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schestowitz> I'm cynical enough to think it's possible, I'm not sure I'm convinced itSep 27 00:51
schestowitz> can't be saved.Sep 27 00:51
schestowitz> Sep 27 00:51
schestowitz> I'm thoroughly convinced (I suppose anything is possible, howeverSep 27 00:51
schestowitz> unlikely) that the Linux kernel will NOT be salvaged. I'm not sure aboutSep 27 00:51
schestowitz> GNU yet, but I do promote the idea of building GNU around a kernel thatSep 27 00:51
schestowitz> is less likely to be taken over.Sep 27 00:51
schestowitz> Sep 27 00:51
schestowitz> In the long run that means doing more or less what Hyperbola is doing.Sep 27 00:51
schestowitz> Everyone wants to interview rms, which is great-- he's important but heSep 27 00:51
schestowitz> won't say much. Hyperbola should be interviewed as well. Perhaps aSep 27 00:51
schestowitz> couple times a year.Sep 27 00:51
schestowitzSide note: over the past 10+ years RMS always agreed to do an interview with me.Sep 27 00:51
schestowitzNow?Sep 27 00:51
schestowitz5 days of silence. Still no reply...Sep 27 00:51
schestowitz> The emphasis/has/ to be on a "portable" - read "forkable" kernel.Sep 27 00:51
schestowitz>>> I'm cynical enough to think it's possible, I'm not sure I'm convinced itSep 27 01:09
schestowitz>>> can't be saved.Sep 27 01:09
schestowitz>>> I'm thoroughly convinced (I suppose anything is possible, howeverSep 27 01:09
schestowitz>>> unlikely) that the Linux kernel will NOT be salvaged. I'm not sure aboutSep 27 01:09
schestowitz>>> GNU yet, but I do promote the idea of building GNU around a kernel thatSep 27 01:09
schestowitz>>> is less likely to be taken over.Sep 27 01:09
schestowitz>>> In the long run that means doing more or less what Hyperbola is doing.Sep 27 01:09
schestowitz>>> Everyone wants to interview rms, which is great-- he's important but heSep 27 01:09
schestowitz>>> won't say much. Hyperbola should be interviewed as well. Perhaps aSep 27 01:09
schestowitz>>> couple times a year.Sep 27 01:09
schestowitz>>Sep 27 01:09
schestowitz>> Side note: over the past 10+ years RMS always agreed to do an interviewSep 27 01:09
schestowitz>> with me.Sep 27 01:09
schestowitz>>Sep 27 01:09
schestowitz>> Now?Sep 27 01:09
schestowitz>>Sep 27 01:09
schestowitz>> 5 days of silence. Still no reply...Sep 27 01:09
schestowitz>Sep 27 01:09
schestowitz> I've been wondering when this situation with Free Software (in general) was going to sink into him emotionally.  Maybe now?Sep 27 01:09
schestowitzI nudged him about it last night. He did, twice ovver the past year, promised to let me in on a secret (it came from him, he was 'urging' to tell me something). Then he forgot what he wanted to tell me. Twice. Or maybe he had second thoughts. Maybe he's afraid of something.Sep 27 01:09
schestowitzSomething is going on. But I don't know what exactly.Sep 27 01:09
schestowitzHe's not upset at me. Months ago he asked me to help him find speaking opportunities in the UK (just before COVID started here).Sep 27 01:09
schestowitzre RMSSep 27 02:53
schestowitz>> I nudged him about it last night. He did, twice ovver the past year,Sep 27 02:53
schestowitz> promised to let me in on a secret (it came from him, he was 'urging' toSep 27 02:53
schestowitz> tell me something). Then he forgot what he wanted to tell me. Twice. OrSep 27 02:53
schestowitz> maybe he had second thoughts. Maybe he's afraid of something.Sep 27 02:53
schestowitz> Sep 27 02:53
schestowitz>> Something is going on. But I don't know what exactly.Sep 27 02:53
schestowitz> Sep 27 02:53
schestowitz> Wow. But then that's what I always suspect. Myself, I've reached a pointSep 27 02:53
schestowitz> where I know that he and I are never going to have much to say, but ISep 27 02:53
schestowitz> still admire him a great deal (he's never not going to be the founder ofSep 27 02:53
schestowitz> all this, indeed he and Gilmore are the main reasons BSD is free asSep 27 02:53
schestowitz> well. So that's TWO Unix-like operating systems he's helped free, and--Sep 27 02:54
schestowitz> no, that's about it if you count stuff in production use. But it's twoSep 27 02:54
schestowitz> he's helped free and zero he hasn't helped.Sep 27 02:54
schestowitz> Sep 27 02:54
schestowitz> I know he wants to spend the rest of his life fighting so I'm glad he'sSep 27 02:54
schestowitz> still doing it. The rest of us have to figure out how to free as muchSep 27 02:54
schestowitz> other stuff he won't touch-- that means Github, it means we need aSep 27 02:54
schestowitz> really free OS (which IMO doesn't mean with Linux, but as long as it'sSep 27 02:54
schestowitz> not a fake kind of free it's good-- if they can free Linux, great...Sep 27 02:54
schestowitz> they won't though) it means we need Free Speech as well.Sep 27 02:54
schestowitz> Sep 27 02:54
schestowitz> And we can bet he won't be part of that-- if only because he's beingSep 27 02:54
schestowitz> careful. Though that would be a nice thing to be wrong about.Sep 27 02:54
schestowitz> Looks good. Sorry, it was 5, 1, and 4 as you guessed. Sep 27 03:01
schestowitz> Sep 27 03:01
schestowitz> Thank you again for your helpSep 27 03:01
schestowitz> Sep 27 03:01
schestowitz> It looks correctSep 27 03:01
schestowitz> Sep 27 03:01
schestowitz> Sorry, I had it wrong.Sep 27 03:01
schestowitz> Sep 27 03:01
schestowitz> Sep 27 03:01
schestowitz> The attachments were supposed to be (5), (1), and (4), notSep 27 03:01
schestowitz> (5), (1), and (2), as you surmised.Sep 27 03:01
schestowitz> Sep 27 03:01
schestowitz> Sep 27 03:01
schestowitz> Thank you again for your helpSep 27 03:01
schestowitzGlad that worked out the first time around. :-)Sep 27 03:01
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schestowitz     <li>Sep 27 09:29
schestowitz                  <h5><a href="https://www.bunniestudios.com/blog/?p=5942">Guided Tour of the Precursor Motherboard</a></h5>Sep 27 09:29
schestowitz                  <blockquote>Sep 27 09:29
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-www.bunniestudios.com | Guided Tour of the Precursor Motherboard « bunnie's blogSep 27 09:29
schestowitz                    <p>Finally, we have provisioned a “self-destruct” feature for users that opt to use battery-backed AES keys to protect their FPGA image. The “self-destruct” mechanism consists of a latch built using discrete transistors. During normal power-on, the system latches into a “normal” mode of operation. However, when the SoC asserts the “KEY_KILL” pin, the latch switches into the “kill” mode of Sep 27 09:29
schestowitzoperation. Once in the “kill” mode, power is cut to the T-domain – including the power that backs up the AES key. There is also a set active pull-downs which rapidly discharge the relevant voltage rails to ensure the power lines drop to a level suitable for data erasure in a matter of milliseconds. Although the data erasure only takes a fraction of a second, the only way to get out of “kill” mode is to remove the battery Sep 27 09:29
schestowitzor to wait for the battery to fully discharge.</p></blockquote></li>Sep 27 09:29
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/pythonconverter/status/1310036973873254403Sep 27 09:51
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@pythonconverter: @schestowitz I recommend you https://t.co/t9x84YtWXn for port the codeSep 27 09:51
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell--> pythonconverter.com | Python 2 to 3!Sep 27 09:51
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/Peterwyck29/status/1310014885460414464Sep 27 09:51
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@Peterwyck29: @schestowitz Defending their rights - r u dyslexic - u get everything assbackwards? #StayInUrLaneSep 27 09:51
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/KatKarma5/status/1309991898384228352Sep 27 09:51
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@KatKarma5: @schestowitz With all due respect, if you can figure this out, what keeps you from figuring out that the DNC wants Trump to win?Sep 27 09:51
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/PamelaDrew/status/1309944832585064448Sep 27 09:52
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@PamelaDrew: @schestowitz Great argument but fundamentally flawed premise of Gates vaccine for public health by groups w some re… https://t.co/ftc2U73VGeSep 27 09:52
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@PamelaDrew: @schestowitz Great argument but fundamentally flawed premise of Gates vaccine for public health by groups w some re… https://t.co/ftc2U73VGeSep 27 09:52
schestowitz"Great argument but fundamentally flawed premise of Gates vaccine for public health by groups w some record of success. It's on par w putting Big Tobacco on the public health pedestal to set policy. It's more psyop than sickness driving this dirty cabal."Sep 27 09:52
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/jrobertson/status/1309894745884430337Sep 27 09:52
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@jrobertson: He believes the key to making open-source communities more inclusive is establishing (and enforcing) codes of condu… https://t.co/YkLA5nw599Sep 27 09:52
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@jrobertson: He believes the key to making open-source communities more inclusive is establishing (and enforcing) codes of condu… https://t.co/YkLA5nw599Sep 27 09:52
schestowitz"He believes the key to making open-source communities more inclusive is establishing (and enforcing) codes of conduct and mentoring. ... he now mentors women and underrepresented minority programmers. “But white guys can forget it, ... They are not the ones who need it most"Sep 27 09:52
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/weh_kaniini/status/1309884013071532035Sep 27 09:53
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@weh_kaniini: @schestowitz it's nice that those people make themselves known so we can choose to not work with them moving forward.Sep 27 09:53
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/StarchyArchie/status/1309882330648121346Sep 27 09:53
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@StarchyArchie: @schestowitz 😳🤔😢Sep 27 09:53
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/RacoesB/status/1309832741425500162Sep 27 09:53
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@RacoesB: #EndTheFed #neofeudalism https://t.co/DhbFM8WljfSep 27 09:53
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@schestowitz: ● NEWS ● #CommonDreams #Finance ☞ Let’s Start Debating What Dooms Democracy: Concentrated Wealth https://t.co/ghDofhEIInSep 27 09:53
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schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/WakkerW/status/1310132876894253057Sep 27 12:16
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@WakkerW: @BeedeGee @JohnSimonis4 @Haiko4 @Mountain_Gee Eentje dan. De rest mag je zelf doen. Geen tijd voor mensen die niet… https://t.co/H4QuUswQhGSep 27 12:16
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@WakkerW: @BeedeGee @JohnSimonis4 @Haiko4 @Mountain_Gee Eentje dan. De rest mag je zelf doen. Geen tijd voor mensen die niet… https://t.co/H4QuUswQhGSep 27 12:16
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/WakkerW/status/1310130703191998464Sep 27 12:16
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@WakkerW: @BeedeGee @JohnSimonis4 @Haiko4 @Mountain_Gee Werknemer van Gates die opgepakt werd en gelinkt aan Epstein ja.. https://t.co/6WVUueyYZWSep 27 12:16
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell- ( status 500 @ https://techrights.org/2020/08/21/zoophilia-gates-estate/ )Sep 27 12:16
schestowitz"Eentje dan. De rest mag je zelf doen. Geen tijd voor mensen die niet lezen."Sep 27 12:17
schestowitz"Werknemer van Gates die opgepakt werd en gelinkt aan Epstein ja.."Sep 27 12:17
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/WakkerW/status/1310129457752047622Sep 27 12:17
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@WakkerW: @BeedeGee @JohnSimonis4 @Haiko4 @Mountain_Gee Inderdaad: Dat hij rijker dan landen is maakt nog niet dat hij onschu… https://t.co/aLqekDkO24Sep 27 12:17
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@WakkerW: @BeedeGee @JohnSimonis4 @Haiko4 @Mountain_Gee Inderdaad: Dat hij rijker dan landen is maakt nog niet dat hij onschu… https://t.co/aLqekDkO24Sep 27 12:17
schestowitz"Inderdaad: Dat hij rijker dan landen is maakt nog niet dat hij onschuldig is. Zijn werknemer Epstein werd zelfs in zijn huis aangehouden, maar gelukkig heeft Bill Gates goede advocaten zullen we maar zeggen. http://techrights.org/wiki/index.php"Sep 27 12:17
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-techrights.org | Main Page - TechrightsSep 27 12:17
schestowitzhttp://ipkitten.blogspot.com/2020/09/wipo-lex-judgments-global-free-database.html?showComment=1601059234496#c2626589039263144855Sep 27 13:12
schestowitz"Sep 27 13:13
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-ipkitten.blogspot.com | WIPO Lex-Judgments: the global free database of judicial decisions has been launched! - The IPKatSep 27 13:13
schestowitzWIPO Lex has been around for a long time and has never been very useful. This short list of countries and limited input (e.g. only 10 decisions from Australia - the only major common law jurisdiction so far) suggest that this is hardly a notable achievement. Hopefully, it will get better - much better.Sep 27 13:13
schestowitzUncle WiggilySep 27 13:13
schestowitz"Sep 27 13:13
schestowitz>> need https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8T_w4bPPbC4Sep 27 14:00
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-www.youtube.com | State of the Source 2020: Keynote: An Open Source Success at Sea, Joshua Simmons - YouTubeSep 27 14:00
schestowitz>>Sep 27 14:00
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schestowitz>>  ClearlyDefinedSep 27 14:00
schestowitz>>Sep 27 14:00
schestowitz>> 25:30Sep 27 14:00
schestowitz>>Sep 27 14:00
schestowitz>> toSep 27 14:00
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schestowitz>> 29Sep 27 14:00
schestowitz>>Sep 27 14:00
schestowitz> Ok.  From 25:35 to 29:00.  There's a little bit of trailing silenceSep 27 14:00
schestowitz> though.Sep 27 14:00
schestowitz> Sep 27 14:00
schestowitz> Who is that corporate spinmeister?  Why is the OSI for sale like that?Sep 27 14:00
schestowitzThis is aa ONGOING  question to tackle. Notice who their GM became months ago. VERY negative sign and tell us something about the FSF Award as well.Sep 27 14:00
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schestowitz>>> Ok.  From 25:35 to 29:00.  There's a little bit of trailing silenceSep 27 14:50
schestowitz>>> though.Sep 27 14:50
schestowitz>>>Sep 27 14:50
schestowitz>>> Who is that corporate spinmeister?  Why is the OSI for sale like that?Sep 27 14:50
schestowitz> He is from Saleforce:Sep 27 14:50
schestowitz> Sep 27 14:50
schestowitz> https://wiki.opensource.org/bin/Main/OSI+Board+of+Directors/Board+Member+Elections/2020+Individual+and+Affiliate+Elections/Simmons2020Sep 27 14:50
schestowitz> Sep 27 14:50
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-wiki.opensource.org | Josh Simmons - XWikiSep 27 14:50
schestowitz>> This is aa ONGOING  question to tackle. Notice who their GM becameSep 27 14:50
schestowitz>> months ago. VERY negative sign and tell us something about the FSF AwardSep 27 14:50
schestowitz>> as well.Sep 27 14:50
schestowitz>>Sep 27 14:50
schestowitz> https://opensource.org/node/1080Sep 27 14:50
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-opensource.org | Announcing OSI's New Interim General Manager | Open Source InitiativeSep 27 14:50
schestowitz> Sep 27 14:50
schestowitz> :(Sep 27 14:50
schestowitzCan't even talk about that.Sep 27 14:50
schestowitzBecause that would be sexist, obviously!Sep 27 14:50
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schestowitz[16:25] <cybrNaut> yeah, that's what I wrote but i'm not too public about it so as to avoid various anonymous IDs getting associatedSep 27 16:25
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