●● IRC: #boycottnovell @ Techrights IRC Network: Tuesday, July 26, 2022 ●● ● Jul 26 [00:00] *lightbringer (mincer@freenode/user/lightbringer) has joined #boycottnovell ● Jul 26 [03:01] *u-amarsh04 has quit (Quit: Konversation terminated!) [03:04] *u-amarsh04 (~amarsh04@freenode-rmogvn.g0d7.dtdf.mc4289.IP) has joined #boycottnovell [03:04] *u-amarsh04 (~amarsh04@5tcc2vuaj9aks.irc) has joined #boycottnovell [03:04] *u-amarsh04 has quit (Quit: Konversation terminated!) [03:04] *u-amarsh04 has quit (Quit: Konversation terminated!) [03:05] *u-amarsh04 (~amarsh04@5tcc2vuaj9aks.irc) has joined #boycottnovell [03:05] *u-amarsh04 (~amarsh04@freenode-rmogvn.g0d7.dtdf.mc4289.IP) has joined #boycottnovell ● Jul 26 [05:01] *DaemonFC has quit (Quit: ChatZilla 0.13 [SeaMonkey 2.53.13/20220708150114]) [05:16] *britney has quit (connection closed) [05:16] *britney (~britney@muarsy2vret2q.irc) has joined #boycottnovell ● Jul 26 [06:08] *rianne_ has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [06:08] *schestowitz[TR] has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [06:08] *rianne_ (~rianne@hcdms2vr9hu9e.irc) has joined #boycottnovell [06:09] *schestowitz[TR] (~schestowitz[TR]@hcdms2vr9hu9e.irc) has joined #boycottnovell [06:46] schestowitz-TR i pushed a chage to git with favicon [06:46] schestowitz-TR did not know how to pull it from the server [06:46] Techrights-sec2 tidied a lot of file system permissions in the Git repository; apparently [06:46] Techrights-sec2 that is how it is done :/ [06:54] *asusbox has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [06:54] *rianne has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [06:54] *asusbox (~rianne@hcdms2vr9hu9e.irc) has joined #boycottnovell [06:54] *rianne (~rianne@hcdms2vr9hu9e.irc) has joined #boycottnovell [06:56] schestowitz-TR I've been thinking how the same CMS can be fitted into TR [06:56] schestowitz-TR like some sites that have a subsite for in-depth "investigations" [06:56] schestowitz-TR with more flexible (freeform) HTML than a CMS facilitates [06:56] schestowitz-TR I also had literal shower thoughts on how to migrate TM, inc. some pseudocode, but that's for much later ● Jul 26 [07:32] Techrights-sec2 The slowing down of journalism seems to be monotonic and never recover after [07:32] Techrights-sec2 holidays and breaks. [07:32] schestowitz-TR ha, [07:32] schestowitz-TR iwas about to say [07:32] schestowitz-TR a) geminispace was quiet yesterday and so far today [07:32] Techrights-sec2 ack [07:32] schestowitz-TR b) lots og emini traffic in techrights in recent days, and its http proxy [07:32] schestowitz-TR but tuxmachines can go on OK [07:32] schestowitz-TR btw, I attempted to use tm-update last night [07:32] schestowitz-TR using a command which I think worked before [07:32] schestowitz-TR but could not get it done [07:32] schestowitz-TR I wanted to add today's howtos as update to an earlier post [07:58] Techrights-sec2 checking [07:58] Techrights-sec2 tm-update seems to still work [07:58] Techrights-sec2 where any errors or warnings presented? [07:58] schestowitz-TR I tried -u and then the url [07:58] schestowitz-TR checking scrollback [07:59] Techrights-sec2 which URL ? ● Jul 26 [08:02] schestowitz-TR seems to be working now [08:02] schestowitz-TR I tried with another node [08:03] Techrights-sec2 ok, that's good [08:04] schestowitz-TR irc was derailed topic-wise before [08:04] schestowitz-TR needs observation for now [08:04] schestowitz-TR as it might be short-lived [08:04] schestowitz-TR rianne is leaving for 3 days in about an hour [08:04] schestowitz-TR but my productivity levels will be the same [08:08] Techrights-sec2 ack [08:08] schestowitz-TR I will think how to use tmux for monitoring of the new server, which is now running but only advertised in IRC for now [08:08] schestowitz-TR I suck at making config files for tmux session that has the panes intact even after reboots (restoring them) [08:08] schestowitz-TR I looked into it years ago [08:08] schestowitz-TR should we add apachetop or similar? [08:09] Techrights-sec2 what is needed ? Launching tmux like that is just a shell script [08:09] Techrights-sec2 tmux ... \; ... \; ... \; [08:09] Techrights-sec2 etc [08:11] schestowitz-TR will think about it during breakfast, e.g. what molnitor [08:11] schestowitz-TR given that it's an up to date OS it might make sense to put ALL the monitoring on there, inc. TR [08:11] schestowitz-TR afaik, upon launch tmux would not initiate an ssh connection to a peer (another machine) [08:11] schestowitz-TR brb [08:11] Techrights-sec2 ok [08:11] Techrights-sec2 tmux cannot be reasonably nested however [08:12] schestowitz-TR btw, I paid conil this morning for the time [08:12] schestowitz-TR we were logged in anyway [08:12] schestowitz-TR savers' rates went up from like 0.5 aer to 2.2 for 2 years (aer) [08:13] schestowitz-TR still FAR below inflation rate [08:13] Techrights-sec2 ack [08:13] Techrights-sec2 yes and then there are the "service" fees to cancel even those small rates out [08:14] schestowitz-TR they give no service really [08:14] schestowitz-TR for some task we must book appointment [08:14] schestowitz-TR walk is in not an optiomn [08:14] schestowitz-TR massive queue [08:14] schestowitz-TR and to book an appointment I can gues going through bots, costing time and money [08:14] schestowitz-TR our calling rtates are high [08:31] schestowitz-TR \ [08:31] schestowitz-TR there are about 11 httpd service running on the VM, not sure if this is intended [08:31] schestowitz-TR ok, so I hve a tmax session running as "tuxmachines" with just top for now [08:31] schestowitz-TR on "cavan" [08:31] Techrights-sec2 processes, yes, probably that is set in the Apache2 configuration file [08:31] Techrights-sec2 ack [08:35] Techrights-sec2 The number of spares can be brought down if necessary. Currently it is 10 spare [08:35] Techrights-sec2 servers: [08:35] Techrights-sec2 $ grep -r -E 'StartServers|MinSpareServers|MaxSpareServers|MaxRequestWorkers' /etc/apache2 [08:37] *u-amarsh04 has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [08:38] *u-amarsh04 has quit (Connection closed) [08:39] *u-amarsh04 (~amarsh04@5tcc2vuaj9aks.irc) has joined #boycottnovell [08:40] schestowitz-TR if you are logged in as root, which I think means connected through the hv, can you make /var/log/apache2 more lierally accessible, e.g. to tuxmachines [08:40] schestowitz-TR I want to tail -f for errors [08:40] schestowitz-TR I am also guessing we won't be adding images to the site, as that would mean downloading a lot of files, both to the server and for visitors [08:46] Techrights-sec2 adding images would "only" be a matter of finding and tuning an acceptable work [08:46] Techrights-sec2 flow, more than just guessing and rolling out the guess into production [08:46] Techrights-sec2 Off hand, I can't think of an easy way that would involve only a single step [08:46] Techrights-sec2 or at most two steps. [08:46] Techrights-sec2 tail -f for errors would be a good idea but that is a good use-case for [08:46] Techrights-sec2 file system permissions or at worst sudo than root [08:46] Techrights-sec2 "server certificate does NOT include an ID which matches the server name" [08:46] Techrights-sec2 sftp+incron would be easier than that, but the step after that is unknown [08:46] Techrights-sec2 internal labeling within the cert is the issue, it would clear up some of the [08:46] Techrights-sec2 browser warnings as well; IIRC it is possible to make a cert which covers [08:46] Techrights-sec2 several hostnames or even a "wildcard" certificate ● Jul 26 [09:29] *liberty_box_ has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [09:29] *liberty_box has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [09:29] *rianne_ has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [09:31] *rianne_ has quit (Ping timeout: 120 seconds) [09:31] Techrights-sec2 internal labeling within the cert is the issue, it would clear up some of the [09:31] Techrights-sec2 browser warnings as well; IIRC it is possible to make a cert which covers [09:31] Techrights-sec2 several hostnames or even a "wildcard" certificate [09:31] Techrights-sec2 For the images it might be possible to have an upload directory when serves [09:31] Techrights-sec2 as a staging area; incron could remove the images, make a thumbnail, and store [09:31] Techrights-sec2 them in a yyyy/mm/dd/ subdirectory within the web server's document root; [09:31] Techrights-sec2 then at that point they'd be publicly accessibe; then when referencing them, [09:31] Techrights-sec2 an absolute URL could be used but instead of getting blocked for hotlinking [09:31] Techrights-sec2 the files could be verified via the file system and then the URL converted [09:31] Techrights-sec2 to a relative URL. However, I feel the markup part of that is too nitpicky [09:31] Techrights-sec2 to be convenient [09:31] Techrights-sec2 FOSSForce has been inactive for a long time, any other feeds that TM shouud hvhave instead? [09:31] Techrights-sec2 LWN is out too [09:31] schestowitz-TR good point re images [09:31] schestowitz-TR one fallback is, have another teminal open, toss wget in there with url [09:31] schestowitz-TR then make a new local url [09:31] schestowitz-TR but that can come much later [09:31] schestowitz-TR we can still change the cert, it's not like people assume it's production or forgery [09:32] schestowitz-TR Until a decade ago I would have said groklaw [09:33] schestowitz-TR rianne has just left [09:34] Techrights-sec2 I hope she has a good / safe trip [09:34] Techrights-sec2 maybe pick random URLs daily from Groklaw and use those? [09:34] schestowitz-TR it would not news "news." site then [09:35] Techrights-sec2 ack [09:46] *psydruid (~psydruid@jevhxkzmtrbww.irc) has left #boycottnovell [09:46] *psydruid (~psydruid@jevhxkzmtrbww.irc) has joined #boycottnovell ● Jul 26 [10:05] *psydruid has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [10:15] *britney has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [10:28] schestowitz-TR phone bank [10:28] schestowitz-TR wait 4 minutes [10:28] schestowitz-TR lady decides she cannot book yet [10:28] schestowitz-TR I will phone you back [10:28] schestowitz-TR time passes call, one ring only [10:28] schestowitz-TR cannot answer that fast [10:28] schestowitz-TR still waiting now [10:28] schestowitz-TR cannot have music didn't even book an appointment yet [10:28] schestowitz-TR "Smart" [10:28] schestowitz-TR "Modern" [10:28] Techrights-sec2 :/ [10:43] *psydruid (~psydruid@jevhxkzmtrbww.irc) has joined #boycottnovell [10:46] Techrights-sec2 if you got the name of the person from the first call, then that can be mentioned and it will still be a setback but not quite back to the beginning [10:48] schestowitz-TR what's the point having a number for booking an appointment if the people answering are too busy to book an appointment???? [10:48] schestowitz-TR I already explained to her our needs are more compliated than site and app [10:48] schestowitz-TR and we must see someone "urgently" [10:48] schestowitz-TR I will probably need to phone again, starting againt from scratch [10:48] schestowitz-TR i gave my first name but was too optimistic to take hers ● Jul 26 [11:09] schestowitz-TR oh phone [11:09] schestowitz-TR holy hit [11:09] schestowitz-TR what crap [11:09] schestowitz-TR phone to book [11:09] schestowitz-TR monday sue mart str. 3pm sophie [11:09] schestowitz-TR scrobble herte for myself [11:09] schestowitz-TR 12 mins on phone [11:09] schestowitz-TR with manager [11:09] schestowitz-TR what a fucking clusterfuck [11:09] schestowitz-TR and now they say they cannot book an appointment after 2 people there said we should [11:09] schestowitz-TR and we end up arguing about them being understaffed and misinforming clients [11:09] Techrights-sec2 it's essential, unfortunately, when dealing with bureaucracy to make a habit [11:09] Techrights-sec2 of jotting down the name, time, date, and topic onto a piece of paper or text [11:09] Techrights-sec2 file at the very /start/ of the conversation [11:09] *DaemonFC (~chatzilla@vgjrvyjw9fiyc.irc) has joined #boycottnovell [11:11] schestowitz-TR I did, in hindsight, get the name of the first person and gave negative feedback to her manager [11:11] schestowitz-TR maybe in the future a bank will just be "some aws account" [11:11] schestowitz-TR "no branch"..." [11:11] schestowitz-TR no nothing [11:11] schestowitz-TR "online only" [11:11] schestowitz-TR so what fucking service do the banks even GIVE? [11:12] Techrights-sec2 ack [11:14] schestowitz-TR if you and I had the same convo 12 months agfoi I'd tell you interst rates were so laughable that you might be better off buying a safe [11:14] schestowitz-TR and telling the bank to sod off [11:15] schestowitz-TR you know, you need to ask for permission to take your OWN money [11:15] schestowitz-TR that's one heck of a massive hidden risk right there [11:18] *schestowitz-TR has quit (connection closed) [11:18] *schestowitz-TR2 has quit (Connection closed) [11:18] *schestowitz-TR (~acer-box@hcdms2vr9hu9e.irc) has joined #boycottnovell [11:18] *schestowitz-TR (~acer-box@freenode/user/schestowitz) has joined #boycottnovell [11:18] Techrights-sec2 ack [11:43] schestowitz-TR is there a simple way to aurorun the two scripts when a new page gets added? [11:43] schestowitz-TR yesterday I saw that if I just run "refresh" it can make all those existing pages vanish 404 [11:43] schestowitz-TR so I now export first, then refresh [11:43] schestowitz-TR otherwise pages that I add do not show up yet, either in the index or the rss feed [11:43] Techrights-sec2 ack [11:43] Techrights-sec2 yes the refresh script should do that now the tm-extract script was added to it [11:44] schestowitz-TR brilliant, tested just now and it works well [11:44] schestowitz-TR it's also fast on the server [11:45] Techrights-sec2 great [11:45] Techrights-sec2 though subjectively it was fast on the RPi too [11:46] schestowitz-TR yeah, I just remmeber weeks ago for a few seconds there would be an empty page there [11:46] schestowitz-TR I think that when adding a page it follows that the front page should self-update, otherwise I need to up press up a couple of times (used to be 3 times) to run another com [11:46] schestowitz-TR command [11:46] Techrights-sec2 should the addition of a record trigger an refresh? ok [11:48] schestowitz-TR https://www.commondreams.org/news/2022/07/25/michigan-students-walk-out-ceremony-over-keynote-speakers-pro-forced-birth-views [11:48] -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-www.commondreams.org | Michigan Students Walk Out of Ceremony Over Keynote Speaker's Pro-Forced Birth Views [11:50] schestowitz-TR the evangelicals are winning [11:50] schestowitz-TR locked down "computing " lobby [11:50] schestowitz-TR the outsourcers of banks (outsoucring the jobs to clients) [11:50] schestowitz-TR never mind war, climare, disease [11:50] schestowitz-TR the first three are also a form of disease [11:50] schestowitz-TR undoing centuries of human progress to suck out more capital from the "peasants" [11:58] *wallacer has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) ● Jul 26 [12:04] Techrights-sec2 had to fight with Git a while, try add-and-refresh-from-db.sh [12:04] Techrights-sec2 banks have discarded their traditional external customers in favor of [12:04] Techrights-sec2 financialization [12:06] schestowitz-TR thanks, I can see now [12:06] schestowitz-TR no -a option [12:06] schestowitz-TR but my name is 3 letters so it's still fast [12:06] schestowitz-TR (a lady just came from the energy supoplier to take power and gas readings, I kept distance, still a lot better than "online" and spy meters) [12:06] schestowitz-TR but it scales poorly when only few households need a visit [12:09] schestowitz-TR I'm relieved I did not screw up git last night, it was my first commit to that repo, I struggled a little at first [12:09] schestowitz-TR as I tried to then pull in the fivicon changes to the server and did not succeed [12:09] Techrights-sec2 checking [12:09] Techrights-sec2 ack [12:09] Techrights-sec2 git is a bit complicated in most situations and the EXT file systems don't make [12:09] Techrights-sec2 shared work easier [12:16] *psydruid (~psydruid@jevhxkzmtrbww.irc) has left #boycottnovell [12:18] schestowitz-TR yay. I've just made my firust successful page update. [12:18] schestowitz-TR it's the one that says "UDPATEDx1" in the front page [12:18] schestowitz-TR I had to run the refresh script after that for chasnges to take effect [12:18] schestowitz-TR next I will try your new util [12:18] schestowitz-TR I am guessing that to "bump it up" I'd have to change the date too [12:18] schestowitz-TR in quiterss the update is not detected as I think it checks the url in the entry, which is the same, [12:18] schestowitz-TR not the title change [12:18] schestowitz-TR but different rss readers behave differentlty [12:19] *Despatche has quit (Quit: Read error: Connection reset by deer) [12:21] Techrights-sec2 excellent [12:21] Techrights-sec2 It should be in the feed by the modification date [12:21] Techrights-sec2 Within any given date though, things are sorted by record number. [12:21] Techrights-sec2 So it's there, there' just no hour:minute tracking [12:21] Techrights-sec2 a timestamp could be added to the keys table maybe [12:21] Techrights-sec2 ok thanks, it is best to keep it as simple as possible [12:21] Techrights-sec2 oh, I suppose there should be db locking for writes so that there are [12:21] Techrights-sec2 not problems like a race condition when (if) two edit at the same moment [12:23] schestowitz-TR no need, the schema can stay simple for a simple site/s [12:23] schestowitz-TR being able to post today's howtos as clusters helps compact the "bulletin" [12:23] schestowitz-TR while at the same time having a fast burst of updates [12:23] schestowitz-TR with indicating of when new stuff is added [12:23] schestowitz-TR like a dozen stories about some system76 announcement [12:23] schestowitz-TR i would have imagine that this is dealy with (lcokin) at the DB level, like queing up write operations [12:23] schestowitz-TR but I don't know much about sqlite, we use postgres at work and I used mysql since ~2000 a lot [12:23] schestowitz-TR sqlite is a quiet giant [12:24] *psydruid (~psydruid@jevhxkzmtrbww.irc) has joined #boycottnovell [12:24] Techrights-sec2 I'll need to rearrange the internal workflow quite a bit for that one [12:24] Techrights-sec2 script, but I think it is a good idea to get that fixed [12:28] schestowitz-TR so far it has been sufficientl.y robust from the users' end, in the sense that what's there does not break [12:28] schestowitz-TR except last night when I ran the two commands or just one and then all the pages temporarily vanished [12:28] schestowitz-TR the update mechanisms are great and importanty [12:28] schestowitz-TR evenmn Gulag NOISE USED (used!) to cluster stories [12:28] schestowitz-TR it got worse over time [12:28] schestowitz-TR now, in rss, it does not provide excewprts [12:28] schestowitz-TR I think for legal reasons (fair use litigation) [12:28] schestowitz-TR but to see ALL the important stories reader rely on clustering, such as howtos all in one place [12:28] schestowitz-TR programming in one place, ordered by language etc. [12:28] schestowitz-TR next, I will try the new data entry util you made [12:28] schestowitz-TR I just need to find material to enter, it's not longer a "junk" site to have a knock on [12:28] schestowitz-TR btw, in apache configs I comments out 8 lines (4 http, 4 https) in case we want to restrict some things again [12:28] schestowitz-TR this morning when I checked access logs it was around 4k lines [12:31] *Noisytoot has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [12:39] *Noisytoot (~noisytoot@y56qsb6r6yg94.irc) has joined #boycottnovell [12:40] schestowitz-TR using the new script, it yielded the 30th record [12:40] schestowitz-TR the front page was updated [12:40] schestowitz-TR but the page itself (the new page) is 404 [12:40] schestowitz-TR so maybe missing a step [12:40] schestowitz-TR it's the linky you sent me, open source xplained [12:40] schestowitz-TR at the top [12:40] Techrights-sec2 I saw the Apache2 configuration change. [12:40] Techrights-sec2 what is the URL for the problem page? I can check [12:40] Techrights-sec2 checking [12:40] schestowitz-TR thanks [12:41] Techrights-sec2 yep a step was skipped, puzzling since I recall writing it in [12:41] Techrights-sec2 fixing ... [12:42] schestowitz-TR thanks, I noticed it now defaults to submitted using "Tux Machines" [12:42] schestowitz-TR or should I run this xcript with my personal account, "roy", instead? [12:44] Techrights-sec2 ok corrected script [12:44] Techrights-sec2 defaults can be overridden but it takes the name from the $USER info [12:50] schestowitz-TR it has shaped up to the point where rianne just needs to log in as rianne, run [12:50] schestowitz-TR one comment, it autocompletes most things, "tidy"[ies] it up and then she can check the outcome [12:50] schestowitz-TR I think marius is not checking his protonmail account, it might be years old [12:50] schestowitz-TR he's a very nice person btw [12:50] schestowitz-TR very reliable and principled too [12:50] schestowitz-TR will never cover microsoft shit, ever [12:50] schestowitz-TR i think it's part of the problem he had at softpedia [12:52] Techrights-sec2 yes [12:52] Techrights-sec2 good to hear [12:52] Techrights-sec2 too bad, it's a shame so many sell out and/or fall for the lies [12:52] Techrights-sec2 it's not that the lies are believable it's just that some are so eager to [12:52] Techrights-sec2 bend reality to believe the lies [12:52] *wallacer (~quassel@6bsu33ajs4zs4.irc) has joined #boycottnovell [12:53] schestowitz-TR now softpedia is all but officially a dead site [12:53] schestowitz-TR you'll never see it [12:53] schestowitz-TR they started their own death spiral [12:53] schestowitz-TR btw, lxer aired out story, part iii, re security [12:53] schestowitz-TR 95% of gnu/linux users don't trust microsoft [12:53] schestowitz-TR but they are not in "publishers" [12:53] schestowitz-TR don't pass muster [12:53] Techrights-sec2 I'm surprised it is such a low number ;) [12:56] schestowitz-TR imho [12:56] schestowitz-TR there are two (or more) types of "linux users" [12:56] schestowitz-TR people who use it "at work" on some server but use windows/mac on a laptop [12:56] schestowitz-TR and people who actually univerally gnu/linux users [12:56] schestowitz-TR the former are the "practical" types who call the latters zealots [12:56] Techrights-sec2 the CSS still needs tweaking for some of the posts ??? [12:56] schestowitz-TR because it's "only for geeks" [12:56] schestowitz-TR that's because gnu/linux became so dominant in servers that they always deploy to it [12:57] schestowitz-TR even from some mac witrh electron or whatnot [12:57] schestowitz-TR and then they use LF, OSI etc. to wield influence [12:57] schestowitz-TR they are "linux tourists" [12:58] schestowitz-TR wait, no, it was worse as it took down the bodiy of the page to the bottom, BELOW 9to5Linux [12:59] schestowitz-TR one thing i noticed, in some browsers (a day ago in quiterss, maybe resolved already), [12:59] schestowitz-TR if the title of a post is very long it would rather push out the right-hand pane to the botton of the page than expand the title (headline) to a second/third line [12:59] schestowitz-TR depending on the browser [12:59] schestowitz-TR wait, no, it was worse as it took down the bodiy of the page to the bottom, BELOW 9to5Linux ● Jul 26 [13:00] Techrights-sec2 yes I would like it to do that but don't know how; I spent quite bit of time [13:00] Techrights-sec2 on just that, last week, but made no progress. [13:00] Techrights-sec2 the way to experiment with that is not via the live CSS nor the live scripts [13:00] Techrights-sec2 but to save a copy of one of the posts locally and work on it in the local [13:00] Techrights-sec2 file system without a web server; however, after spending quite a bit of time [13:00] Techrights-sec2 on it, I was still no closer to the desired result; [13:03] schestowitz-TR I have had this problem in my personal blog,as the engines that are not gecko render the side menu always at the bottom [13:03] schestowitz-TR the same thing happened with techrights wiki sidebar [13:03] schestowitz-TR a decade later I didn't find a solution and hardly pursued one [13:03] schestowitz-TR the web is too complex [13:03] schestowitz-TR you change nothing in your site [13:03] schestowitz-TR then opera renders it wrong [13:03] schestowitz-TR then chromne [13:03] schestowitz-TR and then chrome becomes almost every browser [13:03] schestowitz-TR so your old page suddenly looks "wrong" [13:03] schestowitz-TR lwn always kept it simple and it seems to work well on many devices [13:03] schestowitz-TR what they wrote about wipo was biased and disappointin [13:03] schestowitz-TR they have quite a history doing this... [13:03] schestowitz-TR Corbet was author... LF [13:08] Techrights-sec2 ack [13:08] Techrights-sec2 as predicted the Xbox was / is a testbed for DRM in commodity hardware [13:08] schestowitz-TR not just xbox [13:09] schestowitz-TR the tpm ambitions go a long way back [13:10] *DaemonFC has quit (Quit: ChatZilla 0.13 [SeaMonkey 2.53.13/20220708150114]) [13:10] Techrights-sec2 yes but the Xbox, specifically, was a step along that road and very clear [13:10] Techrights-sec2 about what their long term goals were; [13:10] Techrights-sec2 They also went after a BIOS maker long prior to UEFI [13:11] schestowitz-TR TR covered the Pheonix affairs several times [13:11] schestowitz-TR and said it was about locking things down [13:11] schestowitz-TR it was around 2008 or 2009 [13:11] schestowitz-TR half a decade before security threatre geneticiss as a mole [13:12] Techrights-sec2 yes; sadly when such attacks appear as incremental changes or as "too technical" [13:12] Techrights-sec2 then the public not just lets the attacks slide but eventually come to embrace [13:12] Techrights-sec2 them after 18 months or so [13:14] schestowitz-TR it is an eternal fight-back [13:14] schestowitz-TR china won't take shit [13:14] schestowitz-TR and so you can hope that on a national level these measures will be thwarted [13:14] schestowitz-TR like germany turning down UEFI sec theatre [13:14] schestowitz-TR and russia putting in the bin some so-called 'IP' [13:14] schestowitz-TR china can reverse-engineer and how the know-how for making the same chips [13:14] schestowitz-TR sans the BS [13:14] schestowitz-TR like the TN physical machine, which lacks the ME [13:14] schestowitz-TR *TM [13:16] Techrights-sec2 China wants the same control but with them in charge so they don't object [13:16] Techrights-sec2 to the technology as much as about who is holding the reins [13:16] Techrights-sec2 soon lacking the ME or the TPM3 or the Pluton will be deemed illegal [13:16] Techrights-sec2 just like whitebox PCs were deemed illegal by bought-and-paid-for politicians [13:16] Techrights-sec2 around the globe [13:18] schestowitz-TR being naked (PC) in public is indecent, at the very least [13:18] schestowitz-TR and not buying a PC encumbered with Bill and Lolita Gates malware [13:18] schestowitz-TR is a sign of sympathy for ISIS [13:18] schestowitz-TR also: according to Bill and Lolita Gates, encryption should be illegal, [13:18] schestowitz-TR except when Bill and Lolita Gates use it [13:18] schestowitz-TR and in Twitter criticising the death cult of Bill and Lolita Gates is [13:18] schestowitz-TR also illegal [13:18] schestowitz-TR and will get you repeate4dly suspended [13:18] schestowitz-TR until you stop mentioning the Bill and Lolita Gates Foundation [13:18] schestowitz-TR and how it profits from death [13:18] Techrights-sec2 or some such excuse though the politicians seem to gain from allowing the daesh [13:18] Techrights-sec2 to spread and increase [13:18] Techrights-sec2 yep [13:18] Techrights-sec2 I've noticed that [13:18] Techrights-sec2 for a long time [13:18] Techrights-sec2 same for Reddit, where Bill's minions control most of the forums [13:19] Techrights-sec2 and subforums [13:21] schestowitz-TR I've noticed how, since Pro Publica bagged bribes from Bill and Lolita Gates Foundation [13:21] schestowitz-TR it still write about tax evasion and oligarchs but leaps over the mention of Bill [13:21] schestowitz-TR and stop its seires about the Microsoft IRS affairs [13:21] schestowitz-TR the corrupting power of money [13:21] schestowitz-TR to me, Pro Publica is something that used to be good, [13:21] schestowitz-TR Lessign was a big fan of it [13:21] schestowitz-TR but funding must have run low (very few new stories, shorter ones, less impact) [13:21] schestowitz-TR and so they fail to see what a libility Epstein-stained green paper will entail [13:34] psydruid will backdoored hardware be outlawed in all societies? [13:35] psydruid what about smaller semiconductor companies who aren't in on the scheme? [13:44] schestowitz-TR they will tolerate some [13:45] schestowitz-TR as long as or until it becomes "unberable" risk to the ruling class [13:45] schestowitz-TR this is how they also treat the media and WBer [13:47] schestowitz-TR *unbearable [13:47] schestowitz-TR secure technologyu means stuff like endless EPO leaks [13:47] schestowitz-TR which they cannot put an end to [13:47] schestowitz-TR as they have no bloody clue whoi does what [13:47] schestowitz-TR and this is why we get loads of material [13:47] schestowitz-TR andf nobody is ever caught [13:49] *psydruid (~psydruid@jevhxkzmtrbww.irc) has left #boycottnovell [13:49] *psydruid (~psydruid@jevhxkzmtrbww.irc) has joined #boycottnovell [13:51] Techrights-sec2 ack [13:51] schestowitz-TR Well Bill Gates also "Cashed in During COVID", but Pro Publica took bribes from this famous criminal, so no articles in Pro Publica about that https://www.propublica.org/article/cemetery-long-island-pinela Well Bill Gates also "Cashed in During COVID", but Pro Publica took bribes from this famous criminal, so no articles in Pro Publica about that https://www.propublica.org/article/cemetery-long- [13:51] schestowitz-TR island-pinelawn-lockes-pinelawn | Source: Pro Publicawn-lockes-pinelawn | Source: Pro Publica [13:51] -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell- ( status 404 @ https://www.propublica.org/article/cemetery-long-island-pinela No Pubica [13:55] psydruid it seems most IT jobs are in surveillance companies directly or indirectly these days [13:55] psydruid and that's called having a career [13:56] schestowitz-TR that's correct [13:56] schestowitz-TR not just spying [13:56] schestowitz-TR military in general; [13:56] schestowitz-TR I did a one hour video about it a few months ago [13:56] schestowitz-TR part of a serie [13:56] schestowitz-TR based on a source who worked in one such company [13:57] schestowitz-TR I will continue that series some day [13:57] schestowitz-TR remember how much capital the US regime sink into "defense" each year [13:57] schestowitz-TR that money ends up in some private companies which offer 6-figure and 7-figure salaeries [13:57] schestowitz-TR while the nation itself is drowning in debt it can never pay back ● Jul 26 [14:00] psydruid you are considered a failure, if you don't go for such a 6-figure or 7-figure salary yourself [14:01] psydruid because if you don't, other people will and have "great" lives [14:01] psydruid by selling your soul out to the highest bidder [14:02] schestowitz-TR yes, but they use the wrong yardstick [14:02] schestowitz-TR I pity them [14:03] schestowitz-TR all their work is not theirs [14:03] schestowitz-TR they're also working very tiring, long hour [14:03] schestowitz-TR *hours [14:03] schestowitz-TR Techrights-sec2: [14:03] schestowitz-TR the all-in-one script for registering a new page has worked flawlessly, I've just had something to test it with [14:03] schestowitz-TR rianne's laptop is still offline, so she probably focuses on chatting with her widow aunt [14:03] schestowitz-TR no smell of cooking this afternoon :( [14:03] schestowitz-TR but she took the cooking book we received to read on the train [14:13] Techrights-sec2 ack [14:19] schestowitz-TR there is some decent food available, but not much [14:19] schestowitz-TR when ti runs out I can use cereal, peanuts, and mixed nuts as fallbacks [14:20] schestowitz-TR but would rather pace down consumption of the "proper" foods, esp. fruit and veg [14:20] schestowitz-TR I did not eat healthy as a student [14:20] schestowitz-TR and probably pay for it to this day [14:20] schestowitz-TR larry lessig used to incorporate into his talks the old story about the [14:20] schestowitz-TR warning that digital machines would harm the vocal chords [14:20] schestowitz-TR by discouraging people learning how to sing and use their voice [14:20] schestowitz-TR to entertain peers [14:20] schestowitz-TR I think the same is true for cooking now, esp. with processed food [14:20] schestowitz-TR it's more expensive to bake a cake now than to make a fresh one on one's own [14:20] schestowitz-TR never mind the cost of time [14:20] schestowitz-TR and with overworked labour forces that won't improve [14:20] schestowitz-TR and kids are now educated or raised by gadgets instead of proper parenting [14:20] schestowitz-TR which is a cascading effects of sorts [14:20] schestowitz-TR my mom bemoans [redacted] having kids that he does not know how to raised, s [14:20] schestowitz-TR spends no time with, spends no money on [14:20] schestowitz-TR and as a part-time working mom who devoted her life to the kids (I was the favourite) [14:20] schestowitz-TR she finds this inexcsusable that people would turn out like this [14:20] schestowitz-TR a chain of beating parents are not chains of totally cluelless parents who have [14:20] schestowitz-TR neither time nor clue about raising kids, so corporations fill up the vacuum [14:20] schestowitz-TR with Skinner boxes [14:21] schestowitz-TR preservatives that contain a lot of sodium (iirc) are not good for the gut, but practical [sic] in "fast-moving" "always-on" world [14:34] Techrights-sec2 ack [14:34] Techrights-sec2 yes kids are raised by companies via the gadgets and have many times [14:34] Techrights-sec2 more contact hours per day with the companies' agendas than they do with [14:34] Techrights-sec2 their own peers and family combined. Then if you consider that their peers [14:34] Techrights-sec2 are subjected to the same indoctrination, the effect is even stronger. [14:34] schestowitz-TR can you chain refresh-site-from-db to update page, please? [14:34] schestowitz-TR I've just added a second lump of howtos [14:34] schestowitz-TR and needed to run refresh to apply the changes to the static file (from DB) [14:34] schestowitz-TR now we can update stuff more rapidly, "UPDATEx[number]" might become common [14:35] schestowitz-TR I assume that changing the date will help bump it back up to current date [14:35] schestowitz-TR as the DB scans for current date or rather the script scans the DB based on this kield [14:35] schestowitz-TR *field [14:35] schestowitz-TR I don't know what the primary key is, but I assume page ID#, sequential [14:46] Techrights-sec2 refreshed [14:46] Techrights-sec2 btw look at https://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/07/26/Open_Source_Explained.shtml [14:46] Techrights-sec2 with CSS there is no need for a linked image [14:46] Techrights-sec2 I'll add a wrapper script like for the new records [14:46] -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-news.tuxmachines.org | Open Source Explained [14:49] schestowitz-TR in 2020 we rebuilt the front page of TR to contain nothing more than a single HTML file [14:49] schestowitz-TR and you made your second, fluid version for narrow devices like fonts [14:49] schestowitz-TR they are still accessed a great deal [14:49] schestowitz-TR I think that if the new tuxmachines is less than 100kb for each page [14:49] schestowitz-TR and even linked images are rescaled at the server side (not the browser) it'll make navigation very much better [14:49] schestowitz-TR at the moment it's easy to move between the last nodes as if they were a photo album [14:49] schestowitz-TR if later on we add a gemini directory, say /g/ [14:49] schestowitz-TR the images won't be of use anyway, unless they're linked to from the same directory, a local directory, with another protocol [14:50] Techrights-sec2 update-and-refresh-from-db.sh [14:50] Techrights-sec2 it takes a url as an option iif it works [14:52] schestowitz-TR that script works, yes... and I assume amending the date would act as a "sticky note" for pages that keep updating for days [14:52] schestowitz-TR to append further links on same topic/theme [14:52] schestowitz-TR to compact things [14:52] schestowitz-TR google used to do a decent job at it until around 2011 [14:52] schestowitz-TR Gulag Noise... before the Noise outweighed the signal [14:52] schestowitz-TR they sabotaged their own "product" (disservice) [14:52] schestowitz-TR partly for legal reasons, I think [14:55] Techrights-sec2 the date modified gets updated so the updated records will appear in the [14:55] Techrights-sec2 batch of recent posts, but currently that is a fixed number so if it is 11 out [14:55] Techrights-sec2 of 10 allowed it will not show up. The script perhaps ought to be modified [14:55] Techrights-sec2 so that it is n records or m days worth of records, whichever is larger [14:55] schestowitz-TR I noticed that and thought 10 might be too small, given the "cheapness" of just an itemised list of plain URLs with short text [14:55] schestowitz-TR those are good from a usability and crawling POV ● Jul 26 [15:04] Techrights-sec2 yes 10 is too small [15:04] Techrights-sec2 Ok, it;s increased to 15 for now until the OR can be added. [15:04] Techrights-sec2 pushing to Git in a bit [15:04] schestowitz-TR oh, very nice! 100% css, works in falkon [15:04] schestowitz-TR librewold (gecko) also [15:04] schestowitz-TR I'll need to update our temnplates [15:04] schestowitz-TR rianne's also [15:04] schestowitz-TR and the script that vomits out that template [15:04] schestowitz-TR hang on... [15:04] schestowitz-TR oih, wait [15:04] schestowitz-TR that would then not work across in the "old" site [15:05] schestowitz-TR so not yet [15:05] schestowitz-TR my irc checker has just output 5 new links, so I assume that alkso expanded the scope of the xml file to 15 (from 10) [15:09] Techrights-sec2 yes [15:09] Techrights-sec2 ^ it's increased to 15 for now uintil the OR can be added to the approriate [15:09] Techrights-sec2 script [15:09] schestowitz-TR coming to think of it, the irc checker can double up as a downtime alerter at a later stage [15:09] schestowitz-TR for now all the monitoring I have is tmux on cavan [15:09] schestowitz-TR our gemini capsule is 100% uptime since the major power outage [15:09] schestowitz-TR I monitor is constantly [15:09] schestowitz-TR dns needing update it the biggest risk [15:09] schestowitz-TR *is [15:10] *u-amarsh04 has quit (Quit: Konversation terminated!) [15:11] *u-amarsh04 (~amarsh04@freenode-rmogvn.g0d7.dtdf.mc4289.IP) has joined #boycottnovell [15:11] *u-amarsh04 (~amarsh04@5tcc2vuaj9aks.irc) has joined #boycottnovell [15:15] schestowitz-TR just checked some of the bash wrappers to perl [15:15] schestowitz-TR to see if dialog fits (it does not) [15:15] schestowitz-TR your code is very neatly written and organised [15:15] schestowitz-TR compared to mine [15:15] schestowitz-TR but if I put more time/effort into mine, it would improve [15:15] schestowitz-TR a lot of TM and TR became your force multipliers [15:15] schestowitz-TR up until 2018 most stuff was manual [15:15] schestowitz-TR i used dialog to amke some ncurses UIs for rianne [15:15] schestowitz-TR and that saves her time [15:15] schestowitz-TR she does not use git, but she now saves files to a repo of shared files, which automates backups [15:15] schestowitz-TR and makes sharing stuff very simple [15:22] Techrights-sec2 the neatness is actually the quick way to write it [15:22] Techrights-sec2 I'm not sure ncurses would help here but I have no objection to it [15:22] Techrights-sec2 if it can fit into the work flow AND there is insistence on it [15:24] schestowitz-TR dialogue only comes in hjandy for non free-form text input [15:24] schestowitz-TR like "select from the following users" [15:24] schestowitz-TR for tuxmachines it would not add anything [15:24] schestowitz-TR with the browser I sometimes streamline the postings using multiple tacs [15:24] schestowitz-TR but the drupal UI is not optimal.. far from it [15:24] schestowitz-TR *tabs [15:26] *psydruid (~psydruid@jevhxkzmtrbww.irc) has left #boycottnovell [15:26] *psydruid (~psydruid@jevhxkzmtrbww.irc) has joined #boycottnovell [15:43] Techrights-sec2 sure the kiwi-irc applet and other clients can be of use there [15:43] Techrights-sec2 there are still permission problems with the way we have Git, some further [15:43] Techrights-sec2 planning is needed to streamline it [15:45] schestowitz-TR re irc page in new site, should we add the kiwi-irc applet there? [15:45] schestowitz-TR something similar to "old"? [15:45] schestowitz-TR I was about to say, if you set up the html file for that page, then I can dump the stuff into it via git [15:45] schestowitz-TR btw, new pages don't have the favicon stuff in them yet [15:45] schestowitz-TR so I was guessing you did not pull those changes in to prod. [15:45] schestowitz-TR I tried last night and was horribly confused [15:47] Techrights-sec2 the IRC page has a placeholder. I'll look at the Favicon stuff now [15:47] Techrights-sec2 (just pushed script changes to Git too) [15:48] schestowitz-TR did yhou add/push irc template/placeholdder? [15:48] schestowitz-TR I've pulled, grep'ed "irc" a [15:48] schestowitz-TR and nothing in git show either [15:48] Techrights-sec2 just made a hardlink from the Icon for favicon.ico [15:48] Techrights-sec2 not yet, I'll add the IRC placeholder [15:59] Techrights-sec2 np [15:59] Techrights-sec2 Git is trouble again, but working on it ... ● Jul 26 [16:00] *techrights_guest|68 (~5ed21ae0@54n9xgft8g6u2.irc) has joined #boycottnovell [16:01] schestowitz-TR cheers! [16:01] schestowitz-TR git will be replaced by something that promises to do the same core stuff while keeping it simple [16:01] schestowitz-TR like sequoia for pgp [16:01] schestowitz-TR software has this lifecycle that leads to sucking at some stage [16:01] schestowitz-TR the www reached that point as well [16:01] *techrights_guest|68 has quit (Quit: Connection closed) [16:05] Techrights-sec2 ok pushed to Git [16:05] Techrights-sec2 sequoia looks promising [16:05] Techrights-sec2 but it is needed in Thunderbird but Mitchell Baker is killing Thunderbird [16:05] Techrights-sec2 through active neglect and chasing irrelevant goals, perhaps at the behest [16:05] Techrights-sec2 of her paymaster, Google [16:05] Techrights-sec2 yep a poison kitchen [16:05] schestowitz-TR a baker in Gulag's "poison kitchen" [16:05] schestowitz-TR let's get rid of rss [16:05] schestowitz-TR who needs it anyway? [16:05] schestowitz-TR get rid of xul too [16:05] schestowitz-TR extensions arend't need, we need ads [16:05] schestowitz-TR pocket for spying on bookmarks.,.. "DATZ DE SHIT!!" [16:05] schestowitz-TR pushed irc file [16:05] schestowitz-TR can you pull/deploy? [16:05] schestowitz-TR or tell me how to do that most safely? [16:06] Techrights-sec2 tm-generate-feed.pl now does an OR of the sets produced by -d and -n if [16:06] Techrights-sec2 they are both used at the same time; [16:09] Techrights-sec2 I have no idea, the permissions are still a mess [16:09] Techrights-sec2 try from your account [16:09] Techrights-sec2 git commit -m 'relevant commment' irc.shtml [16:09] Techrights-sec2 git push origin HEAD:master [16:09] Techrights-sec2 that might work [16:09] schestowitz-TR I pushed it OK, I just don't know how to pull in the changes from the server side, even selectively for that file [16:09] schestowitz-TR I reckon some accounts like tuxmachines [16:09] schestowitz-TR lack direct access to some of these files [16:09] Techrights-sec2 great [16:09] Techrights-sec2 git pull origin master [16:11] schestowitz-TR ok, that worked from your end, with some screen sizes itg looks better than with others... testing... [16:11] schestowitz-TR btw, kiwiirc uses clownflare, but that affects only this one page [16:11] schestowitz-TR somehax0r told me [16:11] *techrights_guest|83 (~519aab65@54n9xgft8g6u2.irc) has joined #boycottnovell [16:11] *techrights_guest|83 has quit (Quit: Connection closed) [16:14] Techrights-sec2 ack [16:14] schestowitz-TR Michael Larabel has just changed his profile picture in all Phoronix pages to https://www.phoronix.com/assets/categories/michaellarabel.webp [16:15] Techrights-sec2 he's not looking happy any more, perhaps because of the fallout from selling out [16:15] Techrights-sec2 and what the act of selling out did to him inside [16:16] schestowitz-TR he gained a lot of weight, but this photo does not show it [16:16] schestowitz-TR I saw him [16:16] schestowitz-TR he has a bit of a beer belly [16:16] schestowitz-TR he used to be very thin [16:19] Techrights-sec2 as well as what it did to his reader base [16:19] Techrights-sec2 I hope his health is ok and that he can recover both physically and morally [16:22] schestowitz-TR wife lost job [16:22] schestowitz-TR baby born [16:22] schestowitz-TR wait, opposite order [16:22] schestowitz-TR the order matters [16:22] schestowitz-TR and then power bills up sharply [16:22] schestowitz-TR and many readers tight with money [16:22] schestowitz-TR which lwn said caused many casncelations in the wake of covid [16:22] schestowitz-TR to his credit, he is VERY hard-working [16:22] schestowitz-TR just no longer as principled [16:23] schestowitz-TR I think dire straits [16:23] schestowitz-TR a year or two ago he turned to slashdot.org in search of traffic [16:23] schestowitz-TR submitting his stgories there, as did SJVN 'fan club' (LF) [16:23] schestowitz-TR same trajectory as spamnil [16:23] schestowitz-TR except I cannot accuse Larabel of clickfraud [16:23] schestowitz-TR which spamnil is not "doping" on [16:23] schestowitz-TR he must be in a panic [16:23] schestowitz-TR his guests seeing their viewcount barely exceeds 10 people [16:23] schestowitz-TR rianne has a thing or two to say about "pretentiousness" of "his" [something racist] [16:24] Techrights-sec2 ack [16:24] Techrights-sec2 the *refresh.sh scripts are updated to do a union of the last two days worth [16:24] Techrights-sec2 of posts OR the last 15 posts, whichever set is larger [16:24] Techrights-sec2 np [16:24] Techrights-sec2 One can hope. Maybe there will be a return to some special posts like the [16:24] Techrights-sec2 reviews or similar [16:25] *britney (~britney@muarsy2vret2q.irc) has joined #boycottnovell [16:26] schestowitz-TR excellent, thanks! [16:26] schestowitz-TR I reckon this site got a shot in the arm for another decade [16:26] schestowitz-TR and adding gemini will be easy, I have enough experience to add it fast later, once there are .gmi files [16:26] schestowitz-TR then we can add the git repo, reusing the stuff from TR 'UI' [16:26] schestowitz-TR wordpress and drupal can be rigid in a number of ways [16:26] schestowitz-TR with this cms it's a blank sheet [16:26] schestowitz-TR so all sorts of publication forms are possible [16:26] schestowitz-TR though I'dnot overdo HTML5 [16:26] schestowitz-TR it would defeat the purpose [16:33] schestowitz how newswaffle sees it: gemini://gemi.dev/cgi-bin/waffle.cgi/view?http%3A//news.tuxmachines.org [16:33] Techrights-sec2 ack [16:35] Techrights-sec2 newswaffle seems to work [16:35] schestowitz-TR the "old" site seems too noisy for it to figure out where the main content is, in either modes [16:36] schestowitz-TR tuxmachines is a site from the php-nuke generation [16:36] schestowitz-TR where "smart" phone were not a thing yet and certain stuff like web forums was favoured over [16:36] schestowitz-TR few centralised BS mills like reddit and FB [16:38] schestowitz-TR Phoronix has just gone offline. Even clownflare cannot reach it. Yes, it outsourced to this malCDN. [16:38] Techrights-sec2 none of this has been exained properly on a mobile device yet [16:40] Techrights-sec2 :( [16:41] schestowitz-TR it's back now [16:41] schestowitz-TR but it was def. down for a bit [16:41] schestowitz-TR phoronix has high revenue demands because it feeds 3 people and many full racks that run at max capacity while biden fist-bumps mr. tandoori oil [16:41] Techrights-sec2 :( [16:41] Techrights-sec2 ack [16:53] *Despatche (~desp@u3xy9z2ifjzci.irc) has joined #boycottnovell [16:57] *rianne_ (~rianne@k66x6u69vmfv8.irc) has joined #boycottnovell [16:57] *rianne_ (~rianne@freenode-310.q8k.ese45h.IP) has joined #boycottnovell [16:58] *liberty_box_ (~liberty@k66x6u69vmfv8.irc) has joined #boycottnovell ● Jul 26 [17:00] *liberty_box (~liberty@k66x6u69vmfv8.irc) has joined #boycottnovell [17:18] schestowitz-TR Linux Foundation would have you believe Microsoft (crime) is "community" and GitHub is "Open Source", never mind the brand "Linux" being misused for greenwashing: "Learn more about the OS-Climate community on GitHub." https://www.fosslife.org/os-climate-releases-3-tools-tackling-climate-change [17:18] -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-www.fosslife.org | OS-Climate Releases 3 Tools for Tackling Climate Change [17:23] Techrights-sec2 ack [17:43] *psydroid2 (~psydroid@memzbmehf99re.irc) has joined #boycottnovell ● Jul 26 [18:20] psydroid2 I presume aggi activelow [18:20] psydroid2 he's asking questions in Liberia now [18:21] psydroid2 is* [18:51] britney "That's crazy man. Have you ever tried DMT?" - Joe Rogan ● Jul 26 [19:20] schestowitz-TR potewntial edge case just detected [19:20] schestowitz-TR scare quote or single quote in headline makes ' in URL [19:20] schestowitz-TR in some cases it works OK [19:20] schestowitz-TR with the rss feed, in quiterss, it stops at ' [19:20] schestowitz-TR so maybe needs same treatment as / [19:20] schestowitz-TR omission [19:20] schestowitz-TR psydroid2: which channel/s? [19:21] Techrights-sec2 can you point to a URL ? [19:21] psydroid2 schestowitz-TR, #linux-sunxi [19:21] psydroid2 his last message was a few hours ago [19:21] psydroid2 I wasn't around myself [19:21] schestowitz-TR yes, front page under "Security:" [19:22] Techrights-sec2 checking [19:24] Techrights-sec2 The feed is getting constructed correctlky AFAIK. The problem may be with [19:24] Techrights-sec2 QuiteRSS. It is possible to add in an escape for that character though. [19:25] schestowitz-TR if you add the xml url to quite rss, you will see [19:25] schestowitz-TR I wonder if some browsers too would struggle [19:25] schestowitz-TR any sort of quote inside a url can lead to ambiguity [19:25] schestowitz-TR same for spaces unless %20 [19:25] Techrights-sec2 It still validates. I can look at an escape for that char. [19:28] Techrights-sec2 I'm really starting to dislike how git fails to work in a shared environemnt [19:28] Techrights-sec2 it only really safely works when there is one, and only one, account per clone [19:28] Techrights-sec2 or checkout [19:35] schestowitz-TR i am guessing there was some rolllback as I've just noticed that the irc page isn't there at the moment [19:35] *rianne_ has quit (connection closed) [19:35] *liberty_box has quit (Quit: Leaving) [19:35] *rianne (~rianne@freenode-310.q8k.ese45h.IP) has joined #boycottnovell [19:35] *rianne_ has quit (Connection closed) [19:35] *rianne_ (~rianne@k66x6u69vmfv8.irc) has joined #boycottnovell ● Jul 26 [20:23] *britney has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [20:38] *DaemonFC (~chatzilla@m5c7ce8bffjme.irc) has joined #boycottnovell [20:57] *britney (~britney@muarsy2vret2q.irc) has joined #boycottnovell ● Jul 26 [21:09] *psydroid2 has quit (connection closed) [21:09] *psydroid2 (~psydroid@memzbmehf99re.irc) has joined #boycottnovell [21:11] Techrights-sec2 If I get more frustrated I will wipe Git and start ove, it seems to be losing [21:11] Techrights-sec2 a *lot* of work the last hours. [21:11] Techrights-sec2 the irc page should still be there [21:11] Techrights-sec2 hmm it's gone [21:11] Techrights-sec2 f*ck git [21:11] Techrights-sec2 I think I have salvaged some of it from memory but now have to find a way to [21:11] Techrights-sec2 get that back /into/ Git yet again [21:11] Techrights-sec2 try QuiteRSS again [21:11] Techrights-sec2 ok I've kind of restored the IRC page [21:11] Techrights-sec2 we'll have to re-look at how to implement the DocumentRoot as a Git clone, later [21:11] Techrights-sec2 For right now, Git is not set up to have multiple accounts editing the same clone [21:11] Techrights-sec2 So as long as the DocumentRoot allows multiple people to work on it, which is [21:11] Techrights-sec2 a good thing, there will be severe trouble shoehorning Git into it; [21:11] Techrights-sec2 More reading / testing is needed offline [21:40] schestowitz-TR I got your modified version of IRC, edited it some more, merged with the local version I had prior to the loss [21:40] schestowitz-TR I've not pushed anything yet, I keep the merge (new) file here ● Jul 26 [22:21] *psydroid2 has quit (connection closed) ● Jul 26 [23:10] schestowitz-TR All-time record today. Techrights Gemini capsule 50k page requests for the day. [23:26] *schestowitz-TR has quit (Ping timeout: 120 seconds) [23:27] *schestowitz-TR (~acer-box@freenode/user/schestowitz) has joined #boycottnovell