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schestowitz-TRgm Sep 29 07:45
schestowitz-TRcatching upSep 29 07:45
schestowitz-TRbrbSep 29 07:45
Techrights-secgmSep 29 07:45
schestowitz-TRthe ipfs in today's irc post is missing, i hope not due to a technical issue not detected at my endSep 29 08:15
schestowitz-TRI'll check to be sure...Sep 29 08:15
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Techrights-secit's more likely that the script here does not fail properly if the files Sep 29 09:19
Techrights-secare not yet available when the script is run too soionSep 29 09:19
Techrights-sec^soonSep 29 09:19
schestowitz-TRat around 3am my time the files become ready, or maybe by 4am for sureSep 29 09:20
schestowitz-TRi can change the schedules, there is a chain of events, starting 2:30amSep 29 09:20
Techrights-secThat is probably it then.Sep 29 09:21
schestowitz-TRabout 98% of the time the pipeline works ok without need for interventionSep 29 09:25
schestowitz-TRi have a set of sanity checks that I do after 4:05amSep 29 09:25
schestowitz-TRbtw, kiwi irc ha been having issues since sundaySep 29 09:25
schestowitz-TRit seems to be not limited to any site or domain in particularSep 29 09:25
schestowitz-TRwe could add a self-hosted web proxy for ircSep 29 09:25
schestowitz-TRthere are several options if you fancy a little "sys OP" [sic] challengeSep 29 09:25
schestowitz-TRthew quakenet one is less JS-intensive\Sep 29 09:25
schestowitz-TRone longstanding issue with kiwi is not the js per seSep 29 09:25
schestowitz-TRbut clownflare being in front of the siteSep 29 09:25
schestowitz-TRwhich means TR reveals visitors to clownflareSep 29 09:25
Techrights-secThe MitM by Cloudflare should be mentioned specifically on that page then.Sep 29 09:28
schestowitz-TRyou would be shocked if you saw how much of uk publiuc sector was outsourced to thisa mitmSep 29 09:30
schestowitz-TRso as a taxpayer to get some service they subject you to AMERCIAN sitesSep 29 09:30
schestowitz-TRand the back end is also aws a lot of the timeSep 29 09:30
schestowitz-TRit's like we're a bana natio Sep 29 09:30
schestowitz-TR*nbananaSep 29 09:30
schestowitz-TRthe liz trump fruit companySep 29 09:30
Techrights-sechttps://pluralistic.net/2022/09/28/other-peoples-computers/#clouded-overSep 29 09:34
Techrights-secpaywall: https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2022-09-27/software-makers-restrictive-license-rules-targeted-by-new-groupSep 29 09:34
Techrights-secYouTube: two 30-second, non-skippable ads every 2 minutes or less :(Sep 29 09:34
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-pluralistic.net | Pluralistic: 28 Sep 2022 Maintaining monopolies with the cloud – Pluralistic: Daily links from Cory DoctorowSep 29 09:34
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-Bloomberg - Are you a robot?Sep 29 09:34
schestowitz-TRalpine can be very challenging for big packages with many deps, but we can have a go at making Sep 29 09:36
schestowitz-TRircgateway.techrights.org or similarSep 29 09:36
schestowitz-TRport 80Sep 29 09:36
schestowitz-TRthose loss leader [sic] clown computing BS is, to me, more of a military initativeSep 29 09:36
schestowitz-TRthan anything of substantial valueSep 29 09:36
schestowitz-TRand we need to get others to recognise this and say thisSep 29 09:36
schestowitz-TRthere's NO FREE HOSTING!Sep 29 09:36
schestowitz-TRNo such thingSep 29 09:36
schestowitz-TRYoutube: we show two ads you cannot skip... with some CRAP or "FODDER" after themSep 29 09:36
schestowitz-TRClownflare: we're still not sure how to make monetSep 29 09:36
schestowitz-TRspotify/netflix: we collected a lot of dataSep 29 09:36
schestowitz-TRmicrosoft: hololens anyway? yes, we fired all the staff, but we need income, please~!Sep 29 09:36
schestowitz-TRyoutube is worse because it purges and culls anything that does not please its political mastersSep 29 09:36
schestowitz-TRas per irc logs from last night:Sep 29 09:36
schestowitz-TRrt and sputnik are not 'blocked' by my ISPSep 29 09:36
schestowitz-TRwe're a very liberal nation, y'know..Sep 29 09:36
schestowitz-TRthey started this BS by saying we need pr0n filters to "protect the kids"Sep 29 09:36
schestowitz-TRnot they "protect" adultsSep 29 09:36
schestowitz-TR*nowSep 29 09:37
schestowitz-TRit'lle scalare further, in due course..Sep 29 09:37
schestowitz-TRdepending how much PowersThatBe(TM) can 'generously' tolerate opposing views (or videos, since I made a typo)Sep 29 09:37
schestowitzhttps://webchat.quakenet.org/Sep 29 09:38
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-webchat.quakenet.org | QuakeNet Web IRC (qwebirc)Sep 29 09:38
schestowitzhttps://development.quakenet.org/Sep 29 09:39
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-development.quakenet.org | QuakeNet Development TeamSep 29 09:39
Techrights-secCory's post is quite relevant for this thread.Sep 29 09:39
schestowitz-TRmaybe CohnPAC (EFF) will even allow him to post these views to a large audicience in eff.orgSep 29 09:40
schestowitz-TRor maybe notSep 29 09:40
schestowitz-TR"Over the past 15 years, the United States has lost more than half the newspaper reporters covering state and local beats" ☛ https://www.commondreams.org/views/2022/09/28/policies-center-community-voices-are-key-solving-local-news-crisis | Source: Common DreamsSep 29 09:42
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-www.commondreams.org | Opinion | Policies That Center Community Voices Are Key to Solving the Local-News Crisis | Amy KroinSep 29 09:42
Techrights-secSignificantly more than half are gone.Sep 29 09:47
schestowitz-TRi suppose it dpeends what gets countedSep 29 09:48
schestowitz-TRe.g. "is the domain name still online?"Sep 29 09:48
Techrights-secIf you count the number of people employed in the branch, it's way more thanSep 29 09:59
Techrights-sechalf gone.  We had some articles on that in the last 18 monthsSep 29 09:59
Techrights-sec?? https://www.fairsoftwarelicensing.com/Sep 29 09:59
Techrights-secWorth a closer look.  Sep 29 09:59
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-www.fairsoftwarelicensing.com | Home Page - Coalition For Fair Software LicensingSep 29 09:59
schestowitz-TRi've looked aroundSep 29 10:02
schestowitz-TRno idea who they REALLY areSep 29 10:02
schestowitz-TRcould be phonies like ACTSep 29 10:02
schestowitz-TRwhere did you find the URL?Sep 29 10:02
Techrights-secIndirectly via the above links.  That's why they're worth looking at, to seeSep 29 10:03
Techrights-secif they are legitimate or not;  Either way action is needed to support or    Sep 29 10:03
Techrights-secto fight.Sep 29 10:03
schestowitz-TRit's very difficult to knowSep 29 10:08
schestowitz-TRthey don't give it away upfrontSep 29 10:08
schestowitz-TRthis weekend I meet my friend who lost almost all his money (and home) to "investors"Sep 29 10:08
schestowitz-TRand linus is adopting pile of shit recomended by microsoft azure ctoSep 29 10:08
schestowitz-TRbecause "security".... f*ing sjvn plays into it too Sep 29 10:08
schestowitz-TRciting microsoft as authority on securitySep 29 10:08
schestowitz-TRto me: warning signs are "fair"Sep 29 10:08
schestowitz-TRthe word is used a lot by microsoft lobbyistsSep 29 10:08
schestowitz-TRlike FRANDSep 29 10:08
schestowitz-TRit's a meaningless wordSep 29 10:08
schestowitz-TRno legal bearingfSep 29 10:08
schestowitz-TRthe BSA too wars a "fair" shareSep 29 10:08
schestowitz-TRas you yourself like to say,Sep 29 10:08
schestowitz-TRthe new currency is debtSep 29 10:08
schestowitz-TRsoi the surplus is not profit per seSep 29 10:08
schestowitz-TRbut derived by graft or similarSep 29 10:08
schestowitz-TRdebt issueSep 29 10:08
schestowitz-TRthen a bunch of vultures fight over whose bank account gets the minted 'coins'Sep 29 10:08
schestowitz-TRlawyer: the law need not be on our side, we can just endure the longest financially Sep 29 10:08
schestowitz-TRmicrosoft: we don't need to have good products, we can just lose money until our rivals cannot operate anymoreSep 29 10:08
schestowitz-TR(backup plan: bailout biden will give us "stimulus" for "defence")Sep 29 10:08
Techrights-sechttps://www.fairsoftwarelicensing.com/about-the-coalition/Sep 29 10:11
Techrights-secThey unfortunately use the misleading phrase "intellectual property" Sep 29 10:11
Techrights-sechttps://www.fairsoftwarelicensing.com/wp-content/uploads/2022/09/Principles-of-Fair-Software-Licensing-1.pdfSep 29 10:11
Techrights-secOnly points 2 and 3 seem relevant to software freedom.Sep 29 10:11
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-www.fairsoftwarelicensing.com | About The Coalition - Coalition For Fair Software LicensingSep 29 10:11
Techrights-secIt's run by a lawyerSep 29 10:11
Techrights-secackSep 29 10:11
schestowitz-TRi never heard of them beforeSep 29 10:12
schestowitz-TRthey could be part turncoats like IP2innovative, peer2patent, and unifiedpatentsSep 29 10:12
schestowitz-TRone moment they support reform, then they take microsoft money and oibstruct opponents of swpats and UPCSep 29 10:12
schestowitz-TRor gas light themSep 29 10:12
schestowitz-TR"they're too radical anyway" (they don't take bribes form hostile firms)Sep 29 10:12
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schestowitz-TRtopic aborted: patent and copyrioght trollSep 29 10:19
schestowitz-TRi will tell you when there is something more newsworthySep 29 10:19
schestowitz-TRapropos, did you take a look at the irc gateway s/w?Sep 29 10:19
schestowitz-TRmaybe it's a good opportunity to zap that clownflare thingSep 29 10:19
schestowitz-TRtechuser/some haxor complained about itSep 29 10:19
schestowitz-TRat 17 he already knew LE and clownflare are badSep 29 10:19
schestowitzhttps://qwebirc.org/installationSep 29 10:19
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-qwebirc.org | Installation - the qwebirc projectSep 29 10:19
schestowitz-TRpython, openjdk...Sep 29 10:22
schestowitz-TRkiwiirc is a lot of nodejs and vue.js etc.Sep 29 10:22
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Techrights-secI have not looked at the IRC gateway stuffSep 29 10:48
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schestowitz-TR<techrights-news> SFC hypocrites. We take Microsoft money, then tell you to "Give Up GitHub" (self-promotion for SFC). We moan that LF doesn't allow community in Board (to start a self-fund-raising campaign), now we outsource key parts GNU to LF. SFC: self-serving liars with PR skills?Sep 29 13:25
Techrights-secackSep 29 13:49
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schestowitz-TR<techrights-news> Torvalds in this photo. Zero girls. https://lwn.net/Articles/908323/Sep 29 14:40
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-2022 Kernel Maintainers Summit group photo [LWN.net]Sep 29 14:40
schestowitz-TRi see LF is making huge progress lecturing us on "diversty and inclusion"Sep 29 14:40
schestowitz-TRi thought about doing a meme that shows fossforce before and after LF $Sep 29 14:42
schestowitz-TRbut I don't want to hurt themSep 29 14:42
Techrights-secackSep 29 14:43
Techrights-secprobably not a useful idea to irritate without a positive direction to pushSep 29 14:43
schestowitz-TRcan you find an LF page boasting about diversity?Sep 29 14:51
schestowitz-TRlike, how they have lots of girls? Sep 29 14:51
schestowitz-TRbecause of coc/zemlin/corporations etc.Sep 29 14:51
schestowitz-TRlike you said, the LF bribes FOSS blogs angle is mostly hurful to those blogsSep 29 14:51
schestowitz-TR(remember IBM/Red Hat and LF keep weaponising this against communitiesSep 29 14:55
schestowitz-TRall those salaried coders are not female)Sep 29 14:55
Techrights-seccheckingfSep 29 14:56
Techrights-sechttps://www.linuxfoundation.org/press/press-release/linux-foundation-europe-launchesSep 29 14:56
Techrights-sec?Sep 29 14:56
Techrights-secYes and many (most) don't understand the weaponization, especially of the CoCSep 29 14:56
Techrights-secIt's "mean" to criticize a /corporation/ for illegal, unethical, and anti-    Sep 29 14:56
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-www.linuxfoundation.org | Linux Foundation Europe Launches to Foster European Open Source Collaboration and InnovationSep 29 14:56
Techrights-seccompetitive behavior especially if it hurts the kernel and the FOSS world in Sep 29 14:56
Techrights-secgeneralSep 29 14:56
Techrights-sechttps://www.linuxfoundation.org/research/the-2021-linux-foundation-report-on-diversity-equity-and-inclusion-in-open-sourceSep 29 15:03
Techrights-sechttps://www.linuxfoundation.org/about/diversity-inclusivitySep 29 15:03
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell- ( status 503 @ https://www.linuxfoundation.org/research/the-2021-linux-foundation-report-on-diversity-equity-and-inclusion-in-open-source )Sep 29 15:03
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-www.linuxfoundation.org | Diversity & Inclusivity | Linux FoundationSep 29 15:03
Techrights-sechttps://www.zdnet.com/article/linux-foundation-starts-open-source-diversity-equity-and-inclusion-survey/Sep 29 15:06
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-Linux Foundation starts open-source diversity, equity, and inclusion survey | ZDNETSep 29 15:06
Techrights-sechttps://nitter.it/linuxfoundation/status/1532053871635447809Sep 29 15:10
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-The Linux Foundation (@linuxfoundation): "Open source is all about #inclusivity, #diversity, #freedom, #equality, and #love. The Linux Foundation is proud to support the LGBTQI+ community around the world – this month and always! #Pride #PrideMonth2022"|nitter.itSep 29 15:10
schestowitz-TRok, that last one is more sensitive and also does not pertain to a visible attributeSep 29 15:11
schestowitz-TRI've started putting together a draft, but not much yetSep 29 15:11
schestowitz-TRI will record some videos laterSep 29 15:11
Techrights-secackSep 29 15:13
schestowitz-TRadding refs to keep it concise and to the pointSep 29 15:14
Techrights-sechttps://blogs.vmware.com/opensource/2022/02/15/diversity-and-inclusion-two-success-factors-for-open-source/Sep 29 15:23
Techrights-sechttps://www.techrepublic.com/article/the-linux-foundation-launches-free-online-inclusivity-training/Sep 29 15:23
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-blogs.vmware.com | Diversity and Inclusion: Two Success Factors for Open SourceSep 29 15:23
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-The Linux Foundation launches free online inclusivity training | TechRepublicSep 29 15:23
schestowitz-TRtechrepublic+zdnet=two LF-FUNDED propaganda ragsSep 29 15:24
schestowitz-TRthis tells you a lot about the state of churnalismSep 29 15:24
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Techrights-secYep.  Paid for in full.Sep 29 15:38
schestowitz-TRVERY crude first drfatSep 29 15:40
schestowitz-TRdid not even previewSep 29 15:40
schestowitz-TRrianne saw the photo tooSep 29 15:40
schestowitz-TRsna noticedSep 29 15:40
schestowitz-TR*andSep 29 15:40
schestowitz-TRjust this past minuteSep 29 15:40
schestowitz-TRshe lef the houseSep 29 15:40
schestowitz-TRi'll record 3 videos soonSep 29 15:40
Techrights-seccheckingSep 29 15:44
Techrights-secM$ has worked hard to earn and stay the object of any hate it receives       Sep 29 15:44
schestowitz-TRmade editsSep 29 15:45
schestowitz-TRwill polish it nowSep 29 15:45
schestowitz-TRwill record in a bitSep 29 15:45
schestowitz-TRrianne pointed out torvalds has white hair and greg is very tallSep 29 15:49
schestowitz-TRI will check 4pm nhs figures when this one is doneSep 29 15:49
schestowitz-TRthan recordSep 29 15:49
schestowitz-TRcovid numbers are rising, data out in 10 minsSep 29 15:49
Techrights-sec     Sep 29 15:49
Techrights-secackSep 29 15:49
Techrights-secGKH is quite tall, but LT might have shrunken a little too along withSep 29 15:49
Techrights-sechis sudden onset, premature aging.Sep 29 15:49
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schestowitz-TRproofreadingSep 29 16:14
schestowitz-TRcan you suggest how to cover this in video uniquelySep 29 16:14
schestowitz-TRe.g. pointing how how LF does NOTHING about 'secure core' blocking Linux?Sep 29 16:14
schestowitz-TRthe funny thing is, as much as they smear usSep 29 16:14
schestowitz-TRwe're one of the most diverse out there in FOSSSep 29 16:14
schestowitz-TRIN SPITE of the smearsSep 29 16:14
schestowitz-TRtoday's epo video/article will cover diversity toowow!!!!Sep 29 16:14
schestowitz-TR42% increase in cases in just one weekSep 29 16:14
schestowitz-TRI was expecting further growth after last week'sSep 29 16:14
schestowitz-TRbut not that fast a growthSep 29 16:14
schestowitz-TRwith white hair  , a robe, and therapists, maybe soon LF will just stuff the man into a mental asylumSep 29 16:27
Techrights-secve shrunken a little too along withSep 29 16:27
Techrights-sechis sudden onset, premature aging.Sep 29 16:27
Techrights-secnot sureSep 29 16:27
Techrights-secre: m$ "hate" : it's called learning from experience :/Sep 29 16:27
Techrights-secLike in Soviet timesSep 29 16:27
schestowitz-TRCOVID-19 Pandemic Isn't Over (Claiming That It is Only Worsens Things) https://schestowitz.com/Weblog/archives/2022/09/29/autumn-surge/BBBSep 29 16:30
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell- ( status 404 @ https://schestowitz.com/Weblog/archives/2022/09/29/autumn-surge/BBB )Sep 29 16:30
schestowitz-TROTASep 29 16:30
Techrights-secThe LF's CoC should be much shorted and consist of "is the code good?"Sep 29 16:31
schestowitz-TRif it's rust, then it is magically both good and secureSep 29 16:31
schestowitz-TROTASep 29 16:31
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schestowitz-TRdone 3 videos, working on text nowSep 29 18:13
schestowitz-TRthe first one is the hardestSep 29 18:13
schestowitz-TRnot the typos aspectSep 29 18:13
schestowitz-TRbut ensuring i don't say anything provably falseSep 29 18:13
schestowitz-TRwriting is very slowlySep 29 18:13
schestowitz-TRdraftSep 29 18:13
Techrights-secackSep 29 18:23
Techrights-seccheckingSep 29 18:23
Techrights-sec"seduced" is the wrong word, at least with that phrasingSep 29 18:23
Techrights-sec"these corporates then seduce and take over the entire thing"Sep 29 18:23
Techrights-sec^corporationsSep 29 18:23
Techrights-secousted ... and brought back in a lower positionSep 29 18:23
Techrights-sec"comments, but almost ..." -> "comments, and almost ..."Sep 29 18:23
schestowitz-TRdraftSep 29 18:26
schestowitz-TRthanks, head hurts, need a nap, back laterSep 29 18:26
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