●● IRC: #boycottnovell @ Techrights IRC Network: Thursday, April 28, 2022 ●● ● Apr 28 [00:48] *psydruid has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) ● Apr 28 [01:36] *psydruid (~psydruid@jevhxkzmtrbww.irc) has joined #boycottnovell ● Apr 28 [04:26] *u-amarsh04 has quit (Quit: Konversation terminated!) [04:26] *u-amarsh04 has quit (Quit: Konversation terminated!) [04:30] *u-amarsh04 (~amarsh04@v6xmmrhxmbafc.irc) has joined #boycottnovell [04:30] *u-amarsh04 (~amarsh04@freenode-rmogvn.g0d7.dtdf.mc4289.IP) has joined #boycottnovell ● Apr 28 [06:11] *DaemonFC has quit (Quit: Leaving) ● Apr 28 [07:17] *psydruid (~psydruid@jevhxkzmtrbww.irc) has left #boycottnovell [07:17] *psydruid (~psydruid@jevhxkzmtrbww.irc) has joined #boycottnovell ● Apr 28 [08:24] *activelow has quit (connection closed) [08:24] *activelow (~activelow@3rd3devshh7bn.irc) has joined #boycottnovell [08:36] Techrights-sec More grumbling: LXD pushes Snaps: https://linuxcontainers.org/lxd/getting-started-cli/ [08:36] Techrights-sec Are there any month-by-month statistics about Gemini's growth? [08:36] Techrights-sec https://linuxcontainers.org/lxd/ [08:36] Techrights-sec "Project sponsored by Canonical Ltd." [08:36] -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-linuxcontainers.org | Linux Containers - LXD - Getting started [08:36] -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-linuxcontainers.org | Linux Containers - LXD - Introduction [08:39] schestowitz-TR for month-to-month stats on gemini see botond's capsule [08:39] schestowitz-TR I've just checked backup gz files again, all fine [08:43] schestowitz-TR I think I might do a video about the lunduke thin [08:43] schestowitz-TR *thing [08:43] schestowitz-TR since I set up a job to test the integrity of gz file I never saw an error, so I've just checked [08:43] schestowitz-TR manually in case I miss something [08:44] Techrights-sec ack [08:44] Techrights-sec for the most part, he's been off his rocker for at least a year [08:46] schestowitz-TR to be fair to him,. he has a family to feed, his profession is dying (publishers, [08:46] schestowitz-TR gulagtube etc.), and there's this pandemic thing [08:46] schestowitz-TR that he cannot keep cool is a weakness [08:46] schestowitz-TR he did say some self-discrediting things [08:46] schestowitz-TR and he keeps making promises he cannot keep [08:46] Techrights-sec yes, even when giving him a lot of slack for getting money to feed his family [08:46] Techrights-sec I'd still have to say that he's been off his rocker [08:51] Techrights-sec can't or just plain doesn't [08:51] Techrights-sec :( ● Apr 28 [09:05] *u-amarsh04 has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [09:07] *Despatche has quit (Quit: Read error: Connection reset by deer) [09:14] schestowitz-TR irc post for today? [09:14] schestowitz-TR (side note: today I tried to make a mental list of 4 thing to do, which was a mistaker, as even though [09:14] schestowitz-TR I did 4 things I cannot be entirely sure it was these things; so better to not even make the mental [09:14] schestowitz-TR lists: something like post bulletin, post irc, catch up with chat, and check daily links. I used to put in the palm [09:14] schestowitz-TR pda a "checkllist" of sorts, but that became more of a burden over time, so I stopped years ago) [09:14] Techrights-sec checkig [09:16] schestowitz-TR I think at the end it is, [09:16] schestowitz-TR 1) either write things down [09:16] schestowitz-TR 2) or don't make any lists at all, use intuition [09:16] schestowitz-TR either way, the truly important things are likely written down already, in any case [09:17] Techrights-sec posting of links can happen any time but posting of IRC logs can only happen [09:17] Techrights-sec after they've been prepared, so the two activities cannot be paired [09:17] Techrights-sec one of the problems is that it becomes rote and done witout thought and thus [09:17] Techrights-sec is not thought about; it is overdue for automation but that is contingent [09:17] Techrights-sec upon the OS upgrade ... [09:17] *u-amarsh04 has quit (Quit: Konversation terminated!) [09:17] *u-amarsh04 (~amarsh04@freenode-rmogvn.g0d7.dtdf.mc4289.IP) has joined #boycottnovell [09:17] *u-amarsh04 (~amarsh04@v6xmmrhxmbafc.irc) has joined #boycottnovell [09:17] schestowitz-TR and probably CMS change, too [09:18] schestowitz-TR the gemini side of IRC logs is automated and never gets it wrong when I check (which is rare) [09:19] Techrights-sec Gemini is handled on an uptodate OS [09:19] Techrights-sec more / better / relevant tools are available there [09:20] schestowitz-TR noptice how gemini always updates OK on its own following changes made with tc, some cleanup of stale [09:20] schestowitz-TR processes etc. [09:20] schestowitz-TR I've not even had to log in for a week [09:31] schestowitz-TR I've decided to do the video about lunduke later today along with the EPO video [09:31] schestowitz-TR as it's faster when several are done in a row [09:31] schestowitz-TR I don't plan to cover gemini much anymore [09:31] schestowitz-TR it's still growing and there's lots I can just link to, instead [09:40] Techrights-sec ack [09:42] schestowitz-TR maybe the key message is, [09:42] schestowitz-TR if you want to support Gemini then, [09:42] schestowitz-TR a) use it [09:42] schestowitz-TR b) link to it [09:42] schestowitz-TR (b) follows (a) and (b) helps people learn about gemini because it they stmble upon gemini:// [09:42] schestowitz-TR link and want to open it, then they must learn something new [09:46] Techrights-sec more importantly, at this point in time, would be packaging for key distros [09:46] Techrights-sec of the Gemini clients; that is the next step [09:46] Techrights-sec it cannot grow beyond the niche it has without being accessible to normal [09:46] Techrights-sec GNU/Linux and BSD users [09:47] schestowitz-TR at the moment a lot of gnu/linux and bsd users are technical [09:47] schestowitz-TR you could argue that growth can come through "mobile" [09:47] schestowitz-TR even if that sucks [09:47] schestowitz-TR seeing articles about mastodon, i wonder if the message should still be [09:47] schestowitz-TR just abandon social control media completely [09:47] Techrights-sec there's technical and then there's bleeding edge; both can agtee that it is [09:47] Techrights-sec not appropriate to require people to build from source and update from source [09:47] Techrights-sec in the context of average software [09:47] Techrights-sec I would say yes, that social control media in all its forms should be [09:47] Techrights-sec avoided for many reasons [09:49] schestowitz-TR other links/daily links no longer contain those [09:49] schestowitz-TR and NOTHING OF VALUE WAS LOST [09:49] schestowitz-TR if they have something important to say, they will blog about it [09:49] schestowitz-TR and if it can be summed up in one sentence alone [09:49] schestowitz-TR then it's likely not of much value [09:49] schestowitz-TR and might not be verifiaable, which is likely the more important aspect [09:49] Techrights-sec especially since none of the articles truly explain the federated nature of [09:49] Techrights-sec Mastodon and even then the blacklists are automated and centralized anyway [09:49] Techrights-sec Yes, blogging is the way to go [09:50] schestowitz-TR The Web we Lost - Anil Dash (article, talks etc.) [citation] ● Apr 28 [10:00] schestowitz-TR wow, lxer links to techrights today and the traffic is like... nothing. [10:00] schestowitz-TR yeah, don't smile too fast [10:00] schestowitz-TR yesterday I also saw 3 links from reddit [10:00] schestowitz-TR same, no traffic [10:00] schestowitz-TR it's becoming like traffic in twitter [10:00] schestowitz-TR or casinos and gambling in the street or arcade tokens [10:00] schestowitz-TR they show you the "success stories" (like front page) [10:00] schestowitz-TR of jackpots [10:00] schestowitz-TR but for 99% of more it's nothing but a dream [10:00] schestowitz-TR false marketing [10:00] schestowitz-TR some people join twitter for "activism" [10:00] schestowitz-TR because they saw Daily Mail something... [10:00] Techrights-sec :) [10:00] Techrights-sec :( [10:00] Techrights-sec So lxer is much smaller than it used to be [10:00] Techrights-sec they promote those statistical anomalies as if they were the rule and not the [10:00] Techrights-sec exception [10:00] Techrights-sec Notice also that Facebook and the others only get 'growth' coverage and [10:00] Techrights-sec mostly only positive articles, to help keep them afloat [10:03] schestowitz-TR you have seen how I put it [10:03] schestowitz-TR the real news is that that facebook loses relevance [10:03] schestowitz-TR but that FB itself ADMITS it [10:03] schestowitz-TR using its secret, proprietary data [10:03] schestowitz-TR and now the Zuck is getting to gripsm with it having no real future [10:03] Techrights-sec yes [10:03] schestowitz-TR so he wants some fiction he may have read about as a kid to [10:03] schestowitz-TR a) be hyped up by media like "hey hi" (metaverse, meta, vr, ar) [10:03] schestowitz-TR b) become market leader in this [10:03] schestowitz-TR c) keep shareholdera around for (b), based on lies in (a) [10:03] schestowitz-TR Microsoft is the same in the post-Windows era [10:04] schestowitz-TR security [10:04] schestowitz-TR games [10:04] schestowitz-TR military-ware [10:04] schestowitz-TR hosting (azure) [10:04] schestowitz-TR developers developers developers (shithub) [10:17] schestowitz-TR "CNC Engraver" https://hackaday.com/2022/04/27/no-laser-cnc-engraver-is-something-new-under-the-sun/ | Source: Hackaday [10:17] -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-No-Laser CNC Engraver Is Something New Under The Sun | Hackaday [10:18] Techrights-sec M$ has lost some of the games market already, how much more remains to be [10:18] Techrights-sec seen and appears to have put them in a panic [10:18] Techrights-sec the loss of github is problematic especially because too many idiots and [10:18] Techrights-sec idiot journals try to conflate version control and Git specifically with GitHub [10:20] schestowitz-TR some of the time, not all the time, this is deliberate [10:20] schestowitz-TR the equiv. of producing FB "happy stories" (we met in FB, got married..) [10:20] schestowitz-TR BTW, ICBM does ther same [10:20] schestowitz-TR I occasionally show examples of this [10:20] schestowitz-TR LF also (FOSSForce is one of their tentacles, but that can turn Christine into [10:20] schestowitz-TR another SPAMnil) [10:20] Techrights-sec In th beginning, every time FB started to ebb, the tabloids and worse filled [10:20] Techrights-sec with "happy stories" about FB [10:20] Techrights-sec FOMO was pushed heavily and still is [10:21] schestowitz-TR Girls I met online (and then in person) were always not good [10:21] schestowitz-TR not to say ones I met in person first were perfect [10:21] schestowitz-TR but at least you find out evry fast [10:22] Techrights-sec yes [10:24] schestowitz-TR I cannot imagine doing job interviews or court hearings "online" [10:24] schestowitz-TR It is a grotesque notion that shows how supposed "progress" [10:24] schestowitz-TR is exactly the opposite of it [10:24] schestowitz-TR it's like calling pr0n a progress for sex [10:24] schestowitz-TR or like calling [something] better than xuisine [10:24] schestowitz-TR cannot think of that something yet, maybne a pastry and coffee at starbucks [10:24] schestowitz-TR hmmmmmmmm!!! STARBUCKS... SOOOOOO DELICIOUS!!! [10:26] Techrights-sec Most places make it illegal to dig around online and especially in social [10:26] Techrights-sec control media for job applicants, but the way around that is to outsource [10:26] Techrights-sec part of the hiring process one or two layers deep and turn a blind eye to [10:26] Techrights-sec contractor abuses and violations [10:26] schestowitz-TR Gulag approached me 2-3 times over the years after "stalking" me online [10:26] schestowitz-TR I assume in USENET [10:27] schestowitz-TR if that's illegal, and according to what chris DiBono told me this is in fact what the recruiters do [10:27] schestowitz-TR (along with headhunting), then maybe legal action is overdue [10:27] schestowitz-TR *DiBona [10:27] schestowitz-TR (of course he tries to destroy GNU/RMS/FSF now) [10:27] schestowitz-TR (the millionaire turncoat who is troubled by poor activists) [10:27] Techrights-sec Google approached me in person a *very* long time ago but I was quit turned [10:27] Techrights-sec off by their (then) recent hiring of microsofters and spend the encounter [10:27] Techrights-sec warning them of the consequences of bringing microsofters inside the company [10:27] Techrights-sec needsless to say they did not heed and my warnings were proven prescient :( [10:31] schestowitz-TR Red Hat has had similar problems [10:31] schestowitz-TR Not sure about Canonical [10:31] schestowitz-TR but at the back of our minds we should perpetuALLy have this lingering reminder [10:31] schestowitz-TR that states too DO NOT want citizens to control their devices [10:31] schestowitz-TR s [10:31] schestowitz-TR so there will be coordinated efforts to promote centralised "media" [10:31] schestowitz-TR and consolidated media [10:31] schestowitz-TR not blogs [10:31] schestowitz-TR or OSes that are like chromeOS [10:31] schestowitz-TR as a compromise for when Windows is up in flames and down in market share [10:33] Techrights-sec Canonical has been thoroughly ruined from the inside by microsofters. [10:33] Techrights-sec The exit strategy seems to be to bail via IPO next year. [10:33] Techrights-sec Correct, a lot of overt and covert action will be taken to ensure that [10:33] Techrights-sec groups and projects move in a centralized, proprietary direction. [10:33] Techrights-sec Remmber the "licensing disagreement" that blocked the pro-open standards [10:33] Techrights-sec web sites, almost down to a site, during the hours that some of the European [10:33] Techrights-sec states were deliberating on OOXML. That "disagrteement" was resolved within [10:33] Techrights-sec minutes of the decision and within an hour or so, service was restored once it [10:33] Techrights-sec was too late to influence the decision(s) [10:34] Techrights-sec LXD is not available on Devuan and only via Snaps on Debian. :/ [10:35] Techrights-sec LXC is somewhat insecure, last I read :\ [10:36] schestowitz-TR ectra complexity was never good for security [10:36] schestowitz-TR for a number of reasons [10:36] schestowitz-TR I know, I know... they will say "insulation", "isolatioon", "abstraction" etc. [10:36] schestowitz-TR but containers are not the way [10:36] schestowitz-TR you end up having to deal with a lot more files all over the place [10:38] Techrights-sec a Snaps on Debian. :/ [10:38] Techrights-sec LXC is somewhat insecure, last I read :\ [10:38] Techrights-sec I figure shared hosting may the best way to go, but I can see some convenience [10:38] Techrights-sec factors with "just" copying a large image from one machine to another [10:38] Techrights-sec The container itself is a service and a complex one at that. Complexity is BAD.From the little I see of LXC / LXD [10:38] Techrights-sec and FreeBSD jails, FreeBSD jails seem [10:38] Techrights-sec worlds better. [10:41] schestowitz-TR disk space got cheaper [10:41] schestowitz-TR b/w is less of a problem in most places [10:41] schestowitz-TR www got bloated because it's "faster" (for development) to ignore contraints and limits [10:41] schestowitz-TR similarly, on the server side and desktop (flatpak/snap), containers are seen as "compromise" [10:41] schestowitz-TR just get half a gig of "stuff" for some small progra [10:41] schestowitz-TR AppImages are also MASSIVE [10:41] schestowitz-TR but we no longer federate installs using cd-roms or even DVDs [10:41] schestowitz-TR from what I recall, the install media for Vista 11 is loaded with lots of very very [10:41] schestowitz-TR poor-quality cruft [10:41] schestowitz-TR this is where the world goes (EPO also): low-quality junk in high quantities [10:41] schestowitz-TR kettle every year, OS with EOL after 2 years, patents on CHEWING GUM [10:47] schestowitz-TR ==== [10:47] schestowitz-TR on a positive note, I think we have done a fantastic job, all things considered (like people moving to "apps" [10:47] schestowitz-TR as jail-as-'media'), in TM and TR [10:47] schestowitz-TR I had to cut off a lot of the patent new picks as it's more noisy than it's worth [10:47] schestowitz-TR I am back to work tonight, but will do a recording on EPO (now in lxer) and Lunduke [10:47] schestowitz-TR The upside of his articles, lunacy notwithstanding (I saw none of the rest; I dumped him like a hot potato [10:47] schestowitz-TR when he was shilling Microsoft), is they they legitimise what we've long said about OSI, LF, and others [10:47] schestowitz-TR and you can be sure he has read us as when you research those issues Techrights is very visible [10:47] schestowitz-TR hence the likes of Gulagboy coming to IRC looking for "material" [10:47] schestowitz-TR last week I learned that it's "homophobic" to be against PentaGAFAM [10:47] schestowitz-TR even if you write about an org led by someone whom you presume is hetero [10:47] schestowitz-TR but I think that trick will backfire on him [10:47] schestowitz-TR He stepped away from OSI, partly, this year [10:47] schestowitz-TR Phipps is back [10:47] Techrights-sec yes, a lot of good work and you do a *lot* of work [10:47] Techrights-sec ack [10:47] Techrights-sec In a good way or a bad way? [10:51] schestowitz-TR OK, I don't want to ctrl c/v into unix term [10:51] schestowitz-TR go to the osi site/blog, search for webmink or phipps [10:51] schestowitz-TR he wrote about things like patents [10:51] schestowitz-TR which I think is an area they should be active in [10:51] schestowitz-TR he rallied people in the EU to submit input [10:51] schestowitz-TR I used to chat with him privately about those issues [10:51] schestowitz-TR before we got into big arguments over the OSI's direction and Patrick resigned [10:51] schestowitz-TR he was so proud that he promoted diversity that he lost sight [10:51] schestowitz-TR of what those people stood for (or didn't) [10:55] Techrights-sec That's good news then. [10:57] schestowitz-TR it would be counter-productive if I wrote something like, phipps is back and writing [10:57] schestowitz-TR for osi for first time in years [10:57] schestowitz-TR as it would also give the false impression he's as important (or of integrity) as [10:57] schestowitz-TR Perens [10:57] schestowitz-TR Phipps worked with FSFE to undermine FSF [10:57] schestowitz-TR Perens is corresponding with RMS [10:57] schestowitz-TR while phipps mocks him and signs ant-RMS defmation writs [10:58] schestowitz-TR "Its very early days for CAD Sketcher, a new parametric CAD add-on for Blender by [hlorus], but it looks very promising" https://hackaday.com/2022/04/27/cad-sketcher-its-parametric-cad-for-blender/ [10:58] -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-CAD Sketcher, Its Parametric CAD For Blender | Hackaday ● Apr 28 [11:02] schestowitz-TR a longstanding, applicable, suitable analogy is "doping" [11:02] schestowitz-TR like financial doping in football clubs [11:02] schestowitz-TR some of these "open source" people try to cheat their way into thrones [11:02] schestowitz-TR so they provoke and lie and suck up [11:02] schestowitz-TR and temporarily they might benefit [11:02] schestowitz-TR all the coup leaders (vs rms) are out [11:02] schestowitz-TR gulagboy not in gulag [11:02] schestowitz-TR deb not in osi [11:02] schestowitz-TR bully and mcgovern unemployed [11:02] schestowitz-TR not sure where deb is [11:03] schestowitz-TR she vanished [11:03] schestowitz-TR like MattL [11:03] schestowitz-TR spamnil is busy tryint to bear gulag's algos and get noticed [11:03] schestowitz-TR LF too will drop him [11:03] schestowitz-TR in my articles FOR the video on LF I already have 3 new linkss [11:03] schestowitz-TR about LF [11:03] schestowitz-TR they got some other new lackey to run linux.com [11:03] schestowitz-TR I mentioned him in passing a month ago [11:03] schestowitz-TR Lunduke did mention their NFT lunacy! [11:04] schestowitz-TR going on "RT" for an interview is a bit like doping [11:04] schestowitz-TR it might seem like a good idea (at the time) [11:04] schestowitz-TR but years later you can get blacklisted like Russian atheletes [11:04] schestowitz-TR so better say, "no thank you... I'd rather not be on TV than be associated with you" [11:07] *DaemonFC (~daemonfc@93guvmvhwvydg.irc) has joined #boycottnovell [11:07] schestowitz-TR Assange paid a MASSIVE price, for 10 years, for having some show broadcast via some company in "RT" [11:07] schestowitz-TR some other associates of his (Jeremie and others) can get "marked" for this [11:08] schestowitz-TR afaik chomsky never went on iranian or russian channels, ever [11:08] schestowitz-TR not sure if hedges counts [11:08] schestowitz-TR I think hedges just sold his episodes to RT [11:08] schestowitz-TR "RT" is not news [11:08] schestowitz-TR RT is a campaign to descridit EU and US [11:08] schestowitz-TR and they will rope anything in... to support this mission [11:08] schestowitz-TR under the guise of "journalism" and "free press" [11:08] Techrights-sec ack [11:08] Techrights-sec apt analogy [11:08] Techrights-sec yes good call [11:08] Techrights-sec the associatino hurt both RMS and JA from day one [11:15] schestowitz-TR doping [metaphor]: doing something to get ahead, at least temporarily, despite knowing and sensing that it [11:15] schestowitz-TR may be counter-intuitive and counter-productive. Ex: clickbait. [11:15] schestowitz-TR I am trying to recall the name of IDG "journalists" who made up people and quotes. Randall Keneddy? I think [11:15] schestowitz-TR at least one of those names is right, but anyway his career was over after this and past articles were [11:15] schestowitz-TR retroactively disgraced. He did some reporting against Microsoft, but you would not wish to link to this [11:15] schestowitz-TR knowing what you know about him now. [11:17] schestowitz-TR "CBS News hiring former Trump aide Mick Mulvaney speaks volumes about systemic problems in our media. Mulvaney noto [11:17] schestowitz-TR riously defended various Trump chicaneries" https://fair.org/home/damn-good-for-cbs-but-really-bad-for-democracy/ [11:17] schestowitz-TR | Source: FAIR [11:17] -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-fair.org | Damn Good for CBSbut Really Bad for Democracy - FAIR [11:17] schestowitz-TR ^Bryan Lunduke, "Linux Sucks!" [11:20] Techrights-sec unfortunatley so [11:20] Techrights-sec I can't reca;; specific IDG "journalists" [11:21] schestowitz-TR I have just checked [11:21] schestowitz-TR Randall C. Kennedy [11:21] schestowitz-TR wrote a lot in infoworld [11:21] schestowitz-TR when it still ran/existed (I've not even seen that domain in ages) [11:23] Techrights-sec InfoWorld was ok back in the 1990s [11:23] Techrights-sec perhaps a bit longer too [11:27] Techrights-sec THat's common: buy a brand or take over the name from the insude and then [11:27] Techrights-sec gut it for short term profit [11:27] Techrights-sec do it for a few quarters before people catch on and use the rising stock [11:27] Techrights-sec prices to cash in and to get a new job doing more of the same damage at [11:27] Techrights-sec a new company [11:28] schestowitz-TR Twitter. [11:28] schestowitz-TR Infoworld: [11:28] schestowitz-TR now oened by some chinee entity [11:28] schestowitz-TR they use a few of the still-online domain for "BRAND POST" [11:28] schestowitz-TR and other sponsored webspam [11:28] schestowitz-TR trying to ride what's left of the past reputation [11:28] schestowitz-TR they used to do BOSSIE Awards [11:28] Techrights-sec THat's common: buy a brand or take over the name from the insude and then [11:28] Techrights-sec gut it for short term profit [11:28] Techrights-sec do it for a few quarters before people catch on and use the rising stock [11:28] Techrights-sec prices to cash in and to get a new job doing more of the same damage at [11:28] Techrights-sec a new company [11:29] schestowitz-TR Twitter. [11:29] schestowitz-TR SCMP [11:29] schestowitz-TR (for Chinese example) [11:42] schestowitz-TR Singapore has quite a few examples, but I forgot the details due to passange of time [11:42] schestowitz-TR On the plane they handed out 'free' copies of the regime's media [11:42] schestowitz-TR PAP [11:42] schestowitz-TR showbox-for-home land [11:42] schestowitz-TR Shoe [11:42] schestowitz-TR Overpopulation based on hype and consumrism [11:42] schestowitz-TR mandatory military service for men [11:43] schestowitz-TR and reliance on imports as they barely make anything of their own [11:43] schestowitz-TR same as macao (IIRC highest pop. density in the planet) [11:43] Techrights-sec ack [11:55] schestowitz-TR Don't let corporations conflate social cohesion with commercial impunity ● Apr 28 [12:04] schestowitz-TR I want to ask you, [12:04] schestowitz-TR regarding Canonical [12:04] schestowitz-TR neither of us is an accountant [12:04] schestowitz-TR but I was thinking in th e kitchen [12:04] schestowitz-TR the company was insolvent years ago [12:04] schestowitz-TR if they say "IPO", does that mean buying time with other people's money? [12:04] schestowitz-TR Also, MS (Mark S) claims profits [12:04] schestowitz-TR why now? [12:04] schestowitz-TR Why not before? [12:04] schestowitz-TR They killed off the community [12:04] schestowitz-TR in a lot of ways [12:04] schestowitz-TR could he be faking it and, if the firm is private, what would be the ramifications? [12:04] schestowitz-TR (nb. most businesses do not make money, but they hide it or talk about "the future") [12:04] schestowitz-TR [this is brainstorming IN CASE I want to thjrow a hat in the ring] [12:04] schestowitz-TR if a company turns from losses to big profits while the users of its flagship product FLEE, something [12:04] schestowitz-TR seems a tad "off" [12:17] Techrights-sec It's probably his way of cashing out and leaving, having had enough [12:19] schestowitz-TR ok, here is the thing [12:19] schestowitz-TR if I said something dismissive [12:19] schestowitz-TR and someone said, "PROVE IT!" [12:19] schestowitz-TR I would not have compelling material [12:19] schestowitz-TR but intuition and guy feelign say he's just making proclamation [12:19] schestowitz-TR to encourage people to invest [12:19] schestowitz-TR but once they see if from the inside, they'll realise it has many server [12:19] schestowitz-TR users but not so much money [12:19] schestowitz-TR a lot of that happens, buyer's remorse [12:19] schestowitz-TR like IBM [12:21] schestowitz-TR ---- [12:21] schestowitz-TR years ago mandriva was enraged that MS (Mark S), having grabbed the lion's share of desktyop users, [12:21] schestowitz-TR moaned that there was "no money in it" [12:21] schestowitz-TR while he was doing ShipIt [12:21] schestowitz-TR and Mandriva was trying toi upsell superpacks [12:21] schestowitz-TR so even then he complained he was in it for money [12:21] schestowitz-TR not altruism [12:21] schestowitz-TR and then focused more on eating debian's and icbm's lunch [12:21] schestowitz-TR instead of microsoft's or apple's [12:22] Techrights-sec yes Mark could have done well except for allowing the microsofters into MOTU [12:22] Techrights-sec which damaged the project + company, then he made the damage permanent [12:22] Techrights-sec by hiring in more micrtosofters and placing them within the company [12:23] schestowitz-TR the first I knew of, via IRC ("tacone" from Italy) was Rick Sponcer [12:23] schestowitz-TR later Jono Bacon was licking the boot [12:23] schestowitz-TR and then there was the Azure turnoff, WSL etc. [12:23] schestowitz-TR WSL failed so badly [12:23] schestowitz-TR that it's mostly WINDOWS sites shilling it, and even that it rare this year [12:26] Techrights-sec Bacon was a spinmeister and more a diode than conduit, he was to lord on high [12:26] Techrights-sec to the community about how they were going to have to accept, than interact [12:26] Techrights-sec with the community and negotiate mutal goals and work towards them; [12:26] Techrights-sec he was a *VERY BIG PART* of the problem with Canonical; Yet despite doing [12:26] Techrights-sec so much damage to the company and the project he was lauded for his efforts [12:26] Techrights-sec rather than thrashed and driven out into isolation [12:26] Techrights-sec as he more rightly deserved [12:34] Techrights-sec Many were fooled by his (mis-)use of the title Community Manager and did not [12:34] Techrights-sec look further at his harmful actions. [12:34] Techrights-sec add one more to the fail pile if you count his time at Ubuntu ... [12:35] schestowitz-TR "art" of community managerment [12:35] schestowitz-TR his art is not graphics, or barely. His "art" is shouting into the microphone. [12:35] schestowitz-TR which I think speaks "volumes". [12:35] schestowitz-TR "bad volume" [12:35] schestowitz-TR his current podcast [12:35] schestowitz-TR he had many failed ones over the years, more than I can recall [12:35] schestowitz-TR "bad volume" barely even focuses on Free software [12:35] schestowitz-TR his prior podcast was named after booze [12:35] schestowitz-TR he worked at github while Microsoft ambushed the company for takeover [12:35] schestowitz-TR (afaik, github manmagement was aware all along) [12:35] Techrights-sec I would not be surprised if he had somehow contributed to the demise of GitHub [12:36] schestowitz-TR he was there for a relatively short time, I think they failed to find somthing for him to do [12:36] schestowitz-TR as he lacked both the technical skills or.... well....what else? [12:36] Techrights-sec indeed [12:40] *DaemonFC has quit (Quit: Leaving) ● Apr 28 [14:08] *psydroid2 (~psydroid@memzbmehf99re.irc) has joined #boycottnovell ● Apr 28 [15:42] Techrights-sec of the news sites covering mastodon, many of them are calling it a "site" wint [15:42] Techrights-sec ^with [15:42] Techrights-sec with the implication that it is a centralized service and avoid mentioning even [15:42] Techrights-sec the idea of decentralization and federation; though truth be told, the centralized blacklists do a ot to neutralize [15:42] Techrights-sec the benefits of federation [15:42] Techrights-sec yep [15:43] schestowitz-TR the media is also mostly centralised [15:43] schestowitz-TR they cover the same BS [15:43] schestowitz-TR which comes from the same regimes and corporations [15:43] schestowitz-TR using the same funnels, such as Gulag search and FB [15:43] schestowitz-TR to them, www is just a bunch of "companies" and "stores" [15:43] schestowitz-TR this is not how the web started [15:44] Techrights-sec "Wired" at least has the federation part described correctly, despite it being [15:44] Techrights-sec a shadow of what it ws in the 1990s when they wrote regularly about cutting [15:44] Techrights-sec edge policy issues [15:45] schestowitz-TR the "they" changed [15:45] schestowitz-TR technical people and scholars, geeks [15:45] schestowitz-TR now stenographers with no relevant qualifications except grammar/english [15:45] schestowitz-TR sort of like what JUVE Patent became [15:45] schestowitz-TR not understanding of technical issue [15:45] schestowitz-TR no understanding of legal issues [15:45] schestowitz-TR or what patents are [15:46] Techrights-sec However, didn't mastodon have its roots in GNUsocial? [15:46] Techrights-sec The GNU Social roots of the fediverse would be a good topic to cover [15:46] Techrights-sec if you are still looking for video topics [15:50] schestowitz-TR I think you remember it not accurately, except the term "fediverse [15:50] schestowitz-TR " [15:50] schestowitz-TR mastodon afaik started from scratch as Twitter clone [15:50] schestowitz-TR and statusnet being gnu social predated that by a lot [15:50] schestowitz-TR later they connected across 'CMS' stuff, inc. for video [15:50] schestowitz-TR but never got around to diaspora [15:50] schestowitz-TR which likely hurt diaspora [15:50] schestowitz-TR (btw, THEY ARE ALL SHIT!) [15:50] schestowitz-TR they used to have many users, mastodon had momentum in 2017, but it's all going down the toilet [15:50] schestowitz-TR that's why joindiaspora pulled the plug... not many active users left [15:50] schestowitz-TR it is not a twitter issue (Also down) [15:50] schestowitz-TR or FB (down) [15:50] schestowitz-TR it's the concept [15:50] schestowitz-TR gamification of filtered communications [15:50] schestowitz-TR moanths ago when joindiaspora was throwiong in the towel I shows you some stats in a site that combinees all [15:50] schestowitz-TR a lot of the activity is historical [15:50] schestowitz-TR in recent years you saw lots of shutdowns, inc. distrotoot and drew devault's instance [15:51] Techrights-sec my innacuracy is due to my ignorance in that area, I have not followed it at all [15:51] Techrights-sec ack [15:52] schestowitz-TR in terms of videos, I'm well behind [15:52] schestowitz-TR I need to do belarus article, I'm well behind on RSS feed (lost a lot of time arguing in IRC) [15:52] schestowitz-TR need to then record about LF and Belarus [15:52] schestowitz-TR and I start work in 100 minutes ● Apr 28 [16:28] schestowitz-TR draft [16:28] schestowitz-TR the summary was an attempt at EPO tie-in, but I will expand a bit [16:28] Techrights-sec ack [16:28] Techrights-sec needs a tie-in to the EPO in the intro so that the reader knows this will [16:28] Techrights-sec be about patents or the EPO itself [16:29] Techrights-sec same for the conclusions [16:29] Techrights-sec thanks [16:35] schestowitz-TR ok, check the new summary and last paragraph [16:42] Techrights-sec nice. thanks! [16:42] Techrights-sec that provides much more context for the body [16:43] schestowitz-TR thanks for the sanity check [16:43] schestowitz-TR it did not occur to me [16:43] schestowitz-TR I work in 45 mins [16:43] schestowitz-TR so will start recording NOW [16:43] schestowitz-TR OTA ● Apr 28 [17:07] *u-amarsh04 has quit (Quit: Konversation terminated!) [17:07] *u-amarsh04 (~amarsh04@freenode-rmogvn.g0d7.dtdf.mc4289.IP) has joined #boycottnovell [17:07] *u-amarsh04 has quit (Quit: Konversation terminated!) [17:07] *u-amarsh04 (~amarsh04@v6xmmrhxmbafc.irc) has joined #boycottnovell ● Apr 28 [18:09] *DaemonFC (~daemonfc@7t94bdmew7pe4.irc) has joined #boycottnovell [18:30] *u-amarsh04 has quit (Quit: Konversation terminated!) [18:30] *u-amarsh04 has quit (Quit: Konversation terminated!) [18:50] schestowitz-TR 1) I was frustrated to lose my first recording re EPO, but the second time around was better anyway [18:50] schestowitz-TR and I learn my lessons (obs double checking) without losing anything os immense value [18:50] schestowitz-TR 2) while recording about lunmduke I realised he created some straw men [18:50] schestowitz-TR several incorrect assertion that can in fact discredit some of our thesis [18:50] schestowitz-TR so in a 'defensive' move I think my article will be focused on stating that is not true/accurate [18:50] schestowitz-TR and set the record straight [18:53] Techrights-sec ack [18:53] Techrights-sec strawmen are important to identify, they are distractions from the core issue [18:54] schestowitz-TR As I go along the text, like last year with vaccines, I realise [18:54] schestowitz-TR he mighht do more harm to us than good [18:54] schestowitz-TR with these straw men [18:54] schestowitz-TR on the surface OK, but it's easy to prove him wreong [18:54] schestowitz-TR or misguided on COVID, too [18:58] schestowitz-TR My text will be defensive [18:58] schestowitz-TR not what I planned [18:58] schestowitz-TR \I had a very fast read last night [18:58] schestowitz-TR but now, while recording, I saw many small errors [18:58] schestowitz-TR I will use the text to focus on that [18:58] schestowitz-TR to defend what we have shown [18:58] schestowitz-TR Lunduke might become the straw man, almost literally, for these issues [18:58] schestowitz-TR and that would benefit nobody [18:58] schestowitz-TR I want an outlet to burst out at the recording thing [18:58] schestowitz-TR which I already told rianne about [18:58] schestowitz-TR my mouse has bad buttons [18:58] schestowitz-TR so sometimes it clicks twice, not once [18:58] schestowitz-TR usually it's not causing any serious issues that I cannot correct [18:58] schestowitz-TR today it did m record/stop in succesion [18:58] schestowitz-TR but I consider myself lucky as I managed to recall about 20 minutes' worth of thingsd I said and say the same more [18:59] schestowitz-TR concisely [18:59] schestowitz-TR but I should not involutarily lose recordings [18:59] schestowitz-TR so now there is another step in the checklist [18:59] schestowitz-TR obs does not make it very obvious when it records [18:59] schestowitz-TR with webcomoid I have better protocols in place [18:59] schestowitz-TR also, after recording i had somew technical issue with a file, taking me about 20 minutes to correct [18:59] schestowitz-TR i.e. ther equivalent of time wasted recording to something that was not recording [18:59] schestowitz-TR it's all relative [18:59] Techrights-sec ack [18:59] Techrights-sec not just defend but also bring the discussion back on topic since strawmen [18:59] Techrights-sec fallacies are one form of distraction [18:59] Techrights-sec maybe the mouse can be disassembled and cleaned to restore it to working [18:59] Techrights-sec condition. if not then it MUST be recycled in the electonic waste :( ● Apr 28 [19:07] schestowitz-TR a simpler, well-overdue alternative is, improve the protcol for doubelk checking... in caase of double clicking: -) [19:07] schestowitz-TR I tend not to throw anything away [19:07] schestowitz-TR this is the first time I lose something with obs and it's not the fault of obs [19:07] schestowitz-TR there are more concrete issue like face and souns not being properly synched [19:07] schestowitz-TR because my hardware is not strerong enough [19:07] schestowitz-TR draft [19:09] Techrights-sec ack [19:09] Techrights-sec broken equipment needs to be either repaired or removed permanently in such [19:09] Techrights-sec a way as to prevent reuse either through temptation or forgetfulness [19:09] Techrights-sec a reminder of the self-styled nature of the nickname is in order if it is [19:09] Techrights-sec used [19:09] Techrights-sec also it needs to be reminded (as always) that EPO is not part of the EU [19:09] Techrights-sec epsecially since EU is mentioned [19:10] schestowitz-TR I will revise the text a bit [19:10] schestowitz-TR I attempted to recall things I said when thinking I was recording and it was not recording [19:10] schestowitz-TR but anyway, lessons learned, no major harm done [19:14] *psydroid2 has quit (Quit: Leaving) [19:15] *psydroid2 (~psydroid@memzbmehf99re.irc) has joined #boycottnovell [19:20] Techrights-sec ack [19:28] schestowitz-TR it will always be a terrible feeling losing text of multimedia you worked on [19:28] schestowitz-TR with text it can be worse because text is a process with refinements [19:28] schestowitz-TR whereas audio can be spontaneous [19:28] schestowitz-TR it's impossible to meliminate all data loss [19:28] schestowitz-TR but possible to reduce it [19:28] schestowitz-TR with text, I now write to the pi over ssh (all working text files) [19:28] schestowitz-TR if the pi dies, I have local copies [19:28] schestowitz-TR if the local machine dies, the piu has all the files [19:28] schestowitz-TR but tbh,m I very rarely lose text [19:28] schestowitz-TR I lost an article more than 10 years ago after the palm PDA messed something up in the transfer [19:28] schestowitz-TR ity was something about Vista 7 [19:28] schestowitz-TR and not a very long or detailed article [19:28] schestowitz-TR like the one I did "interview" for muktware) inside the gym [19:28] schestowitz-TR that one was rather long [19:28] schestowitz-TR if I at least know I did what was possible to reduce loss (horrible feeling) and it no longer happens [19:28] schestowitz-TR often, then I'm happy [19:28] Techrights-sec yep [19:28] Techrights-sec it is hard torecreae the old flow [19:28] Techrights-sec ack [19:28] Techrights-sec things generally work when watched closely, when it comes to intermittent problems [19:40] schestowitz-TR tm backup is happpening at this very moment [19:40] schestowitz-TR I sort of want it to fail at l;east once so that I know my check works OK [19:40] schestowitz-TR oh, wait, it's not compressing the dumps at all for TM [19:40] schestowitz-TR investigating... [19:40] schestowitz-TR I think I found the issuie [19:40] schestowitz-TR 'ionice nice' [19:40] schestowitz-TR no, wait, that still pu [19:40] schestowitz-TR lol, got it, I was testing the gz before it existed, I think [19:40] schestowitz-TR I think it'll be OK now, on your backups you may have up to 4 uncompressed TM dumps [19:40] schestowitz-TR I am compressing the 5 of them now [19:41] schestowitz-TR later on today I'll have a lot of catching up to do with linux news [19:41] schestowitz-TR and with work [19:41] schestowitz-TR but it's almost weekend already! [19:41] Techrights-sec race condition :/ [19:41] Techrights-sec ack [19:43] *DaemonFC has quit (Quit: Leaving) [19:57] schestowitz-TR I'm still two posts behdind [19:57] schestowitz-TR rianne will help post the latest news to TM [19:57] schestowitz-TR also helps with work atm [19:57] schestowitz-TR testing 5 latest gz files in tmux [19:57] Techrights-sec ack [19:57] Techrights-sec excellent [19:57] schestowitz-TR coffee [19:57] schestowitz-TR all were OK, I will check the script tomorrow ● Apr 28 [21:43] schestowitz-TR 'Public Knowledge' has just been infiltrated by Microsoft, so it is more likely to help cover up Microsofts crimes than promote actual knowledge https://publicknowledge.org/public-knowledge-welcomes-new-members-to-board-of-directors/ [21:43] -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-publicknowledge.org | Public Knowledge Welcomes New Members to Board of Directors - Public Knowledge ● Apr 28 [22:03] schestowitz-TR crosofts Anti-Linux Propaganda and Security Leftovers Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/164258 [22:03] -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-www.tuxmachines.org | Microsoft's Anti-Linux Propaganda and Security Leftovers | Tux Machines [22:03] schestowitz-TR see comment on Schneier [22:14] schestowitz-TR I will take the belarus text agsin and redo it to overcompensate for the loss [22:14] schestowitz-TR away I know, but there's a draft now [22:14] schestowitz-TR instead of blasting byan I directed the cirtiicsm towards the LF [22:24] *DaemonFC (~daemonfc@7t94bdmew7pe4.irc) has joined #boycottnovell [22:57] *psydroid2 has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) ● Apr 28 [23:24] Techrights-sec "General Manager of Microsofts Global Airband Initiative" from the first link [23:24] Techrights-sec was apparently bought from the FCC [23:24] Techrights-sec revolving door politics : [23:24] schestowitz-TR revolving door politics :/ [23:24] schestowitz-TR graft as governance [23:24] Techrights-sec revolving door politics :/ [23:24] Techrights-sec graft as governance [23:24] schestowitz-TR 0/ [23:24] schestowitz-TR You theory about calm before storm and FUD coordination seems more plausible [23:24] schestowitz-TR 3 links above\ [23:24] schestowitz-TR corporations are government, governments are corporations [23:24] schestowitz-TR graft [23:26] schestowitz-TR I've managed to remain rather clam considering all that happened today dnt his emotionally-draining [23:26] schestowitz-TR BS from Microsoft [23:26] schestowitz-TR I think we covered all the imports stuff in TM and TR has just had Daily Links [23:26] schestowitz-TR maybe I'll get a nap soon, need to recharge [23:27] schestowitz-TR tomorrow I'm free to video ideas, found none other than rehash of Microsoft FUD [23:27] schestowitz-TR which would be a waste of time, just fgive that more attention [23:27] schestowitz-TR so part 7 belarus [23:32] schestowitz-TR rms is asking me some questions about the whispers [23:32] schestowitz-TR but it's a tricky one [23:32] schestowitz-TR I only meant to drop a cautionary tip without disclosing much pertinent information [23:32] schestowitz-TR so as to balance the need to mitigate risk of another "boycott GNU" (or similar) [23:32] schestowitz-TR with respect for privacy of someone or a conversation [23:32] schestowitz-TR I decided after 2 days that I ought to at least say something [23:41] schestowitz > Another link to Knight: https://dcsolutionfocusedcounseling.com/ [23:41] schestowitz > [23:41] -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-dcsolutionfocusedcounseling.com | Home - BK Consulting [23:41] schestowitz HAHAHA! [23:41] schestowitz Thanks, I shall use that. [23:43] schestowitz Re: WorldIPday ipeurope [23:43] schestowitz > The tweets of iPeurope for worldipday are hilarious. [23:43] schestowitz > [23:43] schestowitz > Patents helps transportation lol. [23:43] schestowitz Without patents, toasters would not work and you would starve to death!! [23:43] Techrights-sec ack