●● IRC: #boycottnovell @ Techrights IRC Network: Thursday, May 26, 2022 ●● ● May 26 [01:14] *psydruid (~psydruid@jevhxkzmtrbww.irc) has left #boycottnovell [01:14] *psydruid (~psydruid@jevhxkzmtrbww.irc) has joined #boycottnovell [01:15] *psydruid (~psydruid@jevhxkzmtrbww.irc) has left #boycottnovell [01:15] *psydruid (~psydruid@jevhxkzmtrbww.irc) has joined #boycottnovell [01:39] *psydruid (~psydruid@jevhxkzmtrbww.irc) has left #boycottnovell ● May 26 [02:08] *rianne_ has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [02:08] *liberty_box has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [02:10] *rianne has quit (Ping timeout: 120 seconds) [02:18] *rianne (~rianne@freenode-i33.jp8.7132oi.IP) has joined #boycottnovell [02:18] *rianne_ (~rianne@hcdms2vr9hu9e.irc) has joined #boycottnovell [02:18] *liberty_box (~liberty@hcdms2vr9hu9e.irc) has joined #boycottnovell [02:25] *Despatche has quit (connection closed) ● May 26 [03:23] *DaemonFC has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [03:25] *DaemonFC (~daemonfc@7adiimzyx9th6.irc) has joined #boycottnovell [03:30] *DaemonFC has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [03:32] *DaemonFC (~daemonfc@7adiimzyx9th6.irc) has joined #boycottnovell [03:36] *DaemonFC has quit (connection closed) [03:36] *DaemonFC (~daemonfc@7adiimzyx9th6.irc) has joined #boycottnovell ● May 26 [06:42] schestowitz-TR draft [06:42] Techrights-sec the full name of Vidal should be used even if "Microsoft" is added as a nickhname [06:42] Techrights-sec s/IP/IP {sic} [06:43] Techrights-sec OOXML is not actually used by MSO so that's tiny but important detail to work [06:43] Techrights-sec around and or note [06:43] Techrights-sec the screenshot says DOCX, and that is a suite of formats and only peripherally [06:43] Techrights-sec related to OOXML which no one actually uses, not even M$ itself [06:43] Techrights-sec implying that OOXML is in use or that DOCX is a single format is misleading at [06:43] Techrights-sec best ● May 26 [07:09] schestowitz-TR thank you, very useful corrections [07:09] schestowitz-TR later today the latest mortality report should be published [07:09] schestowitz-TR I use those to make a point [07:18] *DaemonFC has quit (Quit: Leaving) [07:21] schestowitz-TR "Frequently in Gemini, I see mentions of GIT, dislike of github, and alternatives such as Gitea, GitLab and others. At work I use git and we use github for hosting the companies repositories." gemini://gemini.ctrl-c.club/~nristen/gemlog/20220525.gmi [07:25] Techrights-sec np [07:32] *schestowitz has quit (Quit: Konversation terminated!) [07:32] *schestowitz has quit (Quit: Konversation term) [07:33] *schestowitz (~roy@hcdms2vr9hu9e.irc) has joined #boycottnovell [07:33] *irc.techrights.org sets mode +q #boycottnovell schestowitz [07:33] *schestowitz (~schestowi@freenode/user/schestowitz) has joined #boycottnovell [07:41] schestowitz-TR Phoronix boosting GitHub projects. Many of the articles have zero comments these days. Maybe it's not what the audience wanted.... [07:43] *u-amarsh04 has quit (Quit: Konversation terminated!) [07:43] *u-amarsh04 has quit (Quit: Konversation terminated!) [07:44] Techrights-sec :/ [07:44] Techrights-sec he had been doing so well for so long before selling out, now he sees what comes [07:44] Techrights-sec of selling out; maybe he had a boost of income for a few weeks or even months, [07:44] Techrights-sec but the cost came at driving away the audience he had; now that he has no [07:44] Techrights-sec audience, the sponsors won't want him either; [07:46] schestowitz-TR I want to frame this a little differently if you don't mind [07:46] schestowitz-TR Phoronix was a hub [07:46] schestowitz-TR many sites linked to it [07:46] schestowitz-TR LT, TM (his biggest source of trtaffic, based on Alexa, which is now dead)... [07:46] schestowitz-TR so for traffic he depended on more than just the people who follow via RSS etc. [07:46] schestowitz-TR if he pisses off the primary sources of readers, new readers, and Twitter (Musk) [07:47] schestowitz-TR won't salvage that (mostly fake numbers), you will be harmed [07:47] Techrights-sec yes [07:47] Techrights-sec s/you/he/ [07:47] schestowitz-TR yes, I noticed that error [07:47] schestowitz-TR but did not bother correcting it [07:50] schestowitz-TR even some of today's benchmarks feel "sponsored" [07:50] schestowitz-TR not just amd and ms azure [07:50] schestowitz-TR he just got a high-end laptop from tuxedo computing [07:50] schestowitz-TR why would I link to a gift article? [07:50] Techrights-sec ack [07:50] schestowitz-TR i would be encouraging unethical behaviour [07:59] *u-amarsh04 (~amarsh04@v6xmmrhxmbafc.irc) has joined #boycottnovell [07:59] *u-amarsh04 (~amarsh04@freenode-rmogvn.g0d7.dtdf.mc4289.IP) has joined #boycottnovell ● May 26 [08:10] schestowitz-TR rianne d doing covid test atm [08:10] schestowitz-TR not because of feeling unwell [08:10] schestowitz-TR just that we were exposed to a crowd the other day in the parade [08:10] schestowitz-TR it could be the last time for decades or ever [08:10] schestowitz-TR such is the nature of the English Football League/s [08:10] schestowitz-TR some people do not stand in the parade [08:10] schestowitz-TR they chase the basus, so there is a massive tidal wave of people coming as the buses apporoach [08:10] Techrights-sec ack [08:16] schestowitz-TR apropos, minirant, soft rant: [08:16] schestowitz-TR 1) techdirt became mostly politicscopos, I liked it when it was more like torrentfreak topic-wise (and [08:16] schestowitz-TR sometimes I agreee wiuth the seemingly libertarian "hand-off" slant) [08:16] schestowitz-TR *hands [08:16] schestowitz-TR 2) hackaday change its editor some months ago; they used toi hvave more Linux/open hardware/SBC content [08:16] schestowitz-TR now it's reminding me of boingboing [08:16] Techrights-sec yes when he sticks to tech he is spot on. On other topics he is 50%/50% whether [08:16] Techrights-sec he is dealing facts or spouting disinformation [08:17] *u-amarsh04 has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [08:17] schestowitz-TR the language used, even in headlines ometimes, aims to get hits [08:17] schestowitz-TR bad language [08:18] schestowitz-TR scoring an own goal [08:18] Techrights-sec it's in the automated feeds, but I should make more of an effort to actually [08:18] Techrights-sec look at it and select his useful posts for manual processing first [08:18] *u-amarsh04 has quit (Ping timeout: 120 seconds) [08:22] schestowitz-TR we cannot be so picky anyway [08:22] schestowitz-TR the site still covers mostly tech [08:22] Techrights-sec ack [08:22] schestowitz-TR and is a good source most of the time [08:22] schestowitz-TR but the techdirt that was getting about 200 comments per post 10-15 yearsd ago is no more [08:23] schestowitz-TR ref/s in mind: The Web We Had[*]. [08:29] schestowitz-TR Small rant: a lot of today's dictionaries are Web-connected even though storage got a lot smaller and cheaper. My Palm PDA still has a full dictionary, but a lot of today's dictionaries for computing devices are spyware. They make no attempt to keep the data locally. For weather forecast that's understandable, but dictionaries??? [08:29] schestowitz-TR 0/ ● May 26 [10:01] *u-amarsh04 (~amarsh04@freenode-rmogvn.g0d7.dtdf.mc4289.IP) has joined #boycottnovell [10:01] *u-amarsh04 (~amarsh04@v6xmmrhxmbafc.irc) has joined #boycottnovell [10:04] schestowitz-TR Now there's an official video for the Manchester City parade (tried to see if we appear in the footage, but no...) https://www.mancity.com/citytv/mens/inside-city-397-champions-parade-special-63789064 [10:04] schestowitz-TR -TechrightsSocial/#boycottnovell-social- www.mancity.com | Inside City 397: Champions parade special [10:04] -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-www.mancity.com | Inside City 397: Champions parade special [10:24] *psydruid (~psydruid@jevhxkzmtrbww.irc) has joined #boycottnovell [10:33] *psydruid (~psydruid@jevhxkzmtrbww.irc) has left #boycottnovell [10:33] *psydruid (~psydruid@jevhxkzmtrbww.irc) has joined #boycottnovell [10:48] *psydruid (~psydruid@jevhxkzmtrbww.irc) has left #boycottnovell [10:49] *psydruid (~psydruid@jevhxkzmtrbww.irc) has joined #boycottnovell [10:55] *u-amarsh04 has quit (Quit: Konversation terminated!) 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"Aqua Security and GitLab are sponsors of The New Stack." https://thenewstack.io/aqua-securitys-trivy-security-scanner-can-scan-anything-now/ [18:17] -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-thenewstack.io | Aqua Securitys Trivy Security Scanner Can Scan Anything Now The New Stack [18:58] *DaemonFC (~daemonfc@wvu2nfiy9d8uu.irc) has joined #boycottnovell ● May 26 [19:11] Techrights-sec it seems TM was temporarily unavailable at ~ 9:10 and ~ 13:25 [19:11] schestowitz-TR there was a heavy load, I saw that, and it went away before intervention was needd [19:11] schestowitz-TR maybe 2 mins [19:11] schestowitz-TR if the monitoring software claims a downtime very long, I think it's wrong because I tried very hard to keep it updated [19:11] schestowitz-TR also, in TR I posted 3 batches of Daily Links already [19:11] schestowitz-TR if the news is slow, then I can compensate by SPEED [19:11] schestowitz-TR posting the news, FASTER [19:11] Techrights-sec ack [19:11] Techrights-sec I don't log duration here perhaps I should figure a way. [19:12] schestowitz-TR montastic measures duration [19:12] schestowitz-TR it's the only remaining use for the bytesmedia account this year [19:12] schestowitz-TR so much real estate spam, I assume they target it because it's a .co.uk tld [19:16] schestowitz-TR -- [19:16] schestowitz-TR I'm temporarily turning ipfs on when I need low latency [19:16] schestowitz-TR for now, my efforts to 'fix' the existing scripts were not successful [19:16] schestowitz-TR mostly by configuring things on the system [19:16] schestowitz-TR debian really should NOT break APIs, not for a STABLE release [19:16] schestowitz-TR this is insane [19:17] schestowitz-TR I also had to fix several other things, wlan aside [19:17] schestowitz-TR imagine if this was a business prod server [19:17] schestowitz-TR apt update [19:17] schestowitz-TR and then nginx does not starte [19:17] schestowitz-TR networking does not work [19:17] schestowitz-TR and a bunch of other little things need tweaking [19:17] schestowitz-TR sooner or later businesses would stop updating systems, for the sake of stability [19:17] Techrights-sec ack [19:21] Techrights-sec debian has taken a bit hit in regards to reliability since the systemd [19:21] Techrights-sec fiasco was used to hound out so many of the good developers [19:24] schestowitz-TR I think you cannot see the output or running a tc script [19:24] schestowitz-TR I tried "legacy" modes of sorts and changed $if to eth0 [19:24] schestowitz-TR I get: [19:24] schestowitz sudo ./tc-shaper-v2.sh [19:24] schestowitz Error: Specified qdisc not found. [19:24] schestowitz Error: Specified qdisc not found. [19:25] schestowitz RTNETLINK answers: No such file or directory [19:25] schestowitz RTNETLINK answers: No such file or directory [19:25] schestowitz RTNETLINK answers: No such file or directory [19:25] schestowitz RTNETLINK answers: No such file or directory [19:25] schestowitz Error: Failed to find specified qdisc. [19:25] schestowitz Error: Failed to find specified qdisc. [19:25] schestowitz Error: Failed to find specified qdisc. [19:25] schestowitz Error: Failed to find specified qdisc. [19:25] schestowitz Error: Parent Qdisc doesn't exists. [19:25] schestowitz We have an error talking to the kernel [19:25] schestowitz Error: Parent Qdisc doesn't exists. [19:25] schestowitz We have an error talking to the kernel [19:25] schestowitz Error: Parent Qdisc doesn't exists. [19:25] schestowitz We have an error talking to the kernel [19:25] schestowitz Error: Specified qdisc not found. [19:25] schestowitz Error: Parent Qdisc doesn't exists. [19:25] schestowitz We have an error talking to the kernel [19:28] schestowitz-TR at first I assumed that it was due to wlan changing to eth [19:28] schestowitz-TR but soon I realised it was not [19:28] schestowitz-TR I searched some of these error messages, which seem common [19:28] schestowitz-TR on rhel systems they have some workarounds [19:28] schestowitz-TR but really, in the long run, a small rewrite would give this longevity [19:28] schestowitz-TR it's hard to know how far we get through ipfs because of thr decentralised nature of i [19:28] schestowitz-TR but it helps to put out there those objects with constrained network capacity [19:29] Techrights-sec nope [19:29] Techrights-sec $ ifconfig wlan0 [19:29] Techrights-sec wlan0: error fetching interface information: Device not found [19:29] Techrights-sec is the country code set via raspi-config ? [19:29] Techrights-sec the wireless interface has to be which country's rules to operate under [19:29] Techrights-sec ack [19:32] schestowitz-TR after the update and reboot (week later) I did notice that when booting it was throwing some kernel-relared errors [19:32] schestowitz-TR the hardware is OK, based on the clone system, which gets to wifi OK [19:32] schestowitz-TR so I blame system update and I think the kernel part in particulart [19:32] schestowitz-TR there is no grub, so changing to another kernel isn't simple [19:32] schestowitz-TR and using access to direct it to another kernel, which might not work [19:32] schestowitz-TR would lock me out [19:32] schestowitz-TR unable to even boot to undo the changes [19:32] schestowitz-TR so it's riskier than just plugging in via eth0 [19:32] schestowitz-TR I already configures the router and some existing code to use this new device name and interface [19:32] schestowitz-TR and so I don't worry too much [19:32] schestowitz-TR in fact, I assume futyure updates with new kernels might "fix" the wlan [19:32] schestowitz-TR not that I would revert back to it at that point [19:33] schestowitz-TR but the tc issue has been a real pain because I turn ipfs on and off [19:33] schestowitz-TR just not to be offline completly, esp. not when we add new objects to it (~3am) [19:53] schestowitz-TR One thing I treuly love about the pi series is, [19:53] schestowitz-TR you can cheaply have a whole bunch of redundant pieces of hw clones [19:53] schestowitz-TR and then make a set of clones of the software or system [19:53] schestowitz-TR and swapo those around [19:53] schestowitz-TR I did notice that running from USB ist is vastly slower than sd [19:53] schestowitz-TR and the menus can be hardly esponsive [19:54] Techrights-sec have you tried 'rfkill' with its options? [19:54] Techrights-sec try 'rfkill list' [19:54] Techrights-sec yes that's a big advantage [19:54] Techrights-sec the storage media and the devices themselves can be interchangeable [19:54] Techrights-sec strange, was the USB plugged into one of the USB3 ports (blue) ? ● May 26 [20:16] Techrights-sec WAN seems to have dropped [20:17] schestowitz-TR That explains why the pi400 is so slo [20:17] schestowitz-TR *slow [20:17] schestowitz-TR I've just checks, the stick is inserted into a black -coloured port [20:17] schestowitz-TR I did not know those colours had a meaning [20:52] schestowitz-TR I tried rfkill [20:52] schestowitz-TR I also checked the manpages [20:52] schestowitz-TR but it gets me nowhere and it's labeled legacy, deprecated [20:52] schestowitz-TR I reckon I can buy more devices like this one in the future, but [20:52] schestowitz-TR this last experience with the sytem update was a bummer [20:52] schestowitz-TR a lot worse than the outage itself (thankfully, no repetition of such [20:52] schestowitz-TR an incident since then) ● May 26 [23:43] *psydroid2 has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s)