●● IRC: #boycottnovell @ Techrights IRC Network: Sunday, September 26, 2021 ●● ● Sep 26 [01:04] *liberty_box has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [01:04] *rianne_ has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [01:06] *rianne_ (~rianne@qhduu73fcjmdn.irc) has joined #boycottnovell [01:07] *liberty_box (~liberty@qhduu73fcjmdn.irc) has joined #boycottnovell ● Sep 26 [02:12] *liberty_box has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [02:13] *rianne_ has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [02:24] *rianne_ (~rianne@qhduu73fcjmdn.irc) has joined #boycottnovell [02:25] *liberty_box (~liberty@qhduu73fcjmdn.irc) has joined #boycottnovell [02:27] *DaemonFC has quit (Quit: Leaving) ● Sep 26 [03:59] *rianne_ has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [03:59] *liberty_box has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) ● Sep 26 [04:00] *DaemonFC (~DaemonFC@ay4sab52k6ay4.irc) has joined #boycottnovell [04:22] *liberty_box (~liberty@qhduu73fcjmdn.irc) has joined #boycottnovell [04:22] *rianne_ (~rianne@qhduu73fcjmdn.irc) has joined #boycottnovell [04:25] *rianne_ has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [04:25] *liberty_box has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [04:27] *DaemonFC has quit (connection closed) ● Sep 26 [07:43] schestowitz Dead Richard, [07:43] schestowitz Your talk in Ukraine was originally uploaded to YouTube, so we're taken the liberty to convert it to WebM and it has been viewed about 5,000 times in http://techrights.org/2021/09/21/rms-ukraine-talk/ [07:44] schestowitz The WebM file can be added to [07:44] -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-techrights.org | Richard Stallmans First Public Talk (Delivered in Person) in Years, Now With a Free Format | Techrights [07:44] schestowitz https://stallman.org/talks.html [07:44] -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-stallman.org | Talks - Richard Stallman [07:44] schestowitz http://audio-video.gnu.org/video/#2021 [07:44] -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-audio-video.gnu.org | Audio/Video - GNU Project - Free-Software Foundation [07:44] schestowitz Meanwhile, when you speak in Poland tomorrow, it's worth noting that it's the anniversary: http://techrights.org/2021/09/25/gnu-turns-38-monday/ [07:44] -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-techrights.org | Reminder: GNU Turns 38 This Monday Around Midday (When GNUs Founder Gives Talk in Poland) | Techrights [07:44] schestowitz Happy hacking, [07:56] schestowitz https://www.minds.com/newsfeed/1288100353975259146?focusedCommentUrn=urn:comment:1288100353975259146:0:0:0:1288105308178092040 [07:56] schestowitz "It's "Climate Change" propaganda enacted as policy that is causing the bulk of Global food shortages." [07:56] -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-www.minds.com | Raj Patel: Climate, Conflict and Capitalism Drive Global ... | Minds [07:56] schestowitz https://www.minds.com/newsfeed/1288101553168715790?focusedCommentUrn=urn:comment:1288101553168715790:0:0:0:1288105412712730634 [07:56] schestowitz "Technically, we're never at war with anyone. A small minority start it and another small minority fight it. The rest of the people are all at the mercy of the military industrial complex." [07:56] -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-www.minds.com | United States of War: How AUKUS Nuclear Submarine Deal Co... | Minds [07:56] schestowitz "War mongerers don't represent American or British people, they represent themselves and their interests" [07:56] schestowitz https://www.minds.com/newsfeed/1288180134406262801?focusedCommentUrn=urn:comment:1288180134406262801:0:0:0:1288181004745314317 [07:56] -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-www.minds.com | Daily summary | Coronavirus in the UK | Minds [07:56] schestowitz https://www.minds.com/newsfeed/1287077079661154308 [07:56] -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-www.minds.com | " The Truth and only the truth" that will make you free f... | Minds [07:57] schestowitz https://www.minds.com/newsfeed/1288215904382881805?focusedCommentUrn=urn:comment:1288215904382881805:0:0:0:1288713348568846345 [07:57] -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-www.minds.com | PowerShell on Linux? A primer on Object-Shells - Fedora M... | Minds [07:57] schestowitz "Is it pushing lock-in or just talking about a potentially useful tool? Considering PowerShell (not to be confused with Windows Powershell) is open-source and licensed under MIT, the threat of vendor lock-in seems minimal." [07:57] schestowitz It integrates with other stuff [07:59] schestowitz https://www.minds.com/newsfeed/1283415879702286352?focusedCommentUrn=urn:comment:1283415879702286352:0:0:0:1283472989383299080 [07:59] -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-www.minds.com | The Far Right Calls Biden a "Tyrant" Over Vaccine Rules M... | Minds [07:59] schestowitz " [07:59] schestowitz Appeal to majority, tyranny of the majority anyone? Just because most Americans back the rules, doesn't mean Biden has the authority to make them. [07:59] schestowitz thumb_up [07:59] schestowitz thumb_down [07:59] schestowitz " ● Sep 26 [08:00] schestowitz https://www.minds.com/newsfeed/1286968025974575122?focusedCommentUrn=urn:comment:1286968025974575122:0:0:0:1286971525341122567 [08:00] -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-www.minds.com | The economy of EVMs | Minds [08:00] schestowitz "No way, paper ballots is the only way to vote." [08:00] schestowitz "thats a zerg rush" [08:00] schestowitz https://www.minds.com/newsfeed/1286978209685966866?focusedCommentUrn=urn:comment:1286978209685966866:0:0:0:1286984421525688335 [08:00] -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-www.minds.com | People Are Desperate: Biden Vows Mass Deportations as T... | Minds [08:00] schestowitz https://www.minds.com/newsfeed/1287072743040225291?focusedCommentUrn=urn:comment:1287072743040225291:0:0:0:1287073026369654787 [08:00] schestowitz "I Can't stop watching doomsday films like The End of the World (1916), The War of the Worlds (1953), Strangelove or: How I Learned To Stop Worrying and Love the Bomb (1964), The day the Earth stood still (1951) The Omega Man (1971)It's like there's no tomorrow. https://www.minds.com/Talon123/blog/google-their-mission-is-to-program-humanity-1287070018336460805" [08:00] -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-www.minds.com | A lot of people who still get infected with #covid19 are ... | Minds [08:00] -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-www.minds.com | Google Their mission is to program humanity. | Minds [08:36] *liberty_box (~liberty@qhduu73fcjmdn.irc) has joined #boycottnovell [08:36] *rianne_ (~rianne@qhduu73fcjmdn.irc) has joined #boycottnovell ● Sep 26 [09:18] schestowitz [19:51] sorry for disturbing [09:18] schestowitz [19:51] while ago i had seen you supported /keyx [09:18] schestowitz [19:52] keytool? [09:18] schestowitz [19:52] fish [09:19] schestowitz [19:53] had to patch irss-fish plugin, because it segfaulted, and wanted to quickly test with a peer who supported /keyx and setkey [09:19] schestowitz [19:53] strangely your client doesn't respond to /keyx anymore [09:19] schestowitz [19:53] I'm not sure of keyx [09:19] schestowitz [19:53] I do use some CLI tools for i/o in x [09:19] schestowitz [19:54] but I'm no gurus [09:19] schestowitz [19:54] i did successfully keyx once, but your client doesn't respond anymore [09:19] schestowitz [20:15] ?OTRv23? [09:19] schestowitz [20:23] my client as in IRC, server? [09:19] schestowitz [20:23] I need to check what keyx actually is [09:19] schestowitz [20:23] end-to-end [09:19] schestowitz [20:23] oh [09:19] schestowitz [20:23] it's irc [09:19] *schestowitz has quit (Quit: Konversation terminated!) [09:20] *schestowitz (~roy@qhduu73fcjmdn.irc) has joined #boycottnovell [09:20] *irc.techrights.org sets mode +q #boycottnovell schestowitz ● Sep 26 [10:08] *rianne_ has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [10:09] *liberty_box has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [10:15] *rianne_ (~rianne@qhduu73fcjmdn.irc) has joined #boycottnovell [10:16] *liberty_box (~liberty@qhduu73fcjmdn.irc) has joined #boycottnovell [10:32] Techrights-sec IRC post - "2 hours ago Missed schedule", posted now [10:32] schestowitz-TR thanks. Are you good at accounting or reading financial statements? I read my employer's now, and some of that is too cryptic to me... [10:35] Techrights-sec not really, I usually get help with that myself [10:35] Techrights-sec How long is the statement? [10:35] Techrights-sec The trend for about 30 years has been to obfuscate the data. [10:35] Techrights-sec Many no longer have a "bottom line" at all. [10:35] Techrights-sec Some schools (MBA) teach people to cook the books and have two sets [10:35] Techrights-sec of financials, a public one for investors and anoter for tax purposes. [10:36] schestowitz-TR A few years ago I took more detailed notes, but in short: [10:36] schestowitz-TR 1. the company is not in a good state [10:36] schestowitz-TR 2. the company just turned 23 years [10:36] schestowitz-TR 3. the company keeps changing official registered names [10:36] schestowitz-TR 4. there are still at least 2 currently active [10:37] schestowitz-TR 5. the CEO a'bsconed' to the US after divorce [10:37] schestowitz-TR 6. the wife was a director, who I can see in the filing was terminated under the old company name [10:37] schestowitz-TR 7. 9 months later we were invited to sign documents for the new company name [10:38] schestowitz-TR 8. it's easy money for us, even if not much. AFAIK, the financial risk is not the workers', not a liability [10:38] schestowitz-TR 9. I used to read about how it's better to leave companies before they go under because it looks better? [10:38] schestowitz-TR thoughts? [10:43] Techrights-sec Those are the same schools which train the MBAs for "successful bankruptcies" [10:43] Techrights-sec -- plural. [10:43] Techrights-sec 9. Yes. And more practical. However, I gather a lot of hiring practice [10:43] Techrights-sec is just bizarre these days and based on superstition or other non-factual [10:43] Techrights-sec bases. [10:44] Techrights-sec Are the financials online anywhere? [10:45] *liberty_box has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [10:45] *rianne_ has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [10:45] schestowitz-TR yes [10:46] *rianne_ (~rianne@qhduu73fcjmdn.irc) has joined #boycottnovell [10:47] *liberty_box (~liberty@qhduu73fcjmdn.irc) has joined #boycottnovell [10:49] Techrights-sec Thanks. Will look but it may take a day or so. [10:50] schestowitz-TR Thanks, another pair or eyes can help. bear in mind we get paid about 80-100 pounds net (after tax) for very little work, for me no more than an hour per shift. Net work. [10:50] schestowitz-TR They can barely come to us with demands for fear of losing key staff ● Sep 26 [11:09] *DaemonFC (~DaemonFC@wrvs7xs7gk58s.irc) has joined #boycottnovell [11:10] *liberty_box has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [11:10] *rianne_ has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [11:14] schestowitz x https://www.techzim.co.zw/2021/09/if-you-install-windows-11-on-an-unsupported-pc-you-will-not-get-updates/ [11:14] schestowitz # fails to mention upgrades to GNU/Linux [11:14] -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-www.techzim.co.zw | If you install Windows 11 on an unsupported PC, you will not get updates - Techzim [11:15] schestowitz I saw the article last night and added it to TM because almost half of it actually DOES advocate gnu/linux [11:17] Techrights-sec Those are difficult to call, for me. I greatly dislike when they start out [11:17] Techrights-sec on a good track and then close off with some crap which they foist off [11:17] Techrights-sec using the credibility built up in the first part. [11:17] Techrights-sec So some I post some I dont'. Maybe it's not so important to be a stickler for [11:17] Techrights-sec detail. [11:18] schestowitz-TR my initial instinct was the same, but then I decided to dig deeper and see if gnu/linux gets a mention at all. [11:19] schestowitz re jobs, two lovely mottos I picked recently from the ibm layoff forums are, 1) you get a pay increase by working less (per hour) 2) employers pay just enough to keep you, and you work just enough to keep the job [11:25] Techrights-sec Unfortunately. Not too long ago it was good pay for good results. But that [11:25] Techrights-sec has changed across the board. It might be one of the contributing factors [11:25] Techrights-sec to the downfall and collapse of what's left of civilized society. The [11:25] Techrights-sec behavior is going already. [11:25] Techrights-sec There are hundreds of applicants for most job postings these days. [11:25] Techrights-sec With that volume, the selection process becomes very arbitrary and inaccurate. [11:25] Techrights-sec I'm not sure how much the old method of knowing people helps any more. [11:26] schestowitz-TR From what I am hearing, most people get jobs through connections and interviews are sometimes theatre for compliance purposes [11:28] Techrights-sec In some ways that is a relief to hear. It has its own downsides but [11:28] Techrights-sec at least it is possible to bring in skill that way. The other way, many [11:28] Techrights-sec get to the interview by having gamed the HR drones. [11:29] schestowitz-TR Referrals from existing insiders can help (like vouching or like debian chains of trust). My sister's partner recently got a job this way and wasn't the first. Many jobs I had over the years I got without an interview or just some very informal chat. [11:29] *rianne_ (~rianne@qhduu73fcjmdn.irc) has joined #boycottnovell [11:30] *liberty_box (~liberty@qhduu73fcjmdn.irc) has joined #boycottnovell [11:30] Techrights-sec Any that weren't downright unpleasant and/or unsafe I got that way too. [11:31] schestowitz x https://www.economist.com/science-and-technology/tomorrows-soldiers-will-have-their-reality-augmented/21804963 [11:31] -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-www.economist.com | Tomorrows soldiers will have their reality augmented | The Economist [11:31] schestowitz # handout to keep m$ afloat; [11:31] schestowitz # yet in exchange our own soldiers will die because of this m$ boondoggle [11:34] Techrights-sec Although when there is an internal candidate in mind, it is usually a waste [11:34] Techrights-sec of time to apply and compete for that one. ● Sep 26 [12:04] *psydroid3 (~psydroid@cqggrmwgu7gji.irc) has joined #boycottnovell [12:48] *liberty_box has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [12:49] *rianne_ has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [12:55] *blitzed has quit (connection closed) [12:55] *blitzed (~blitzed@z75jri9fg2z6g.irc) has joined #boycottnovell ● Sep 26 [13:04] *liberty_box (~liberty@qhduu73fcjmdn.irc) has joined #boycottnovell [13:04] *rianne_ (~rianne@qhduu73fcjmdn.irc) has joined #boycottnovell [13:30] Techrights-sec apropos the financials, it looks like there will be relevant information at [13:30] Techrights-sec the end of October. [13:31] schestowitz-TR if only I could interpret it reliably :-) [13:32] Techrights-sec Well, there is little information to interpret. ● Sep 26 [14:18] DaemonFC Debian 11 seems to work okay on my Thinkbook 15 ITL Gen2. There werre some odd ACPI errors on boot though. [14:19] DaemonFC But then again, what else is new? 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" did not mean that the appellant took the photographs, but instead that she was the subject of the photographs in question. Similarly the fact that [16:19] schestowitz we are told that "VNML took the photograph ..." turned out to be the other sense of 'took', and not the appropration sense, as would have been more usual in a case of alleged infringement. " [16:22] schestowitz https://ipkitten.blogspot.com/2021/09/the-unified-patent-court-do-we-finally.html?showComment=1632560919553 [16:22] -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-ipkitten.blogspot.com | The Unified Patent Court. Do we finally have a predictable timeline? - The IPKat [16:22] schestowitz " [16:22] schestowitz As the RPUPCA only exist as 18th draft, going back to 2015, I doubt that the commission's opinion has been requested. [16:22] schestowitz At the member of the commission in charge of the topic is one of the staunchest supporters of the UPC it will go through without batting an eyelid. [16:22] schestowitz It is not clear from the UPCA or from the PPA when the opinion of the commission has to be sought. [16:22] schestowitz " [16:25] *rianne_ has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [16:26] *liberty_box has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [16:28] *DaemonFC has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [16:30] *rianne_ (~rianne@qhduu73fcjmdn.irc) has joined #boycottnovell [16:31] *liberty_box (~liberty@qhduu73fcjmdn.irc) has joined #boycottnovell ● Sep 26 [18:00] schestowitz http://ipkitten.blogspot.com/2021/09/reasons-for-eba-referral-on.html?showComment=1632655261016#c1423943791337964639 [18:00] -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-ipkitten.blogspot.com | Reasons for an EBA referral on plausibility, post-published evidence and problem-solution - The IPKat [18:00] schestowitz " [18:01] schestowitz Accepting post published information, in order to show that an invention is enabled or to justify a broad claim, should not be taken into account as it boils down to give a premium to slapdash drafting and/or hurried filing. [18:01] schestowitz It is only when the invention is ripe that a patent application should filed and not before. [18:01] schestowitz " [18:39] *activelow has quit (Quit: rebooting) [18:40] *DaemonFC (~daemonfc@fejhrc9gvt238.irc) has joined #boycottnovell [18:44] *activelow (~activelow@7zmmwv4qqhr7u.irc) has joined #boycottnovell ● Sep 26 [19:38] *DaemonFC has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [19:59] *DaemonFC (~DaemonFC@wz4jbpvyq7zf8.irc) has joined #boycottnovell ● Sep 26 [20:03] *DaemonFC has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [20:21] schestowitz https://twitter.com/jrbrtson/status/1442197205792735233 [20:21] -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@jrbrtson: @schestowitz Embrace, extend, extinguish? [20:22] schestowitz https://twitter.com/andymorphs/status/1442153894570823680 [20:22] -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@andymorphs: @schestowitz i think its the fact that we can see the effort they're going to makes it feel like its a serious product. [20:22] schestowitz https://twitter.com/affiShiller/status/1442152065480871940 [20:22] -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@affiShiller: @schestowitz Market Red - $BETU Green [20:23] schestowitz https://twitter.com/Vecchi_Paolo/status/1441899926833680389 [20:23] -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@Vecchi_Paolo: @schestowitz No, there are no cows roaming the streets around Bologna (generally). I guess that is Bolonia in south https://t.co/GkjtZJLu45 [20:23] -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@Vecchi_Paolo: @schestowitz No, there are no cows roaming the streets around Bologna (generally). I guess that is Bolonia in south https://t.co/GkjtZJLu45 [20:23] schestowitz " [20:23] schestowitz No, there are no cows roaming the streets around Bologna (generally). [20:23] schestowitz I guess that is Bolonia in southern Spain. 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