TR | the worst part is working on stress | May 25 15:15 |
| schestowitz-TR | like downtime, data loss, things breaking | May 25 15:15 |
| schestowitz-TR | that's when the health is also impacted | May 25 15:15 |
| schestowitz-TR | I woke up after just 3 hours of sleep, stayed up 6 hours | May 25 15:16 |
| psydruid | I know when I was working for that company I didn't even feel like staying in the workplace for lunch | May 25 15:16 |
| schestowitz-TR | until I decided that I fixed "enough" of the "more important" things | May 25 15:16 |
| psydruid | So I went home not to see or hear from anyone | May 25 15:16 |
| psydruid | And I put on weight because of the stress | May 25 15:16 |
| schestowitz-TR | makes sense | May 25 15:16 |
| schestowitz-TR | do not before close friend of colleague | May 25 15:16 |
| schestowitz-TR | or relationships | May 25 15:16 |
| schestowitz-TR | *become | May 25 15:16 |
| schestowitz-TR | need to separate the worlds | May 25 15:17 |
| schestowitz-TR | when I worked in burger king my girlfriend was a colleague | May 25 15:17 |
| schestowitz-TR | it's getting a bit awkward sometimes | May 25 15:17 |
| psydruid | I've always been pursued in the workplace, but held it off | May 25 15:17 |
| schestowitz-TR | psydruid: FURTHER (oops, caps) to main channel powwow | May 25 16:03 |
| schestowitz-TR | I mentioned you on the phone | May 25 16:03 |
| schestowitz-TR | to the man I spoke to | May 25 16:03 |
| schestowitz-TR | he worked in IT | May 25 16:03 |
| schestowitz-TR | found it stressful | May 25 16:03 |
| schestowitz-TR | now does power supplier stuff | May 25 16:04 |
| schestowitz-TR | the good thing here is, power cuts are avoided in crowded places | May 25 16:04 |
| schestowitz-TR | in bohol some people have had no power for 6 months | May 25 16:04 |
| schestowitz-TR | due to the hurricane | May 25 16:04 |
| psydruid | I think people in IT are undervalued, especially if they have degrees in CS | May 25 16:04 |
| schestowitz-TR | maybe there is an oversupply | May 25 16:05 |
| psydruid | you learn all this theory and these advanced skills | May 25 16:05 |
| schestowitz-TR | they moan about "shortages" to lower the salaries | May 25 16:05 |
| schestowitz-TR | by increasing oversupply | May 25 16:05 |
| schestowitz-TR | and not even training and teaching properly | May 25 16:05 |
| psydruid | and then you go into the workplace and do all kinds of boring things | May 25 16:05 |
| schestowitz-TR | shit like "AWS certification" | May 25 16:05 |
| psydruid | for which you don't even need the degree | May 25 16:05 |
| schestowitz-TR | yes, that's another issue | May 25 16:06 |
| schestowitz-TR | and it is why rianne and I want to leave our job | May 25 16:06 |
| schestowitz-TR | we lost some staff | May 25 16:06 |
| schestowitz-TR | so sometimes we do shit jobs of people who left | May 25 16:06 |
| schestowitz-TR | I already drafted something about going part time | May 25 16:06 |
| schestowitz-TR | at first about leaving | May 25 16:06 |
| schestowitz-TR | but I softened my stance | May 25 16:06 |
| schestowitz-TR | a friend read my draft yesterday | May 25 16:06 |
| schestowitz-TR | after speaking to the power supplier our address is registered like a business | May 25 16:07 |
| schestowitz-TR | so maybe we can live up to that | May 25 16:07 |
| schestowitz-TR | and do techrights full time, not that stupid job full time | May 25 16:07 |
| schestowitz-TR | more people need to do their own thing | May 25 16:07 |
| schestowitz-TR | but gov gives subsidies to very wealthy (graft) copmpanies | May 25 16:07 |
| schestowitz-TR | and they eat all the pie | May 25 16:07 |
| schestowitz-TR | the only way out of it is to not play their game | May 25 16:08 |
| schestowitz-TR | self-hosting is one | May 25 16:08 |
| schestowitz-TR | our company sometimes feels like resellers | May 25 16:08 |
| schestowitz-TR | we used to have our OWN RACKS in the office | May 25 16:08 |
| schestowitz-TR | now the media says everyone needs THE CLOWN | May 25 16:08 |
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| psydruid | I think we should try to change the system | May 25 16:11 |
| psydruid | The big problem is most companies siding with government and surveillance capitalism businesses | May 25 16:12 |
| schestowitz-TR | it is a marriage of convenience | May 25 16:12 |
| schestowitz-TR | gov, military, large companies | May 25 16:12 |
| psydruid | With the objective of keeping technical people out of top jobs and companies | May 25 16:12 |
| schestowitz-TR | spying and hoarding taxpayers' money | May 25 16:12 |
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| schestowitz-TR | now the energy copmpanies and food giants make huge profits | May 25 16:12 |
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| schestowitz-TR | having killed off the small shops drting pandemic | May 25 16:13 |
| psydruid | It's technologists vs business people | May 25 16:13 |
| schestowitz-TR | prices went up by a lot | May 25 16:13 |
| psydruid | And we should realize that | May 25 16:13 |
| schestowitz-TR | the other thing is demoting techs | May 25 16:13 |
| schestowitz-TR | because they are seen as a threat to the 'empty suits' | May 25 16:13 |
| schestowitz-TR | see EPO | May 25 16:13 |
| schestowitz-TR | bankers and politicians or MBAs at the top | May 25 16:14 |
| schestowitz-TR | no science | May 25 16:14 |
| schestowitz-TR | the scientists are treated like farmers | May 25 16:14 |
| psydruid | I'm in favour of reversing this situation | May 25 16:18 |
| psydruid | with scientists at the top and bankers and politicians at the bottom | May 25 16:18 |
| schestowitz-TR | but we need to organise | May 25 16:19 |
| schestowitz-TR | or unionise across firms | May 25 16:19 |
| schestowitz-TR | there are some movements | May 25 16:19 |
| schestowitz-TR | but too scattered | May 25 16:19 |
| schestowitz-TR | gnu helped coders as "hackers" do this | May 25 16:19 |
| schestowitz-TR | and bypass proprietary unix | May 25 16:20 |
| schestowitz-TR | so now there are optinos | May 25 16:20 |
| schestowitz-TR | bsd also | May 25 16:20 |
| schestowitz-TR | Techrights-sec: | May 25 16:27 |
| schestowitz-TR | aha | May 25 16:27 |
| schestowitz-TR | and we're back | May 25 16:27 |
| psydruid | Scientists are competing too much against one another for jobs and salaries | May 25 16:30 |
| psydruid | So yes, I agree about unionising | May 25 16:30 |
| schestowitz-TR | EPO uses "promotion" to create hostility | May 25 16:38 |
| schestowitz-TR | but the union points back at the real issues | May 25 16:38 |
| schestowitz-TR | which is not colleagues | May 25 16:39 |
| schestowitz-TR | but the dictators who plunder everyone | May 25 16:39 |
| schestowitz-TR | EPO is a "success story" for unions | May 25 16:39 |
| schestowitz-TR | I wonder if I should make a statement on today's service interruption | May 25 16:39 |
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| schestowitz-TR | the main issue is the Debian 11 kernel update | May 25 16:40 |
| schestowitz-TR | seems to have broken at least 4 services | May 25 16:40 |
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| psydruid | Yes | May 25 16:42 |
| schestowitz-TR | that'st the part I really hate about tech | May 25 16:42 |
| psydruid | This shouldn't happen in a "stable" release | May 25 16:42 |
| schestowitz-TR | it is stressful | May 25 16:42 |
| schestowitz-TR | tech needs to be judged by what happens when things go wrong | May 25 16:42 |
| psydruid | So standards seem to be slipping | May 25 16:43 |
| schestowitz-TR | like kids bullied into suicide in FB | May 25 16:43 |
| schestowitz-TR | or shamed into it | May 25 16:43 |
| schestowitz-TR | or when businesses lose a ton of data | May 25 16:43 |
| schestowitz-TR | or server suffer major breach | May 25 16:43 |
| schestowitz-TR | ransomware too | May 25 16:43 |
| schestowitz-TR | and people then skip a night's sleep | May 25 16:43 |
| psydruid | That's always my way of thinking | May 25 16:43 |
| schestowitz-TR | same for relationships | May 25 16:44 |
| schestowitz-TR | 'thehoneymoonisover" | May 25 16:44 |
| schestowitz-TR | so they say | May 25 16:44 |
| psydruid | Test for breakage instead of only proper functioning | May 25 16:44 |
| schestowitz-TR | as if marriage is just some long vacation | May 25 16:44 |
| schestowitz-TR | I even plugged in the usb clone | May 25 16:44 |
| schestowitz-TR | wifi was OK | May 25 16:44 |
| schestowitz-TR | I then used ethernet to bring everything up to date | May 25 16:44 |
| schestowitz-TR | checked old kernels | May 25 16:44 |
| schestowitz-TR | but that did not fix wifi | May 25 16:45 |
| schestowitz-TR | Techrights-sec told me to just throw it away and use the clone | May 25 16:45 |
| schestowitz-TR | as it would be faster | May 25 16:45 |
| schestowitz-TR | based on experience | May 25 16:45 |
| schestowitz-TR | with those types of devices | May 25 16:45 |
| psydruid | I had this with a Debian 11 install a few months ago | May 25 16:45 |
| schestowitz-TR | people used to say sound broke | May 25 16:45 |
| schestowitz-TR | after they had upgraded | May 25 16:45 |
| psydruid | I applied updates and networking stopped working | May 25 16:46 |
| psydruid | So I did a reinstall | May 25 16:46 |
| schestowitz-TR | to me, eth0 still works | May 25 16:46 |
| schestowitz-TR | I need to rewrite some scripts and stuff | May 25 16:46 |
| psydruid | As I couldn't be bothered figuring out what exactly went wrong | May 25 16:46 |
| schestowitz-TR | and it needs to be close to the router now | May 25 16:46 |
| schestowitz-TR | rianne and I are joking today that Putler is flicking the switch on and off | May 25 16:59 |
| schestowitz-TR | to feel how much power -- pardom the pun -- he has | May 25 16:59 |
| schestowitz-TR | I spoke for over 30 mins with the power supplier | May 25 16:59 |
| schestowitz-TR | the upstream one | May 25 16:59 |
| schestowitz-TR | got our addressed registered as "high priority" | May 25 16:59 |
| schestowitz-TR | I spent a coupld of hours messing with tc, seeing that we now use "deprecated" tools and commands | May 25 17:02 |
| schestowitz-TR | tried to work around that, as ipfs takes up the b/w at home | May 25 17:03 |
| Techrights-sec | did you try it with nftables | May 25 17:03 |
| Techrights-sec | ack | May 25 17:03 |
| schestowitz-TR | I reckon the commands can be converted to nftables | May 25 17:03 |
| schestowitz-TR | but do not know how | May 25 17:04 |
| schestowitz-TR | There are similar issues people have with RHEL 8 | May 25 17:04 |
| schestowitz-TR | and some compatibility fallbacks | May 25 17:04 |
| schestowitz-TR | like patches for the kernel | May 25 17:04 |
| schestowitz-TR | but in the long run using these tools will get harder | May 25 17:04 |
| schestowitz-TR | until rewritten | May 25 17:04 |
| schestowitz-TR | this is less of an iissue | May 25 17:04 |
| schestowitz-TR | I did fix the logger and the nginx stuff, pushed to git | May 25 17:04 |
| schestowitz-TR | so the only remaining PITA is tc | May 25 17:04 |
| schestowitz-TR | maybe some time in the future the kernel will pick up wlan OK | May 25 17:04 |
| schestowitz-TR | what complicates me fixing this is that I barely have a grasp of how the tc scripts work at the moment | May 25 17:05 |
| schestowitz-TR | but I reckon a mapping from one command to another would solve this | May 25 17:05 |
| schestowitz-TR | we vey much r ely on this for all tasks and computer | May 25 17:05 |
| schestowitz-TR | as the network is slow and ipfs is still useful enough | May 25 17:05 |
| schestowitz-TR | the issue with ipfs taking up a lot of bw is widely known | May 25 17:05 |
| schestowitz-TR | because it needs to scatter many copies around, that's the whole point of it | May 25 17:05 |
| Techrights-sec | the main problem with tc is that it runs on a host within the LAN rather than | May 25 17:06 |
| Techrights-sec | the LAN's router | May 25 17:06 |
| Techrights-sec | can IPFS be adjusted to not use more than a certain amount of bandwidth on its | May 25 17:06 |
| Techrights-sec | own? | May 25 17:06 |
| schestowitz-TR | I looked into it again this morning, with newer docs, but people suggest traffic shaping | May 25 17:06 |
| Techrights-sec | ack | May 25 17:09 |
| schestowitz-TR | we have long known that iptablkes is being phased out | May 25 17:09 |
| schestowitz-TR | and now there's an opportunity to future-proof the setup | May 25 17:09 |
| schestowitz-TR | The news is slow today, but I hardly slpt and my RSS feeds need cleaning | May 25 17:09 |
| schestowitz-TR | at least all key services are fully restored | May 25 17:09 |
| schestowitz-TR | inc. ones I did not push to git, like changing to the devices name | May 25 17:09 |
| schestowitz-TR | it now has two 'profiles', LAN Eth and WLAN | May 25 17:09 |
| psydruid | It's still inexcusable for such changes to take place in a stable distribution | May 25 17:16 |
| schestowitz-TR | yes, I mean.. | May 25 17:16 |
| schestowitz-TR | likle breaking apis and compatibility | May 25 17:16 |
| schestowitz-TR | with apt/apt-get update | May 25 17:17 |
| schestowitz-TR | not upgrade | May 25 17:17 |
| schestowitz-TR | just leave it the fuck alone | May 25 17:17 |
| schestowitz-TR | it works, it runs | May 25 17:17 |
| schestowitz-TR | no upgrades | May 25 17:17 |
| schestowitz-TR | maybe security fixes, that's enough | May 25 17:17 |
| schestowitz-TR | like nginx suddenly complaining about the config files | May 25 17:17 |
| schestowitz-TR | because the syntax that was OK before it's not "Emerg"(ency) | May 25 17:18 |
| schestowitz-TR | so the gemini proxy was down for like 9 hours | May 25 17:18 |
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| Techrights-sec | ack | May 25 17:25 |
| Techrights-sec | I should look at NFTables again soon. | May 25 17:25 |
| schestowitz-TR | thanks so much | May 25 17:28 |
| schestowitz-TR | we have two tc scripts that are called by gemini | May 25 17:28 |
| schestowitz-TR | at the moment they do nothing | May 25 17:28 |
| schestowitz-TR | they fail to run | May 25 17:28 |
| schestowitz-TR | fixing this is more to do with "convenience" (latency etc.) than uptime | May 25 17:28 |
| schestowitz-TR | afaik, I did fix or work around all the other issues | May 25 17:28 |
| schestowitz-TR | but I will babysit tonight's scripts in real time just to be sure | May 25 17:28 |
| schestowitz-TR | along the way on multiple machines at home we made things more robust in case of a next incident | May 25 17:28 |
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| Techrights-sec | ack | May 25 17:42 |
| schestowitz-TR | my energy provider is eager to protect what we have here in terms ofreisilience | May 25 18:08 |
| schestowitz-TR | the person I spoke to used to work as tech in telecoms | May 25 18:08 |
| schestowitz-TR | so the network side | May 25 18:08 |
| schestowitz-TR | BT uptime has been superb so far this year | May 25 18:08 |
| schestowitz-TR | no outages at all, just those annoying firmware updates without prior warnings, followd by IP address roll-over | May 25 18:08 |
| schestowitz-TR | at leasy my vague and basic understanding is that iptables is being replaced and phased out | May 25 18:08 |
| schestowitz-TR | for good, solid, factual reasons | May 25 18:08 |
| schestowitz-TR | technical reasons, not some corporation shoehorning vendor lockin | May 25 18:08 |
| Techrights-sec | ack | May 25 18:09 |
| Techrights-sec | yes and nftables is easier to use just it's missing the enormous wealth of | May 25 18:09 |
| Techrights-sec | (good, bad, terrible) tutorials | May 25 18:09 |
| schestowitz-TR | today's news is (so far) clean of Microsoft shitposts | May 25 18:10 |
| schestowitz-TR | so far... | May 25 18:10 |
| schestowitz-TR | so we can be offeensive with positive stuff, not "defensive" | May 25 18:10 |
| schestowitz-TR | <techrights-news> Spamnil headline 3 hours ago: "Your Much Loved macOS Linux Terminal..." Waaah??? "macOS Linux Terminal"? The kernel has a terminal? Linux is MacOSX? macOS? When clueless people are propped up by Jim and Sheela Zemlin... to attack tech (no spamnil has no tech skills) | May 25 18:11 |
| Techrights-sec | ack | May 25 18:12 |
| Techrights-sec | though Apple's, Microsoft's, John Deer's, and other's astroturfers have been | May 25 18:12 |
| Techrights-sec | active in framing Apple's repair kit in a way that attacks right to repair and | May 25 18:12 |
| Techrights-sec | tries to further erode the right | May 25 18:12 |
| schestowitz-TR | those are other battles | May 25 18:13 |
| schestowitz-TR | like Florian told me last month, better for us to focus on upc and epo | May 25 18:13 |
| schestowitz-TR | he tackles apple's abuses a lot these days | May 25 18:13 |
| schestowitz-TR | there are 3 people I know who write 24/7 about fight or right to repair | May 25 18:13 |
| schestowitz-TR | they can explain it a lot better than me | May 25 18:13 |
| Techrights-sec | yes, of course, but one to check on from time to time because it is increasingly | May 25 18:14 |
| Techrights-sec | crossing into software and with it licensing and, lately, into software patents | May 25 18:14 |
| Techrights-sec | yes, that too, however, the increasing misuse of patents and the incursion of | May 25 18:14 |
| Techrights-sec | software patents into the fight is sometign to be aware of and check on from | May 25 18:14 |
| Techrights-sec | time to time | May 25 18:14 |
| schestowitz-TR | maybe there are clips or portions of clips that can illuminate this | May 25 18:15 |
| schestowitz-TR | as expalined by other people | May 25 18:15 |
| Techrights-sec | good idea. I'll try to make note next time sw patents come up in one of the | May 25 18:15 |
| Techrights-sec | vlogs | May 25 18:15 |
| schestowitz-TR | very improbable I'll make videos today as the wind was out of my sails by 9am and I'm just trying to survive | May 25 18:17 |
| schestowitz-TR | as feed items pile up and we only posted 10 nodes in drupal so far today (usually it's about 50 per day), except weekends | May 25 18:17 |
| schestowitz-TR | I spoke to the nortjhwest power manager | May 25 18:19 |
| schestowitz-TR | and he said that for the router and the pit it makes sense to get a ups | May 25 18:19 |
| schestowitz-TR | as the exchanges run on backup batteries anyway | May 25 18:19 |
| schestowitz-TR | and a ups for small devices should be 50-80 pounds | May 25 18:19 |
| schestowitz-TR | if we have another ppoower cut, I'll go purchase something | May 25 18:19 |
| schestowitz-TR | the laoptops have batteries | May 25 18:19 |
| schestowitz-TR | all of them have working batteries, some last longer than others | May 25 18:19 |
| Techrights-sec | :/ | May 25 18:19 |
| Techrights-sec | problems like power outages will do that | May 25 18:19 |
| Techrights-sec | would a UPS for one or two of the computers have helped? | May 25 18:19 |
| schestowitz-TR | cost of ups ~ 4 hours of babysitting elephants in librewold | May 25 18:20 |
| schestowitz-TR | so we don't have to wake up colleagues | May 25 18:20 |
| schestowitz-TR | (for the NOC, which is useless if you work in the blind) | May 25 18:20 |
| schestowitz-TR | I reckon we'll live and operate like this for a llong time to come | May 25 18:24 |
| schestowitz-TR | given recent circumstances | May 25 18:24 |
| schestowitz-TR | hence renewing domain for 5 years as well | May 25 18:24 |
| schestowitz-TR | the savings alone can assure that | May 25 18:24 |
| schestowitz-TR | I've manually checked the gzx file this afternoion | May 25 18:24 |
| schestowitz-TR | those are the bread and butter of the sites | May 25 18:24 |
| Techrights-sec | ack | May 25 18:24 |
| schestowitz-TR | though the file system matters as well | May 25 18:24 |
| schestowitz-TR | with fibreoptics I'd have backups it up a lot more often rather than rely on RAID and on you | May 25 18:24 |
| Techrights-sec | I don't feel comfortable until problems with the filesystem are ru;ed out | May 25 18:25 |
| schestowitz-TR | yes, hence the need to reduce working hours | May 25 18:27 |
| schestowitz-TR | the time seems right | May 25 18:27 |
| schestowitz-TR | and we made the decision (final) even before the employer communicated anything | May 25 18:27 |
| schestowitz-TR | now we have excuse and opportunity | May 25 18:28 |
| schestowitz-TR | I already ponsoered years ago either passing to rianne or going part time | May 25 18:28 |
| schestowitz-TR | but the money was easy and I feared it would insult the boss | May 25 18:28 |
| schestowitz-TR | like "OK, I'm out, but plkease keep rianne in" | May 25 18:28 |
| schestowitz-TR | becaause it comes as a set | May 25 18:28 |
| schestowitz-TR | (when sareen was being a gas I threatened to quit and the boss reacted in panic sucking up | May 25 18:28 |
| schestowitz-TR | and staff; she was sacked shortly after that) | May 25 18:28 |
| schestowitz-TR | work politics is toxic shit that wears you down | May 25 18:29 |
| schestowitz-TR | working 9-5 and communiting fnished you, even if you could in theory, type away and blog 7pm to midmnight | May 25 18:29 |
| schestowitz-TR | you do not have the mental and emotional capacity anymore | May 25 18:30 |
| schestowitz-TR | it is a hidden enemy | May 25 18:30 |
| Techrights-sec | yep and those that don't do any work or anything constructive at all, sahy | May 25 18:30 |
| Techrights-sec | microsofters, have all the time in the world to wear down productive people | May 25 18:30 |
| Techrights-sec | with their politics | May 25 18:30 |
| schestowitz-TR | when getting older some people regret having been "budy making money" (they cannot even use up, just waste like "business c | May 25 18:31 |
| schestowitz-TR | class seats") when they could in fact use the time doing something personal | May 25 18:32 |
| schestowitz-TR | and at 40 you do start to wonder... | May 25 18:32 |
| schestowitz-TR | heck, you cpould be that "professional clock | May 25 18:33 |
| schestowitz-TR | "along the lines ofm "biological clock" (typically a feminine term) | May 25 18:33 |
| Techrights-sec | microsofters often run the clock out on projects, making them miss deadlines | May 25 18:37 |
| Techrights-sec | and fail through obstruction | May 25 18:37 |
| Techrights-sec | delay, and interference | May 25 18:37 |
| Techrights-sec | since they never get measure by the same criteria, they can fail all day | May 25 18:37 |
| Techrights-sec | every day and only get praised and promoted for it | May 25 18:37 |
| schestowitz-TR | and when all else fails, outsource | May 25 18:38 |
| schestowitz-TR | to places where they still retain some actual engineerrs | May 25 18:38 |
| schestowitz-TR | on borrowed money | May 25 18:38 |
| schestowitz-TR | because they lack a business model | May 25 18:38 |
| schestowitz-TR | too obsssessed with grabbing all the "share" ("market") | May 25 18:38 |
| Techrights-sec | oh, too bad, it was almost ready, if there had only been a little | May 25 18:38 |
| Techrights-sec | more time/money/upgrades | May 25 18:38 |
| schestowitz | Security mjg being pawned again (or pwn3d rather) | May 25 18:47 |
| schestowitz | I want to spend more time in irc if I spend less time on the job | May 25 18:47 |
| Techrights-sec | ack | May 25 18:48 |
| schestowitz-TR | <techrights-news> "The malware creates a working directory %TEMP%\\OfficeInit and copies to it INIT and cmpbk32.dll files, as well as a legitimate 32-bit Windows executable cmdl32.exe from either System32 or SysWOW64 folder, depending on if the operating system is 32 or 64 bit." https://research.checkpoint.com/2022/twisted-panda-chinese-apt-espionage-operation-against-russians-state-owned-defense-institutes/ | May 25 18:58 |
| schestowitz-TR | -TechrightsSocial/#boycottnovell-social- research.checkpoint.com | Twisted Panda: Chinese APT espionage operation against Russian’s state-owned defense institutes - Check Point Research | May 25 18:58 |
| schestowitz-TR | <techrights-news> "Filename: eset_ssl_filtered_cert_importer.exe SHA-1 hash: 796362BD0304E305AD120576B6A8FB6721108752 ESET detection name: Win32/Agent.AEGY" https://www.welivesecurity.com/2022/05/20/sandworm-ukraine-new-version-arguepatch-malware-loader/ | May 25 18:58 |
| -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-research.checkpoint.com | Twisted Panda: Chinese APT espionage operation against Russian’s state-owned defense institutes - Check Point Research | May 25 18:58 | |
| -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-Sandworm uses a new version of ArguePatch to attack targets in Ukraine | WeLiveSecurity | May 25 18:58 | |
| schestowitz-TR | -TechrightsSocial/#boycottnovell-social- Sandworm uses a new version of ArguePatch to attack targets in Ukraine | WeLiveSecurity | May 25 18:58 |
| Techrights-sec | ack | May 25 19:21 |
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| schestowitz-TR | <techrights-news> "Despite assurances by Eben Upton that there’s no supply shortage of Raspberry Pi CM4 modules for commercial and industrial customers, installations or projects requiring just a few modules may be out of luck. So alternatives are needed" https://www.cnx-software.com/2022/05/25/raspberry-pi-cm4-compatible-module-amlogic-a311d-cpu/ | May 25 19:47 |
| -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-www.cnx-software.com | Raspberry Pi CM4 compatible module coming soon with Amlogic A311D CPU - CNX Software | May 25 19:47 | |
| Techrights-sec | ack | May 25 19:49 |
| Techrights-sec | ack; not all the manufacturing can take place in Wales yet, and of course | May 25 19:49 |
| Techrights-sec | there is the matter of the components too | May 25 19:49 |
| schestowitz-TR | not computer enthusiats hoard components | May 25 19:49 |
| schestowitz-TR | car makers do | May 25 19:49 |
| schestowitz-TR | and of course CrankCoin people | May 25 19:49 |
| schestowitz-TR | but they are buying into duds that lack value or lose value very rapidly | May 25 19:49 |
| Techrights-sec | not the enthusiasts but the manufacturers of chips and other basic parts | May 25 19:57 |
| Techrights-sec | their not hoarding but are just not able to make enough | May 25 19:57 |
| Techrights-sec | scalpers are another problem and a big one which has popped up rather recently | May 25 19:57 |
| Techrights-sec | in response to the shortage | May 25 19:58 |
| Techrights-sec | people buy up units at the normal price and then auction them off for several | May 25 19:58 |
| Techrights-sec | times higher | May 25 19:58 |
| schestowitz-TR | data is the new aunflower oil :-) | May 25 19:58 |
| psydruid | it also depends on the types of chips | May 25 19:58 |
| schestowitz-TR | fish and chips | May 25 19:59 |
| schestowitz-TR | with sunflower oil | May 25 19:59 |
| psydruid | I think it's more important to get more smaller chips out there than these x86 monstrosities | May 25 19:59 |
| schestowitz-TR | made or farmed in ukraine | May 25 19:59 |
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