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[06:57]	schestowitz-TR	I am so baffled. The HDMI-connected screens are such a mystery sometimes; I had to reboot one machine after
[06:57]	schestowitz-TR	31 days. It's not my main machine. I cannot even EXPLAIN the PATTERN of when, how, why the screen (external)
[06:57]	schestowitz-TR	would come on or not come on... shuffled around many displays.
[06:57]	schestowitz-TR	Riddle me this... those DRM-friendly digital ports do NOT work the same way as the old ones... and as far 
[06:57]	schestowitz-TR	as I can tell they are very complex. ame for sound output. It's very "touch and go"...
[06:57]	Techrights-sec	Is the cable DRM-ed, too, then if so that would mean that it has a small
[06:57]	Techrights-sec	computer or maybe microcontroller in it which can be badly programmed 
[06:57]	Techrights-sec	and lock up periodically     
[06:58]	schestowitz-TR	This is the thing, it seems to have a "state" to it... like it can get "confused"
[06:58]	Techrights-sec	Can that state be reset by unplugging both ends of the cable?
[06:59]	schestowitz-TR	I don't know, but I am GUESSING the specs are proprietary 
[06:59]	schestowitz-TR	"open" only if you join some consortium
[06:59]	schestowitz-TR	I think BT and Wi-Fi are like that
[06:59]	schestowitz-TR	maybe for NDAs etc
[06:59]	Techrights-sec	openwashing as per usual in that industry
● Apr 26
[07:01]	schestowitz-TR	Either way, I am back to the same arrangement I had before, but I wasted more than 30 minutes getting there
[07:01]	schestowitz-TR	Now I try to OVER-compensate
[07:01]	schestowitz-TR	e.g. by finding some other perceived "improvements"
[07:01]	schestowitz-TR	I reckon 1 hour a week, on average, improving one's workflow is worth it if it is 1% of one's
[07:01]	schestowitz-TR	weekly "computer time"
[07:03]	Techrights-sec	How new is that monitor?
[07:03]	Techrights-sec	        
[07:03]	Techrights-sec	Do either that monitor or the cable have HDCP style DRM?
[07:03]	Techrights-sec	Hmm.  Then there should be no DRM in those.
[07:03]	Techrights-sec	HDCP -> Pluton -> TPM -> Restricted boot -> UEFI
[07:03]	schestowitz-TR	These monitors are all quite old
[07:03]	schestowitz-TR	Maybe except the one a friend gave me, might be from 2019 and VERY heavy
[07:04]	Techrights-sec	These monitors are all quite old
[07:04]	Techrights-sec	Maybe except the one a friend gave me, might be from 2019 and VERY heavy
[07:04]	Techrights-sec	HDCP -> Pluton -> TPM -> Restricted boot -> UEFI
[07:04]	Techrights-sec	Once the chain is forged to completion for "frivilous" data such as audio and
[07:04]	Techrights-sec	video then real file formats used for real work will get dragged into 
[07:04]	Techrights-sec	it and fettered.
[07:06]	Techrights-sec	yes HDMI does sound too; though the speakers are usually terrible quality on 
[07:06]	Techrights-sec	the monitors
[07:06]	Techrights-sec	It is certainly confusing th efirst time it occurs
[07:06]	schestowitz-TR	You do of course know about USBx and HDMI with audio
[07:06]	schestowitz-TR	I was VERY confused weeks ago when my source came to the monitor without me connecting it
[07:06]	schestowitz-TR	as the monitors do have standard "jack" too
[07:06]	schestowitz-TR	but kde neon tried to pass my sound via HDMI, IIRC by default
[07:06]	schestowitz-TR	which caused a temporary WTF moment
[07:12]	schestowitz-TR	years ago you did very important work studying kernel .git files for work towards DRM
[07:12]	schestowitz-TR	I think that, by design, this is hard a subject and they don't want people to
[07:12]	schestowitz-TR	understand what's going on and then explain it
[07:12]	schestowitz-TR	a lot of this happens in the shadows and we do not have their presentation slides
[07:12]	schestowitz-TR	I forgot the name of the NZ researcher (Guttenberg?) who in the Vista days spoke
[07:12]	schestowitz-TR	out about what the DRM grand plan might be
[07:12]	schestowitz-TR	back around 16 years ago
[07:12]	Techrights-sec	part of keeping the dirtywork out of side involves keeping what's left
[07:12]	Techrights-sec	of the press weak and distracted with "tweets"
[07:12]	Techrights-sec	https://www.grc.com/sn/sn-074.pdf
[07:12]	Techrights-sec	?
[07:34]	schestowitz-TR	 I will quit using Twitter. (26%, 12 Votes); I will continue to use Twitter, but I don't like it. (28%, 13 Votes); I use Twitter and I don't care one way or the other. (11%, 5 votes) https://fossforce.com/2022/04/take-our-poll-on-elon-musks-twitter-deal/
[07:34]		-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-fossforce.com | Take Our Poll on Elon Musk's Twitter Deal - FOSS Force
[07:34]	Techrights-sec	https://www.cs.auckland.ac.nz/~pgut001/pubs/vista_cost.html
[07:34]	Techrights-sec	??
[07:34]		-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-www.cs.auckland.ac.nz | A Cost Analysis of Windows Vista Content Protection
[07:34]	schestowitz-TR	yes, this is the one
[07:39]	Techrights-sec	https://web.archive.org/web/20060813140818/http://www.informationweek.com/news/showArticle.jhtml?articleID=19100040
[07:39]	Techrights-sec	8
[07:39]	Techrights-sec	https://web.archive.org/web/20060822100511/http://www.informationweek.com/news/showArticle.jhtml?articleID=19100040
[07:39]	Techrights-sec	8
[07:39]	Techrights-sec	http://www.informationweek.com/news/showArticle.jhtml?articleID=191000408&pgno=2&queryText=
[07:39]	Techrights-sec	https://web.archive.org/web/20060822100527/http://www.informationweek.com/news/showArticle.jhtml?articleID=191000408&pgno=3&queryText=
[07:39]		-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-web.archive.org | InformationWeek, serving the information needs of the Business Technology Community
[07:39]		-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-InformationWeek, serving the information needs of the Business Technology Community
[07:39]		-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-web.archive.org | Opinion: Apple's Copy Protection Isn't Just Bad For Consumers, It's Bad For Business - News by InformationWeek
[07:40]	schestowitz-TR	on the www/net, history vanishes fast
[07:40]	schestowitz-TR	this benefits those who have the financial means to pick winners or losers
[07:40]	schestowitz-TR	like who or what can financiallyu/viably stay online
[07:40]	Techrights-sec	yes that is on purpose :(
[07:46]	Techrights-sec	I wonder if Cory has made his own archive of past talks and articles?
[07:46]	Techrights-sec	https://web.archive.org/web/20040627074939/http://www.dashes.com/anil/stuff/doctorow-drm-ms.html
[07:46]	Techrights-sec	DRM is about ideology not business or technology
[07:46]	Techrights-sec	Even the sites which stay online have purged their old articles several times
[07:46]	Techrights-sec	by now so that not only do old links not work but the actual articles no longer
[07:46]		-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-web.archive.org | Cory Doctorow: Microsoft Research DRM talk
[07:46]	Techrights-sec	exist.    
[07:46]	Techrights-sec	CMS changes can be compensated with Apache2's redirection engine so while
[07:46]	Techrights-sec	the articles can be at a new URL, the old URL should still be able to 
[07:46]	Techrights-sec	redirect to the new address.  It is a matter of will.  The effort and cost
[07:46]	Techrights-sec	in setting that up is rather low.
[07:46]	schestowitz-TR	sometimes cms can change, sending the old articles into some abyss
[07:46]	schestowitz-TR	and links to these break
[07:46]	schestowitz-TR	wikipedia is getting filled with 404s and Web Archive URLs in the references
[07:46]	schestowitz-TR	you are talking like a geek, not like a manager
[07:46]	schestowitz-TR	managers do not care about history
[07:46]	schestowitz-TR	they like "fresh starts"
[07:46]	schestowitz-TR	and perception etc.
[07:49]	schestowitz-TR	managers do none of the technical work or authoring
[07:49]	schestowitz-TR	like elsevier and spinger
[07:49]	schestowitz-TR	so they do not value access to material
[07:49]	schestowitz-TR	just ways to 'monetise' alone
[07:49]	schestowitz-TR	that's an issue as publishers should never be detached from people who value the actual work
[07:49]	schestowitz-TR	code included, not just literature
[07:49]	Techrights-sec	they just plain don't value either knowledge or skill, thus the worshiping of
[07:49]	Techrights-sec	the ability to buff
[07:51]	schestowitz-TR	one of the most upsetting thing, for a coder, is having one's work thrown out of rejected by
[07:51]	schestowitz-TR	a manager who neither understands the work nor cares for the worker
[07:51]	schestowitz-TR	this is one sure way to get the talented staff to resign
[07:51]	schestowitz-TR	in our company, our ability to recruit peoople is not zero or negative
[07:51]	schestowitz-TR	unless we want seat fillers who cannot do anything at all
[07:51]	schestowitz-TR	we're a circus operation
[07:52]	Techrights-sec	yes removal of talent is a goal, the untalented know they are in over their
[07:52]	Techrights-sec	heads and then have 100% loyalty to the manager because they know they can
[07:52]	Techrights-sec	be fired for cause at any second and keep their paycheck only at the whim
[07:52]	Techrights-sec	of th emanager in question
[07:54]	schestowitz-TR	In our case, SarinGas(TM) did the most damage
[07:54]	schestowitz-TR	but not to worry, it's not like she cared
[07:54]	schestowitz-TR	and nw, IMHO, it's too late to undo the damage
[07:54]	schestowitz-TR	the  remaining inertia is giving up on principles
[07:54]	schestowitz-TR	using PAST reputation and ride it for a few more years
[07:54]	schestowitz-TR	while taking slime as "clients"...
[07:54]	Techrights-sec	sounds like a terminal stage MBA infection
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[07:56]	schestowitz-TR	not even an MBA
[07:56]	schestowitz-TR	you are grosssly over-valuing [sic]
[07:56]	schestowitz-TR	The SartisGas
[07:56]	schestowitz-TR	*Sarin
[07:57]	schestowitz-TR	and TheLiar (R) is a bit of a laughing stock too
[07:57]	schestowitz-TR	not just for the lies but a lack of technical understanding
[07:57]	schestowitz-TR	mostly imposer, pretending
[07:57]	schestowitz-TR	I came for the show
[07:57]	schestowitz-TR	I stay for the popcorn (and easy salary; they cannot afford to lose us)
[07:57]	Techrights-sec	yes that MBA-type of thought, whether occuring in a certified MBA or just
[07:57]	Techrights-sec	a wannabee, worships bluffing and eschews either skill or knowledge seeing
[07:57]	Techrights-sec	either or both as a threat to their bluff
[07:58]	schestowitz-TR	she already one defunct institution behind here
[07:58]	schestowitz-TR	as secretary or something in Open Source Consortium (UK)
[07:58]	schestowitz-TR	(no, she never uses Open Source...)
[07:59]	Techrights-sec	"high pay easy work short hours close to home"
[07:59]	Techrights-sec	:(
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[08:02]	schestowitz-TR	I am not sure what you are quoting and maybe some hypothetical quote rather
[08:02]	schestowitz-TR	than a real one, but that includes 4 points, which are applicable
[08:02]	schestowitz-TR	except "close to home"
[08:02]	schestowitz-TR	it is literally home and I do not even need to move between desks
[08:02]	schestowitz-TR	nor change my workflows
[08:02]	schestowitz-TR	I am on shift at the moment
[08:02]	schestowitz-TR	rianne has 2 computers upstaits helping with it, too
[08:02]	schestowitz-TR	give a person 12 years and the job finds a way to do itself
[08:02]	Techrights-sec	a paraphrase of a taiwanese saying about the ideal job
[08:04]	schestowitz-TR	Taiwan has very hard-working people
[08:04]	schestowitz-TR	but they imports labourers and outsource to mainland China for some parts
[08:04]	schestowitz-TR	Rianne lived in Taiwan for some months
[08:04]	schestowitz-TR	Unless her boyfriend died in a motor accident
[08:04]	schestowitz-TR	She even had a Twaiwanese name
[08:04]	schestowitz-TR	Taiwan is, to me, like a "lesser Japan"
[08:04]	schestowitz-TR	and work ethics might be similar too
[08:04]	schestowitz-TR	but they are not ethnically the same
[08:09]	schestowitz-TR	"If youre a 3D printer user youre probably familiar with that dreaded feeling of returning to your printer" https://hackaday.com/2022/04/25/machine-vision-helps-you-terminate-failing-3d-print-jobs/ | Source: Hackaday
[08:09]		-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-Machine Vision Helps You Terminate Failing 3D Print Jobs | Hackaday
[08:09]	schestowitz-TR	-TechrightsS
[08:27]	Techrights-sec	many point a camera at their printer and live stream to monitor progress
[08:27]	Techrights-sec	or disaster
[08:29]	schestowitz-TR	here is the thing
[08:29]	schestowitz-TR	I am one person
[08:29]	schestowitz-TR	one of many
[08:29]	schestowitz-TR	people have different needs
[08:29]	schestowitz-TR	but how would I ever justify the purchase price of such a device
[08:29]	schestowitz-TR	given how little of practical value I can print
[08:29]	schestowitz-TR	and how much time it would take to learn to do it, then get files, than actually do it
[08:29]	schestowitz-TR	then replenish supplies of material
[08:29]	schestowitz-TR	and possibly repair
[08:29]	schestowitz-TR	3-d printing is good
[08:30]	schestowitz-TR	but it's more expensive than your own lawn mower
[08:30]	schestowitz-TR	and seem to be a niche foir creative types
[08:30]	schestowitz-TR	otherwise, in a society and economy og "fashionable consumption"
[08:30]	schestowitz-TR	it seems to have become another "hgome toy"
[08:30]	schestowitz-TR	one that you get, use for while, have a little fun with
[08:30]	schestowitz-TR	get bored of, and then just add to some inventory
[08:37]	schestowitz-TR	10 AD: live, eat, sleep, fuck, die
[08:37]	schestowitz-TR	2010: live, buy, do exams, polish resume, work, repeat 10 times (work, resume), consume carsx10,
[08:37]	schestowitz-TR	buy 3dprinting, buy second car, die
[08:37]	schestowitz-TR	(there is no "eat" "sleep" or "fuck"... not time for these things, and god forbid any cooking gets
[08:37]	schestowitz-TR	done, that's a "Waste of time...")
[08:38]	Techrights-sec	I see that the future of 3D printing is probably not so much individual
[08:38]	Techrights-sec	hobbyists but more that of professional shops with the occasional makerspace
[08:38]	Techrights-sec	both of which will have a team of skilled an experienced people on hand
[08:38]	Techrights-sec	to make sure that less of a mess is made.  The big news IMHO is the 
[08:38]	Techrights-sec	metal printing with sintering.  However as mentioned before, who knows 
[08:38]	Techrights-sec	what patents are holding the field back at the moment.  The cool stuff
[08:38]	Techrights-sec	we see now is from the 1990s and only just now sloughing off the patent 
[08:38]	Techrights-sec	restrictions which held back innovation.
[08:41]	schestowitz-TR	I think energy requirement for some of these are "industrial-grade"
[08:41]	schestowitz-TR	but I am not too sure
[08:41]	schestowitz-TR	either way, pushing into homes things that would economically be shared is the goal of wasteful,
[08:41]	schestowitz-TR	earth-shattering industries
[08:41]	schestowitz-TR	such as "home cinemas" to be used by, at most, 2 people
[08:41]	schestowitz-TR	but get used to brag to a guest who might come once a year
[08:42]	Techrights-sec	Some.  Especially the metal.  
[08:42]	Techrights-sec	I have been considering a laser cutter for a long time but that is off
[08:42]	Techrights-sec	the list now
[08:42]	Techrights-sec	Given the state of backdoors in the "smart" tvs, I would say it is faster, cheaper, morefunctional, and a lot safer
[08:42]	Techrights-sec	 to run Kodi or something like that
[08:42]	Techrights-sec	attached to a nice monitor
[08:46]	schestowitz-TR	the purpose of very large displays is to enable many people to sit around staring at the same display
[08:46]	schestowitz-TR	this can be good in meetings with a table full of peopple
[08:46]	schestowitz-TR	the problem is that Wasteful Consumption Corp. made it seem like homes too needs these
[08:52]	Techrights-sec	Yes there are 72" or some bullshit for sale these days
[08:52]	Techrights-sec	I read that some "televisions" won't work until you've logged them in via GOogle
[08:52]	Techrights-sec	too
[08:52]	Techrights-sec	but haven't confirmed that yet
[08:52]	Techrights-sec	Most sales these days I would guess count as consumption and by that I mean
[08:52]	Techrights-sec	wasteful, unnecessary consumption.  
[08:52]	Techrights-sec	Pohl explored that a bit once: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Midas_World
[08:52]		-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-en.wikipedia.org | Midas World - Wikipedia
[08:52]	schestowitz-TR	I don not mind OTHER people knocking THEMSELVES out
[08:52]	schestowitz-TR	but their lifestuyles contribute to environmental and economic issues for the rest of us, too
[08:57]	Techrights-sec	definitely
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[09:05]	Techrights-sec	the worst is when the adverse effects can be considered "externalities" by 
[09:05]	Techrights-sec	the perpetrators 
[09:05]	Techrights-sec	I haven't looked at RSS yet today :(
[09:05]	Techrights-sec	There's still interesting stuff each time but it's a smaller and smaller
[09:05]	Techrights-sec	proportion of the total
[09:06]	schestowitz-TR	i may be away for an hour, could use some video and article ideas for later
[09:06]	schestowitz-TR	cleaned all the links except quiterss
[09:06]	schestowitz-TR	i took a shallow look
[09:07]	schestowitz-TR	it looked like howtos mostly 
[09:07]	schestowitz-TR	and dreary
[09:23]	Techrights-sec	there is lots of shallow coverage of the Assange extradition, the large  
[09:23]	Techrights-sec	number of articles is surprising but so is the complete lack of depth;
[09:23]	Techrights-sec	most don't even give a background of Wikileaks or especially "Collateral Murder"
[09:23]	Techrights-sec	a few still parrot lies about Sweden   
[09:26]	schestowitz-TR	better to have good coverage in smallm quantities than lots of low-quality coverage (quantity)
[09:26]	schestowitz-TR	because it helps drown out the former
[09:26]	schestowitz-TR	the EPO issues many misleading pieces about "privacy" and "quality" in hopes of people not finding out
[09:26]	schestowitz-TR	what EPO examiners are saying  
[09:26]	Techrights-sec	The Digital Services Act has gotten little to no ccoverage in the press
[09:26]	Techrights-sec	I'm sure the point of flooding the mews with shallow coverage is to 
[09:26]	Techrights-sec	wipe it from the minds of the public
[09:28]	schestowitz-TR	I noticed the same. Cory Doctorow did a lot of rallying along with others a few years ago. EFF, this time,
[09:28]	schestowitz-TR	around, just did one blog post on DSA and that's it
[09:28]	schestowitz-TR	the post it did about Musk Social made me lol
[09:28]	schestowitz-TR	EFF: we also support "modern" crap. And MACS!
[09:28]	schestowitz-TR	Maybe they hope Musk will be their next Mark Cuban, a sugar daddy
[09:28]	schestowitz-TR	TechDirt also wrote some total trash, but then again it took Koch money and it seems to oppose
[09:28]	schestowitz-TR	regulation
[09:29]	Techrights-sec	It was right up the EFF's alley but they went out of their way to drop the 
[09:29]	Techrights-sec	ball there.
[09:31]	schestowitz-TR	EFF is Mozilla sans corporate formalities
[09:31]	schestowitz-TR	Mozilla keeps spamming me via Email now
[09:31]	schestowitz-TR	I never got spam from Mozilla
[09:31]	schestowitz-TR	And it's BS lobbying about "HEY HI"
[09:31]	schestowitz-TR	Nothing to do with WWW tech
[09:31]	schestowitz-TR	Mozilla is a joke to me, but I still use some of the stuff they made for 20 years almost
[09:34]	schestowitz-TR	bbl
[09:34]	Techrights-sec	Mozilla's harm to the market by taking Google's money and subsequently
[09:34]	Techrights-sec	dropping independent direction is no joke 
[09:34]	Techrights-sec	ack
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[13:58]	schestowitz-TR	OTA
[13:58]	schestowitz-TR	Gotr some good material
[13:58]	schestowitz-TR	OTA
[13:58]	Techrights-sec	ack
[13:58]	Techrights-sec	excellent
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[15:26]	schestowitz-TR	ack
[15:26]	schestowitz-TR	CSS or CSC ?
[15:26]	schestowitz-TR	s/the CSS said/the CSC said/
[15:26]	Techrights-sec	ack
[15:26]	Techrights-sec	CSS or CSC ?
[15:26]	Techrights-sec	s/the CSS said/the CSC said/
[15:26]	schestowitz-TR	drafgt
[15:27]	schestowitz-TR	this covers a lot of stuff we recently spoke about
[15:27]	schestowitz-TR	inc. my employer
[15:27]	schestowitz-TR	the video is very long but not repetitive
[15:27]	schestowitz-TR	I take advantage to explaint to staff some of the world elements of the syetem
[15:27]	schestowitz-TR	like James Gosling and co doing contests to see who sneaks in the dumbest patents
[15:27]	schestowitz-TR	I'm correcting the typos. well spotted. the video is long and may take more than an hour more to be ready.
[15:36]	Techrights-sec	ack
[15:36]	Techrights-sec	excellent
[15:36]	Techrights-sec	the lack of competition in coverage is both good and bad, I guess it can be 
[15:36]	Techrights-sec	leveraged for good effect
[15:36]	schestowitz-TR	Our potential to infleucne affairds and direction at the EPO is huge
[15:36]	schestowitz-TR	hence it is a priority
[15:36]	schestowitz-TR	because we have direct contact with a lot of staff through the Web siute
[15:36]	schestowitz-TR	they don't even read their "own" site, epo.org
[15:36]	schestowitz-TR	and we don't have much "competition"
[15:36]	schestowitz-TR	some leaks show that higf-level management mentions us a lot
[15:36]	schestowitz-TR	scared of us
[15:37]	Techrights-sec	upper management needs to be out on their ear collectively
[15:39]	schestowitz-TR	yes, but by what /kind/ of process would that come about
[15:39]	schestowitz-TR	rarely do you heard about WHOLE management teams (high salary, no tax)
[15:39]	schestowitz-TR	just resigning entirely
[15:39]	schestowitz-TR	In EPO there are stakeholkders, not shareholders, and they 
[15:39]	schestowitz-TR	bet on patent maximalis, so they won't force a hand
[15:39]	schestowitz-TR	Replacing Battistelli was just optics to them
[15:39]	schestowitz-TR	and then they gagged any critics of the "orange one"
[15:40]	Techrights-sec	well the rot, nepotism, and corruption has spread so widely and thoroughly at
[15:40]	Techrights-sec	that level than just bringing in a few new people will only result in the new
[15:40]	Techrights-sec	people quitting, getting ground down, or corrupted themselves.  A house
[15:40]	Techrights-sec	cleaning is needed.  Anythiung less is just rearranging the deck chairs.
[15:42]	schestowitz-TR	if it was a political party, it would collapse
[15:42]	schestowitz-TR	but it is now
[15:42]	schestowitz-TR	if it was a company 
[15:42]	schestowitz-TR	it would fail
[15:42]	schestowitz-TR	but it is not a company
[15:42]	schestowitz-TR	it is a MONOPOLY
[15:42]	schestowitz-TR	a rather uninque scenario
[15:42]	schestowitz-TR	PLUS, diplomatic immunity
[15:42]	schestowitz-TR	short of the whole EU or the occupation collapsing, it's hard to envision a resolution
[15:42]	schestowitz-TR	or WHO would impose it on the EPOO
[15:43]	Techrights-sec	yes and as a monopoly it is more akin to a utility than a business
[15:43]	Techrights-sec	it would be a major disservice and wrongdoing to try to run it as a for-profit
[15:44]	schestowitz-TR	they like to pretend that the "competition" is other countries or continents
[15:44]	schestowitz-TR	but it is corporate global cartel
[15:44]	schestowitz-TR	with WIPO/WTO and others as a shallow umbrrella
[15:44]	schestowitz-TR	the shadow cast upon us people by the true masters, the corporationas dna oligarchs
[15:45]	Techrights-sec	that sounds more like malfeasance 
[15:45]	Techrights-sec	they are ostensibly there to unifiy not churn
[15:51]	schestowitz-TR	it is a global problem
[15:51]	schestowitz-TR	but in EPO it's either a lot worse or a lot more visible
[15:51]	schestowitz-TR	owing to strong union culture in northern Europe
[15:51]	schestowitz-TR	(relative to the US; I don't have to tell you about USPTO patent quality  
[15:51]	schestowitz-TR	and corporate shuffle in leadership
[15:51]	schestowitz-TR	kappos (ibm) -> lee (gulag, not bezoszon/aws) -> iancu (trolls) -> Microsoft Vidal
[15:51]	schestowitz-TR	remember: epo is not european
[15:51]	schestowitz-TR	it's INTERNATIONAL ORG
[15:51]	schestowitz-TR	so we are dealing with anINTERNATIONAL problem
[15:51]	schestowitz-TR	and through the EPO we expose corruption in connected orgs too
[15:51]	schestowitz-TR	inc. WIPO with Gurry (AU) and some shitty countries near Putin
[15:51]	schestowitz-TR	workers are smart and well-educated enough to 'feel' or to know
[15:51]	schestowitz-TR	they are not there for science but for businesses and for corporate 
[15:51]	schestowitz-TR	lawyers
[15:51]	schestowitz-TR	they have access to millions of documents, inc. private stuff
[15:51]	schestowitz-TR	we just need to ensure there is a secure conduit for transparency
[15:52]	Techrights-sec	ack
[15:52]	Techrights-sec	no it is not and that is a confounding problem
[15:52]	Techrights-sec	it falls through the cracks and has so far escaped accountability
[15:52]	Techrights-sec	the currentr state of European higher education (or lack thereof) is a related
[15:52]	Techrights-sec	problem; and there is far worse to come but since the problm is in the pipe
[15:52]	Techrights-sec	it is ignored; the "univeristies" are decreasingly able to provide education
[15:52]	Techrights-sec	and failing that not even training, becoming just a charade which is the way
[15:52]	Techrights-sec	those large multinational interests like it
[15:54]	schestowitz-TR	i sometimes wonder if there are unniversity syllabi that now include "AWS"
[15:54]	schestowitz-TR	or similar
[15:54]	Techrights-sec	orobably; there are apparently trade schools which use M$ Azure from start to
[15:54]	Techrights-sec	finish in plce of actual Linux experience;  Similar for AWS;
[15:54]	Techrights-sec	It might be one of the few areas where
[15:54]	Techrights-sec	Azure gets used at all even if it is the
[15:54]	Techrights-sec	tiny minority there too
[15:56]	schestowitz-TR	Maybe Azure has market share like Vista 11
[15:56]	schestowitz-TR	the surveys I see are based on a few people polled by some firm
[15:56]	schestowitz-TR	could be Microsoft astroturfers
[15:56]	schestowitz-TR	I see many AWS users at work
[15:56]	schestowitz-TR	some rackspace, linode, etc.
[15:56]	schestowitz-TR	azure is smaller than linode ^_^
[15:56]	schestowitz-TR	big... in the media.
[15:59]	schestowitz-TR	do not.
[15:59]	schestowitz-TR	do not!
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[16:00]	schestowitz-TR	not trust trust numbers from companies
[16:00]	schestowitz-TR	all companies lie
[16:00]	schestowitz-TR	some lie more
[16:00]	schestowitz-TR	according to twitter my traffic/reach QUADRUPLED whilst MuskingTape was on the table discussing
[16:00]	schestowitz-TR	price
[16:00]	schestowitz-TR	number of "Active Users" can be "number of unique browser cookies detected by our back end this past
[16:00]	schestowitz-TR	month (31 days"
[16:00]	schestowitz-TR	they are "active" because they nevigated into a page
[16:00]	schestowitz-TR	and they are "unique" based on their browser fingerprint
[16:00]	schestowitz-TR	some use multiple browsers, let's make that count more
[16:00]	Techrights-sec	yes azure is smaller than linode's smaller competitor, it is just that I have 
[16:00]	Techrights-sec	toalked with some "certified" students who have graduated with *NO* computer
[16:00]	Techrights-sec	experience
[16:00]	Techrights-sec	so they are trained to bluf and lie
[16:01]	schestowitz-TR	"lying" is not lying and it is "ethical" becaue "I have mouths to feed" :-)
[16:06]	Techrights-sec	https://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=yuppie-nuremberg%20defense
[16:06]		-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-www.urbandictionary.com | Urban Dictionary: yuppie-nuremberg defense
[16:08]	schestowitz-TR	that is what we live with and must con-exist with
[16:08]	schestowitz-TR	liars and people who buy 72-inch TVs to compensate for lack of inches somewhere else
[16:08]	schestowitz-TR	and social/class insecurity
[16:08]	schestowitz-TR	along with people who won't wear a mask to save thousands of people
[16:10]	schestowitz-TR	I have just checked the database dumpc (gunzip -t) and I've seen nothing wrong for days
[16:10]	schestowitz-TR	hypothesis: maybe deleting a lot of old backups freed up some space and caused allocation to work better
[16:10]	schestowitz-TR	but this theory is easy to debunk, let's wait another week
[16:10]	schestowitz-TR	I am going to check COVID numbers. Mondays don't count as they unleash not YET the backlogs
[16:10]	Techrights-sec	ack
[16:29]	schestowitz-TR	NHS UK: The Dog Ate My Data, But Thousands of People Get Hospitalised With COVID-19 Each Day, Thousands Die Each Week http://schestowitz.com/Weblog/archives/2022/04/26/thousands-die-each-week/
[16:29]		-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-schestowitz.com Blog Archive NHS UK: The Dog Ate My Data, But Thousands of People Get Hospitalised With COVID-19 Each Day, Thousands Die Each Week
[16:33]	schestowitz-TR	you do of course realise china now admits lockdowns 
[16:33]	schestowitz-TR	even in its capital (of capital punishments)
[16:33]	schestowitz-TR	this is how I've explains to friends for over 2 years that this crisis isn't fake
[16:33]	schestowitz-TR	russia and china don't just bow to western regime and plutocrats
[16:33]	schestowitz-TR	so if they take it seriously, then it's serious
[16:33]	schestowitz-TR	my dad must be reading junk
[16:33]	schestowitz-TR	he thinks that china's shortages are maybe intentional or fake
[16:33]	Techrights-sec	ack
[16:33]	schestowitz-TR	but then again, we was never the shrpest tool in the box
[16:33]	Techrights-sec	yes they are having lockdowns
[16:33]	schestowitz-TR	didn't even go to college
[16:33]	Techrights-sec	:(
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[16:34]	schestowitz-TR	fake it till you make it
[16:34]	schestowitz-TR	elulate "mission accomplished"
[16:34]	schestowitz-TR	*emulate
[16:34]	schestowitz-TR	"thoughts and prayers"
[16:35]	Techrights-sec	:(
[16:35]	Techrights-sec	ack
[16:37]	schestowitz-TR	I am scanning bbc at the moment
[16:37]	schestowitz-TR	to find any totally insane  articles
[16:37]	schestowitz-TR	lol
[16:37]	schestowitz-TR	"Job losses expected.... at Covid vaccine factory"
[16:37]	schestowitz-TR	Okk, bill, go break some more windows
[16:37]	schestowitz-TR	or maybe makem something that works better
[16:37]	schestowitz-TR	bill fuckin' c
[16:38]	Techrights-sec	their news page is *still* broken with munged links, it has been many 
[16:38]	Techrights-sec	years and they have not gotten around to caring enough to notice or to hire
[16:38]	Techrights-sec	anyone with the skill to fix it
[16:38]	Techrights-sec	https://www.nytimes.com/2022/04/26/world/asia/china-covid-beijing-shanghai.html
[16:38]		-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-www.nytimes.com | Chinas Covid Strategy: Test 20 Million in Beijing Amid Lockdown Fears - The New York Times
[16:41]	schestowitz-TR	I hope production will slow better
[16:41]	schestowitz-TR	it will hurt all of us, but some will be hurt more than others
[16:41]	schestowitz-TR	the heavy spenders and wasters suffer more
[16:41]	schestowitz-TR	a war is lots of circuitry 
[16:41]	schestowitz-TR	*a car
[16:41]	schestowitz-TR	also war
[16:41]	schestowitz-TR	drones have computers on them
[16:41]	schestowitz-TR	missiles also
[16:42]	schestowitz-TR	when you shoot a rocket you basically destroy a whole computer with peripheral
[16:42]	schestowitz-TR	but the military graft machine charges for one rocket like 1000 the cost of that computer
[16:42]	schestowitz-TR	for basically a metal shell with explosives in it
[16:42]	schestowitz-TR	monopoly pricing
[16:42]	schestowitz-TR	and graft (debt will pay; taxpayers will chase the debt)
[16:44]	Techrights-sec	https://ratical.org/ratville/CAH/warisaracket.html
[16:44]	Techrights-sec	https://gutenberg.ca/ebooks/butlersd-warisaracket/butlersd-warisaracket-00-h.html
[16:44]	Techrights-sec	or schools or pensions or etc
[16:44]		-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-ratical.org | War Is A Racket, by Major General Smedley Butler, 1935
[16:44]		-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-gutenberg.ca | War is a Racket by Smedley D. Butler, from Project Gutenberg Canada
[16:45]	schestowitz-TR	missiles that cost 10-20 times more than the home or luxury car they destroy
[16:45]	schestowitz-TR	or missile that cost like a home for a homeless person
[16:45]	schestowitz-TR	in the greatestcountryonearth(tm)
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[16:48]	Techrights-sec	" But victory or defeat will be determined by the skill and ingenuity of our scientists."
[16:48]	Techrights-sec	Thus the attack started globally on education, going on since the Reagan  
[16:48]	Techrights-sec	adminisitration, but not limited to the US.  
[16:48]	Techrights-sec	https://education.ec.europa.eu/education-levels/higher-education/higher-education-initiatives/inclusive-and-connected-higher-education/bologna-process
[16:48]		-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-education.ec.europa.eu | The Bologna Process and the European Higher Education Area | European Education Area
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[16:56]	Techrights-sec	https://journals.sagepub.com/doi/10.1177/1474904118824229
[16:56]		-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell- ( status 503 @ https://journals.sagepub.com/doi/10.1177/1474904118824229 )
[16:56]	Techrights-sec	https://www.timeshighereducation.com/news/bologna-process-still-treading-water-say-critics
[16:56]	Techrights-sec	"On the whole, European universities have sliced up traditional five-year courses  like Germanys diplom  into BA
[16:56]	Techrights-sec	 and MA degrees."
[16:57]	Techrights-sec	https://www.timeshighereducation.com/news/bologna-not-to-taste-of-german-critics/419845.article
[16:57]		-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-www.timeshighereducation.com | Bologna Process still treading water, say critics | Times Higher Education (THE)
[16:57]		-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-www.timeshighereducation.com | Bologna not to taste of German critics | Times Higher Education (THE)
[16:59]	schestowitz-TR	in german they load up academic titles e.g. professor doctor
[16:59]	schestowitz-TR	in the uk they use fake titles and load these too, inc. acronyms
[16:59]	schestowitz-TR	in spain you just give someone like a dozen names
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[17:00]	schestowitz-TR	and the longer your name the more "pedigree" you must have
[17:00]	schestowitz-TR	but with a chest of brass and 5 different name it's possible you 
[17:00]	schestowitz-TR	are just a boor flying planes to shag 15 year olds
[17:00]	Techrights-sec	ack
[17:34]	schestowitz-TR	epo article published
[17:34]	schestowitz-TR	of interest/priotiryt:
[17:34]	schestowitz-TR	sotries about high-profile people who quit twitter
[17:34]	schestowitz-TR	and groups that are collectively seen doing sw
[17:34]	schestowitz-TR	I saw only one such story so far
[17:34]	schestowitz-TR	the inertia needs to be there
[17:34]	schestowitz-TR	the right wingers pretend the opposite at the moment
[17:34]	schestowitz-TR	they want to turn twitter into parler
[17:45]	Techrights-sec	ack
[17:45]	Techrights-sec	        
[17:45]	Techrights-sec	more so that it already has been 
[17:45]	schestowitz-TR	today we'll show the criuminals who sent the EPO toi Microsoft US
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[18:01]	schestowitz-TR	we must think of ways to maximise the effect to highlight the microsoft angle here
[18:01]	schestowitz-TR	maybe in Linux-centric sites
[18:01]	schestowitz-TR	it's not that often that our EPO excursions helpm expose microsoft crimes, too
[18:27]	schestowitz-TR	part 4 published
[18:27]	schestowitz-TR	typo spotting would help
[18:28]	schestowitz-TR	or suggestions
[18:28]	schestowitz-TR	I am goingf to record about it now
[18:28]	schestowitz-TR	soon there is a super-important game across the road (real madrid)
[18:28]	schestowitz-TR	so there will be too much noise
[18:28]	Techrights-sec	ack
[18:28]	Techrights-sec	ok
[18:29]	Techrights-sec	it would be useful to mention the relevance of the addresses when introducing
[18:29]	Techrights-sec	the paragraph about "corporat headquarters"
[18:30]	schestowitz-TR	I don't know te answer this this and it'll likely emerge later on
[18:30]	schestowitz-TR	weonly have parts 1-7 ready
[18:30]	schestowitz-TR	sometimes you expect the EPO to start making noise and googlebomb
[18:30]	schestowitz-TR	to distract from some "word" covered in the series
[18:30]	schestowitz-TR	as happend last March (Microsoft "clown" migration 
[18:30]	Techrights-sec	perhaps the part about being a certifie M$ partner ought to be mentioned or
[18:30]	Techrights-sec	at least alluded to early on as well
[18:32]	schestowitz-TR	re Microsoft, I have the title for the video
[18:32]	schestowitz-TR	the video will say a lot more about those aspects you've suggested
[18:32]	schestowitz-TR	not sure how long it will be, but text comes after recording
[18:32]	schestowitz-TR	typically emphasising bits or adding what was missed ore forgotten in the video
[18:32]	schestowitz-TR	OTA
[18:32]	Techrights-sec	ack
[18:32]	schestowitz-TR	(we do a lot of damage here to Microsloth, not just EPO; 2 in 1,,,)
[18:32]	Techrights-sec	ack
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[19:48]	schestowitz-TR	ota 
[19:48]	schestowitz-TR	done 35 mins
[19:48]	Techrights-sec	ack
[19:48]	Techrights-sec	ack
[19:48]	Techrights-sec	"Harris was fully vaccinated with the Moderna vaccine, and has since been boosted twice. "
[19:48]	Techrights-sec	https://text.npr.org/1061867530
[19:48]		-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-text.npr.org | Vice President Harris has tested positive for COVID-19
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[20:19]	Techrights-sec	ack
[20:19]	Techrights-sec	ack
[20:19]	Techrights-sec	checking 
[20:19]	Techrights-sec	:/
[20:19]	Techrights-sec	M$ is never a joke 
[20:19]	Techrights-sec	Windoze kills
[20:19]	Techrights-sec	back in a bit
[20:19]	Techrights-sec	back
[20:19]	Techrights-sec	(reboot due to libc and kernel updates)
[20:19]	schestowitz-TR	ota 
[20:19]	schestowitz-TR	done 35 minsBBB
[20:19]	schestowitz-TR	goal
[20:19]	schestowitz-TR	so much noise
[20:19]	schestowitz-TR	doors wide open
[20:19]	schestowitz-TR	see the memme in drafts :-)
[20:19]	schestowitz-TR	scheduled for AFTR the video
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