●● IRC: #boycottnovell @ Techrights IRC Network: Saturday, November 26, 2022 ●● ● Nov 26 [00:35] Techrightssec good to hear. Mumble is very useful, especially if echo cancellation is active ● Nov 26 [04:35] schestowitz-TR Oh, god! 'Linux'Hint has just published another couple dozen WINDOWS stories, Proprietary Crap, and other stuff totally NOT related to Linux. That site has been like this throughout November. Might as well just shut the thing down! In respect to the people who USED to run it. [04:35] Techrightssec :/ [04:35] schestowitz-TR 'Linux'Hint is now run/written by people who don't know Linux, don't use Linux, and generally reject Linus [04:37] schestowitz-TR It's fair to say 'Linux'Hint is now an anti-Linux site. It promotes Windows! [04:38] schestowitz-TR draft (3 videos this mornign; one as per your suggestion) [04:49] Techrightssec checking [04:49] Techrightssec Maybe expand "EPO" for the first occurence of the acronym. [04:49] Techrightssec What channels to Eurppean citizens have to ask for oversight of the EPO? [04:50] schestowitz-TR thanks, amending [04:50] schestowitz-TR no official channels [04:50] schestowitz-TR will emntion this in next artic.e.. [04:58] Techrightssec The absence of official channels should be mentioned then, possibly along [04:58] Techrightssec with the existing, suboptimal options such as they are. ● Nov 26 [05:16] *techrights_guest|83 (~519aaba8@54n9xgft8g6u2.irc) has joined #boycottnovell [05:22] *techrights_guest|83 has quit (Quit: Connection closed) ● Nov 26 [06:04] *rianne has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [06:04] *asusbox has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [06:04] *rianne (~rianne@ubimf8izmv24i.irc) has joined #boycottnovell [06:04] *asusbox (~rianne@ubimf8izmv24i.irc) has joined #boycottnovell [06:21] *liberty_box (~liberty@freenode-r9p.jp8.7132oi.IP) has joined #boycottnovell ● Nov 26 [07:56] *u-amarsh04 has quit (Quit: Konversation terminated!) [07:56] *u-amarsh04 has quit (Quit: Konversation terminated!) ● Nov 26 [08:01] *u-amarsh04 (~amarsh04@freenode-rmogvn.g0d7.dtdf.mc4289.IP) has joined #boycottnovell [08:01] *u-amarsh04 (~amarsh04@3f4eq2qd8h8ka.irc) has joined #boycottnovell [08:06] Techrightssec it is not possible for microsofters to 'reskill' and become ICT professionals [08:06] Techrightssec because not only is the skillset incompatible but the very mindset and illogical [08:06] Techrightssec way they have of (not) organizing their thoughts is incompatible. [08:06] Techrightssec for actual ICT you need a clear and organized thought process and logic. [08:06] Techrightssec the m$ crap follows neither and is just randomly put together, thus it drives [08:06] Techrightssec away those that would even have the potential to someday become skilled in ICT. [08:06] Techrightssec that and their gatekeeper style oral tradition ensure that no one who is not [08:07] Techrightssec 100% loyal to the cult will get the essential but undocumented knowledge needed [08:07] Techrightssec to pretend to operate m$ products. thus there can be no crossover. [08:09] schestowitz-TR i do not have sufficient direct experience with microsofters inside a company [08:09] schestowitz-TR maybe I'm lucky to have dodged that [08:09] schestowitz-TR the cloest was my phd supervisor, but he more than tolerated the use of gnu/linux by his postgrad students [08:23] schestowitz-TR not to brag [08:23] schestowitz-TR and not to claim a correlation for sure [08:23] schestowitz-TR but since calling out spamnil i see he is reluctant with the clicfraud [08:23] schestowitz-TR and limits how many he does (I think he sends a list of URLs for the bots) [08:23] schestowitz-TR you can see videos almost 2 months old with less than 10 views [08:23] schestowitz-TR and he doesn't make many videoa anymore, but what owrries me nowadays [08:23] schestowitz-TR is what happened to linuxhint [08:23] schestowitz-TR today it was a net of 0% linus [08:23] schestowitz-TR and lots of windows [08:23] schestowitz-TR it went rhough periods, sometimes doing programming posts [08:23] schestowitz-TR then PLAGIARISING programming post [08:23] schestowitz-TR after it had attemped to do amazon catalogue disguised as reviews and such [08:23] schestowitz-TR a year ago the site was still mostly OK [08:23] schestowitz-TR a [08:23] schestowitz-TR TON of GOOD howtos [08:23] schestowitz-TR those are very rarely now and author names have changed [08:23] schestowitz-TR if this keeps happening to good sites, we'll be short on material for daily links [08:23] schestowitz-TR and TM [08:26] Techrightssec ack [08:26] Techrightssec excellent [08:26] Techrightssec that he is curbing the bullshit [08:26] Techrightssec Yes, site after site has been falling away, eithe shut down outright or passing [08:26] Techrightssec through an ugly pro-M$ phase first. [08:26] Techrightssec It's a matter of national security for all nations that there is only [08:26] Techrightssec microsoftianism taught (a vocation) instead of theory and applied theory [08:26] Techrightssec at universities. I bet it's not possible to get through a basic 5-year [08:26] Techrightssec Comp Sci or Electrical Engineering degree without being *required* to [08:27] Techrightssec use m$ gimmicks for at least two semesters. It's a bet I'd like to lose but [08:27] Techrightssec all the indicators are that Bill has destroyed higher ed in the US. [08:27] Techrightssec Reagan took out the primary and secondary education first though. [08:27] schestowitz-TR you are right, even 22 years ago there was a semester with a module where we needed to do some stuff in excel [08:27] schestowitz-TR or access or something [08:27] schestowitz-TR back then they didn't have staroffice as an option [08:30] Techrightssec The institutions lock people into m$ + blackboard and then don't give a rat's [08:30] Techrightssec asshole if either work or if instead the teachers or students end up frittering [08:30] Techrightssec away the contact hours unproductively attempting to accomplished the assigned [08:30] Techrightssec tasks using the toys required in place of real tools. [08:34] schestowitz-TR 2 daysa ago I saw a blog post (you sent the rss feeds) about someone who had taught, moved to industry, then made [08:34] schestowitz-TR a statement on teacher (IIRC, maybe a comeback) [08:34] schestowitz-TR the problem with such a trajectory is, people who taught decades ago have not much to go BACK to [08:34] schestowitz-TR as that thing they had come from changed over time [08:34] schestowitz-TR I recently examples the syllabus of UoM and it's mostly OK, aside from buzzwords [08:34] schestowitz-TR but that's a relatively high-ranked CS school [08:34] schestowitz-TR becoming a teachers in universities now, I would gues, means lots of clown, smut "phones", [08:34] schestowitz-TR and other crap never designed with either productivity nor education [08:34] schestowitz-TR *or [08:34] schestowitz-TR in mind [08:34] schestowitz-TR ime, based on Palm PDA/Palm OS since 2001, too much of these gadgets is harmful and possibly addictive [08:36] Techrightssec https://www.bbc.com/news/education-46019429 [08:36] Techrightssec It's worse for mental / social health [08:36] Techrightssec Back then the PDAs were still about getting work done. Nowadays the tools are [08:36] Techrightssec either designed intentionally as addictive timewasters (engagement) on purpose, [08:36] Techrightssec or unintentionally by kids who have only ever seen inefficient, time-wasting [08:36] Techrightssec user interfaces and think not only that it is "normal" but expect it. [08:36] -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-Surgery students 'losing dexterity to stitch patients' - BBC News [08:42] schestowitz-TR yesterday I had a lengthy chat with my mom about what cars were becoming [08:42] schestowitz-TR she hadn't thought much about it, but the point sank in after a while [08:42] schestowitz-TR I still don't know what the "latest" cars are like, it's moving ahead fast, [08:42] schestowitz-TR converging with what cars are NOT meant to me [08:42] schestowitz-TR becoming more of a distraction (hence, death toll) [08:42] schestowitz-TR I still don't fully understand how people "use" [sic] tiktok but sometimes I see [08:42] schestowitz-TR people use "phones" and "apps". Their time would be better spent talking to an [08:42] schestowitz-TR actual person or using actual programs such as kdenlive or cad suites [08:42] schestowitz-TR getting stuff "done" in life using "car" screen and "mobile" is like getting by [08:42] schestowitz-TR nutrition/diet-wide on 12-pack bags of craisps and pcks of chewing gum ● Nov 26 [09:09] *u-amarsh04 has quit (Quit: Konversation terminated!) [09:09] *u-amarsh04 has quit (Quit: Konversation terminated!) [09:11] *u-amarsh04 (~amarsh04@3f4eq2qd8h8ka.irc) has joined #boycottnovell [09:11] *u-amarsh04 (~amarsh04@freenode-rmogvn.g0d7.dtdf.mc4289.IP) has joined #boycottnovell [09:13] schestowitz-TR going through links atm, seeing more on twitter going titsup [09:13] schestowitz-TR this is very very very good news [09:13] schestowitz-TR also the alexa bubble [09:13] schestowitz-TR losses upon losses just to record people inside their own homes [09:13] schestowitz-TR companies operating at a loss... for social control, rewarded by "deep state" budget [09:15] Techrightssec IIRC it was Cory who has been vocal about cars being computers you put your [09:15] Techrightssec body into; They're more complex than that though and are really rolling [09:15] Techrightssec networks of networks which are in turn often connected intentionally or [09:15] Techrightssec accidentally to The Internet. [09:15] Techrightssec If Musk can take out Twitter permanently then that will only be a good thing. [09:15] Techrightssec However, there is a small risk that he and his Saudi backers can succeed in [09:15] Techrightssec turning it into a loud and successful version of Gab or Pravda -- for social [09:15] Techrightssec control. [09:15] Techrightssec Like m$, it does not matter how much losses there are nor for how long the losses run. It's entirely about control. [09:15] Techrightssec Just like the rest of modern computing. [09:16] schestowitz-TR yes, that's one message we need to convey [09:16] schestowitz-TR with burden of proof on us [09:16] schestowitz-TR as that contradicts the well-funded marketing machines, which nowadays include "the media" [09:16] Techrightssec It's hard to convey when almost no one under the age of 40 even knows how [09:16] Techrightssec to use a computer let alone actually uses one. Under the age of 30 even fewer [09:16] Techrightssec have even seen a general purpose computer. [09:18] schestowitz-TR it's not easy to convince people [09:18] schestowitz-TR same issue when the vast majority do not understand how patents work [09:18] schestowitz-TR or why some meds, even vaccines, are made so expensive (superficially) [09:18] schestowitz-TR and hence the rich get richer rapidly [09:18] Techrightssec Or if they have some misguided or misinformed idea that patents are related in [09:18] Techrightssec any way to innovation. Yes there is correlation but an inverse one. :( [09:21] schestowitz-TR my mom thought patents are an actual thing [09:22] schestowitz-TR like if you see a screw, that's a patent [09:22] schestowitz-TR because something about it might be patented [09:22] schestowitz-TR the media played a big role in this [09:22] schestowitz-TR I saw some very misleading headline [09:22] schestowitz-TR when I was a teenager and we did a business the media covered us, saying we "invent patents" [09:22] schestowitz-TR which makes no sense [09:22] schestowitz-TR also, we never pursued any patents [09:22] schestowitz-TR so it was a lie on several level [09:22] schestowitz-TR I still have a clipping of that title (headline) and the article [09:22] schestowitz-TR they basically used teens to make a bunch of noise about "patents" [09:22] schestowitz-TR where none at all were involved [09:22] schestowitz-TR my guess is that patent-related activists have been quiet due to shock and trauma of this economy [09:22] schestowitz-TR or lack of participation from media with broader audiences [09:22] schestowitz-TR which in turns lowers incentive to do the activism, the work [09:37] Techrightssec One of the reasons lawyers and MBAs can get away with so much noise is that [09:37] Techrightssec they've succeeded in confusing and disorienting the public by yammering on [09:37] Techrightssec about "intellectual property rights" which are neither intellectual, [09:37] Techrightssec nor property, nor rights. The media has chosen to play along so many [09:37] Techrightssec smart and otherwise well-intentioned individuals don't know better and parrot [09:37] Techrightssec those lines. Basically by steering the discussion away from the concrete [09:37] Techrightssec and distinct domains of 1) patents, 2) copyright, 3) trademarks, or [09:37] Techrightssec 4) trade secrets they make discussin impossible and that is the main goal that [09:37] Techrightssec I see from use of the misleading term "intellectual property rights" [09:37] Techrightssec If you can't even converse about the topic you certainly cannot fight it or even [09:37] Techrightssec reform it because you are *not* talking about it but instead some fantasy in [09:37] Techrightssec its place. [09:38] schestowitz-TR clown computing [09:38] schestowitz-TR home assistants [09:38] schestowitz-TR "enterprise" software [09:39] schestowitz-TR and so on [09:39] schestowitz-TR the media chooses the language [09:39] schestowitz-TR and we know who fudns the media [09:58] Techrightssec One of the spying microphones is losing money. I wonder how long the company [09:58] Techrightssec fronting it will keep it around anyway despite the ongoing losses. ● Nov 26 [10:11] schestowitz-TR iirc, the aws cia contract is circo 10bn [10:11] schestowitz-TR or 6 [10:11] schestowitz-TR was 6 around 2015? [10:38] mjg59_ CIA have no meaningful need for compute, it's nowhere near that much [10:39] mjg59_ It's a number that would make sense for the NSA ● Nov 26 [11:02] Techrightssec Not sure. Do you mean this one, it is just a drop in the bucket: [11:02] Techrightssec https://www.datacenterdynamics.com/en/news/cia-awards-multibillion-c2e-cloud-contract-aws-microsoft-google-oracle-and-ibm/ [11:02] Techrightssec https://www.nextgov.com/it-modernization/2020/11/exclusive-cia-awards-secret-multibillion-dollar-cloud-contract/170227/ [11:02] -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell- ( status 403 @ https://www.datacenterdynamics.com/en/news/cia-awards-multibillion-c2e-cloud-contract-aws-microsoft-google-oracle-and-ibm/ ) [11:02] Techrightssec More bailout money for M$ [11:02] -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-CIA Awards Secret Multibillion-Dollar Cloud Contract - Nextgov [11:02] Techrightssec https://fortune.com/2015/06/29/intelligence-community-loves-its-new-amazon-cloud/ [11:02] -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-CIA cloud gets kudos from security agencies | Fortune [11:02] Techrightssec https://www.govexec.com/magazine/features/2014/07/daring-deal/88207/ [11:02] -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-www.govexec.com | Daring Deal - Government Executive [11:03] schestowitz-TR oceans of "money" (debt) [11:03] schestowitz-TR bailout (financial, threat to national security) under the guise of "defence" ● Nov 26 [13:12] *starstreak has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [13:28] schestowitz-TR Statistics About COVID-19 Vaccines in the United States https://schestowitz.com/Weblog/archives/2022/11/26/statistics-about-covid-19-vaccines/ [13:28] -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-schestowitz.com Blog Archive Statistics About COVID-19 Vaccines in the United States ● Nov 26 [15:57] *liberty_box has quit (Quit: Leaving) [15:57] *liberty_box has quit (Quit: Leaving) ● Nov 26 [18:05] schestowitz-TR ping [18:05] schestowitz-TR never mind [18:05] schestowitz-TR but there's a draft [18:33] *wallacer has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) ● Nov 26 [19:34] *wallacer (~quassel@6bsu33ajs4zs4.irc) has joined #boycottnovell [19:36] Techrightssec back [19:36] Techrightssec checking [19:39] schestowitz-TR been setting up pi400 to do things [19:39] schestowitz-TR nice to have a spare to experiment on like this [19:39] Techrightssec Yes a spare is quite valuable. If you have additional USB sticks to boot from [19:39] Techrightssec then you effectively have an additional machine from each stick. [19:49] schestowitz-TR this machine is already a 'hot spare' in case the 2020 pi dies [19:49] schestowitz-TR and it's hard to get more of them now ● Nov 26 [21:13] *starstreak (~starstreak@muarsy2vret2q.irc) has joined #boycottnovell ● Nov 26 [22:26] *wallacer has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [22:33] *wallacer (~quassel@6bsu33ajs4zs4.irc) has joined #boycottnovell