●● IRC: #boycottnovell @ Techrights IRC Network: Wednesday, June 29, 2022 ●● ● Jun 29 [00:49] *psydruid (~psydruid@jevhxkzmtrbww.irc) has left #boycottnovell [00:49] *psydruid (~psydruid@jevhxkzmtrbww.irc) has joined #boycottnovell ● Jun 29 [01:22] *psydruid (~psydruid@jevhxkzmtrbww.irc) has left #boycottnovell [01:22] *psydruid (~psydruid@jevhxkzmtrbww.irc) has joined #boycottnovell [01:32] *DaemonFC (~daemonfc@m4vhwzwfnmxia.irc) has joined #boycottnovell [01:40] *DaemonFC has quit (connection closed) ● Jun 29 [02:58] *psydruid has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) ● Jun 29 [03:17] schestowitz-TR pushed to gitinor change to the template file of Links [03:17] schestowitz-TR *minor changes [03:22] *MinceR has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [03:38] *MinceR (~mincer@bringer.of.light) has joined #boycottnovell [03:38] *irc.techrights.org sets mode +a #boycottnovell MinceR ● Jun 29 [07:16] *psydruid (~psydruid@jevhxkzmtrbww.irc) has joined #boycottnovell ● Jun 29 [08:24] schestowitz-TR I heard that turkey gets a lot of the grain from ukraine or parts russia occupies already [08:24] Techrights-sec2 yes that is happening to AFAIK [08:24] Techrights-sec2 ^too [08:25] schestowitz-TR putin has two dolls inside nato and even eu (orban) [08:25] Techrights-sec2 by the way the template.html file has what appear to be redundant headings [08:25] Techrights-sec2 such as "programming" and "technical" [08:26] Techrights-sec2 there may be other redundant headings, I have not checked thoroughly [08:26] Techrights-sec2 it's just those that collide so far [08:26] Techrights-sec2 there may be other redundant headings, I have not checked thoroughly [08:26] Techrights-sec2 it's just those that collide so far [08:26] schestowitz-TR those are or gemini only [08:28] Techrights-sec2 ok, I guess those can be annotated so they don't get confuse with the http [08:28] Techrights-sec2 sections [08:42] Techrights-sec2 pushed to Git [08:43] schestowitz-TR THANKS, GOOD CALL [08:43] schestowitz-TR oops, caps [08:43] schestowitz-TR starting workout in a bit ● Jun 29 [09:09] *psydruid (~psydruid@jevhxkzmtrbww.irc) has left #boycottnovell [09:10] *psydruid (~psydruid@jevhxkzmtrbww.irc) has joined #boycottnovell [09:13] *psydruid (~psydruid@jevhxkzmtrbww.irc) has left #boycottnovell [09:14] *psydruid (~psydruid@jevhxkzmtrbww.irc) has joined #boycottnovell [09:18] *psydruid (~psydruid@jevhxkzmtrbww.irc) has left #boycottnovell [09:18] *psydruid (~psydruid@jevhxkzmtrbww.irc) has joined #boycottnovell [09:53] *psydruid (~psydruid@jevhxkzmtrbww.irc) has left #boycottnovell [09:53] *psydruid (~psydruid@jevhxkzmtrbww.irc) has joined #boycottnovell ● Jun 29 [10:04] Techrights-sec2 ack ● Jun 29 [11:01] schestowitz-TR Winter https://truthout.org/articles/experts-are-worried-about-the-potential-of-another-brutal-covid-winter/ | Source: TruthOut [11:01] -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-truthout.org | Experts Are Worried About the Potential of Another Brutal COVID Winter [11:15] Techrights-sec2 seeing as most countries have removed advisories against gathering [11:15] Techrights-sec2 and no longer suggest masking up etc ... [11:23] *DaemonFC (~daemonfc@hxejtvgdgxzes.irc) has joined #boycottnovell ● Jun 29 [13:14] *DaemonFC has quit (Quit: Leaving) [13:52] *psydruid (~psydruid@jevhxkzmtrbww.irc) has left #boycottnovell [13:52] *psydruid (~psydruid@jevhxkzmtrbww.irc) has joined #boycottnovell ● Jun 29 [14:01] *psydruid (~psydruid@jevhxkzmtrbww.irc) has left #boycottnovell [14:01] *psydruid (~psydruid@jevhxkzmtrbww.irc) has joined #boycottnovell [14:08] *psydruid (~psydruid@jevhxkzmtrbww.irc) has left #boycottnovell [14:08] *psydruid (~psydruid@jevhxkzmtrbww.irc) has joined #boycottnovell ● Jun 29 [16:18] schestowitz https://ideadrop.co/customer-success/steve-jobs-leadership-style-what-we-can-learn/ [16:18] -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-ideadrop.co | Steve Jobss Leadership Style and What We Can Learn From It [16:18] schestowitz I am trying, without success, to find the Jobs quotes on tytpe A, B, C... [16:19] schestowitz can you help? needed for next article [16:35] schestowitz-TR you can see the context in the draft (video processing) [16:35] schestowitz-TR I wanted to say something else but did not (and forgot by now) as you were afk [16:40] Techrights-sec2 ok [16:40] Techrights-sec2 https://apple.fandom.com/wiki/A-players [16:40] Techrights-sec2 https://tgsus.com/executive-search/recruit-a-players/ [16:40] Techrights-sec2 It was also in the biography, "Steve Jobs", by Waltere Isaacson [16:40] Techrights-sec2 but not in the index [16:40] -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-apple.fandom.com | A-players | Apple Wiki | Fandom [16:40] Techrights-sec2 indiect: https://www.goodreads.com/quotes/391717-steve-jobs-has-a-saying-that-a-players-hire-a [16:40] -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-tgsus.com | Steve Jobs and How to Recruit A-Players | The Good Search [16:40] Techrights-sec2 ^inditectly [16:40] -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-www.goodreads.com | Quote by Guy Kawasaki: Steve Jobs has a saying that A players hire A p... [16:40] Techrights-sec2 indirectly [16:42] schestowitz-TR thanks!! [16:42] schestowitz-TR not sure if that happens only to me [16:42] schestowitz-TR when I want to say something, decide it's not so important, then forget it [16:42] schestowitz-TR then want to remember what this unimportant thing is [16:42] schestowitz-TR happened to me twice today [16:42] schestowitz-TR I need to let those things go [16:42] schestowitz-TR (once when rianne was asleep) [16:42] Techrights-sec2 https://youtu.be/wTgQ2PBiz-g [16:42] Techrights-sec2 ack [16:42] -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@Invidious: https://invidious.osi.kr/watch?v=wTgQ2PBiz-g [16:42] -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell--> invidious.osi.kr | Steve Jobs - Building a team of A players - Invidious [16:45] Techrights-sec2 https://hbr.org/2012/04/the-real-leadership-lessons-of-steve-jobs [16:45] Techrights-sec2 ack [16:45] -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-hbr.org | The Real Leadership Lessons of Steve Jobs [16:45] schestowitz-TR I'll put alkl these refs in one place, it's about EPO... [16:46] schestowitz-TR Wil use suitable headline so you can find them all [16:58] Techrights-sec2 ok [16:58] Techrights-sec2 I can't remember which part of the book it was in so I won't wade through the [16:58] Techrights-sec2 whole thing just for the one quote though ● Jun 29 [17:02] schestowitz-TR maybe this new draft will help you centrealise your refs on this subject? [17:02] schestowitz-TR draftsx2 [17:02] Techrights-sec2 checking [17:02] Techrights-sec2 "paraphrasing the above in the video linked above ..." [17:03] schestowitz-TR I will add a few words/links [17:03] Techrights-sec2 what are dental bribes? [17:03] Techrights-sec2 thanks [17:05] schestowitz-TR I linked to that yesterday,m re dental [17:05] schestowitz-TR but should repeat [17:05] schestowitz-TR as otherwise people lack the way to find out what it's about [17:05] schestowitz-TR organised crime [17:05] schestowitz-TR they buy the voters [17:05] schestowitz-TR this was EXPECTED [17:05] schestowitz-TR as was the OUTCOME [17:05] Techrights-sec2 yes reminders are necessary [17:06] schestowitz-TR at least now I have some pages I can link to for explaining what happened to our C/D type company [17:06] schestowitz-TR that used to have some good people when I joined in 2011 [17:07] Techrights-sec2 there was also a lot of relevant links here about boeing's fall [17:07] Techrights-sec2 I'm not sure I can find them again but IIRC you did use them in some posts [17:07] Techrights-sec2 a year or two ago (or longer) [17:07] schestowitz-TR I think this analogy was used wrt EPO by other people too [17:07] schestowitz-TR but not sure [17:08] Techrights-sec2 that had something to do with the inevitable death spiral which is kicked off [17:08] Techrights-sec2 by outsourcing critical functions [17:08] Techrights-sec2 and, for that matter, some not-so-critical functions too [17:09] schestowitz-TR I will finalise the two posts and add to wiki [17:12] schestowitz-TR jobs was a jerk, but that does not mean he's always wrong or I cannot quote him :) [17:12] schestowitz-TR it's also put in simple terms that make sense to me [17:12] schestowitz-TR the staff union explains that a high-calibre examiner can do the word fast and well [17:12] schestowitz-TR some new grad who can barely operate the computer is worth maybe 10 times less than [17:12] schestowitz-TR the former type [17:12] schestowitz-TR they are a yoke on the colleagues [17:12] Techrights-sec2 ack [17:17] Techrights-sec2 yes, without peers, the A-players quickly find they need look for a more suitable work environment, that is especially true in today's society which has b [17:17] Techrights-sec2 een [17:17] Techrights-sec2 badly shaped by "reality" TV such that the D, E, and lower playes are trained [17:17] Techrights-sec2 to gang up on, impeded, and even tear down those with better skills [17:17] schestowitz-TR rianne and I work from him [17:17] schestowitz-TR *some [17:17] schestowitz-TR *home [17:17] schestowitz-TR so we already have some x-player peers [17:17] schestowitz-TR and I totally ignore th rest [17:17] schestowitz-TR I don't even read their handovers [17:17] schestowitz-TR rianne does [17:18] *psydruid (~psydruid@jevhxkzmtrbww.irc) has left #boycottnovell [17:18] *psydruid (~psydruid@jevhxkzmtrbww.irc) has joined #boycottnovell [17:20] Techrights-sec2 found it. don't lose it ;) [17:20] Techrights-sec2 https://berthub.eu/articles/posts/how-tech-loses-out/ [17:20] -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-berthub.eu | How Tech Loses Out over at Companies, Countries and Continents - Bert Hubert's writings [17:21] schestowitz-TR noadays the net time I spend on a shift is averging at maybe 30 mins [17:21] schestowitz-TR each time the company gets worse [17:21] schestowitz-TR this number goes down further [17:21] schestowitz-TR to where I can tolerate it [17:25] Techrights-sec2 https://web.archive.org/web/20111226053333/http://seattletimes.nwsource.com/ABPub/2011/02/04/2014130646.pdf [17:25] Techrights-sec2 very hard to find [17:25] Techrights-sec2 https://aerospaceengineeringblog.com/the-dangers-of-outsourcing/ [17:25] Techrights-sec2 "to where I can tolerate it" ... that is the warning about outsourcing [17:25] -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-aerospaceengineeringblog.com | The Dangers of Outsourcing Aerospace Engineering BlogAerospace Engineering Blog [17:26] schestowitz-TR very quick question: is there a point opening all these links, taking bits from them (text, screenshots etc) [17:26] schestowitz-TR and present that in relation to EPO? [17:26] schestowitz-TR I've not opened yet... [17:26] schestowitz-TR just adding 2 to wiki now [17:26] Techrights-sec2 the PDF, I would think [17:26] Techrights-sec2 if a case can be made about the danger with driving away talent [17:28] schestowitz-TR OK, I'm off work till tomorrow night and rianne has TM cover [17:28] schestowitz-TR I will open all these links now [17:28] schestowitz-TR and promote them to EPO sceptics [17:28] schestowitz-TR the timing is right because of today's protest and bad news [17:33] schestowitz-TR it helps to pool life lessons [17:33] schestowitz-TR like your take on EPO "financialisation" [17:33] schestowitz-TR as that struck a nerve [17:33] schestowitz-TR and can equip staff with ways to respond or explain the status quo [17:33] schestowitz-TR I am going to focus 100% now on the 3 links [17:33] schestowitz-TR no need to respond [17:33] schestowitz-TR it's raining dogs and cats out side now (good) [17:33] schestowitz-TR and I can be easily distracted [17:52] Techrights-sec2 yes good to have a copy, Recoll is a good indexer if you don't have one [17:52] Techrights-sec2 in use already [17:52] schestowitz-TR making local copy of the pdf [17:52] schestowitz-TR if it's gone, this might be fair use [17:52] schestowitz-TR ok, see draft [17:55] *psydruid (~psydruid@jevhxkzmtrbww.irc) has left #boycottnovell [17:57] Techrights-sec2 checking [17:57] Techrights-sec2 good summary [17:57] Techrights-sec2 the phrase "neither engineers nor talent" ought to be continued a few more [17:57] Techrights-sec2 words to remind about > 50% of people not accepting positions offered, [17:57] Techrights-sec2 it's there in the link, but needs to be there in the prose as well [17:59] *psydruid (~psydruid@jevhxkzmtrbww.irc) has joined #boycottnovell ● Jun 29 [18:05] schestowitz-TR tying this into jobs (steve( post.. [18:05] schestowitz-TR added whole para at the end [18:05] Techrights-sec2 checking [18:06] Techrights-sec2 at the risk of making it too long the lack of incoming talent makes life [18:06] Techrights-sec2 hard for those very skilled and talented people who have been onboard for many [18:06] Techrights-sec2 years and have not left yet [18:07] schestowitz-TR ah!! [18:07] schestowitz-TR good point [18:07] *psydruid (~psydruid@jevhxkzmtrbww.irc) has left #boycottnovell [18:07] *psydruid (~psydruid@jevhxkzmtrbww.irc) has joined #boycottnovell [18:17] schestowitz-TR finalising [18:17] schestowitz-TR we now have the pdf stored locally (those get hard to find a decade later) [18:17] schestowitz-TR it becomes a forensic job [18:17] schestowitz-TR epo keeping campinos [18:17] schestowitz-TR is like us keeping saringas [18:17] schestowitz-TR she was dumped too late [18:17] schestowitz-TR we lost 2 people who could maintain our infra [18:17] schestowitz-TR then came the outsourcing [18:17] schestowitz-TR the point of no return [18:17] schestowitz-TR a spiral [18:17] schestowitz-TR no infra people [18:17] schestowitz-TR no infra [18:17] schestowitz-TR no talent [18:17] schestowitz-TR fin [18:17] Techrights-sec2 ack [18:26] Techrights-sec2 ack [18:28] schestowitz-TR I don't know how to explain it, but let me try [18:28] schestowitz-TR paradoxically, when the company is weak, it's possibly OK to stay [18:28] Techrights-sec2 ack [18:28] schestowitz-TR provided they act weak [18:29] schestowitz-TR they are too terrified of losing remaining senior staff [18:29] schestowitz-TR so that staff can get away with talking down bosses [18:29] schestowitz-TR or acting rather lazy [18:29] schestowitz-TR I read about this in TheLayoff.com re IBM [18:30] schestowitz-TR rianne and I know the job *very* wellm [18:30] schestowitz-TR and as a pair, like a cokcpit, we are valuable [18:30] schestowitz-TR so basically treaining new people is almost impossiv [18:30] Techrights-sec2 ack [18:30] schestowitz-TR let alone attract someone foollish enough to join and then stay [18:30] schestowitz-TR some joined [18:30] schestowitz-TR and left quickly [18:30] schestowitz-TR they could not solve issues [18:32] schestowitz-TR sometimes if feels like we do them a favour by staying [18:32] schestowitz-TR and that reduces the stress greatly [18:32] schestowitz-TR when the CEO begs you not to get upset [18:32] schestowitz-TR or tries to defuse situations when you scoff at a lousy colleague [18:32] schestowitz-TR but... if one was to assess my "status" (salary etc.) or my "car" (bicycle) or [18:32] schestowitz-TR my dress code (BS; ask RMS/LT... or most tech geeks), if that someone is of [18:32] schestowitz-TR superficial mindset, then..... [18:33] Techrights-sec2 ack [18:36] schestowitz-TR I keep checking sources and mail etc. [18:36] schestowitz-TR no word from EPO yet [18:36] schestowitz-TR must be depressing for some [18:36] schestowitz-TR but we issued 4 posts since the news came [18:36] schestowitz-TR so at least they don't need to soak in the raving lies from epo.org [18:36] Techrights-sec2 with a complete change of leadership, to new ones with no social, political, or [18:36] Techrights-sec2 business ties to the old ones, then the EPO could turn around and thrive while [18:36] Techrights-sec2 becoming beneficial again [18:38] schestowitz-TR I thought about it last night [18:38] schestowitz-TR it is SUPER complicated [18:38] schestowitz-TR as the chain of complicity falls back onto the national delegations too [18:38] schestowitz-TR and you cannot fire ALL the management [18:38] Techrights-sec2 :/ [18:38] Techrights-sec2 ack [18:38] schestowitz-TR chaos/disarray [18:38] schestowitz-TR but it's necessary [18:38] schestowitz-TR they won't train "clean" people [18:38] schestowitz-TR or won't train them properly [18:39] schestowitz-TR so I think EPO cannot be slavaged [18:39] schestowitz-TR they are SUSTAINING.... the corruption [18:39] schestowitz-TR that's why Tony stays [18:39] schestowitz-TR I don't need to tell you this is very bad for the EU as well [18:39] schestowitz-TR (they won't admit this) [18:39] Techrights-sec2 true [18:41] schestowitz-TR a ffii senior once told me uk shiold leave epc, not eu [18:41] schestowitz-TR I often wonder if the epo tells media to ignore all of us becayse "anti-eu" or "anti-americanism'; [18:41] schestowitz-TR and other red herrings [18:41] schestowitz-TR it's possible [18:41] schestowitz-TR the "russian agent" BS was floating at one point [18:41] Techrights-sec2 Which EPC? The European Patent Convention or the sham called the [18:41] Techrights-sec2 European Patent Court [18:41] Techrights-sec2 ? [18:42] schestowitz-TR EPC, UK can exit that [18:42] schestowitz-TR so can norway and CH [18:42] schestowitz-TR let them keep turkey... north macedonia... and have fun with their shitty little experiment [18:43] *psydruid (~psydruid@jevhxkzmtrbww.irc) has left #boycottnovell [18:43] *psydruid (~psydruid@jevhxkzmtrbww.irc) has joined #boycottnovell [18:43] *psydroid2 (~psydroid@memzbmehf99re.irc) has joined #boycottnovell [18:46] *psydruid (~psydruid@jevhxkzmtrbww.irc) has left #boycottnovell [18:50] *psydruid (~psydruid@jevhxkzmtrbww.irc) has joined #boycottnovell [18:57] schestowitz-TR We Need Less Harvard https://www.thenation.com/article/society/ivy-league-enrollment-expansion/ | Source: The Nation [18:57] -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-www.thenation.com | We Need Less Harvard, Not More | The Nation ● Jun 29 [19:01] Techrights-sec2 ack [19:01] Techrights-sec2 elite or not, there are few to no places which still teach actual computer [19:01] Techrights-sec2 science; most have been replaced by microsoftianism; of the places with provide [19:01] Techrights-sec2 training (as opposed to education), those are even worse off [19:02] schestowitz-TR playing devil's advocate here [19:02] schestowitz-TR many CS schools and polytechnics likely [19:02] schestowitz-TR push [19:03] schestowitz-TR 1) clown [19:03] schestowitz-TR 2) web (means JS) [19:03] schestowitz-TR 3) apps [19:03] schestowitz-TR but no foundations like bubble search or assembly or networking [19:03] schestowitz-TR microsoft is nasty, but it was more powerful 20 years ago [19:03] schestowitz-TR and now it contends with "chromebooks" [19:03] Techrights-sec2 yes instead of theory and instead of learning-friendly systems : [19:03] Techrights-sec2 https://www.gnu.org/education/edu-schools.en.html [19:03] Techrights-sec2 they avoid theory and work towards "training" in proprietary [19:03] Techrights-sec2 clown, js, and m$ [19:03] Techrights-sec2 I'm not sure that competing with chromebooks is to the advantage of students; [19:03] -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-www.gnu.org | Why Schools Should Exclusively Use Free Software - GNU Project - Free Software Foundation [19:03] Techrights-sec2 those are in practice very proprietary [19:05] schestowitz-TR this is wh y they have "mass appeal" [19:05] schestowitz-TR a) with state media [19:05] schestowitz-TR b) corporate media [19:05] schestowitz-TR c) states [19:06] schestowitz-TR and you see them promotes as the "true" alternative [19:06] schestowitz-TR with all the spyware and back doors and whatever comes with the next forced update [19:06] schestowitz-TR likely always-on microphone ("assistants" and "smart") [19:06] schestowitz-TR I quit covering android when Android O came out and they were making listening devices [19:06] schestowitz-TR very prevlent [19:06] schestowitz-TR out of the box, hard to dodge [19:06] Techrights-sec2 yep [19:06] Techrights-sec2 in the new models even the hardware is locked down :( [19:06] Techrights-sec2 the old models had at least some replacable parts, includignthe SSD [19:06] Techrights-sec2 old: [19:06] Techrights-sec2 https://www.fsf.org/news/gnu-project-renews-focus-on-free-software-in-education [19:06] Techrights-sec2 android is also a locked-in abuse of Linux [19:06] -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-www.fsf.org | GNU Project renews focus on free software in education Free Software Foundation Working together for free software [19:06] Techrights-sec2 not surprisingly by the same company as the Chromebooks [19:09] schestowitz-TR military contractors (maven) [19:09] schestowitz-TR you give, you get [19:09] schestowitz-TR can't wait for that economy to go under [19:09] schestowitz-TR but russia, china, and eu are not moving in a better direction [19:09] schestowitz-TR so we need to decentralise [19:09] schestowitz-TR and people should roll out their own with images retrieved online [19:09] schestowitz-TR marius and I try to promote the indie distros more [19:09] schestowitz-TR fedora crap gets shelved under laftovers [19:09] schestowitz-TR they can go f* themselves [19:09] schestowitz-TR (ICBM) [19:09] Techrights-sec2 ack [19:09] Techrights-sec2 IBM controls Fedora and doesn't even give it an illusion of independence [19:09] Techrights-sec2 it's just there as a testbed for RHEL [19:09] Techrights-sec2 with what's left of a community to operate as unpaid beta testers [19:11] schestowitz-TR Red Hat was accused of the same, but it gave some freedom to employees (not 1005 of the time), it let centros live on OK, [19:11] schestowitz-TR it provides resources, and it didn't have that perception of attacking the community, volunteers etc. [19:12] schestowitz-TR Allowhurst left months after the centos 'dick move' [19:12] schestowitz-TR I wanted to make a few more points about how Red Hat shot down allegations of Fedora being just a sandbox [19:12] schestowitz-TR but it doesn't matter [19:12] schestowitz-TR we're just informally chatting [19:12] schestowitz-TR ICBM lost the most valuable thing RHT had: goodwill [19:12] Techrights-sec2 yes it was strange that they went out of their way to burn that goodwill [19:14] schestowitz-TR they are still good buddies with MSFT [19:14] schestowitz-TR and I never saw them saying anything that might upset the Billness [19:14] schestowitz-TR which is odd considering how they fought around 2006-08 over ODF [19:14] schestowitz-TR that sort of "restraint" can be partly explained by tracing back the many managers in "Red Hat" to former job at Microsoft [19:14] schestowitz-TR they can "shot down" the "haters" and "extremists" [19:14] schestowitz-TR I meant SHOUT DOWN [19:15] Techrights-sec2 I never will understand their thought process, theirs or any other company, [19:15] Techrights-sec2 when they drop their guard against M$ and, even more bizarrely, bring microsofters into the perimiter [19:15] Techrights-sec2 yes IBM was still on the right side of things for the most part up until the [19:15] Techrights-sec2 end of the ODF process [19:15] Techrights-sec2 and the microsoft scandals surrounding ECMA 376 [19:24] schestowitz-TR msfters in redhat = more of the "linux is OK for server" mindset [19:24] Techrights-sec2 among other mistakes, they try everything they can to keep attention off of [19:24] Techrights-sec2 the desktop [19:25] schestowitz-TR canonical is the same [19:25] schestowitz-TR haha [19:25] schestowitz-TR we started typing canonical at the same time [19:25] Techrights-sec2 Canonica did that too after gaining a terminal stage microsoft infection among [19:25] Techrights-sec2 their staff. RPF is in the early stages, but it, too, will be terminal [19:27] schestowitz-TR the "extremists" will resign or have resigned in disgust [19:27] schestowitz-TR microsoft: we Drive C [19:27] schestowitz-TR raspi: the ABCD for schools [19:27] schestowitz-TR they wrote a blog post on edu eysterday [19:27] schestowitz-TR microsoft: C types [19:27] schestowitz-TR Mono: D types [19:28] Techrights-sec2 or be driven out [19:28] Techrights-sec2 remember that microsofters aren't evaluated on work or results [19:28] Techrights-sec2 unlike everyone else [19:28] Techrights-sec2 :/ [19:28] Techrights-sec2 s/on/against/ [19:28] Techrights-sec2 :( [19:28] Techrights-sec2 at best [19:35] *psydroid2 has quit (connection closed) [19:38] *psydroid2 (~psydroid@memzbmehf99re.irc) has joined #boycottnovell ● Jun 29 [21:19] *DaemonFC (~daemonfc@9zre2dcq6f48a.irc) has joined #boycottnovell ● Jun 29 [22:00] *psydroid2 has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) ● Jun 29 [23:12] *psydruid (~psydruid@jevhxkzmtrbww.irc) has left #boycottnovell [23:13] *psydruid (~psydruid@jevhxkzmtrbww.irc) has joined #boycottnovell [23:18] *psydruid (~psydruid@jevhxkzmtrbww.irc) has left #boycottnovell [23:18] *psydruid (~psydruid@jevhxkzmtrbww.irc) has joined #boycottnovell