(ℹ) Join us now at the IRC channel | ䷉ Find the plain text version at this address (HTTP) or in Gemini (how to use Gemini) with a full GemText version.
| schestowitz-TR | i had deep thoughts, lateral thinking, coming to the conclusion that today's media is so bad that very seldon | Jan 29 00:49 |
|---|---|---|
| schestowitz-TR | it inspires me to write an article. first i notcied this in patents and epo, now i can say the same | Jan 29 00:49 |
| schestowitz-TR | about gnu/linux, as many 'reports' are just x version y.z released | Jan 29 00:49 |
| schestowitz-TR | i am still trying to come up with publication strategy | Jan 29 00:50 |
| techrigthssec | What was the way to apply CamelCase to TM ? | Jan 29 01:56 |
| schestowitz-TR | nothing witty, just create TR Daily Links, then get the links from there, but i could pipe TM page submissions | Jan 29 01:59 |
| schestowitz-TR | through the same pipe | Jan 29 01:59 |
| schestowitz-TR | but atm I am more interesting in converting opml into html sets | Jan 29 01:59 |
| schestowitz-TR | rianne already goes through quiterss, so there is duplication of effort | Jan 29 01:59 |
| schestowitz-TR | also the same feeds at her end | Jan 29 01:59 |
| techrigthssec | When I checked, there was *very* little overlap with the host names between | Jan 29 02:04 |
| techrigthssec | the two. | Jan 29 02:04 |
| techrigthssec | Getting OPML into HTML would be for Python: parse XML, build dictionary, | Jan 29 02:04 |
| techrigthssec | save in key-value database, fetch the relevant (by date) feeds, parse XML, | Jan 29 02:04 |
| techrigthssec | build HTML (including details/summary elements), save to temporary file and | Jan 29 02:04 |
| techrigthssec | point a browser at that file. | Jan 29 02:04 |
| techrigthssec | At least that's what I've come up with so far. | Jan 29 02:04 |
| schestowitz-TR | that would be a vast improvement, not doing the next 5 years what i did the past 20 | Jan 29 02:07 |
| schestowitz-TR | atm i make some better improvements | Jan 29 02:07 |
| schestowitz-TR | to the setup here | Jan 29 02:07 |
| schestowitz-TR | i'd like to process the opml in a way that is different from rianne's | Jan 29 02:07 |
| schestowitz-TR | because rigth now it is a lot of click and drool and not much inherent alta vista | Jan 29 02:07 |
| schestowitz-TR | like assembling all the howtos in one place or grouping related topic, one by one, from GUI | Jan 29 02:07 |
| techrigthssec | The first and last parts have the Python modules xmltodict and dicttoxml | Jan 29 02:09 |
| techrigthssec | to convert to and from dictionaries, which are Python's closest equivalent | Jan 29 02:09 |
| techrigthssec | to a Perl hash | Jan 29 02:09 |
| techrigthssec | The db is needed to track the datetimestamps: most recent successful fetch, | Jan 29 02:09 |
| techrigthssec | most recent status code, and wait interval specified by the feed | Jan 29 02:09 |
| schestowitz-TR | that would be excellent | Jan 29 02:11 |
| schestowitz-TR | and a departure from the more time-consuming news survey, which like i said above, typically | Jan 29 02:11 |
| schestowitz-TR | does not involve much news, just releases, howtos, pr junk like spamnil | Jan 29 02:11 |
| techrigthssec | At the risk of buzzwords, there are a lot of modules to deal with JSON | Jan 29 02:29 |
| techrigthssec | so it might be possible to get the datetimestamp stuff into and out of | Jan 29 02:29 |
| techrigthssec | the key-value db via JSON more or less automatically. I'm not sure it's | Jan 29 02:29 |
| techrigthssec | efficient to run but looks like it is probably easy to write, given the | Jan 29 02:29 |
| techrigthssec | avialability of modules. From the dictionary, it is easy (given the modules) | Jan 29 02:29 |
| techrigthssec | to convert to XML. Then the slow part comes: XSLT to convert to HTML. | Jan 29 02:29 |
| techrigthssec | The json module for python does not seem to make ordered dictionaries, at | Jan 29 02:29 |
| techrigthssec | least at first glance. | Jan 29 02:29 |
| schestowitz-TR | that would be excellent | Jan 29 02:29 |
| schestowitz-TR | and a departure from the more time-consuming news survey, which like i said above, typically | Jan 29 02:29 |
| schestowitz-TR | does not involve much news, just releases, howtos, pr junk like spamnil | Jan 29 02:29 |
| schestowitz-TR | speaking of buzzword | Jan 29 02:29 |
| schestowitz-TR | andy has a new article re hey hi | Jan 29 02:29 |
| schestowitz-TR | i have 15 mins left to edit it | Jan 29 02:29 |
| schestowitz-TR | brb | Jan 29 02:29 |
| schestowitz-TR | heavilt inspired by what you wrote | Jan 29 02:29 |
| schestowitz-TR | published, still checking it | Jan 29 02:29 |
| schestowitz-TR | he used the unmask meme | Jan 29 02:29 |
| schestowitz[TR] | Re: Hey Hype | Jan 29 02:33 |
| schestowitz[TR] | > With gratitude to the Techrights readers whose comments | Jan 29 02:33 |
| schestowitz[TR] | > inspired this and the meme explanation. | Jan 29 02:33 |
| schestowitz[TR] | That's excellent. The adoption of terms like Hey Hype or Hey Hi Hype helps get across the idea that lots of it boils down to hype. I did lots of ML programming even 20+ years ago. There is a motivation here, like with CLOWN computing; they want to disclaim responsibility for what computer programs do (and take over, centralise if you will, all the services/data). | Jan 29 02:33 |
| schestowitz[TR] | Going to edit now. It'll be in Gemini afterwards. | Jan 29 02:33 |
| schestowitz[TR] | PS - had MASSIVE hardware disaster on Friday. Still recovering from it. | Jan 29 02:33 |
| techrigthssec | There is a work around. | Jan 29 02:34 |
| schestowitz-TR | lots n happening all at once | Jan 29 02:45 |
| schestowitz-TR | just ran ddos protection on tm-old | Jan 29 02:45 |
| techrigthssec | ack | Jan 29 02:49 |
| schestowitz-TR | the automation worked perfectly today! | Jan 29 02:50 |
| schestowitz-TR | need to just proofread andy now | Jan 29 02:50 |
| schestowitz-TR | then recalibrate news reading, will check email and python in the nexthour | Jan 29 02:50 |
| techrigthssec | ack | Jan 29 02:50 |
| techrigthssec | Excellent | Jan 29 02:50 |
| techrigthssec | ok | Jan 29 03:35 |
| schestowitz-TR | looking | Jan 29 03:37 |
| schestowitz-TR | i have given up on synergy for now | Jan 29 03:37 |
| schestowitz-TR | they are hunting down all 'free'copies | Jan 29 03:37 |
| schestowitz-TR | to sell their blob | Jan 29 03:37 |
| schestowitz-TR | going to look at the python now | Jan 29 03:37 |
| schestowitz-TR | leaving aside 3 sdie tasks | Jan 29 03:37 |
| techrigthssec | ak | Jan 29 03:38 |
| techrigthssec | ack | Jan 29 03:38 |
| techrigthssec | The fetching of the feeds and tracking of intervals would be needed to. | Jan 29 03:38 |
| techrigthssec | The scropts are not even sketches but simply studies of the modules to | Jan 29 03:38 |
| techrigthssec | see that they do indeed work. | Jan 29 03:38 |
| schestowitz-TR | looking | Jan 29 03:44 |
| schestowitz-TR | i have given up on synergy for now | Jan 29 03:44 |
| schestowitz-TR | they are hunting down all 'free'copies | Jan 29 03:44 |
| schestowitz-TR | to sell their blob | Jan 29 03:44 |
| schestowitz-TR | going to look at the python now | Jan 29 03:44 |
| schestowitz-TR | leaving aside 3 sdie tasks | Jan 29 03:44 |
| schestowitz-TR | funny anecdote: debian does not have python by default | Jan 29 03:44 |
| schestowitz-TR | i probably installed about 40 packages yesterday | Jan 29 03:44 |
| techrigthssec | I don't see why Python3 would be in Debian by default anyway. Perl is another | Jan 29 03:45 |
| techrigthssec | matter though since it is essential. | Jan 29 03:45 |
| schestowitz-TR | perl wasthere already | Jan 29 03:45 |
| techrigthssec | Yes, it has to bee. | Jan 29 03:46 |
| techrigthssec | ^be | Jan 29 03:46 |
| schestowitz-TR | that python3 pair is neat | Jan 29 03:50 |
| schestowitz-TR | very few lines | Jan 29 03:50 |
| schestowitz-TR | lots done by modularity | Jan 29 03:50 |
| schestowitz-TR | if i can have feeds converted into html all-in-ones i can find time to also glance at patent news | Jan 29 03:50 |
| schestowitz-TR | it was always a human capacity problem | Jan 29 03:50 |
| techrigthssec | yes it is relatively quick to work with but at the cost of opacity in some ways | Jan 29 03:52 |
| techrigthssec | As mentioned the modules work, now it is "just" a matter of figuring out | Jan 29 03:52 |
| techrigthssec | what to do with them. | Jan 29 03:52 |
| techrigthssec | ack | Jan 29 03:52 |
| schestowitz-TR | good: in-depth | Jan 29 03:52 |
| schestowitz-TR | bad: takes time, cannot weed out chaff | Jan 29 03:52 |
| schestowitz-TR | ugly: sometimes quiterss does not work or shits itself | Jan 29 03:52 |
| schestowitz-TR | a linear list of news is easy to align by topic | Jan 29 03:52 |
| schestowitz-TR | but not if confined to gui | Jan 29 03:52 |
| techrigthssec | QuiteRSS locks up a lot and appears more or less unmaintained; Therefore I no | Jan 29 03:53 |
| techrigthssec | longer consider it a long-term solution. | Jan 29 03:53 |
| schestowitz-TR | many rss feed readers are where newsgroups readers were 20 years ago | Jan 29 03:54 |
| schestowitz-TR | or irc clients in recent years | Jan 29 03:54 |
| schestowitz-TR | or... twitter clients... good riddance!! | Jan 29 03:54 |
| techrigthssec | Typical for many projects. | Jan 29 03:55 |
| schestowitz-TR | knode closed all my bug reports without solution | Jan 29 03:55 |
| schestowitz-TR | as fewer were still using it | Jan 29 03:55 |
| schestowitz-TR | yesterday in torrentfreak they covered usenet provider lawsuit | Jan 29 03:55 |
| techrigthssec | closed via timeout | Jan 29 03:57 |
| *psydroid2 (~psydroid@cbcfptirpkfqa.irc) has joined #boycottnovell | Jan 29 09:38 | |
| schestowitz-TR | knode closed all my bug reports without solution | Jan 29 09:46 |
| schestowitz-TR | as fewer were still using it | Jan 29 09:46 |
| schestowitz-TR | yesterday in torrentfreak they covered usenet provider lawsuit | Jan 29 09:46 |
| schestowitz-TR | colleague ot in touch today | Jan 29 09:46 |
| schestowitz-TR | i am making preview.sh suitable for OBS Studio | Jan 29 09:46 |
| schestowitz-TR | Webcamoid is OK, but time to love on and consolidate | Jan 29 09:46 |
| schestowitz-TR | *move | Jan 29 09:46 |
| schestowitz-TR | done, tested, i really look forward to this setup | Jan 29 09:46 |
| schestowitz-TR | i've successfully run both python script on my machine | Jan 29 10:18 |
| schestowitz-TR | nice | Jan 29 10:18 |
| schestowitz[TR] | python3 test-02-read-opml.py > 1.html && firefox 1.html | Jan 29 10:18 |
| techrigthssec | Right but they are studies and don't actually do anything. They verify | Jan 29 10:45 |
| techrigthssec | that the necessary modules exist and work. The hard work will be putting the | Jan 29 10:45 |
| techrigthssec | components together in the right way | Jan 29 10:45 |
| techrigthssec | Checking | Jan 29 10:45 |
| schestowitz-TR | just amended andy's article, might do videos in a bit | Jan 29 10:45 |
| schestowitz-TR | yes, i know the code is just experimental work | Jan 29 10:45 |
| schestowitz-TR | reuse of third party modules is good | Jan 29 10:45 |
| schestowitz-TR | with code, less is more when less means reuse | Jan 29 10:45 |
| schestowitz-TR | all my programs in the past decade were small and simple | Jan 29 10:45 |
| schestowitz-TR | i used to write very large programs | Jan 29 10:45 |
| schestowitz-TR | i found a small bug in my irc stuff this morning and fixed it | Jan 29 10:45 |
| schestowitz-TR | extra whitespace | Jan 29 10:45 |
| schestowitz-TR | but it does two passes, only the second pass was failing | Jan 29 10:45 |
| schestowitz-TR | making a new directory on my local machine for 2 days in a row | Jan 29 10:45 |
| schestowitz-TR | btw, social control media is collpsing fast | Jan 29 10:45 |
| schestowitz-TR | many accounts became inactivee in january | Jan 29 10:45 |
| schestowitz-TR | maybe new year's resolution | Jan 29 10:45 |
| techrigthssec | One can hope so. | Jan 29 10:49 |
| schestowitz-TR | regaridng python, rianne studied it | Jan 29 10:51 |
| schestowitz-TR | but atm her job interviews are not for technical jobs, it's town hall | Jan 29 10:51 |
| schestowitz-TR | til many disengage from tech and have no money left to spend | Jan 29 10:55 |
| schestowitz-TR | the "tech layoffs" are just a tiny little symptom of that | Jan 29 10:55 |
| schestowitz-TR | people are getting tired of it | Jan 29 10:55 |
| schestowitz-TR | it made them miserable | Jan 29 10:55 |
| schestowitz-TR | even 1000 "likes" won't pay your rent | Jan 29 10:55 |
| schestowitz-TR | politicians react to this way tooslowly or merely embraced it to "buy time" | Jan 29 10:55 |
| schestowitz-TR | though bailing out corrosive forces only perpetuates the harms | Jan 29 10:55 |
| *Noisytoot has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) | Jan 29 12:09 | |
| *Noisytoot (~noisytoot@tkbibjhmbkvb8.irc) has joined #boycottnovell | Jan 29 12:12 | |
| schestowitz-TR | as sanity check, not criticism: 2 other links today, one link in manual? | Jan 29 12:32 |
| techrigthssec | Probably. More next pass. | Jan 29 12:32 |
| techrigthssec | Hmm. Links-wise that was not such a productive interval. | Jan 29 12:32 |
| schestowitz-TR | that is good | Jan 29 12:35 |
| schestowitz-TR | as i cannot cope with a lot anway atm ^_^ | Jan 29 12:35 |
| *DaemonFC has quit (Quit: Leaving) | Jan 29 12:41 | |
| *u-amarsh04 has quit (Quit: Konversation terminated!) | Jan 29 13:19 | |
| *u-amarsh04 has quit (Quit: Konversation terminated!) | Jan 29 13:19 | |
| *u-amarsh04 (~amarsh04@freenode-rmogvn.g0d7.dtdf.mc4289.IP) has joined #boycottnovell | Jan 29 13:20 | |
| *u-amarsh04 (~amarsh04@fpfsqjchsbkme.irc) has joined #boycottnovell | Jan 29 13:20 | |
| schestowitz[TR] | >> I've just amended the text! Yes! Indeed! What's needed now is for other | Jan 29 13:49 |
| schestowitz[TR] | >> people to repeat these seemingly obvious arguments. | Jan 29 13:49 |
| schestowitz[TR] | > Great thanks for squeezing in a late addition close to deadline. | Jan 29 13:49 |
| schestowitz[TR] | > | Jan 29 13:49 |
| schestowitz[TR] | >> BTW, I found no typos while reading your article. None. Maybe I didn't read | Jan 29 13:49 |
| schestowitz[TR] | >> it slowly enough. | Jan 29 13:49 |
| schestowitz[TR] | > It's in good shape I think. Just this line doesn't seem to go | Jan 29 13:49 |
| schestowitz[TR] | > anywhere: | Jan 29 13:49 |
| schestowitz[TR] | > | Jan 29 13:49 |
| schestowitz[TR] | > "If we could side-step the whole messy, time consuming business of | Jan 29 13:49 |
| schestowitz[TR] | > eating and just take a pill or Soylent Green "Nutrition Bar". | Jan 29 13:49 |
| schestowitz[TR] | > | Jan 29 13:49 |
| schestowitz[TR] | > I would make it a rhetorical barb like: | Jan 29 13:49 |
| schestowitz[TR] | > | Jan 29 13:49 |
| schestowitz[TR] | > "If only we could side-step the whole messy, time consuming business | Jan 29 13:49 |
| schestowitz[TR] | > of eating and just take a pill or Soylent Green "Nutrition Bar", | Jan 29 13:49 |
| schestowitz[TR] | > right? | Jan 29 13:49 |
| schestowitz[TR] | > | Jan 29 13:49 |
| schestowitz[TR] | >> I think I'll do a video on this topic later, having rewritten some code on | Jan 29 13:49 |
| schestowitz[TR] | >> my new setup to process the files. | Jan 29 13:49 |
| schestowitz[TR] | > Amazing. Good you're able to bounce back technically so fast. | Jan 29 13:49 |
| schestowitz[TR] | > Techrights seems robust, but sounds like you maybe should invest in | Jan 29 13:49 |
| schestowitz[TR] | > offline resilience, maybe have a back-up server ready to spin up | Jan 29 13:49 |
| schestowitz[TR] | > etc. I realise these things are time consuming and expensive. | Jan 29 13:49 |
| schestowitz[TR] | > | Jan 29 13:49 |
| schestowitz[TR] | >> It has been a very hectic week for me, | Jan 29 13:49 |
| schestowitz[TR] | >> but I'll come back stronger. | Jan 29 13:49 |
| schestowitz[TR] | > Really sorry to hear of your loss and upheaval. Losing friends and | Jan 29 13:49 |
| schestowitz[TR] | > peers at our age can leave a mood hanging for months or years. I still | Jan 29 13:49 |
| schestowitz[TR] | > hardly got over losing our lead guitarist in my old band 10 years ago | Jan 29 13:49 |
| schestowitz[TR] | > (drugs and alcohol). That hit my creative energies hard. Still, the | Jan 29 13:49 |
| schestowitz[TR] | > show must go on. | Jan 29 13:49 |
| schestowitz[TR] | Yes, I try not to oerthink it and to keep busy. | Jan 29 13:49 |
| schestowitz[TR] | > Thanks for running this piece Roy, | Jan 29 13:49 |
| schestowitz[TR] | > | Jan 29 13:49 |
| schestowitz[TR] | > Please do send me a link to any video discussion etc. | Jan 29 13:49 |
| schestowitz[TR] | It'll be entitled The Hey Hype Machine | Jan 29 13:49 |
| schestowitz[TR] | Still processing/uploading the video, so did not hit publish yet. | Jan 29 13:49 |
| schestowitz[TR] | Reminder: my videos are not scripted or edited. | Jan 29 13:49 |
| *DaemonFC (~daemonfc@5bnyh3kjti54w.irc) has joined #boycottnovell | Jan 29 21:29 | |
| *psydroid2 has quit (connection closed) | Jan 29 22:12 | |
| schestowitz[TR] | <AdmFubar> you might want to consider this for the room to help weed out chatgpt bots... they are coming if they're not here already... https://ericmitchell.ai/detectgpt/ | Jan 29 22:41 |
| -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-ericmitchell.ai | DetectGPT | Jan 29 22:41 | |
| *DaemonFC has quit (Quit: Leaving) | Jan 29 23:39 | |
| *DaemonFC (~daemonfc@2jvzsqkwe3uha.irc) has joined #boycottnovell | Jan 29 23:42 | |
Generated by irclog2html.py 2.6 | ䷉ find the plain text version at this address (HTTP) or in Gemini (how to use Gemini) with a full GemText version.