●● IRC: #boycottnovell @ Techrights IRC Network: Saturday, November 27, 2021 ●● ● Nov 27 [00:13] *altlink_591 has quit (connection closed) [00:13] *altlink_98c (~altlink_98c@2f7u5j6f87p9g.irc) has joined #boycottnovell ● Nov 27 [01:24] *rianne has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [01:24] *liberty_box has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [01:33] *rianne (~rianne@62vhapicsw4ds.irc) has joined #boycottnovell [01:33] *liberty_box (~liberty@62vhapicsw4ds.irc) has joined #boycottnovell ● Nov 27 [02:40] *rianne has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [02:40] *liberty_box has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [02:58] *psydruid (~psydruid@jevhxkzmtrbww.irc) has left #boycottnovell ● Nov 27 [03:08] *liberty_box (~liberty@62vhapicsw4ds.irc) has joined #boycottnovell [03:09] *rianne (~rianne@62vhapicsw4ds.irc) has joined #boycottnovell ● Nov 27 [04:01] *rianne has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [04:01] *liberty_box has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [04:17] *psydruid (~psydruid@jevhxkzmtrbww.irc) has joined #boycottnovell [04:29] *psydruid (~psydruid@jevhxkzmtrbww.irc) has left #boycottnovell ● Nov 27 [05:45] *psydruid (~psydruid@jevhxkzmtrbww.irc) has joined #boycottnovell ● Nov 27 [06:15] *DaemonFC has quit (Quit: Leaving) [06:46] *DaemonFC (~daemonfc@3yxytu36gc4e2.irc) has joined #boycottnovell [06:49] *u-amarsh04 (~amarsh04@joseon-j1d.a8a.npf7kv.IP) has joined #boycottnovell [06:49] *u-amarsh04 (~amarsh04@t25x9hgy9xhrc.irc) has joined #boycottnovell ● Nov 27 [07:06] *rianne (~rianne@62vhapicsw4ds.irc) has joined #boycottnovell [07:06] *liberty_box (~liberty@62vhapicsw4ds.irc) has joined #boycottnovell [07:23] *DaemonFC has quit (Quit: Leaving) [07:39] *u-amarsh04 has quit (Quit: Konversation terminated!) [07:39] *u-amarsh04 has quit (Quit: Konversation terminated!) [07:40] *u-amarsh04 (~amarsh04@t25x9hgy9xhrc.irc) has joined #boycottnovell [07:40] *u-amarsh04 (~amarsh04@joseon-j1d.a8a.npf7kv.IP) has joined #boycottnovell ● Nov 27 [08:18] *altlink_98c has quit (connection closed) [08:18] *altlink_48e (~altlink_48e@2f7u5j6f87p9g.irc) has joined #boycottnovell [08:28] Techrights-sec2 gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2021/11/26/fsf-associate-membership-at-19/ [08:28] Techrights-sec2 Are there any benefits, aside from FSF getting money, for associate membership? [08:28] Techrights-sec2 Do they get any input or representation in decisions? Do they get any advance [08:28] Techrights-sec2 information about projects or decisions? [08:29] schestowitz-TR NO, WE WROTE ABOUT IT [08:29] schestowitz-TR sorry, caps [08:29] Techrights-sec2 np [08:29] Techrights-sec2 Yes, I recall the article and other forums mentioned it a little, so maybe, [08:29] Techrights-sec2 just maybe, the FSF has though about it and made at least minor adjustments. [08:40] Techrights-sec2 ^thought [08:40] Techrights-sec2 I guess they'd also have to think it through to ensure that it does not get [08:40] Techrights-sec2 gamed like LF membership and OSI membership has been gamed. [08:40] Techrights-sec2 However, as it stands the only apparent benefit is that of having donated [08:40] Techrights-sec2 extra to the FSF. [08:41] schestowitz-TR the FSF's board was "infiltrated"; you can see comments to that effect from an insider in IRC logs [08:41] Techrights-sec2 Yes, though it seems salvagable as an institution for the time being. It [08:41] Techrights-sec2 could go either way still. [08:45] activelow in the video RMS talks about GCC as if it wasn't EGCS since 1997, this is important, and it was more than a renaming at that time already, i suspect [08:45] activelow before that happened, FSF rejected many contributions, which was necessary to protect GNU compiler to remain truly free, in particular free from proprietary vendor interests [08:46] activelow which is funny somehow, because RMS whines about torvalds and linux kernel shipping blobs [08:47] activelow and gcc ships extensions to support proprietary hardware (intel vendor specific mmx/sse to name one in particular) [08:48] activelow for fun, i downloaded the intel documentation for this, holy sh***, thousands of pages of vendor specific stuff gcc now supports [08:48] schestowitz-TR I see [08:49] Techrights-sec2 :( [08:49] Techrights-sec2 EEE ● Nov 27 [09:04] *rianne has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [09:04] *liberty_box has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [09:08] *rianne (~rianne@62vhapicsw4ds.irc) has joined #boycottnovell [09:10] *liberty_box (~liberty@62vhapicsw4ds.irc) has joined #boycottnovell ● Nov 27 [10:20] *liberty_box has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [10:20] *rianne has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [10:46] *rianne (~rianne@62vhapicsw4ds.irc) has joined #boycottnovell [10:47] *liberty_box (~liberty@62vhapicsw4ds.irc) has joined #boycottnovell [10:57] *u-amarsh04 has quit (Quit: Konversation terminated!) 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