●● IRC: #boycottnovell @ Techrights IRC Network: Saturday, March 26, 2022 ●● ● Mar 26 [01:51] *wallacer has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [01:51] *wallacer (~quassel@6bsu33ajs4zs4.irc) has joined #boycottnovell ● Mar 26 [04:02] *Despatche has quit (Quit: Read error: Connection reset by deer) [04:18] *DaemonFC has quit (Quit: Leaving) [04:52] schestowitz-TR I have added 5 files from fig.. to git [04:52] schestowitz-TR I think we are in good terems again [04:52] schestowitz-TR but he can be unpredictable ● Mar 26 [06:54] Techrights-sec maybe relevant: https://www.theverge.com/2022/3/25/22995144/microsoft-foreign-corrupt-practices-bribery-whistleblower-contractin [06:54] Techrights-sec g [06:54] Techrights-sec s/knew to/new to/ [06:54] Techrights-sec "The actual technical progress made since then is nearly zero." by whom and [06:54] -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-www.theverge.com | Microsoft is tied to hundreds of millions of dollars in foreign bribes, whistleblower alleges - The Verge [06:54] Techrights-sec which turning point? [06:55] schestowitz-TR I wanted to say last night,m [06:55] schestowitz-TR could you pick up as many links as possible inc. the Verge one? [06:55] schestowitz-TR I catalogue these under tuxmachines [06:55] schestowitz-TR and will be linking to these a lot in the future [06:55] schestowitz-TR I corrected the typo [06:55] schestowitz-TR I'm not sure if you ask me to clarify further on progress [06:56] schestowitz-TR draft [06:56] Techrights-sec Yes that assertion needs clarification as to which progress and who should have [06:56] Techrights-sec been making it. [06:57] schestowitz-TR maybe you can put that in your own words for me to quote? ● Mar 26 [07:02] *u-amarsh04 (~amarsh04@v6xmmrhxmbafc.irc) has joined #boycottnovell [07:02] *u-amarsh04 (~amarsh04@joseon-rmogvn.g0d7.dtdf.mc4289.IP) has joined #boycottnovell [07:13] Techrights-sec Note, the above link only addresses /foreign/ bribes. Domestic bribery is [07:13] Techrights-sec probably off the scale [07:13] Techrights-sec I have not seen the video so I cannot summarize [07:14] schestowitz-TR the reports likely allude to a particular law, which says "foreign" [07:14] schestowitz-TR so that may not preclude domestic [07:14] schestowitz-TR we covered this in relation to EPO [07:18] Techrights-sec https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Charlie_Wilson%27s_War:_The_Extraordinary_Story_of_the_Largest_Covert_Operation_in_History [07:18] Techrights-sec covers some of the methods and motives likely used for the /foreign/ bribery [07:18] Techrights-sec ^book, /not/ movie [07:18] -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-en.wikipedia.org | Charlie Wilson's War: The Extraordinary Story of the Largest Covert Operation in History - Wikipedia ● Mar 26 [08:10] *u-amarsh04 has quit (Quit: Konversation terminated!) [08:10] *u-amarsh04 has quit (Quit: Konversation terminated!) [08:22] *u-amarsh04 (~amarsh04@joseon-rmogvn.g0d7.dtdf.mc4289.IP) has joined #boycottnovell [08:22] *u-amarsh04 (~amarsh04@v6xmmrhxmbafc.irc) has joined #boycottnovell ● Mar 26 [09:17] Techrights-sec The shortcomings in TheVerge's article include downplaying the extent of the [09:17] Techrights-sec corruption. Also although Hungary is mentioned, Russia and Pakistan are omittomitted. [09:18] schestowitz-TR if it were up to me, TheVerge would be excludeed like The Guardian. Both are in Bill's bag. [09:19] schestowitz-TR having said that, I want to '\bag' as many narticles about this as possible [09:19] schestowitz-TR those will be handy for years to come [09:19] schestowitz-TR as the source is not just an insider [09:19] schestowitz-TR but a high-level one [09:19] schestowitz-TR and the way Microsoft responded [09:19] schestowitz-TR only vidicates him [09:19] schestowitz-TR so if you can find more or better articles, I'll add to TM [09:19] schestowitz-TR it also helps me call Microsofters what they are [09:19] schestowitz-TR criminalks [09:21] Techrights-sec yes, without bribery and other illegal more cult-like behaviors M$ products [09:21] Techrights-sec would have disappeared from the market long ago despit the pentagon's ongoing [09:21] Techrights-sec overt and covert support [09:35] Techrights-sec looking, but unlikely to find others [09:35] Techrights-sec theverge's article is rather soft on M$ [09:35] Techrights-sec https://www.business-standard.com/article/companies/microsoft-paying-hundreds-of-millions-in-bribes-claims-whistleblower-1220326 [09:35] Techrights-sec 00217_1.html [09:35] Techrights-sec https://www.ibtimes.com/whistleblower-says-he-lost-job-microsoft-exposing-200-million-foreign-bribe-scandal-3451341 [09:35] Techrights-sec The Foreign Corrupt Practices Act (FCPA) compartmentalizes the domestic bribery [09:35] -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-www.business-standard.com | Company News: Company Business News, Indian Companies News, Company Analysis, Corporate Industry News [09:35] Techrights-sec and corruption and allows full distraction from it. [09:35] -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-www.ibtimes.com | Whistleblower Says He Lost Job At Microsoft For Exposing $200 Million Foreign Bribe Scandal [09:35] Techrights-sec https://www.thurrott.com/microsoft/264805/microsoft-accused-of-violating-the-foreign-corrupt-practices-act-again [09:35] -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell- ( status 403 @ https://www.thurrott.com/microsoft/264805/microsoft-accused-of-violating-the-foreign-corrupt-practices-act-again ) [09:35] Techrights-sec "...again" [09:35] Techrights-sec https://www.lioness.co/post/microsoft-is-using-illegal-bribes-in-the-middle-east-and-africa-why-is-the-sec-turning-a-blind-eye [09:35] -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-www.lioness.co | Microsoft is using illegal bribes in the Middle East and Africa. Why is the SEC turning a blind eye? [09:35] Techrights-sec Elabd focuses on the middle East and Africa but EU, Russia, and North America [09:35] Techrights-sec are not without prodigious amounts of bribery and corruption in regards to [09:35] Techrights-sec m$ deployments. The Better Business Bureau, along with the SE and DOJ, side with [09:35] Techrights-sec M$ consistently instead of solving problems. [09:39] schestowitz https://www.business-standard.com/article/companies/microsoft-paying-hundreds-of-millions-in-bribes-claims-whistleblower-122032600217_1.html [09:39] -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-www.business-standard.com | Microsoft paying hundreds of millions in bribes, claims whistleblower | Business Standard News [09:42] schestowitz-TR I have just added these with caveats. [09:42] schestowitz-TR Those 3 links are better than nothing [09:42] schestowitz-TR in short, I'd say [09:42] schestowitz-TR don't blame the messsenger for how the media twiists things [09:42] schestowitz-TR he saw accounts in particular regisons, where he worked [09:42] schestowitz-TR the media might say things like, "you cannot know about other place" [09:42] schestowitz-TR "WHERE SI THE RPOOFF!!" [09:43] Techrights-sec Yes, and then once proof is provided, they respond by trying to dismiss the [09:43] Techrights-sec proof because of its 'age'. [09:43] schestowitz-TR this article is important because it discredit thew "age" comeback lines [09:43] schestowitz-TR Microsoft loves LINUX, y'know? [09:45] Techrights-sec However a lot of EU countries have very high levels of corruption but go to [09:45] Techrights-sec great lengths to fill out the right paperwork to hid it. [09:45] Techrights-sec Yes, a leopard can [09:45] Techrights-sec can't cchange its spots [09:59] Techrights-sec tldr; the problem is not limited to Russia, Middle East, and Africa [09:59] Techrights-sec but also, I strongly suspect, permeating all of the EU and Europe [09:59] Techrights-sec Furthermore while coming forward is a good thing, Elabd did actually work [09:59] Techrights-sec /for/ M$ and was used to spread its crap throughout large parts of the world. [09:59] schestowitz-TR like stamos and facebook [09:59] schestowitz-TR or that FB whistgleblower with the european name [09:59] schestowitz-TR better to take what we have from them ● Mar 26 [10:17] *DaemonFC (~daemonfc@3k4ymi6ae3w9e.irc) has joined #boycottnovell ● Mar 26 [11:25] *DaemonFC has quit (Quit: Leaving) [11:42] Techrights-sec ack [11:42] Techrights-sec About the M$ articles, the question remains unanswered as to why the [11:42] Techrights-sec SEC and DOJ are both continuing to turn a blind eye to M$ improprieties? [11:42] schestowitz-TR just got a new laptop, what OS to put on it? [11:49] Techrights-sec openbsd? devuan? [11:50] schestowitz-TR i worry openbsd would not be ok with things like webcam and some file systems [11:50] schestowitz-TR seems ok for a laptop not so primary ● Mar 26 [12:04] Techrights-sec WHen it works at all it tends to work very well. [12:04] schestowitz-TR what about fsf-