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techrightssec2s/frivolous surveillance/frivolous harrassment/ ?Dec 28 01:10
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schestowitz-TRwith the spare time I've decided to devote some to explaining and showing what linuxhint has been up toDec 28 04:09
schestowitz-TRdrafts for 5am (misnight server time)Dec 28 04:09
schestowitz-TRhttps://nitter.pussthecat.org/StigmabaseN/status/1607696099300765696#mDec 28 05:28
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-nitter.pussthecat.org | Stigmabase | NORDIC (@StigmabaseN): "TW : Witch-hunts Backfiring: Koala Charities Leveraged by Sirius ‘Open Source’ as a Weapon Against the...: ...relative she has in the UK, had been diagnosed with an aggressive cancer and may need holidays to be confirmed (as many... http://dlvr.it/Sg0JqW" | Nitter | PussTheCat.orgDec 28 05:28
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schestowitz-TRlunduke uploading to youtube again, people ask why he deleted everythingDec 28 07:42
schestowitz-TRhe says his asthma is back and he sounds like a smokerDec 28 07:42
schestowitz-TRand he speaks in crypto about issues to sell subscription to articlesDec 28 07:42
schestowitz-TRwithout actually saying anything, to protect the paywallDec 28 07:42
schestowitz-TRi rarely click to play/watchDec 28 07:42
schestowitz-TRafter this I'm less likely toDec 28 07:42
schestowitz-TRalso, what he says about mozilla is hardly newDec 28 07:42
schestowitz-TRso far today has been quite productiveDec 28 07:42
schestowitz-TRexercise in 30 minsDec 28 07:42
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techrightssec2Is this site legitimate? https://www.opensourceforu.com/2022/12/more-shell-programming-secrets-nobody-talks-aboutDec 28 10:22
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-www.opensourceforu.com | More Shell Programming Secrets Nobody Talks AboutDec 28 10:22
schestowitz-TRi wondered the same a week agoiDec 28 10:23
schestowitz-TRit's a very weird site, but hit and missDec 28 10:23
schestowitz-TRdon't think it is automatedDec 28 10:23
schestowitz-TRseems like msft layoffs rumours intensifyDec 28 10:41
schestowitz-TRbased on web traffic in TRDec 28 10:41
schestowitz-TRmsft might delay to "prove" the rumours 'wrong'Dec 28 10:41
schestowitz-TRbut it's comingDec 28 10:41
schestowitz-TRhttps://www.opensourceforu.com/2022/12/more-shell-programming-secrets-nobody-talks-about  More Shell Programming Secrets Nobody Talks AboutDec 28 10:41
techrightssec2Overall layoffs at M$ are good but a harmful sideeffect is that the scum findDec 28 10:46
techrightssec2other employers and carry m$ toxic culture and products over to their new Dec 28 10:46
techrightssec2paymasters, effectively still working for m$Dec 28 10:46
techrightssec2One can hope...Dec 28 10:46
techrightssec2"talent"Dec 28 10:46
schestowitz-TRsome are on visa and not many companies hireDec 28 10:46
schestowitz-TRso the "dead weight" might end up almost nowhereDec 28 10:46
schestowitz-TRor so one can hope...nobody wants "WINDOWS TALENT" [sic]Dec 28 10:46
schestowitz-TResp. now with constrained budgetsDec 28 10:46
schestowitz-TRlook at it like this,Dec 28 10:48
schestowitz-TRwhere would you rather have them?Dec 28 10:48
schestowitz-TRin msft or outside?Dec 28 10:48
schestowitz-TRdeath is not an optionDec 28 10:48
schestowitz-TRis msft gets smaller, that's a plusDec 28 10:48
schestowitz-TRi've just realises andy's series does not talk much about free softwwareDec 28 10:48
schestowitz-TRit looks at the dystophia from another levelDec 28 10:48
techrightssec2not sure, it'd be best if there were a way to rehabilitate them but they lackDec 28 10:57
techrightssec2the mindset for computing and the ethics as well, so maybe outside of anyDec 28 10:57
techrightssec2part of ICT and, especially, education would be enough distanceDec 28 10:57
techrightssec2Perhaps each segment can include a mention of how FOSS is useful in mitigatingDec 28 11:17
techrightssec2or even reversing the dystopian trends. Dec 28 11:17
schestowitz-TRnuclear fusion hype ☛ https://www.counterpunch.org/2022/12/28/nuclear-fusion-dont-believe-the-hype/ | Source: Counter PunchDec 28 11:17
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-Nuclear Fusion:  Don’t Believe the Hype! - CounterPunch.orgDec 28 11:17
schestowitz-TRopium... "He is partly right. Not only do governments invest in sports as a form of distraction" ☛ https://www.counterpunch.org/2022/12/28/on-football-opium-and-popular-resistance-not-all-sports-are-created-equal/ | Source: Counter PunchDec 28 11:26
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-On Football, Opium and Popular Resistance: Not All Sports Are Created Equal  - CounterPunch.orgDec 28 11:26
schestowitz-TRis there still a way to retrieve paragraphs from bodies in commondreamsDec 28 11:36
schestowitz-TRthey seem to have changed something over xmas, not it's empty like in truthoutDec 28 11:36
schestowitz-TR*now it's emptyDec 28 11:37
schestowitz-TRsome other sites are too, but since ages agoDec 28 11:37
techrightssec2CheckingDec 28 11:48
techrightssec2Thanks for spotting that.  It should work correctly starting with tomorrow's feed, they had changed some of the cDec 28 11:48
techrightssec2lasses involved but otherwise the structureDec 28 11:48
techrightssec2was the same.Dec 28 11:48
techrightssec2Which others need correction?  As always scraping is brittle so if a singleDec 28 11:48
techrightssec2letter or number changes in the wrong place, the script misses the information.Dec 28 11:48
schestowitz-TRThanks, I think counterpunch still picks par 2-3 due to some old campaign that occupied par 1Dec 28 11:51
techrightssec2Checking, againDec 28 12:01
schestowitz-TRmaybe we could add some moreDec 28 12:07
schestowitz-TRbut I'm not sure whichDec 28 12:07
schestowitz-TRmany are not updating oftenDec 28 12:07
techrightssec2ok, counterpunch is now updated and the effects will be seen next timeDec 28 12:07
techrightssec2thanks for spotting that one tooDec 28 12:07
schestowitz-TRgoing to ahve Daily Links soonDec 28 12:08
schestowitz-TRmore topics would help, might cover andy's thing tooDec 28 12:08
techrightssec2FOSS is useful in mitigating or even reversing the dystopian trends.Dec 28 12:18
techrightssec2^ topic ?Dec 28 12:18
schestowitz-TRyes, I will tackle this angle and tell soms of my old stories of "IT dept" in universitiesDec 28 12:19
schestowitz-TRthey were awful in the later yearsDec 28 12:19
schestowitz-TRflunkies basicallyDec 28 12:19
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techrightssec2corporate flunkies working against the university, and double handful of Dec 28 12:47
techrightssec2resellers tooDec 28 12:47
techrightssec2The Manjaro link in "other" shows some persistent misunderstandings,           Dec 28 14:13
techrightssec2misinformation about the very nature of sw patents.  Same for the latestDec 28 14:13
techrightssec2Brodie video in the same batch.  Submarine patents are a threat for theirDec 28 14:13
techrightssec2entire life cycle and unlike trademarks don't have to be enforced to beDec 28 14:13
techrightssec2kept valid.  Like with GIF / LZW a standards-essential patent can be allowed andDec 28 14:13
techrightssec2even encouraged to spread far and wide so as to maximize the amount of moneyDec 28 14:13
techrightssec2harvested in the shakedown when the patent is enforced for the first time.Dec 28 14:13
techrightssec2^ topic ?Dec 28 14:13
techrightssec2(and RMS is right about "IPR" being not only a misnomer but intentionallyDec 28 14:13
techrightssec2 confusing people on the separate topics)Dec 28 14:13
schestowitz-TRthanks, otax3Dec 28 14:17
psydruidhow do these (western) patents hold up in countries like India, China and Russia?Dec 28 14:17
schestowitz-TRicbm lobbying indiaDec 28 14:32
schestowitz-TRmicrosoft alsoDec 28 14:32
schestowitz-TRand using IAM and other rags to shame those countriesDec 28 14:32
schestowitz-TRto assimilateDec 28 14:33
schestowitz-TRdone, writing now...Dec 28 14:49
schestowitz-TRx3Dec 28 14:49
techrightssec2ackDec 28 14:49
psydruidI would declare those companies "compania non grata"Dec 28 14:53
psydruidthey don't do anything for India, but obey their US masters insteadDec 28 14:53
schestowitz-TRthanks, I might quote you on thatDec 28 14:58
schestowitz-TRmade 3 videosDec 28 14:58
schestowitz-TRone about swpatsDec 28 14:58
schestowitz-TRi think debian does not play ball because it's not in the US per seDec 28 14:58
schestowitz-TRtaking account of SPI and Murdock, it would seem USianDec 28 14:59
schestowitz-TRbut many devs are europeanDec 28 14:59
techrightssec2ackDec 28 15:01
schestowitz-TRdraftDec 28 15:18
schestowitz-TRjust realised aral went under the radar for monthsDec 28 15:45
schestowitz-TRadded second draft while encoding still happening...Dec 28 15:45
schestowitz-TRfediverse = NO GO! Dec 28 15:53
schestowitz-TR"I HAVE THINGS TO DO!"Dec 28 15:53
schestowitz-TRbtw, today I found out "my" bank has a 'web site' that's also "app"Dec 28 15:53
schestowitz-TRcould not send money with rianne's JS blocker enabledDec 28 15:53
schestowitz-TRit just gave some cryptic error messageDec 28 15:53
schestowitz-TRtime wastedDec 28 15:54
schestowitz-TRthey think MOAR JS = MOAR securityDec 28 15:54
schestowitz-TRand the bank wants to allow 13 (!!!!!!) domains to run things!!Dec 28 15:54
schestowitz-TRwhat if one of them sduffered a beach?Dec 28 15:54
schestowitz-TRor rogue insider?Dec 28 15:54
schestowitz-TRor...Dec 28 15:54
techrightssec2I noticed that a while back.  He usually posts just past the middle of the monthDec 28 15:54
techrightssec2each month.  Dec 28 15:54
techrightssec2Maybe there is something in the fediverse but that's a javascript-only "app"Dec 28 15:54
techrightssec2nowadaysDec 28 15:54
techrightssec2If you check the depencency tree of the fully loaded "app" you Dec 28 15:57
techrightssec2If you check the depencency tree of the fully loaded "app" you will probablyDec 28 15:57
techrightssec2find many external domains and dozens of javascripts. :/Dec 28 15:57
techrightssec2will probablyDec 28 15:57
techrightssec2find many external domains and dozens of javascripts. :/Dec 28 15:57
techrightssec2If you check the depencency tree of the fully loaded "app" you will probablyDec 28 15:57
techrightssec2find many external domains and dozens of javascripts. :/Dec 28 15:57
schestowitz-TRlater they drone on and on about "supply chain"Dec 28 15:59
schestowitz-TRthe real solution isDec 28 15:59
schestowitz-TRas eu puts itDec 28 15:59
schestowitz-TRself-host fonts and the likeDec 28 15:59
schestowitz-TRstop bouncing peoople back and forthDec 28 15:59
schestowitz-TRbut the people who went to "uni" learned frameworksDec 28 15:59
schestowitz-TRand they lump them inDec 28 15:59
schestowitz-TRthat bouncing ball animiation might be a spurious frameworkDec 28 15:59
schestowitz-TRall sorts of effects whose function does not justify the added risk and bloatDec 28 15:59
techrightssec2PreciselyDec 28 15:59
schestowitz-TRthat will cause carbon emissionsDec 28 15:59
techrightssec2The more javascript is used the more bandwidth is consumed fetching the         Dec 28 16:02
techrightssec2frameworks and such *and* the more CPU is used on the client.  Rather thanDec 28 16:02
techrightssec2putting things server side, which can be more efficient overall in some cases,Dec 28 16:02
techrightssec2the dogma is to push as much onto the clients as possible.Dec 28 16:02
schestowitz-TRedge computing = do things at the client sideDec 28 16:02
schestowitz-TRclown computing = outsource everything, send js crap to the client sideDec 28 16:02
schestowitz-TRabandoned = take a task and do it at the server endDec 28 16:02
schestowitz-TRthey have another term for that, ee.g. "data mining" or "big data" or "data science"Dec 28 16:02
schestowitz-TRHEY HIDec 28 16:02
techrightssec2ackDec 28 17:05
schestowitz-TRTM traffic leapt about 20% compared to prior monthsDec 28 17:31
schestowitz-TRdid not check why, does not matter much, but it's an encouraging sign Dec 28 17:31
schestowitz-TRgood for moraleDec 28 17:32
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