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[08:15] *u-amarsh04 has quit (Quit: Konversation terminated!) [08:18] *u-amarsh04 (~amarsh04@freenode-rmogvn.g0d7.dtdf.mc4289.IP) has joined #boycottnovell [08:18] *u-amarsh04 (~amarsh04@s9xek7hahrdji.irc) has joined #boycottnovell [08:35] *u-amarsh04 has quit (Quit: Konversation terminated!) [08:35] *u-amarsh04 has quit (Quit: Konversation terminated!) [08:40] *u-amarsh04 (~amarsh04@s9xek7hahrdji.irc) has joined #boycottnovell [08:40] *u-amarsh04 (~amarsh04@freenode-rmogvn.g0d7.dtdf.mc4289.IP) has joined #boycottnovell ● Oct 29 [09:02] schestowitz-TR2 The EFF Has Been Subsumed by Microsoft | Techrights http://techrights.org/2022/10/29/eff-and-microsoft/ | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2022/10/29/eff-and-microsoft/ [09:02] -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-techrights.org | The EFF Has Been Subsumed by Microsoft | Techrights [09:23] libertybox gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2022/10/29/eff-and-microsoft/ [09:23] libertybox url not found [09:23] libertybox I suppose it was something to do with the coup after Barlow died. I would [09:23] libertybox guess that they were preparing an attack against him and the others already [09:23] libertybox when he died nd his death only saved them the trouble of fighting him. [09:23] libertybox I have to say that some of the "staff" there showed their hand years ago [09:23] libertybox by parroting m$ talking points. [09:36] schestowitz-TR2 th upside is, we recognise what's happening [09:36] libertybox yes [09:57] schestowitz-TR2 we know who did it [09:57] schestowitz-TR2 on what basis [09:57] schestowitz-TR2 and who with [09:57] schestowitz-TR2 based on some irc gossip [09:57] schestowitz-TR2 what orgs are not compromises or disbanded? [09:57] schestowitz-TR2 ccia/patentprogress were quiet for like 4 months until last week [09:57] schestowitz-TR2 i spoke to ffii this morning [09:57] schestowitz-TR2 no press releases from them in ages ● Oct 29 [10:02] schestowitz-TR2 rianne says eff was likely bribed [10:02] schestowitz-TR2 i think microsoft offered them "free" [10:02] schestowitz-TR2 for promotion, control, spying [10:02] schestowitz-TR2 either way, someone signed somme paperwork [10:02] schestowitz-TR2 and now eff is infrsstructiorally cointrolled by criminals [10:02] schestowitz-TR2 let that sink in :/ [10:21] libertybox I'm hard pressed to think of an organization which is both still active and [10:21] libertybox uncompromised. Part of the process of corruption might also be a noticeable [10:21] libertybox reduction in activity. EFF, FFII, "FSFE", FSF, LF, OSI, Document Foundation, [10:21] libertybox If the conditions laid out in the license are anything to go by, the main [10:21] libertybox opponent to the EFF now has full read (and write) access to all their data [10:21] libertybox including planning discussions and meeting protocols and minutes. [10:21] libertybox and legal documnents. [10:28] *libertybox is now known as techrights-sec3 [10:39] schestowitz-TR2 eff fought some casea against the us gov, e.g. nsa [10:39] schestowitz-TR2 microsoft gives them direct access [10:42] schestowitz-TR2 like watching an ngo in communist china [10:42] schestowitz-TR2 last night we saw a mall with a ton of walled off shops [10:42] schestowitz-TR2 but it was an interesting experience [10:42] schestowitz-TR2 we left too easy so got caught in a crown before getting off board prematurely to avoid that [10:42] schestowitz-TR2 today this should not happen [10:42] schestowitz-TR2 *left too early so got caught in a crowd [10:42] schestowitz-TR2 6pm is still too busy [10:49] schestowitz-TR2 we diud hear some coughing [10:49] schestowitz-TR2 it's 17 degrees here [10:49] schestowitz-TR2 I peeled off one of the 3 masks later in the journey after the worst of the crowding [10:49] schestowitz-TR2 it was just window shopping except for the food (quater price) [10:49] schestowitz-TR2 *quarter ● Oct 29 [11:06] *DaemonFC (~daemonfc@9sr2p6v4n9fe4.irc) has joined #boycottnovell [11:44] techrights-sec3 otr: https://www.folkhalsomyndigheten.se/smittskydd-beredskap/utbrott/aktuella-utbrott/covid-19/statistik-och-ana [11:44] techrights-sec3 lyser/bekraftade-fall-i-sverige/ [11:44] -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell- ( status 404 @ https://www.folkhalsomyndigheten.se/smittskydd-beredskap/utbrott/aktuella-utbrott/covid-19/statistik-och-ana ) [11:45] schestowitz-TR2 pandemic is "old news" like climate change [11:45] schestowitz-TR2 we also "got tired" of brexit [11:54] *psydruid (~psydruid@jevhxkzmtrbww.irc) has joined #boycottnovell ● Oct 29 [12:10] schestowitz-TR2 I reckon next step is ONS no longer releasing weekly figures about deaths [12:10] schestowitz-TR2 because that "discredits" the state [12:14] techrights-sec3 otr: likely [12:17] *DaemonFC has quit (Quit: Leaving) [12:41] *parsifal (~parsifal@8vte7vm6885eu.irc) has joined #boycottnovell ● Oct 29 [14:45] *XFaCE has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [14:46] *MinceR has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [14:46] *parsifal_ (~parsifal@8vte7vm6885eu.irc) has joined #boycottnovell [14:46] *MinceR (~mincer@bringer.of.light) has joined #boycottnovell [14:46] *irc.techrights.org sets mode +a #boycottnovell MinceR [14:46] *parsifal has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [14:46] *wallacer has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [14:46] *roy_techrights has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [14:46] *wallacer (~quassel@6bsu33ajs4zs4.irc) has joined #boycottnovell [14:47] *schestowitz[TR2] has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [14:47] *rianne_ has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [14:47] *rianne has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [14:47] *Techrights-sec has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [14:47] *Techrights-sec (~quassel@pq3xyyer8mdca.irc) has joined #boycottnovell [14:47] *techrights-sec3 has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [14:47] *roy_techrights (~schestowitz_log@pq3xyyer8mdca.irc) has joined #boycottnovell [14:47] *rianne_ (~rianne@pq3xyyer8mdca.irc) has joined #boycottnovell [14:47] *XFaCE (~XFaCE@uzfeivw9fp6ba.irc) has joined #boycottnovell [14:47] *rianne (~rianne@pq3xyyer8mdca.irc) has joined #boycottnovell [14:47] *techrights-sec3 (~schestowitz_log@pq3xyyer8mdca.irc) has joined #boycottnovell [14:47] *schestowitz[TR2] (~schestowitz[TR]@pq3xyyer8mdca.irc) has joined #boycottnovell ● Oct 29 [15:45] *starstreak (~starstreak@muarsy2vret2q.irc) has joined #boycottnovell ● Oct 29 [16:00] *starstreak has quit (Quit: Leaving) [16:55] *starstreak (~starstreak@muarsy2vret2q.irc) has joined #boycottnovell [16:57] techrights-sec3 back in a few hours ● Oct 29 [17:41] schestowitz-TR2 went out of town for 4 hours, a place we've not visited in years ● Oct 29 [18:12] schestowitz-TR2 it was not crowded at all and we bought many items long needed, not food [18:12] schestowitz-TR2 also got a lot of sanitisers very cheaply [18:13] schestowitz-TR2 atm I try to get "ahead" of RSS feeds so can do anothe trip tomorrow [18:17] techrights-sec3 A lot of the RSS feeds I have are defunct or very seldomly added to yet there [18:17] techrights-sec3 are so many that they have to be dealt with in 3 or 4 separate sessions. [18:17] techrights-sec3 They'd definitely be way to many to consider if even half were active. [18:17] techrights-sec3 Yet I hope that some of the better ones would get updated more often, even [18:17] techrights-sec3 once a quarter. There were quite a few bloggers that wrote regularly, say [18:17] techrights-sec3 every other month, or every other week, but have gone totally quiet since [18:17] techrights-sec3 last year. [18:37] *DaemonFC (~daemonfc@abqsb93c7szt8.irc) has joined #boycottnovell [18:48] techrights-sec3 I looked at gfeed today but the UI is awful and way too klunky to get anything [18:48] techrights-sec3 done with it. It might not have been designed or tested with more than [18:48] techrights-sec3 a single feed or maybe two or three at the most. QuiteRSS has a good UI [18:48] techrights-sec3 but crashes so often that it is almost not usable, and it seems not to [18:48] techrights-sec3 have been worked on since a year ago if its m$ GitHub account is anything to [18:48] techrights-sec3 go by. [18:49] techrights-sec3 Oh, my. The main developers might be from Russia. If so, they are out for an [18:49] techrights-sec3 indefinite period. [18:49] techrights-sec3 Akregator is a bit hard to use, especially with keys. It seems mouse-only. [18:49] techrights-sec3 Looking at liferea atm [18:49] schestowitz-TR2 there are way to work around quitrss crashing issues [18:49] schestowitz-TR2 impoving the tricks over time [18:58] schestowitz-TR2 I want to expand on your categorisation [18:58] schestowitz-TR2 a) feeds that turn to part-time webspam [18:58] schestowitz-TR2 b) feeds that turn totally spam [18:58] schestowitz-TR2 v) feed that go offline [18:58] schestowitz-TR2 d) feeds that publish so rarely they are not worth the refresh cycle [18:58] schestowitz-TR2 e) feeds that post utter crap all of a suddent (don't want to name any atm) [18:58] schestowitz-TR2 i am going through the weekend list atm, the s/n ratio is not good given that the s was already scooped up by yo [18:58] schestowitz-TR2 u during the week ● Oct 29 [19:41] techrights-sec3 liferea is good but has crashed [19:41] techrights-sec3 a, b, c, and e can all be culled. I try to leave only d and erase the others. [19:41] techrights-sec3 Some in category d are worth the wait and with the right setting never are seen [19:41] techrights-sec3 until they actually produce something. But the question arises of how long [19:41] techrights-sec3 they should be considered idle and at what point they are to be considered [19:41] techrights-sec3 abandoned? [19:41] techrights-sec3 The feeds I sent you are already covered, as you see. They are now a slight [19:41] techrights-sec3 majority of the remaining news. The formerly reliable news sites have less [19:41] techrights-sec3 and less content, let alone useful content. [19:41] techrights-sec3 QuiteRSS has the 'show only unread' option and that hides the idle feeds [19:41] techrights-sec3 quite well. The problem with QuiteRSS is its crashiness. [19:41] techrights-sec3 Liferea does not manage read/unread properly. It is not usable if that is the [19:41] techrights-sec3 case, it needs to keep track of the status and not re-load line items once they [19:41] techrights-sec3 have been read or marked as read. [19:41] techrights-sec3 It also refuses to accept self-signed certificates. That is likey a misfeature [19:41] techrights-sec3 of the modules they have built the tool from. ● Oct 29 [22:08] *starstreak has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s)