●● IRC: #boycottnovell @ FreeNode: Wednesday, November 25, 2020 ●● ● Nov 25 [01:06] schestowitz https://twitter.com/prettynoiselab/status/1331356321904431104 [01:06] -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@prettynoiselab: Looks interesting https://t.co/2EFq3caU1K [01:06] -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@schestowitz: #RaspberryPi 400 kit ships with 7-inch or 13.3-inch touchscreen display https://t.co/ASTQjxdVmd #Linux #GNU #Hardware #cnxsoftware [01:07] schestowitz https://twitter.com/PERRYFAM7/status/1331327525943988224 [01:07] -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@PERRYFAM7: @schestowitz Trying to get to 1k subscribers. Please check out our channel and subscribe. https://t.co/zfJEJa4LMm [01:07] -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell--> www.youtube.com | THE WHISPER CHALLENGE *EPIC CHALLENGE* - YouTube [01:07] schestowitz https://twitter.com/jcjames_ca/status/1331235418361229312 [01:07] -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@jcjames_ca: >> https://t.co/KS2PRdQPJ1 [01:07] -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@schestowitz: #EPO Management is Still Distracting From the 'Elephant in the Room' by Corrupting Media and #Academia https://t.co/rCXFOPfYDx [01:07] schestowitz https://twitter.com/at2rty/status/1331231961399091200 [01:07] -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@at2rty: @schestowitz the problem with washington is the idea that they understand they know / Reality: they exist on a pl https://t.co/n9io4Ch4ZY [01:07] -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@at2rty: @schestowitz the problem with washington is the idea that they understand they know / Reality: they exist on a pl https://t.co/n9io4Ch4ZY [01:07] schestowitz " [01:07] schestowitz the problem with washington is the idea that they understand they know [01:07] schestowitz Disappointed but relieved face [01:07] schestowitz Upside-down face [01:07] schestowitz / Reality: they exist on a plot that they fail to understand / result the collapse of america is now [01:08] schestowitz Disappointed but relieved face [01:08] schestowitz the master that is a servant [01:08] schestowitz Disappointed but relieved face [01:08] schestowitz " [01:08] schestowitz https://twitter.com/at2rty/status/1331231100337856515 [01:08] -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@at2rty: @schestowitz trump doing all it can to start a war / go home america leave the planet LET IT be Are you invad https://t.co/Np0FP0B3Ic [01:08] -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@at2rty: @schestowitz trump doing all it can to start a war / go home america leave the planet LET IT be Are you invad https://t.co/Np0FP0B3Ic [01:08] schestowitz " [01:08] schestowitz trump doing all it can to start a war / go home america [01:08] schestowitz Earth globe americas [01:08] schestowitz leave the planet LET IT be [01:08] schestowitz Hugging face [01:08] schestowitz Are you invading, or just lost? Russian navy threatens to ram US warship John McCain after it crosses border near Vladivostok RT Russia & Former Soviet Union [01:08] schestowitz " [01:08] schestowitz https://twitter.com/costrike/status/1331172760291209218 [01:08] -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@costrike: I don't think Joe wants a mandate, but let's get it and force him to use it. https://t.co/gajeWDeEaA [01:08] -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@schestowitz: NEWS #TheNation #Georgia #Trump Is Blowing Up the Georgia GOPand It Couldnt Happen at a Better Time https://t.co/BY19E4l43K [01:09] schestowitz https://twitter.com/glynmoody/status/1331171631096623109\ [01:09] -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@glynmoody: come on, dems, exploit this to the max, get those 2 seats... https://t.co/8eNldbfNVb [01:09] schestowitz https://twitter.com/AggrssvlyCreamy/status/1330934194093088768 [01:09] -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@AggrssvlyCreamy: @HahnThomsen @schestowitz @_lisha_love @wikileaks Wtf you talking about? Archaeology?You mean recent history? Do y' https://t.co/1XFi7kDrvt [01:09] -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@AggrssvlyCreamy: @HahnThomsen @schestowitz @_lisha_love @wikileaks Wtf you talking about? Archaeology?You mean recent history? Do y' https://t.co/1XFi7kDrvt [01:09] schestowitz " [01:09] schestowitz Wtf you talking about? Archaeology?You mean recent history? Do y'all consider the civil war the only history worth remembering? [01:09] schestowitz SAD! [01:09] schestowitz " [01:10] schestowitz https://twitter.com/andrewshitov/status/1330899091518263298 [01:10] -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@andrewshitov: @schestowitz Search results for the tag in your post returns a list of twits posted only by you. Why are you so ins https://t.co/C31Cl95aAi [01:10] -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@andrewshitov: @schestowitz Search results for the tag in your post returns a list of twits posted only by you. Why are you so ins https://t.co/C31Cl95aAi [01:10] schestowitz "Search results for the tag in your post returns a list of twits posted only by you. Why are you so insisting in changing how things go in the project?" [01:10] schestowitz https://twitter.com/liztormato/status/1330892230240980994 [01:10] -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@liztormato: @schestowitz Could you elaborate on what you mean with "a slave of #microsoft masters"? [01:11] schestowitz As long as the project is hosted in that proprietary software platform, it gives Microsoft monopolistic control over it (and things developed with it). The past is telling. [01:12] schestowitz https://twitter.com/MariusNestor/status/1330855169366650880 [01:12] -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@MariusNestor: @schestowitz [01:12] schestowitz https://twitter.com/jcjames_ca/status/1330853163046465537 [01:12] -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@jcjames_ca: @schestowitz RIP list - GitHub - LinkedIn - ZeniMax - Visio (no a loss) - Skype - Xamarin (not a loss) [01:12] schestowitz https://twitter.com/dawnbazely/status/1330850815247085572 [01:12] -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@dawnbazely: @schestowitz I will share this with my bazillion engineer relatives & colleagues. Dude raises some valid, though pe https://t.co/RS2MP0oV7u [01:12] -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@dawnbazely: @schestowitz I will share this with my bazillion engineer relatives & colleagues. Dude raises some valid, though pe https://t.co/RS2MP0oV7u [01:12] schestowitz " [01:12] schestowitz I will share this with my bazillion engineer relatives & colleagues. [01:12] schestowitz Dude raises some valid, though perfectly obvious, points in a divisive manner (for clicks, I assume) with an unpleasant mansplainy, pissing-contest, unnecessarily libertarian tone. [01:12] schestowitz " [01:13] schestowitz https://twitter.com/audiores/status/1330849268094144518 [01:13] -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@audiores: @schestowitz #usegitea #selfhosted https://t.co/m1bQOKkg0t [01:13] -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell--> gitea.io | Gitea [01:13] schestowitz https://twitter.com/marcusdelgreco/status/1330809533850148865 [01:13] -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@marcusdelgreco: @schestowitz Still amazes me the companies paying for these distros. [01:13] schestowitz https://twitter.com/zoobab/status/1330808033912512512 [01:13] -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@zoobab: @schestowitz In his death bed, he said "continue the fight!". Snif. [01:14] schestowitz we fight on [01:14] schestowitz https://twitter.com/audiores/status/1330643290484518912 [01:14] -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@audiores: @tuxmachines @schestowitz How is a #RaspberriPi #OpenHardware? [01:14] schestowitz http://techrights.org/2020/09/12/raspi-freedom/ [01:14] -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-techrights.org | Richard Stallman Still Works to Improve the Freedom of the Widely-Used RasPi (Produced in the United Kingdom by the Raspberry Pi Foundation) | Techrights [01:17] schestowitz https://pleroma.site/notice/A1XU0gSiqfZTNLYjwW [01:17] schestowitz " [01:17] -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-mas.to | RustedKitsune: "@schestowitz@pleroma.site the question is, does t" - mas.to [01:17] schestowitz the question is, does the 400 actually need a touchscreen? Would it be possible to implement a cheaper (and possibly more capable in terms of display area) kit without one? [01:17] schestowitz I guess my question is why are people obsessed with using touchscreens for everything when we all know that virtual keyboards cut your usable display area in half? [01:17] schestowitz " [01:17] schestowitz Such a keyboard lacks much needed finger feedback/touch [01:17] schestowitz https://pleroma.site/notice/A1XHtTJS8n6f7G1BlQ [01:17] schestowitz " If Hillary Clinton would support that youd barely find anything wrong about it (thank god Hillary does not)." [01:17] -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-kirche.social | Johannes Brakensiek: "@schestowitz@pleroma.site @favstarmafia@social.an" - kirche.social [01:18] schestowitz https://pleroma.site/notice/A1X8JmERQIplmRZw5A [01:18] -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-biribiri.dev | Pleroma [01:18] schestowitz " [01:18] schestowitz mostly cause it's what may are familiar with and it does have better compatibility in some areas. [01:18] schestowitz Really though, most should use Virtualbox or KVM. [01:18] schestowitz " [01:18] schestowitz https://pleroma.site/notice/A1X85ZDb0jgPMhPJx2\ [01:18] -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell- ( status 400 @ https://pleroma.site/notice/A1X85ZDb0jgPMhPJx2\ ) [01:18] schestowitz " is there any reason people use VMware?" [01:18] schestowitz https://pleroma.site/notice/A1X85ZDb0jgPMhPJx2 [01:18] -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-neckbeard.xyz | Neckbeard.xyz [01:18] schestowitz https://pleroma.site/notice/A1WyFylprcwZy5kUYi [01:18] -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-mas.to | RustedKitsune: "@schestowitz@pleroma.site and here I am, too brok" - mas.to [01:18] schestowitz "and here I am, too broke for a pinephone." [01:19] schestowitz https://pleroma.site/notice/A1WtodR0gNzoA1iJY8 [01:19] schestowitz "You can also report them to FSF." [01:19] -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-fosstodon.org | Someone: "@everlastingrocks@librem.one @schestowitz@pleroma" - Fosstodon [01:19] schestowitz https://pleroma.site/notice/A1WhbrmIqNz9Qoonbs [01:19] schestowitz " [01:19] -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-activism.openworlds.info | Dick Smiths Fair Go Supporters: "@schestowitz@pleroma.site Not to mention that whe" - Activism [01:19] schestowitz Not to mention that whenever Trump wanted to bring the troops home. The #establishmentMedia and #corporateWarpigs and so-called #democrats went bezerk creating narratives to stop him. [01:19] schestowitz It recently came out that Trump was lied to about the number of troops deployed in the #middleEast. [01:19] schestowitz Face it. The #coup has been the #military and #deepState against the POTUS. [01:19] schestowitz #Biden will invade #Venezuela within 1 year of office. The man is an #emptyVessel. [01:19] schestowitz " [01:19] schestowitz https://pleroma.site/notice/A1We8cbDtol05y015c [01:19] schestowitz " [01:20] -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-activism.openworlds.info | Dick Smiths Fair Go Supporters: "@schestowitz@pleroma.site That time when the #mai" - Activism [01:20] schestowitz That time when the #mainstreamMedia and #DNC did nothing. In fact when he bombed they gave him positive press, called him "#presidential" and celebrating "the beauty of our #weapons"? [01:20] schestowitz Its almost as though the #corporateMedia get $$$ from the #militaryIndustrialComplex [01:20] schestowitz oh they do. [01:20] schestowitz #Boeing #LockheedMartin #Raytheon #beautifulBombs #Syria #Iran #MICIMATTComplex #thinkTank #intelligenceAgencies #deepState #propaganda [01:20] schestowitz " [01:20] schestowitz https://pleroma.site/notice/A1WWI1x4D5L1hHBy88 [01:20] schestowitz " [01:20] -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-mas.to | adnan360: "@schestowitz@pleroma.site Didn't know about it. D" - mas.to [01:20] schestowitz @schestowitz Didn't know about it. Did a quick search and it seems Jobs also gave a condition to him to stop working on Linux and focus on their Unix system: [01:20] schestowitz > The condition: Hed have to drop Linux development. [01:20] schestowitz So unbelievable. He worked his whole life for this and they wanted him to stop working on it? That's completely the opposite of what career coaches teach us. [01:20] schestowitz https://www.macrumors.com/2012/03/22/steve-jobs-tried-to-hire-linux-creator-linus-torvalds-to-work-on-os-x/ [01:20] -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-www.macrumors.com | Steve Jobs Tried to Hire Linux Creator Linus Torvalds to Work on OS X - MacRumors [01:20] schestowitz " [01:21] schestowitz https://pleroma.site/notice/A1WVWxfSJvQUneVhYm [01:21] schestowitz " I hope it doesn't have those IME kind of stuff and supports libre drivers. If so, it's an amazing news. RISC-V is also getting closer to perfection." [01:21] -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-mas.to | adnan360: "@schestowitz@pleroma.site I hope it doesn't have " - mas.to [01:21] schestowitz https://pleroma.site/notice/A1WVWxfSJvQUneVhYm [01:21] schestowitz " I hope it doesn't have those IME kind of stuff and supports libre drivers. If so, it's an amazing news. RISC-V is also getting closer to perfection." [01:21] schestowitz https://pleroma.site/notice/A1WSZcnw2v8X6G3T8q [01:21] schestowitz " [01:21] -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-mastodon.uno | notanamber: "@schestowitz@pleroma.site In my opinion a good py" - Mastodon Italia Social [01:21] schestowitz In my opinion a good python framework, i don't know if it could be included in "Micro" definition is Tornadoweb. [01:21] schestowitz It has a apache 2.0 license... [01:21] schestowitz " [01:22] schestowitz https://pleroma.site/notice/A1VettQSxiNGjZY4Wm [01:22] schestowitz " [01:22] -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-fosstodon.org | Klaus J Zimmermann: "@schestowitz@pleroma.site exactly. In the end, th" - Fosstodon [01:22] schestowitz exactly. In the end, the true winner of the case wasn't #youtubedl, or the hacker community. [01:22] schestowitz It was #GitHub itself who posed itself as the knight in shining armor, the hero and savior of the hacker peoples [01:22] schestowitz I ain't buying it [01:22] schestowitz " [01:23] schestowitz https://pleroma.site/notice/A1VObiXh5auaV6Eyvo [01:23] schestowitz " I am interested in this since I listen and read The GNU Project's Software Patent essay. Dr, I ask reference for this one. Thanks in advance." [01:23] -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-floss.social | Ade Malsasa Akbar: "@schestowitz@pleroma.site I am interested in this" - FLOSS.social [01:23] schestowitz http://techrights.org/2020/10/19/oin-is-mia-again/ [01:23] -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-techrights.org | Ongoing (Albeit Secret) Campaign of Patent Extortion Against GNU/Linux Distributions Using Software Patents, Even Expired Ones in Europe | Techrights [01:23] schestowitz https://pleroma.site/notice/A1VNI87ECQMm4IxQS8 [01:23] schestowitz " [01:23] -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-social.coop | Marinus Savoritias: "@schestowitz@pleroma.site I think its a general " - social.coop [01:23] schestowitz I think its a general problem from people referring to Linux everything from android to alpine and Chromebooks to fedora and guix. [01:23] schestowitz You cant really describe any of these things as linux. Its more like a Posix derivative which depending what you are using is gnu, Google or LLVM/permissive licensing based. [01:23] schestowitz " [01:24] schestowitz https://pleroma.site/notice/A1UzCRYSc8VDikS132 [01:24] -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-cawfee.club | Pleroma [01:24] schestowitz "@replikvlt @fp @schestowitz *March... shit" [01:24] schestowitz https://pleroma.site/notice/A1UyrIc0fTMtu71q4G [01:24] -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-cawfee.club | Pleroma [01:24] schestowitz "@replikvlt @schestowitz @fp lowkey sad for girls, they're missing out on these challenges... luckily there's Milkies Mutilation Month" [01:24] schestowitz https://pleroma.site/notice/A1Uv7mn1ptHqJbmxPM [01:24] schestowitz " [01:24] -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-ms.neko.bar | (@replikvlt) | ms.neko.bar [01:24] schestowitz Omg I'm so excited for this!!!!!!!!!!!111 [01:24] schestowitz But nnn first [01:24] schestowitz " [01:25] schestowitz https://pleroma.site/notice/A1Uv1adA89EEroDeiW [01:25] schestowitz " [01:25] schestowitz don't worry, it'll be fap furiously february soon [01:25] -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-fuwa.pink | Pleroma [01:25] schestowitz https://github.com/dylanaraps/fff [01:25] -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-github.com | GitHub - dylanaraps/fff: A simple file manager written in bash. [01:25] schestowitz " [01:25] schestowitz https://pleroma.site/notice/A1Uv1aLnAjKlzw5mds [01:25] schestowitz " [01:25] -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-ms.neko.bar | (@replikvlt) | ms.neko.bar [01:25] schestowitz No Nut November File Maager!! [01:25] schestowitz Use it while it's still November [01:25] schestowitz " [01:25] schestowitz https://pleroma.site/notice/A1UcT2EDjTrZ9JvUCO [01:25] schestowitz " [01:25] -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-jorts.horse | garden center goth: "@schestowitz@pleroma.site sorry to pop in like th" - jorts.horse [01:25] schestowitz sorry to pop in like this but microsoft certainly does not control the linux foundation, LF is rich as kings off google, vmware (!!!), etc. just look at their platinum members [01:25] schestowitz dont get me wrong; they suck. but theres no single company in control. because then theyd lose their other members. and they cant say no to those checks. [01:25] schestowitz " [01:26] schestowitz http://techrights.org/wiki/index.php/Linux_Foundation [01:26] -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-techrights.org | Linux Foundation - Techrights [01:28] schestowitz https://pleroma.site/notice/A1TnFAh6Mg3Pgn4E5Y [01:28] -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-social.coop | L Murphy: "@schestowitz@pleroma.site Why is Vivaldi maliciou" - social.coop [01:28] schestowitz Why is Vivaldi malicious?" [01:28] schestowitz https://pleroma.site/notice/A1TZvs9ZmA6fHPqwvw [01:28] -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-libretooth.gr | PopeMuShen: "@schestowitz@pleroma.site Exactly. The crash wa" - libretooth [01:28] schestowitz "Exactly. The crash was coming no matter what, but what the pandemic exacerbated and put on display were the many failings of capital to provide even basic necessities." [01:28] schestowitz https://pleroma.site/notice/A1TZkO0PWZiWao5ZnU [01:28] schestowitz " [01:28] -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-floss.social | Ade Malsasa Akbar: "Testing GNU Jami on Trisquel 9 Video call and sh" - FLOSS.social [01:28] schestowitz Testing GNU Jami on Trisquel 9 [01:28] schestowitz Video call and share screen session works two ways between my phone and my laptop. Video and audio quality is excellent. [01:28] schestowitz Grab Jami here https://jami.net. [01:28] -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-jami.net | Jami [01:28] schestowitz Mentions: @Jami @redstarfish @strypey @lightweight @x @schestowitz | Tags: #FreeSoftware #GNU #Linux #Android #OpenSource [01:29] schestowitz " [01:29] schestowitz https://pleroma.site/notice/A1TTwRmIj0ec2hrCZE [01:29] -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-dobbs.town | :jrbd:: "@schestowitz@pleroma.site pretty sure its the lat" - DOBBS.TOWN [01:29] schestowitz "pretty sure its the latter but hey, what do I know?" [01:29] schestowitz https://pleroma.site/notice/A1TAsAyvKjZzf70l0q [01:29] -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-mastodon.elte.hu | Whisperity: "@schestowitz@pleroma.site Well, no restrictions, " - ELTE kzssg [01:29] schestowitz ""Well, no restrictions, play as-is, and if you want, go and support it however you want? I guess "PC" still means "Windows", right? No dice for Linux people, unless the community bands together and makes the appropriate install scripts, and perhaps cracks, available." [01:31] schestowitz https://pleroma.site/notice/A1RZyBVaOf1hZUKZ9c [01:31] -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-pleroma.site | pleroma.site [01:31] schestowitz " this is, incidentally, the first time i've ever had a PDU fail in production." [01:41] schestowitz > Ok. Looking ahead to the new system, should we go with Let's Encrypt? [01:41] schestowitz > Or are there better options? What about ZeroSSL [01:41] schestowitz > https://zerossl.com/pricing/ [01:41] -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-zerossl.com | Pricing - ZeroSSL [01:41] schestowitz > or others? [01:41] schestowitz I never heard of any of the others. First I want to see if we can migrate without issues. [01:46] schestowitz > I missed this on the first *and* second pass: [01:46] schestowitz > [01:46] schestowitz > *"I DO like the idea of only running non-free JS, incidentally"* [01:46] schestowitz > [01:46] schestowitz > That is definitely not what I meant. Can that please read: [01:46] schestowitz > [01:46] schestowitz > *"I DO like the idea of only running free JS, incidentally"* [01:46] schestowitz Fixing now, will finish after sleep. [01:46] schestowitz >"[Note: any HTML or punctuation in this article is meant to be displayed as source code, not rendered as HTML-- fortunately there is very little; it is mostly grouped together]" ● Nov 25 [02:00] *liberty_box has quit (Ping timeout: 256 seconds) [02:00] *rianne__ has quit (Ping timeout: 265 seconds) [02:10] *rianne__ (~rianne@host81-154-173-112.range81-154.btcentralplus.com) has joined #boycottnovell [02:10] *liberty_box (~liberty@host81-154-173-112.range81-154.btcentralplus.com) has joined #boycottnovell ● Nov 25 [03:48] *liberty_box has quit (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) [03:48] *rianne__ has quit (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) [03:58] *rianne__ (~rianne@host81-154-173-112.range81-154.btcentralplus.com) has joined #boycottnovell ● Nov 25 [04:00] *liberty_box (~liberty@host81-154-173-112.range81-154.btcentralplus.com) has joined #boycottnovell [04:34] *rianne__ has quit (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) [04:35] *liberty_box has quit (Ping timeout: 272 seconds) [04:58] *rianne__ (~rianne@host81-154-173-112.range81-154.btcentralplus.com) has joined #boycottnovell [04:58] *liberty_box (~liberty@host81-154-173-112.range81-154.btcentralplus.com) has joined #boycottnovell ● Nov 25 [05:04] *rianne__ has quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer) [05:04] *rianne__ (~rianne@host81-154-173-112.range81-154.btcentralplus.com) has joined #boycottnovell [05:05] *liberty_box has quit (Ping timeout: 272 seconds) [05:06] *liberty_box (~liberty@host81-154-173-112.range81-154.btcentralplus.com) has joined #boycottnovell [05:34] *liberty_box has quit (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) [05:34] *rianne__ has quit (Ping timeout: 260 seconds) [05:36] *rianne__ (~rianne@host81-154-173-112.range81-154.btcentralplus.com) has joined #boycottnovell [05:37] *liberty_box (~liberty@host81-154-173-112.range81-154.btcentralplus.com) has joined #boycottnovell ● Nov 25 [06:32] *rianne_ (~rianne@host81-154-173-112.range81-154.btcentralplus.com) has joined #boycottnovell [06:32] *liberty_box has quit (Ping timeout: 246 seconds) [06:32] *rianne__ has quit (Ping timeout: 256 seconds) [06:32] *liberty_box (~liberty@host81-154-173-112.range81-154.btcentralplus.com) has joined #boycottnovell ● Nov 25 [07:34] schestowitz Re: Fix the hashsum thing [07:34] schestowitz > That hashsum nonsense has stopped people from joining your forum for [07:34] schestowitz > *years* now. What is wrong with you people? [07:34] schestowitz > [07:34] schestowitz > I can give you a hash 224 for "HyperbolaBSD". It doesn't work. [07:34] schestowitz > [07:34] schestowitz > *I have also recommended people support Hyperbola for years. *I refuse [07:34] schestowitz > to mention Hyperbola again until this is fixed.** [07:34] schestowitz > [07:34] schestowitz > If you want your project to die because of a broken forum, go ahead. [07:34] schestowitz > [07:34] schestowitz > *I switched to OpenBSD FROM GNU/Linux for all my work, specifically [07:34] schestowitz > because it's the direction your project is headed in: GNU/BSD*. But I'm [07:34] schestowitz > not going to put up with this ridiculousness anymore. [07:34] schestowitz > [07:34] schestowitz > FIX THIS. IT'S RIDICULOUS. OpenBSD doesn't even have sha224: [07:34] schestowitz > [07:34] schestowitz > ls /bin/sha* [07:34] schestowitz > /bin/sha1 [07:34] schestowitz > /bin/sha256 [07:34] schestowitz > /bin/sha512 [07:34] schestowitz > [07:34] schestowitz > # pkg_info -a -Q sha | grep 224 [07:34] schestowitz > # [07:34] schestowitz > [07:34] schestowitz > This is a pretty stupid hill for Hyperbola to decide to die on. [07:34] schestowitz > [07:35] schestowitz > ec4015b39afb62e64693474682df63b3620791db7106db0f45ed345f [07:35] schestowitz > [07:35] schestowitz > [07:35] schestowitz > ec4015b39afb62e64693474682df63b3620791db7106db0f45ed345f [07:35] schestowitz > Too many people assume I have the patience to tolerate not weeks, not [07:35] schestowitz > months, but literal YEARS worth of their punch-yourself stupid bullshit. [07:35] schestowitz > [07:35] schestowitz > This seems to include everyone involved with creating "free software". [07:35] schestowitz > [07:35] schestowitz > If all you do is break shit, and you don't fix half of what you break, [07:35] schestowitz > you're a fucking menace-- just stop. You're only making shit worse. [07:57] *liberty_box has quit (Ping timeout: 256 seconds) [07:58] *rianne_ has quit (Ping timeout: 260 seconds) ● Nov 25 [08:07] *rianne_ (~rianne@host81-154-173-112.range81-154.btcentralplus.com) has joined #boycottnovell [08:08] schestowitz http://patentblog.kluweriplaw.com/2020/11/20/upca-ratification-bill-progresses-in-german-bundestag-academics-upc-not-the-best-solution-for-europe-and-for-innovation/ [08:08] -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-patentblog.kluweriplaw.com | UPCA ratification bill progresses in German Bundestag - Academics: UPC not the best solution for Europe and for innovation - Kluwer Patent Blog [08:08] schestowitz " [08:08] schestowitz When looking at the problems of the UPC is experiencing with respect of EU Law, it could be useful to remember the way which led to the EPC. [08:08] schestowitz It should be remembered that the negotiations for a Community Patent started in the sixties, but ended after four drafts due to the lack of unanimity of the then contracting states of the European Community. It is only the threat of the PCT which brought the Europeans back to the negotiation table. [08:08] schestowitz In order to overcome the locked situation it was then decided to separate the grant procedure from the enforcement procedure. We ended then with the Munich Convention of 1973 as an open convention and the Luxembourg Convention of 1975 as a closed convention. [08:08] schestowitz We all know what happened with the Luxembourg Conference. The UPCA is no more than a revival, for whatever reason, of the Luxembourg Conference. But the UPCA has the same problem as the Luxembourg conference: it is not a system valid for all EU member states, but merely the result of an enhanced cooperation. This is a first birth defect of the UPCA. [08:08] schestowitz In 1973, by separating grant and use of the title, the EPC could be opened to non-EU member states at the time, e.g. Austria and Sweden. Being an open convention, trying to link it with the EU end up with the problems we presently experience with the relation between EPC and UP within the EU. As soon as a patent becomes an asset within the EU, EU law plays a role. [08:08] schestowitz As the EPO is totally independent from the EU it is not bound to respect the EU law. As long as there is an opt-out, the problem is not so stringent. It becomes much more stringent after the end of the opt-out period as all EP granted and validated in the EU become UP will end up before the UPC, so that the problems cannot be swept under the table. [08:08] schestowitz In this respect the FFII has a point. The problem is not the grant of software patents or of patents relating to CII but a real constitutional problem. Trying to bring both system in coherence with each other leads necessarily to quasi insurmountable problems. With EPLA, the opinion of the CJEU has been required with the result we all know. [08:08] schestowitz It is interesting to note that the promotors of the UPCA have never wanted the CJEU to have a look on the UPCA. Trying to get a connection between the EPC and the UPCA by merely allowing prejudicial questions to be brought to the CJEU might not be enough. This can be considered as a second birth defect of the UPC. [08:08] schestowitz In this respect, the papers published by the UCL and signed by many IP law professors put the finger on the right spot. If there is an absolute necessity for an EU wide patent, then it cannot be the UP as envisaged in relation with the UPCA. [08:08] schestowitz On the other hand, as the European Patent system under the EPC has been working quite correctly and after the decision of the CJEU on the exhaustion of patent rights, problems linked with exercise of the rights of granted EP in the EU were quasi absent. The low number of validations also contributed to the peaceful relation between the EU and the EPO. [08:08] schestowitz The problems of coexistence between the EPC and the legal rules of the EU can apparently not be overcome in the present situation. Overthrowing the whole EPO system, which was a real success story would be a waste of efforts and setting up a purely EU patent office would not bring much and bring us all 50 years back. [08:08] schestowitz The only conclusion should be to bring the UPC to a rest in the same way as the Luxembourg convention was brought to a rest. [08:08] schestowitz In parallel real efforts should be made in order to make the Boards of Appeal of the EPO truly independent of the President of the EPO. May be the complaints before the GFCC will have this effect. [08:08] schestowitz The UPCA is actually the expression of vested interests seeing the big buck ahead. Those interests have taken the EU and its politician as hostages. It is therefore time to stop this non-sense. [08:08] schestowitz " [08:09] *liberty_box (~liberty@host81-154-173-112.range81-154.btcentralplus.com) has joined #boycottnovell [08:12] schestowitz http://patentblog.kluweriplaw.com/2020/11/24/the-epos-ride-from-patentamt-to-oktroybureau/ [08:12] -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-patentblog.kluweriplaw.com | The EPO's Ride from Patentamt to Oktroybureau - Kluwer Patent Blog [08:12] schestowitz " [08:12] schestowitz It is obvious that the EPO aims at making working at home a permanent feature of staff administration. Experience also shows that the Board of Appeals has followed the approach taken by the Presdent of the EPO in administrative matters. For example, the Boards have the same carreer system as the rest of the EPO: re-appointment on the basis of reporting which is unique for members of a judiciary. Why taking a different course for [08:12] schestowitz VICOs which are endangering the collegiate system. Honi soit qui mal y pense . [08:12] schestowitz Reply [08:12] schestowitz The girl from Ipanema [08:12] schestowitz November 24, 2020 at 11:00 pm [08:12] schestowitz Being a board member myself, the idea that worries me most is that before long the boards as such will no longer meet in a single location. Nowadays we often have lively discussions when deliberating, which makes the final decision much more reliable (no stone being left unturned), but this will not be easy when we see each other behind a screen, with all the inevitable technical trouble that comes along (and we have had some of [08:12] schestowitz that already in our VICOs, believe me). Now if the deliberation process suffers, the very heart of the appeal proceedings suffers. I fear that the quality of our decisions will decrease if the boards do not meet in person, face to face. Oh I know that the powers that be do not really care about quality, and that they see that VICOs can be so much cheaper. But in the end, our raison dtre is providing good, well-founded and fair [08:12] schestowitz decisions, and that will be made more difficult to achieve. [08:12] schestowitz Reply [08:12] schestowitz Fragender [08:13] schestowitz November 25, 2020 at 8:58 am [08:13] schestowitz When reading the EPO is using Zoom I was surprised. [08:13] schestowitz Of course, th EPO is immune, so they can use whatever they want [08:13] schestowitz But, since Zoom is critized for not following the General Data Protection Regulation, for lack of encryption etc., I was wondering: assume you would like to prevent a VICO, would it be possible to send your opponent a cease-and-desist-letter (Abmahnung) not to use Zoom professionally? [08:13] schestowitz Are patent attorneys, at least in Germany, bound by their professional duties not to use such a defective tool? [08:13] schestowitz Well, I guess Mr C couldnt care less [08:20] schestowitz "[CSC] Coronavirus pandemic - Postponement of reforms is necessary [08:20] schestowitz " In this letter, we urge the President to postpone his plans for reforming the Salary Adjustment Procedure until the pandemic is contained." [08:33] schestowitz Zentraler Vorstand [08:33] schestowitz Central Executive Committee [08:33] schestowitz Bureau central [08:33] schestowitz Dear SUEPO Members, [08:33] schestowitz Dear Colleagues, [08:33] schestowitz 13 March 2020 [08:33] schestowitz su20012cp 0.2.1 [08:33] schestowitz As we announced earlier, the General Assemblies that were planned in all sites for 10-03-2020 [08:34] schestowitz have been cancelled, and that we would be inviting all SUEPO members to a central electronic [08:34] schestowitz ballot to decide on the Action Plan SUEPO Central is proposing. [08:34] schestowitz Due to the special circumstances with respect to the corona virus and its evolution, we have [08:34] schestowitz decided to postpone the vote on the Action Plan. [08:34] schestowitz You may wonder why we however need to maintain the Action Plan? [08:34] schestowitz During the last two technical meetings wrt the salary adjustment procedure (SAP), the [08:34] schestowitz administration did not give any sign of moving an inch from their position towards a common [08:34] schestowitz agreement with the Staff Representation (SR), whereas SR made already several steps towards [08:34] schestowitz the administration showing good faith for honest negotiations and to work together with the [08:34] schestowitz administration aiming at meeting in the middle of the bridge in order to find the best and [08:34] schestowitz appropriate solution for Staff of the EPO while strengthening the financial sustainability of [08:34] schestowitz the office. [08:34] schestowitz Despite all effort made so far by the SR, the administration remains until now stubbornly stuck on [08:34] schestowitz a salary adjustment calculation, that does not correspond to a salary adjustment method as used [08:34] schestowitz in all international organizations. [08:34] schestowitz The administration proposes an arbitrary mechanism that will result in a continuous and long- [08:34] schestowitz term cutting of salary adjustments, resulting in a substantial erosion of your purchasing [08:34] schestowitz power and this without due regard to the respective economic circumstances. Such [08:34] schestowitz mechanisms are not fit for purpose. All attempts of your SR to propose salary adjustment methods [08:34] schestowitz that are fit for purpose, that will react to the actual economic circumstances, have been [08:34] schestowitz disregarded. It looks like the President is adamantly heading towards a social conflict. [08:34] schestowitz We will keep you posted on the outcomes of further meetings it is essential that you keep [08:34] schestowitz yourselves informed: also here the coronavirus is curtailing our opportunities to provide you with [08:34] schestowitz up-to-date feedback. At the same time, we will also keep on updating the Salary Simulator if and [08:34] schestowitz when we learn more details from the "method which the administration is proposing check it out [08:34] schestowitz for your situation to find out what our administration has in store for you. [08:34] schestowitz Last but not least, we will keep you informed also if we see the need to adapt the action plan to [08:34] schestowitz the circumstances. Meanwhile, all suggestions for appropriate actions are welcome. [08:34] schestowitz Most importantly: in any case, first of all take care of yourself and your loved ones in these [08:34] schestowitz turbulent corona-times. [08:34] schestowitz SUEPO Central [08:35] schestowitz [Electronic ballot for central action plan postponed .. Electronic ballot for central action plan postponed [08:35] schestowitz " - By providing your private email address, you give SUEPO permission to incorporate it in an electronic file, which will be used exclusively for sending you the personal access code and possible reminder(s) to take part in the survey. No further information will be recorded in the file." ● Nov 25 [21:27] *schestowitz has quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer) [21:27] *schestowitz (~schestowi@host81-154-173-112.range81-154.btcentralplus.com) has joined #boycottnovell [21:27] *schestowitz has quit (Changing host) [21:27] *schestowitz (~schestowi@unaffiliated/schestowitz) has joined #boycottnovell [21:27] *ChanServ gives channel operator status to schestowitz ● Nov 25 [23:28] schestowitz https://twitter.com/Sheikh_al_Touar/status/1331699219787378689 [23:28] -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@Sheikh_al_Touar: The European Patent Office Should be Run by Patent Examiners (Scientists), Not Politicians #scientists #politicians https://t.co/xm2Lcrg4Os [23:28] -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@Sheikh_al_Touar: The European Patent Office Should be Run by Patent Examiners (Scientists), Not Politicians #scientists #politicians https://t.co/xm2Lcrg4Os [23:29] schestowitz Sheikh it Sheikh it [23:29] schestowitz @Sheikh_al_Touar [23:29] schestowitz [23:29] schestowitz 2h [23:29] schestowitz The European Patent Office Should be Run by Patent Examiners (Scientists), Not Politicians #scientists #politicians #Europe [23:29] schestowitz The European Patent Office Should be Run by Patent Examiners (Scientists), Not Politicians [23:29] schestowitz Europe would be better off (and patent quality much improved) had people with an actual grasp of science and reality were in charge of the EPO, not a money-chasing kakistocracy (which is what we have... [23:29] schestowitz techrights.org [23:29] schestowitz Sheikh it Sheikh it [23:29] schestowitz @Sheikh_al_Touar [23:29] schestowitz [23:29] schestowitz 2h [23:29] schestowitz Things Will Get Amusing When/If EPO Proceedings Are Cancelled Due to Patent Trolls Suing the Platforms Using Software Patents (Granted by the EPO) #Memes #patents #Europe #swpats [23:29] schestowitz [Meme] Things Will Get Amusing When/If EPO Proceedings Are Cancelled Due to Patent Trolls Suing the... [23:29] schestowitz The management of the EPO is so proud to be granting illegal software patents in Europe; this clear abuse of authority can come back to bite it in the rear [23:29] schestowitz techrights.org [23:29] schestowitz Sheikh it Sheikh it [23:29] schestowitz @Sheikh_al_Touar [23:29] schestowitz [23:29] schestowitz 2h [23:29] schestowitz Dr. Bausch Questions the Merits and Claims of EPO Management Regarding ViCo (Skynet Virtual Courts) #law #videoconferencing #patents #Europe [23:29] schestowitz Dr. Bausch Questions the Merits and Claims of EPO Management Regarding ViCo ('Skynet' Virtual... [23:29] schestowitz Few courageous attorneys are willing to speak out about (and against) what EPO management is doing right now, in effect exploiting a public health crisis to override the law, spy on lots of people,... [23:29] schestowitz techrights.org [23:29] schestowitz Sheikh it Sheikh it [23:29] schestowitz @Sheikh_al_Touar [23:29] schestowitz [23:29] schestowitz 2h [23:30] schestowitz Lots of Good News Today #sitenews #patents #Europe [23:30] schestowitz Lots of Good News Today [23:30] schestowitz A quick roundup of news and key developments; most of them are positive and they give us hope [23:30] schestowitz techrights.org [23:30] schestowitz Sheikh it Sheikh it [23:30] schestowitz @Sheikh_al_Touar [23:30] schestowitz [23:30] schestowitz 2h [23:30] schestowitz Massive Collective Action Begins at the European Patent Office Today, Demanding Change and Forewarning the Management (Litigation) #Finances #Management #protest #employees #transparency #litigation #patents #Europe [23:30] schestowitz Massive Collective Action Begins at the European Patent Office Today, Demanding Change and Forewa... [23:30] schestowitz The financial "hoax" at the EPO (taking away money from staff to feed a gambling addiction of managers) needs to stop; staff has begun mass-mailing the management, threatening legal action [23:30] schestowitz techrights.org [23:30] schestowitz Sheikh it Sheikh it [23:30] schestowitz @Sheikh_al_Touar [23:30] schestowitz [23:30] schestowitz 2h [23:30] schestowitz EPO Management is Still Distracting From the Elephant in the Room by Corrupting Media and Academia #media #Management #deception #patents #Europe [23:30] schestowitz EPO Management is Still Distracting From the 'Elephant in the Room' by Corrupting Media and Academia [23:30] schestowitz Under the EPO's dictatorship the law is being routinely violated; in order for the public to not pay attention or receive mixed messages (resulting in confusion) the EPO is manufacturing so-called... [23:30] schestowitz techrights.org [23:30] schestowitz Sheikh it Sheikh it [23:30] schestowitz @Sheikh_al_Touar [23:30] schestowitz [23:30] schestowitz 2h [23:30] schestowitz EPOs Central Staff Committee on Latest Meeting With Office Dictator: No Meaningful Discussion Could Take Place. #Finance #patents #Europe #Union #employees #Management #Leaders [23:30] schestowitz EPO's Central Staff Committee on Latest Meeting With Office Dictator: No Meaningful Discussion... [23:30] schestowitz Whilst allegedly preparing legal action the staff representatives at the EPO report on the lack of progress after so-called 'dialogues' (merely a false impression of consultation) [23:30] schestowitz techrights.org [23:30] schestowitz Dr. Roy Schestowitz () [23:30] schestowitz @schestowitz [23:30] schestowitz [23:30] schestowitz 3h [23:30] schestowitz With December around the corner and states tightening the screws on the popul [23:32] schestowitz https://twitter.com/jcjames_ca/status/1331724570177523712 [23:32] -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@jcjames_ca: What do we want from our technology? - We want the right to change providers. - We want the right to protect person https://t.co/dOkhjV1D0R [23:32] -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@jcjames_ca: What do we want from our technology? - We want the right to change providers. - We want the right to protect person https://t.co/dOkhjV1D0R [23:32] schestowitz " [23:32] schestowitz What do we want from our technology? [23:32] schestowitz - We want the right to change providers. [23:32] schestowitz - We want the right to protect personal data. [23:32] schestowitz - We want the right to verify. [23:32] schestowitz - We want the right to not be tracked. [23:32] schestowitz - We want the right to access. [23:32] schestowitz " [23:32] schestowitz https://twitter.com/jcjames_ca/status/1331705819046563846 [23:32] -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@jcjames_ca: With the help of Trump ? Most certainly with the help of every last one of the neoliberal politicians, be them nati https://t.co/Fm9ab7OJuf [23:32] -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@jcjames_ca: With the help of Trump ? Most certainly with the help of every last one of the neoliberal politicians, be them nati https://t.co/Fm9ab7OJuf [23:32] schestowitz " [23:32] schestowitz With the help of Trump ? [23:32] schestowitz Most certainly with the help of every last one of the neoliberal politicians, be them nationalists or globalists. [23:32] schestowitz " [23:32] schestowitz https://twitter.com/jejesjesijessi/status/1331697243758469125 [23:32] -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@jejesjesijessi: country of racist, nicotine reeking goblins https://t.co/CDJhU8QX9N [23:32] -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@schestowitz: NEWS #CommonDreams #france 'Brutal and Shocking': Outrage After #Paris #Police Violently Evict Hundreds of M https://t.co/c1AcFAJNQA [23:33] schestowitz https://twitter.com/buddyhaskell11/status/1331696118133104640 [23:33] -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@buddyhaskell11: @schestowitz I think he made have faked it for an excuse not to have be at that chit show with Guliyahoo and Co. [23:33] schestowitz https://twitter.com/jcjames_ca/status/1331654269200642048 [23:33] -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@jcjames_ca: @schestowitz The thing is as long as our phantasms are not enacted in the concrete world, they only are phantasms. https://t.co/HpNOluohgF [23:33] -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@jcjames_ca: @schestowitz The thing is as long as our phantasms are not enacted in the concrete world, they only are phantasms. https://t.co/HpNOluohgF [23:33] schestowitz "The thing is as long as our phantasms are not enacted in the concrete world, they only are phantasms. Will we be ruled by our phantasms ?" [23:34] schestowitz https://twitter.com/jcjames_ca/status/1331648267738902530 [23:34] -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@jcjames_ca: You mean like for Remdesivir, the Great Reset, the Great Listen, the Great America (Again), etc. ? Clearly, we are https://t.co/zg9hv11Xf2 [23:34] -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@jcjames_ca: You mean like for Remdesivir, the Great Reset, the Great Listen, the Great America (Again), etc. ? Clearly, we are https://t.co/zg9hv11Xf2 [23:34] schestowitz " [23:34] schestowitz You mean like for Remdesivir, the Great Reset, the Great Listen, the Great America (Again), etc. ? [23:34] schestowitz Clearly, we are not out of the wood... [23:34] schestowitz " [23:34] schestowitz https://twitter.com/csolisr/status/1331627747823800321 [23:34] -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@csolisr: @schestowitz I'm currently waiting for the 6700/6600 to be announced. Better Linux support and raytracing are all I'm waiting for [23:34] schestowitz https://twitter.com/Xekola/status/1331567980677918725 [23:34] -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@Xekola: This industry destroys the planet, poisons us, assassinates activists; by all means, the owners should be captured, https://t.co/xfe9GGTJ11 [23:34] -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@Xekola: This industry destroys the planet, poisons us, assassinates activists; by all means, the owners should be captured, https://t.co/xfe9GGTJ11 [23:34] schestowitz "This industry destroys the planet, poisons us, assassinates activists; by all means, the owners should be captured, jailed and put on trial, the power plants seized, occupied and collectivised with an agenda of eco-restoration and carbon-free energy source on top. All else is BS." [23:35] schestowitz https://twitter.com/liztormato/status/1331539060469485568 [23:35] -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@liztormato: @schestowitz And how would that control be different when using a platform such as GitLab? [23:35] schestowitz self-hosted [23:35] schestowitz https://twitter.com/SleepyPenguin1/status/1331537015687565312 [23:35] -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@SleepyPenguin1: I'm sure that they will get this completely wrong @schestowitz https://t.co/EFu3tPt2ia [23:35] -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@pressgazette: MPs seek to make teaching children about online misinformation compulsory at schools https://t.co/W3Q0yzKRjk [23:36] schestowitz https://twitter.com/jamesabernard/status/1331533141807284227 [23:36] -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@jamesabernard: @schestowitz As ubports and neon-kde for the pinephone are Ubuntu based, this would include them? [23:37] schestowitz https://twitter.com/zoobab/status/1331504403656929282 [23:37] -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@zoobab: @schestowitz "Continue le combat" https://t.co/8GUt0MGLX0 Love this song [23:37] -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell--> www.youtube.com | Jeanne Mas - Toute Premire Fois [1984] - YouTube