●● IRC: #boycottnovell @ Techrights IRC Network: Monday, December 26, 2022 ●● ● Dec 26 [00:44] *rianne (~rianne@ubimf8izmv24i.irc) has joined #boycottnovell [00:44] *asusbox (~rianne@ubimf8izmv24i.irc) has joined #boycottnovell [00:47] *rianne has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [00:47] *asusbox has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [00:47] *rianne (~rianne@ubimf8izmv24i.irc) has joined #boycottnovell [00:47] *asusbox (~rianne@ubimf8izmv24i.irc) has joined #boycottnovell [00:54] *asusbox has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [00:54] *rianne has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) ● Dec 26 [01:34] *DaemonFC (~daemonfc@t7hct496rpu2g.irc) has joined #boycottnovell ● Dec 26 [02:46] *rianne (~rianne@ubimf8izmv24i.irc) has joined #boycottnovell [02:46] *asusbox (~rianne@ubimf8izmv24i.irc) has joined #boycottnovell [02:57] *asusbox has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [02:57] *rianne has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) ● Dec 26 [03:31] schestowitz-TR today is backup and maintenance day [03:31] schestowitz-TR will be busy the best 2 horsm long list if annual tasks [03:31] techrightssec2 ack [03:35] *u-amarsh04 (~amarsh04@freenode-rmogvn.g0d7.dtdf.mc4289.IP) has joined #boycottnovell [03:35] *u-amarsh04 (~amarsh04@auubhxtweg528.irc) has joined #boycottnovell [03:56] *u-amarsh04 has quit (Quit: Konversation terminated!) [03:56] *u-amarsh04 has quit (Quit: Konversation terminated!) [03:56] techrightssec2 So far main.php is the only file I've noticed missing from the static archive [03:56] techrightssec2 of "gallery" for tm-new. Are there others that you can spot from a quick look? [03:56] *u-amarsh04 (~amarsh04@freenode-rmogvn.g0d7.dtdf.mc4289.IP) has joined #boycottnovell [03:57] *u-amarsh04 (~amarsh04@auubhxtweg528.irc) has joined #boycottnovell [03:58] schestowitz-TR i will take a look ina bit [03:58] schestowitz-TR trying not to multitask atm [03:58] schestowitz-TR just noticed irc-archives going to exceed 10k fiels today [03:59] schestowitz-TR these started around 2019 ● Dec 26 [04:51] schestowitz-TR ok, done tm annual tasks, took a lot longer than usual [04:51] schestowitz-TR as I forgot some things [04:51] schestowitz-TR yesterday I asked rianne if she still remembers how we added stories to drupal [04:51] schestowitz-TR anyway, I will make backups after those changes [04:51] schestowitz-TR where do I test the static gallery as a visitor? [04:58] *rianne (~rianne@ubimf8izmv24i.irc) has joined #boycottnovell [04:58] *asusbox (~rianne@ubimf8izmv24i.irc) has joined #boycottnovell ● Dec 26 [05:03] schestowitz-TR When 'Linux'Hint covers Git it ASSUMES you use MICROSOFT, WINDOWS, and GITHUB (Microsoft! Proprietary!) https://linuxhint.com/git-shallow-clone-and-clone-depth/ [05:03] -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-linuxhint.com | Git Shallow Clone and Clone Depth [05:12] *u-amarsh04 has quit (Quit: Konversation terminated!) [05:12] *u-amarsh04 has quit (Quit: Konversation terminated!) [05:13] techrightssec2 https://news.tuxmachines.org/gallery/ [05:13] techrightssec2 Remember about 20 years ago when insurance companies were charging less if [05:13] techrightssec2 sites had no M$ Windows around? Whatever happened to that? It seems more [05:13] techrightssec2 relevant than ever now with US banks alone processing over a billion USD in [05:13] -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-news.tuxmachines.org | TuxGallery [05:13] techrightssec2 ransomware payments, pey year. [05:15] schestowitz-TR testing static gallery for edge cases [05:15] schestowitz-TR (remember for drupal I have some scraping script, but let's do one thing at a time...) [05:15] schestowitz-TR biab trying to find ways to 'fail' the clone [05:18] schestowitz-TR if I try to see full sized screenshot, it puts upside down (like spanish) question mark [05:18] schestowitz-TR and does not (atm) present the image [05:18] schestowitz-TR I think old reviews of distros link to images this way [05:18] *u-amarsh04 (~amarsh04@auubhxtweg528.irc) has joined #boycottnovell [05:18] *u-amarsh04 (~amarsh04@freenode-rmogvn.g0d7.dtdf.mc4289.IP) has joined #boycottnovell [05:23] schestowitz-TR some other navigation links give 404, with the upside-down question marek [05:23] schestowitz-TR not moaning ;-) just trying to supply feedback [05:23] schestowitz-TR btw (ramble warning) [05:23] schestowitz-TR today I went through a lot of old TM, realising that it still gets many views, esp. ceretain pages [05:23] schestowitz-TR it does contain a ton of material from over the years, even where originals ceased to exist [05:23] schestowitz-TR the new site I checked too, seems like about 60k requests per day, and that's just for stuff published [05:24] schestowitz-TR since late summer [05:24] schestowitz-TR rankings in SEs matter because few people bother with anything else [05:24] schestowitz-TR partly due to UIs gravitating in that direction [05:24] schestowitz-TR inc. GoogleFirefox, where Mozilla assume you search google when you enter some work somewhere [05:24] schestowitz-TR more so android [05:24] schestowitz-TR zonker said he was seeing a rebound for rss [05:24] schestowitz-TR or foreseeing that due to twitter's collapse [05:24] schestowitz-TR I'm not sure about that, but really, for producticity's sake, people need to change habits [05:24] schestowitz-TR less search engines, more directories, more rss, less "phones" [05:42] schestowitz-TR So Far This Christmas More COVID-19 Patients Hospitalised Than Last Christmas https://schestowitz.com/Weblog/archives/2022/12/26/covid-19-this-christmas/ [05:42] -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-schestowitz.com Blog Archive So Far This Christmas More COVID-19 Patients Hospitalised Than Last Christmas [05:43] schestowitz-TR "mild" hospital visits ● Dec 26 [06:13] *Noisytoot has quit (Quit: ZNC 1.8.2 - https://znc.in) [06:13] *Noisytoot (~noisytoot@tkbibjhmbkvb8.irc) has joined #boycottnovell [06:43] techrightssec2 The radical move away from usability and efficiency and into 'engagement' [06:43] techrightssec2 has severe repercussions for productivity directly and indirectly. The [06:43] techrightssec2 direct effects are obvious but the indirect effects are via the damage it does [06:43] techrightssec2 to mental health and the usual side effects of psychological addiction. [06:47] schestowitz-TR information overload can be worse than addiciton [06:47] schestowitz-TR and worse is misinformation ovrload [06:48] schestowitz-TR which turns healthy minds into dangerous cranks ● Dec 26 [07:44] *Noisytoot has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [07:45] *Noisytoot (~noisytoot@tkbibjhmbkvb8.irc) has joined #boycottnovell ● Dec 26 [08:57] schestowitz-TR someone asked rms about gemini this month [08:57] schestowitz-TR rms responds he didn't hear about gemini [08:57] schestowitz-TR but we told him about it 12 months ago [08:57] schestowitz-TR see latest post [08:57] techrightssec2 cts of psychological addiction. [08:57] techrightssec2 checking [08:57] techrightssec2 He said, "I don't remember if I ever heard of it before, sorry." [08:57] techrightssec2 It must be really off his radar then [08:58] schestowitz-TR he once said java instead of javascript but quickly corrected himse [08:58] schestowitz-TR his mind still works well [08:58] schestowitz-TR but I am sureprised he forgot about gemini ● Dec 26 [09:16] *rianne has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [09:17] *asusbox has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [09:59] *DaemonFC has quit (Quit: Leaving) ● Dec 26 [10:00] techrightssec2 If it's not in his area of interest at all or he hasn't concluded that it is [10:00] techrightssec2 important then he is unlikely to remember it. Part of the problem is that [10:00] techrightssec2 it is very low key and might not even have packaged clients for the distro [10:00] techrightssec2 he is on. [10:00] techrightssec2 Perhaps he has dismissed it. He was certainly negative about the text-only [10:00] techrightssec2 aspect. [10:00] techrightssec2 Any comment on the static archive of the gallery? [10:00] schestowitz-TR sorry, back from exercise and shower [10:00] schestowitz-TR just emailed rms about gemini [10:00] schestowitz-TR one of our computers is not in a good state, but not important machine [10:00] schestowitz-TR so additonal task [10:00] schestowitz-TR I send feedback on static gallery earlier on, did you get it? [10:02] *rianne (~rianne@ubimf8izmv24i.irc) has joined #boycottnovell [10:02] *asusbox (~rianne@ubimf8izmv24i.irc) has joined #boycottnovell [10:05] schestowitz-TR not sure how to interpret "fully cahrge" but "1%" [10:05] schestowitz-TR not sure if the usb hamalayan salt lamp damaged something in power management after a month's use [10:05] schestowitz-TR or maybe something else [10:05] schestowitz-TR sometimes it shuts off after a minute [10:05] schestowitz-TR sometimes 6 hours [10:05] schestowitz-TR very weird to explain [10:05] schestowitz-TR ---------------------- [10:20] techrightssec2 What about the USB George Foreman Grill? [10:22] schestowitz-TR i don't get the reference [10:22] schestowitz-TR this is a lamp that changes colours and it built into himalayan salt [10:22] schestowitz-TR we got a great price on it at a local shop with nepal connections [10:22] schestowitz-TR but nothing suggests that this was the cause of issus [10:22] schestowitz-TR though yesterday the machine started making some whirling noise [10:22] schestowitz-TR they seem to be gone now [10:52] schestowitz-TR many extensive flocks of gulls around our house lately [10:52] schestowitz-TR more than in recent years [10:52] schestowitz-TR other birds hate them, they can be vicious [10:52] schestowitz-TR but the play is, throw it in such a way they can catch the food in the air ● Dec 26 [11:03] techrightssec2 ack [11:05] schestowitz-TR d in the air [11:05] schestowitz-TR i nearly linked to tomaz the msft shill [11:05] schestowitz-TR it was in my draft [11:05] schestowitz-TR but then you spottef it was azure shilling disguised as r and python [11:05] schestowitz-TR gemini also has some microsoft shills in it, one notable person in poland [11:05] schestowitz-TR sometimes you need to read deep to understand what they shill [11:05] schestowitz-TR it's no the langs [11:05] schestowitz-TR or sokme software [11:05] schestowitz-TR but some proprietary microsoft crap [11:05] schestowitz-TR like linuxhint covering git (windows, ms, github ASSUMED) [11:06] techrightssec2 ack [11:06] techrightssec2 Yes, they make an effort to hide these days, knowing how unpopulare m$ really is [11:06] techrightssec2 They've really been working to undermine both Python and R, especially the [11:06] techrightssec2 latter. [11:07] schestowitz-TR they will get their way when people confuse the brands [11:07] schestowitz-TR linux=wsl [11:07] schestowitz-TR python=azure [11:07] schestowitz-TR etc. [11:07] schestowitz-TR and cannot distinguish [11:07] schestowitz-TR git is just github [11:07] schestowitz-TR to the average person [11:08] techrightssec2 Confusion has been sown by having the R Foundation and the R Consortium, one [11:08] techrightssec2 of which is M$ and only about subverting R while the other is actually about [11:08] techrightssec2 advancing R [11:08] techrightssec2 Remember the "three guys in a garage" against ODF? Similar approach. [11:10] schestowitz-TR marbux, gary and sam were not in fact against odf [11:10] schestowitz-TR icbm accused them of things [11:10] schestowitz-TR it was icbm that sold us out [11:10] schestowitz-TR back door deal with msft [11:10] schestowitz-TR for ooxml [11:10] schestowitz-TR like durusau (patrick) [11:10] schestowitz-TR I spoke to the "garage" people, they all vanished after all that [11:17] schestowitz-TR s/back door/back room/ [11:17] schestowitz-TR buth both are ironically fitting [11:17] schestowitz-TR i remember my conversations esp. with marbux and gary [11:17] schestowitz-TR icbm spread some fud at some point [11:17] schestowitz-TR causing confusion [11:17] schestowitz-TR and doubt [11:17] schestowitz-TR about gary and olivian his wife [11:17] schestowitz-TR ad hominem [11:17] schestowitz-TR they nearly got sued (marbux was going to) [11:18] schestowitz-TR we had an irc channel [11:18] schestowitz-TR and pj stepped in after I had shown what went on there [11:18] schestowitz-TR (freenode) [11:19] techrightssec2 OOXML does not really exist in practice and even paper it is severely [11:19] techrightssec2 underdocumented and substantially incomplete. Yet there will still be liars [11:19] techrightssec2 popping up from time to time asserting that M$ uses it, which it doesn't [11:19] techrightssec2 Yes, the backdoor deal by IBM was a really bad move. Also something happened [11:19] techrightssec2 with Apple as it decied to side with M$ against ODF, I presume that the [11:19] techrightssec2 stance against ODF was a contractual requirement for some aspect of DOCX support [11:19] techrightssec2 or similar. [11:19] techrightssec2 http://hoaxes.org/af_database/permalink/george_foreman_usb_igrill [11:19] techrightssec2 http://hoaxes.org/af_database/permalink/himalaya_salt_usb_lamp ?? [11:19] -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-hoaxes.org | George Foreman USB iGrill (April Fool, 2003) [11:19] techrightssec2 marbux sowed a lot of strife within the ODF groups, apparently intentionally [11:20] techrightssec2 so it looked at the time more like he was really out to impair ODF especially [11:20] -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-hoaxes.org | Return of the Dodo (April Fool, 2002) [11:20] techrightssec2 with his blathing various M$ talking points continuously. [11:20] techrightssec2 s/blathing/blathering/ [11:20] techrightssec2 His attacks generally targeted the most productive group members so I have to [11:20] techrightssec2 say that it really looks like he was against the success of ODF. Whether that [11:20] techrightssec2 was due to some ties to m$, I do not know. However, the damage he was doing was [11:20] techrightssec2 apparent to all. [11:20] schestowitz-TR [11:20] was due to some ties to m$, I do not know. However, the damage he was doing wa [11:20] schestowitz-TR did the conniving start after 2008? [11:21] schestowitz-TR pj trusted marbux enough to put him in charge of News Picjs [11:21] schestowitz-TR as a right-hand man of sorts [11:21] schestowitz-TR so I used to mail him links every day [11:21] schestowitz-TR did the conniving start after 2008? [11:23] techrightssec2 Interesting [11:23] techrightssec2 Probably, he was not bad at first but I can no longer remember the precise [11:23] techrightssec2 time line of events. There were also strange national network outages here [11:23] techrightssec2 and there in time with the ISO scandals. It was like someone was pulling the [11:23] techrightssec2 plug on net blocks where there was a high density of ODF material, such as [11:23] techrightssec2 Groklaw [11:25] schestowitz-TR TR will publish articles about ISO next month [11:25] schestowitz-TR It looks like "It's FOSS" has just been cracked and hijacked. [11:27] techrightssec2 Excellent. Unfortunately there were shocking scandals in each of the national [11:27] techrightssec2 standars bodies. Each country had a different kind of scandal, which sadly [11:27] techrightssec2 did not make national news anywhere. IIRC all the members of the Norwegian [11:27] techrightssec2 standards body quit in protest and the only result was getting replaced buy [11:27] techrightssec2 ^by [11:27] techrightssec2 shills and microsofters. [11:27] techrightssec2 checking [11:27] techrightssec2 Still seems ok [11:27] techrightssec2 Though the last article visible is from the 23rd. [11:28] schestowitz-TR tehir rss feed was abused and links to some unrelated blogspam [11:28] schestowitz-TR maybe they revert back to a backup [11:35] techrightssec2 I did not check the RSS, just the main page [11:36] schestowitz-TR even if they got cracked and I can prove it, I'd rather not pick on them [11:36] schestowitz-TR I did this to opensuse some eyars ago [11:36] schestowitz-TR and it became a scandal for them [11:36] schestowitz-TR which they then belittles [11:36] schestowitz-TR *led [11:36] schestowitz-TR spoke to me in irc even [11:36] techrightssec2 "when will he consider issues with operating systems that are not licensing issues?" [11:36] techrightssec2 Subverting the spirit of the license as has been done with systemd should [11:36] techrightssec2 still be covered by the FSF though it is years late to the game on that [11:36] techrightssec2 particular example. [11:38] techrightssec2 I did not check the RSS, just the main page [11:38] techrightssec2 ack [11:47] *rianne has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [11:47] *asusbox has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [11:50] *rianne (~rianne@ubimf8izmv24i.irc) has joined #boycottnovell [11:50] *asusbox (~rianne@ubimf8izmv24i.irc) has joined #boycottnovell ● Dec 26 [12:00] schestowitz-TR [09:54] Hi, [12:00] schestowitz-TR [09:54] I've just reposted your Q&A at: [12:00] schestowitz-TR [09:54] http://techrights.org/2022/12/26/emacsconf-2022-q-and-a/ [12:00] schestowitz-TR [09:54] Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2022/12/26/emacsconf-2022-q-and-a/ [12:00] -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-techrights.org | Uploaded a Week Ago: Richard Stallman Responds to Questions at EmacsConf 2022 | Techrights [12:00] schestowitz-TR [09:54] [Notice] -TechBytesBot to #techbytes- techrights.org | Uploaded a Week Ago: Richard Stallman Responds to [12:00] schestowitz-TR Questions at EmacsConf 2022 | Techrights [12:00] schestowitz-TR [09:54] The last question you were asked concerned Gemini. [12:00] schestowitz-TR [09:54] 12 months ago we suggested that FSF and GNU could adopt Gemini. You said you would consider [12:01] schestowitz-TR it. [12:01] schestowitz-TR [09:54] In the Q&A you said you hadn't heard of it. [12:01] schestowitz-TR [09:54] Can I relay to you some information about it? [12:01] schestowitz-TR [09:55] Images are possible in Gemini, they're just not in the official spec. [12:01] techrightssec2 ack [12:04] schestowitz-TR it's boxing day and I get overloaded with tasks already [12:04] schestowitz-TR and drowned [12:04] schestowitz-TR possibly part of that is the troublesome machine [12:04] schestowitz-TR but anyway I caught up [12:04] schestowitz-TR albeit massive overhead, working badkward to figure out what I forgot [12:04] schestowitz-TR or what caused a negative emotional reaction (I think the Microsoft shills) [12:04] schestowitz-TR anyway, I wrote down the tasks for the rest of the day [12:04] schestowitz-TR I think I missed nothing, except time [12:04] schestowitz-TR the bad PC "iza" is still a bit of an enigma [12:04] schestowitz-TR we already confined its movement due to very sensitive PSU [12:04] schestowitz-TR riane mistook me asking questions about what led to issue for me "blaming" her [12:04] schestowitz-TR when in fact I try to study cause and effect, the correlation can teach us what not to do [12:04] techrightssec2 ack [12:07] schestowitz-TR a couple of years ago I noticed that I get a similar reaction to [12:07] schestowitz-TR a) forgetting what I wanted to do and [12:07] schestowitz-TR b) abnoxious news or trolls, usually but not always microsoft [12:07] schestowitz-TR the latter means there's nothing to be done, just move on [12:07] schestowitz-TR but if you mistake a and b, then you might chasing in vain some "Forgotten task" [12:07] schestowitz-TR when it fact it's a negative reaction [12:07] schestowitz-TR I will have Daily Links ready soon [12:07] schestowitz-TR no "tomaz" [12:47] schestowitz-TR "I could not even have guessed at the level of wealth I see when that Times letter was published during the early epoch of Reaganism." https://www.counterpunch.org/2022/12/26/a-brave-new-world/ [12:47] -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-A Brave New World - CounterPunch.org ● Dec 26 [13:08] schestowitz-TR there seems to be a healthy feedback loop between fsf, tr, and now digital vegan [13:08] schestowitz-TR among others [13:08] schestowitz-TR even epo insider [13:08] schestowitz-TR lots of material ahead for sirius too, but it needs to be generalised somewhat [13:08] schestowitz-TR very improbable I'll take a full-time job again [13:09] techrightssec2 Excellen. Andy's writings cover very important topics and compliment the FSF's [13:09] techrightssec2 original messaging. Same for TR. Hopefully between TR and Andy, the FSF can [13:09] techrightssec2 gain some inspiration to reactivate. [13:10] schestowitz-TR listento rms q and q aroudn 5-10min [13:10] schestowitz-TR he wants more people to take the role he intends to carry on with as long as he is able [13:10] techrightssec2 Part-time might be useful as a touchstone for what the current trends and moods [13:10] techrightssec2 are in industry. [13:10] techrightssec2 ack [13:16] schestowitz-TR rms mentioned stallmansupport.org at the end [13:16] schestowitz-TR he turns 70 around april iirc [13:16] schestowitz-TR gnu (usenet ANN) turns 40 in octobe iirc [13:16] schestowitz-TR i left my job at 40 [13:16] schestowitz-TR he left at 30 [13:16] schestowitz-TR he had already done gnu emacs before it was gnu or gpl existed [13:16] schestowitz-TR and did some system-level dev [13:16] schestowitz-TR i suppose good practice for the OS work later [13:17] schestowitz-TR i want and i need to focus on tr now [13:17] schestowitz-TR I learned a lot (good and bad) at my job [13:17] schestowitz-TR part-time from home would be enough and leave the mind open to thinking [13:17] schestowitz-TR draft (not original) [13:18] schestowitz-TR my dad turns 67 in 2 weeks [13:18] schestowitz-TR he started reading my work, which is well overdue [13:18] schestowitz-TR he now understands things better [13:27] techrightssec2 ack [13:27] schestowitz-TR LF = coalition of monopolies, sellouts, and even scum (like spies) [13:27] schestowitz-TR we need a coalition too, but opposite of the above [13:29] techrightssec2 How will the new foundation or consortium come up with the money to hire [13:29] techrightssec2 Linus? [13:31] schestowitz-TR that is infeasible and not really the solution [13:32] schestowitz-TR because Torvalds is not in sufficient control anymore [13:32] schestowitz-TR we saw that in 2018 [13:32] schestowitz-TR the system or status quo is built around finances conundrum [13:32] schestowitz-TR so you don't want developers controlled by github (loss leader) or luis villa [13:32] schestowitz-TR and all those GAFAM operatives [13:32] schestowitz-TR but life has financial strains, inc. legal bullying [13:32] schestowitz-TR some people run away [13:32] techrightssec2 Nothing happpens without productive developers though. [13:36] schestowitz-TR let's consider how linux is developed in 2022 [13:36] schestowitz-TR mailing lists (kernel.org) [13:36] schestowitz-TR bugzilla [13:36] schestowitz-TR many companies wanting to stick their patches before -rc1 [13:36] schestowitz-TR and Linus sort of deiciding [13:36] schestowitz-TR except when Google et al decide for him, e.g rust [13:36] schestowitz-TR after 4 years of lobbying through polymorphic front grou [13:37] schestowitz-TR the go-to reasoning being "secuity" [13:37] schestowitz-TR which is possible to debunk [13:37] schestowitz-TR good devs write mem-safe code [13:37] schestowitz-TR rust itself is a security and maintainance yoke [13:37] schestowitz-TR etc etc [13:37] schestowitz-TR then you have the salaries and infra [13:37] schestowitz-TR LF is mostly ms github [13:37] schestowitz-TR torvalds loist dight og what rms spoke about [13:37] schestowitz-TR he likes gplv2 [13:37] schestowitz-TR he should reread the motivations for gplv2 [13:37] schestowitz-TR or v3 [13:37] schestowitz-TR he lost control of his work already [13:37] schestowitz-TR fwiw, rms too shoulod reread it. microsoft systemd is bypassing or undermining gpl [13:37] schestowitz-TR but unlike tivoisation, here the fsf does nothing [13:37] schestowitz-TR while bagging money from the company that co-founded systemd, along with anotrher (intel) [13:37] schestowitz-TR and then rewards crazy matt for helping exactly the agenda fsf had warned about for 2 years [13:37] techrightssec2 Yes, the FSF has been worringly quiet on the systemd-style attacks. [13:39] schestowitz-TR i will say something strange: [13:39] schestowitz-TR I think deeper inside fsf is shy to admit it missed something [13:39] schestowitz-TR or was wrong [13:39] schestowitz-TR esp. with large programs [13:39] schestowitz-TR and frequent release cycles [13:39] schestowitz-TR those too are threats [13:39] schestowitz-TR figosdev wrote some new sthreats down [13:39] schestowitz-TR fsf does not want to deviate from the original script [13:39] schestowitz-TR or introduce gplv4 to deal with new issues [13:39] schestowitz-TR gplv3 was already painful enough as some rejected the "patch" [13:39] schestowitz-TR and that led to a split/rift [13:39] techrightssec2 Maybe but Athe longer they wait to correct the omission the worse those kinds [13:39] techrightssec2 of attacks spread. [13:39] techrightssec2 GPLv4 will be difficult. Eben has retired without a successor. [13:39] techrightssec2 GPLv3 was rejected, IMO, because few understand patents and even fewer sw patents [13:41] schestowitz-TR maybe you and/or I should research those systemd software patents [13:41] schestowitz-TR LP is now in Microsot [13:41] schestowitz-TR and ICBM is also a swpats bully and lobbyist [13:41] schestowitz-TR so it is relevant again [13:41] schestowitz-TR I forgot the patent numbers [13:41] schestowitz-TR but they do exist [13:41] schestowitz-TR and maybe we can start debating systemd in the context of legal threats [13:41] schestowitz-TR like we did mono [13:46] techrightssec2 It's probably less of a legal threat than more of a work-around preventing [13:46] techrightssec2 the freedom to examine or change the code because even trying to do so requires [13:46] techrightssec2 and inordinant amount of time, effort, and skill. Even if one ignores that [13:46] techrightssec2 last point, skill, and takes it for granted, systemd code is not even remotely [13:46] techrightssec2 accessible unless such a large amount of time and effort are expended as to [13:46] techrightssec2 effectively put it out of reach for anyone who hasn't been hired to work on the [13:46] techrightssec2 base [13:46] schestowitz-TR and gets msft account at shithub [13:47] techrightssec2 There were analyses a while back going on about how few comments were in the [13:47] techrightssec2 code base and how few of those that were there were actually relevant [13:47] schestowitz-TR MinceR: ^ [13:51] techrightssec2 Might do Andy and Glyn a favor and include the ISBNs for their two works in [13:51] techrightssec2 the post. That will make it that much easier for people to get ahold of the [13:51] techrightssec2 books. [13:52] schestowitz-TR funny that you mention it [13:52] schestowitz-TR i was thinking almost the same at the same time [13:52] schestowitz-TR 2-5 mins ago I thought about giving a url for the book [13:52] schestowitz-TR but then pictures bezos face [13:52] schestowitz-TR changed mind [13:52] schestowitz-TR can you get the books' isbn [13:52] schestowitz-TR I thought about adding cover pictures, but it would do no favour to the original from oliva [13:53] schestowitz-TR I only fixed two typos in there [13:53] techrightssec2 Amazon can be avoided for both [13:53] techrightssec2 Double check but I think they are : [13:53] techrightssec2 "Walled Culture: How Big Content Uses Technology and the Law to Lock Down Culture and Keep Creators Poor." Glyn [13:53] techrightssec2 Moody. (2022) BTF Press. ISBN 9789464594959 [13:53] techrightssec2 "Digital Vegan" Andy Farnell. (2021) Applied Scientific Press, London, England. ISBN 9780956088611 [13:58] schestowitz-TR added [13:58] schestowitz-TR tested to ensure isbn leads to the correct books [13:58] schestowitz-TR cheers [13:59] schestowitz-TR the upcoming series is being chopped down to parts now [13:59] schestowitz-TR like a big cow [13:59] schestowitz-TR after finishing tm anual tasks I feel so much more relieved [13:59] schestowitz-TR I used to have even worse annual tasks, lasting like half a day [13:59] schestowitz-TR but some were automated [13:59] schestowitz-TR now I can envision how I can split the chores till jan 5th [13:59] schestowitz-TR seeing a paralegal later this week ● Dec 26 [14:00] techrightssec2 np [14:00] techrightssec2 good [14:00] techrightssec2 I think the gallery is now properly archived but am not sure. Could you please [14:00] techrightssec2 put checking it on the list of things to do there? You and Rianne are much more [14:00] techrightssec2 familiar with what is supposed to be there and how it should look. I would be [14:00] techrightssec2 guessing on both aspects. [14:00] techrightssec2 https://news.tuxmachines.org/gallery/ [14:00] -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-news.tuxmachines.org | TuxGallery [14:00] schestowitz-TR [05:15] testing static gallery for edge cases [14:00] schestowitz-TR [05:15] (remember for drupal I have some scraping script, but let's do one thing at a time...) [14:01] schestowitz-TR [05:15] biab trying to find ways to 'fail' the clone [14:01] schestowitz-TR [05:18] if I try to see full sized screenshot, it puts upside down (like spanish) question mark [14:01] schestowitz-TR [05:18] and does not (atm) present the image [14:01] schestowitz-TR [05:18] I think old reviews of distros link to images this way [14:01] schestowitz-TR [05:18] --> u-amarsh04 (~amarsh04@auubhxtweg528.irc) has joined this channel. [14:01] schestowitz-TR [05:23] some other navigation links give 404, with the upside-down question marek [14:01] schestowitz-TR [05:23] not moaning ;-) just trying to supply feedback [14:01] schestowitz-TR [05:23] btw (ramble warning) [14:08] techrightssec2 Thanks! [14:08] techrightssec2 Which URLs have bad links? The questionmark is not allowed in path names for [14:08] techrightssec2 URLs since it denotes the end of the path + file name and the start of the [14:08] techrightssec2 query string. The inverted question mark seems like a fair substitute. [14:08] techrightssec2 But if there are broken links somewhere, those need to be identified by URL [14:09] schestowitz-TR there are two factors (maybe more) [14:09] schestowitz-TR a) how gallery links to itself (inwards) [14:09] schestowitz-TR b) how search engines link to images and pages + how susan's reviews link to or hotlink those images [14:09] schestowitz-TR ideally _all_ links should remain in tact [14:09] schestowitz-TR so as to also avoid penalties from SEs and "lost" material previously indexes (many "news" [14:09] schestowitz-TR sites doomed themselves cause f****ing suits don't know what changing a CMS actually begets) [14:10] techrightssec2 The links remain intact, the question mark removal is non negotiable with [14:10] techrightssec2 Apache2 and Nginx and other standards-compliant web servers. [14:10] techrightssec2 What can be done is have the Apache2 rewrite engine rewrite + redirect the [14:10] techrightssec2 old URLs at the old address to the new site. [14:10] techrightssec2 But the question remains, are there any dead links *within* the gallery on [14:10] techrightssec2 the new site? [14:15] schestowitz-TR when I last checked, yes. several examples above. [14:15] schestowitz-TR brb, water boiling [14:41] *rianne_ has quit (Quit: Konversation terminated!) [14:41] *rianne_ has quit (Quit: Konversation terminated!) 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[15:45] schestowitz And, the language keeps evolving, too. The unique approach of the Rust programming language results in better code with fewer compromises than C, C++, Go, and the other languages you probably use. It also gets updated regularly, often every month, says InfoWorld. [15:45] schestowitz In this article, Paul Krill and Serdar Yegulalp look at whats new in the most recent versions. For example, Rust 1.66 includes: [15:45] schestowitz A newly stabilized black_box function [15:45] schestowitz Use of cargo remove for removing dependencies [15:45] schestowitz Improved runtime performance and memory usage [15:45] schestowitz " [15:48] schestowitz-TR SBOM = Suckewr for Bill Or Melinda [15:48] schestowitz-TR Zemlin PAC [15:48] schestowitz-TR Zemlin hailed billg as security visionary 2 months ago [15:48] schestowitz-TR how does billg find the time. prof bill isn't tooo busy developing vaccines in a lab? [15:48] techrightssec2 ack [15:48] techrightssec2 SBOM is about creating further barriers to non-M$ software and basically anything modular. [15:50] schestowitz-TR just look who pushed (and sponsored) this INTO the LF [15:50] schestowitz-TR zemlin is not in charge [15:50] schestowitz-TR his wife is not in charge of him either, unlike what he claims [15:50] schestowitz-TR she is controlled by companies like microsoft [15:50] schestowitz-TR and hence him and LF [15:50] schestowitz-TR it's all about money [15:50] schestowitz-TR just money [15:50] schestowitz-TR always money [15:50] schestowitz-TR they never turn down money [15:50] schestowitz-TR and money is always right [15:55] techrightssec2 They try to make it as complex as possible to have any modular components. [15:55] techrightssec2 ie. FOSS [15:57] schestowitz-TR industry seems to eventually gravitate towards putting frauds and liars in charge [15:57] schestowitz-TR because in the short run lying (e.g.to shareholders and/or clients) "pays off" [15:57] schestowitz-TR honesty does not [15:57] schestowitz-TR hard work does not [15:57] schestowitz-TR but exploiting hard-working people is another matter [15:57] schestowitz-TR breinging people in conditionally from a very poor country is a strong motuivator [15:57] schestowitz-TR irrespective of skils [15:57] schestowitz-TR i just added to tm a story on docker and containers [15:57] schestowitz-TR software used to be core and meta packages conbined [15:57] schestowitz-TR the latter as services and groups of apis, stattically linked [15:57] schestowitz-TR now they push container-style stuff [15:57] schestowitz-TR like "android" and "apps" [15:57] schestowitz-TR appimage, snap, flatpak [15:57] schestowitz-TR that makes security even worse in a lot of ways [15:57] techrightssec2 Or despite actual lack of skills. [15:57] techrightssec2 s/despite/because of/ [15:59] schestowitz-TR fashion "Comes and Goes" [15:59] schestowitz-TR "not in the mode" [15:59] schestowitz-TR "Trending" [15:59] schestowitz-TR mainframes -> personal pc -> mainf^h^hclown comptuing [15:59] schestowitz-TR appliances -> general purpose computers - app******s ● Dec 26 [16:00] techrightssec2 ack [16:43] schestowitz-TR Clip, Moderna expands, UK, Canada and Australia plants https://yewtu.be/watch?v=AYiwms-Yp5s Moderna = patent cartel, stealing what the public paid for, privatising it using patents, then signing secret deals with governments to rob taxpayers a second time around [16:43] schestowitz-TR yewtu.be | Clip, Moderna expands, UK, Canada and Australia plants - Invidious [16:43] -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-yewtu.be | Clip, Moderna expands, UK, Canada and Australia plants - Invidious [16:43] schestowitz-TR theguardian 'forgot' to say that it is taking bribes from Bill Gates for over a decade already. Of course Gates profits a lot from those patents + graft. theguardian never criticises the Famous Criminal Gates, which is KNOWN -- not merely speculated -- to profit from this https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2020/nov/17/rishi-sunak-refuses-to-say-if-he-will-profit-from-moderna-covid-vaccine [16:43] -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-www.theguardian.com | Rishi Sunak refuses to say if he will profit from Moderna Covid vaccine | Rishi Sunak | The Guardian [16:43] schestowitz-TR www.theguardian.com | Rishi Sunak refuses to say if he will profit from Moderna Covid vaccine | Rishi Sunak | The Guardian [16:45] schestowitz-TR theguardian can protect its evil mobster and sponsor Bill Gates by merely deflecting or redirecting rage. That's one heck of a business model. It also keeps mocking Gates' critics. Same at BillBC, which of course pockets bribes from Gates too (no disclosures given). [16:52] techrightssec2 ack [16:59] *u-amarsh04 has quit (Quit: Konversation terminated!) [16:59] *u-amarsh04 has quit (Quit: Konversation terminated!) ● Dec 26 [17:01] MinceR schestowitz-TR: yeah, i wonder how the tax-free software foundation will be able to spin systemd as "free software" once MICROS~1 starts issuing patent threats about it [17:02] MinceR oh, i'm sorry, some entity that is _technically_ not MICROS~1 [17:02] schestowitz-TR patent trolls by proxy [17:02] schestowitz-TR as before [17:02] schestowitz-TR e.g. acacia [17:03] schestowitz-TR among others ● Dec 26 [19:50] *DaemonFC (~daemonfc@pupsf4x2uvcgu.irc) has joined #boycottnovell ● Dec 26 [20:42] *DaemonFC has quit (Quit: Leaving) [20:42] *DaemonFC (~daemonfc@uax6j9r5apawe.irc) has joined #boycottnovell