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schestowitz-TRcan you see "I have just passed 2 emails to youApr 30 07:31
schestowitz-TR" onwards?Apr 30 07:31
Techrights-secthere is no scroll history, so what was the move which they have made whichApr 30 07:31
Techrights-sechas been too much?Apr 30 07:31
Techrights-secIf they lied then it is time to leave post hasteApr 30 07:31
Techrights-seclying to employees, as wrong as it is, is hard to prosecute;Apr 30 07:31
Techrights-sechowever lying to clients might put them into legal difficulties;Apr 30 07:31
Techrights-secopensource.com seems to have a defective RSS feed, served as text/html Apr 30 07:31
Techrights-secsimilar for devlopers.redhat.comApr 30 07:31
Techrights-secfurthermore redhat.com is blocked by javascript.  skipping rhApr 30 07:31
Techrights-secokApr 30 08:04
Techrights-sec"Nobody else is reporting issues." blaming the reporting parties, theApr 30 08:04
Techrights-secothers are probably just keeping their heads downApr 30 08:04
Techrights-secThey'll often lie about whether others have the same problem or not.Apr 30 08:04
Techrights-secIt is *very* common among microsofters to assert that only *you* have expirienced the brokenness of their software.Apr 30 08:04
Techrights-sec  Howver once you talk with others you'llApr 30 08:04
Techrights-secfind that the others were fed the same lieApr 30 08:04
Techrights-secokApr 30 08:04
schestowitz-TRcan you see "I have just passed 2 emails to youApr 30 08:04
schestowitz-TR" onwards?Apr 30 08:04
schestowitz-TRI ask cause I'm not sure how tall a buffer you haveApr 30 08:04
schestowitz-TRit was disproved at 1am when a collague expressed support (James)Apr 30 08:04
schestowitz-TRccould you see the  "I have just passed 2 emails to you" part?Apr 30 08:05
schestowitz-TRno further context exist in textApr 30 08:05
schestowitz-TRcan you see the scrollback in full?Apr 30 08:05
schestowitz-TRI am only asking so as to ensure I did not write too much when you were afkApr 30 08:09
Techrights-secokApr 30 08:11
Techrights-secnoApr 30 08:11
Techrights-secthe scroll back is not available in this program and the screen shows only 25 linesApr 30 08:11
Techrights-secackApr 30 08:11
Techrights-secattention wanders and if the window is up, there is no audible warning like iftmux focus is elsewhereApr 30 08:11
Techrights-sec2) both the leaving and the new income source are importantApr 30 08:20
Techrights-secI'd say time is of the essence, oince they have gotten blatant about lyingApr 30 08:20
schestowitz-TRAssuming you could see it all:Apr 30 08:20
schestowitz-TR1) rh I can cover manually, I usually nitpick on what they say this year anywayApr 30 08:20
schestowitz-TR2) rianne and I have mostly decided to leave, but not formally until we have a new income sourceApr 30 08:20
schestowitz-TRI do not intend to look for a job as there are not many (decent) ones leftApr 30 08:22
schestowitz-TRso it would be pointlessApr 30 08:22
schestowitz-TRhowever, to start something when the economy is like this... not that great, eitherApr 30 08:22
schestowitz-TRbut I think that the goal of leaving is final(ised)Apr 30 08:22
Techrights-secackApr 30 08:23
Techrights-secdo TR and TM have patreon accounts?Apr 30 08:23
schestowitz-TRseeing the trajectory of other Linux sites, this would not workApr 30 08:27
schestowitz-TRthe sellouts (fossforce, phoronix etc.) destroy years of credibilityApr 30 08:27
schestowitz-TRas for lwn, they lost many subscribers and "rib" (Rebecca Sobol) left after almost 20 years. "ris"Apr 30 08:27
Techrights-secackApr 30 08:27
Techrights-secI still think that patreon is a convenient supplementApr 30 08:27
Techrights-secalso donations via stripeApr 30 08:27
schestowitz-TRyou optimistically assume some people would payApr 30 08:28
schestowitz-TRI am sceptical of that and years ago I spoke to Liam Dawe who said you must give some "Extras"Apr 30 08:28
schestowitz-TRfor people to pay, otherwise in his experience people would not botherApr 30 08:29
Techrights-sectrends changeApr 30 08:32
schestowitz-TRyes, more people have less money to sapre now  Apr 30 08:38
schestowitz-TR*spareApr 30 08:38
Techrights-secfor the most part, yes, but they also are more empathetic in that area too as Apr 30 08:38
Techrights-seca resultApr 30 08:38
schestowitz-TRdraftApr 30 08:58
schestowitz-TRcan you find a link so I can quote you and add it?Apr 30 08:58
schestowitz-TRThis would help workersApr 30 08:58
Techrights-seccheckingApr 30 08:58
Techrights-secthere was an in-depth article sometime in the last year about how Apr 30 08:58
Techrights-secoutsourcing kills an organization by removing skilled, experienced peers fromApr 30 08:58
Techrights-secthe pool of skilled, experienced people and thus causing the ones who remainApr 30 08:58
Techrights-secto feel increasingly out of place and isolated until they finally leave as wellApr 30 08:58
Techrights-secdon't quot me, it's just blather but I'll try to find the link Apr 30 08:58
Techrights-secseveral:Apr 30 09:06
Techrights-sechttps://blog.dshr.org/2020/04/outsourcing-reduces-productivity.htmlApr 30 09:06
Techrights-secand this one is not quite the analysis I was looking for:Apr 30 09:06
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-blog.dshr.org | DSHR's Blog: Outsourcing Reduces ProductivityApr 30 09:06
Techrights-sechttps://www.industryweek.com/supply-chain/article/22027840/boeings-737-max-software-outsourced-to-9anhour-engineersApr 30 09:06
Techrights-secbut the debacle there was caused by the braindrain that outsourcing causesApr 30 09:06
Techrights-secbasically by outsourcing Boeing had turned itself from a leader to a backwaterApr 30 09:06
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-Boeing's 737 Max Software Outsourced to $9-an-Hour Engineers | IndustryWeekApr 30 09:06
Techrights-seclike many universities have been doing in recent decades as wellApr 30 09:06
schestowitz-TRI am goint to reuse parts of that text and rewriteApr 30 09:08
schestowitz-TRa lot of your insights, like financialisationApr 30 09:08
schestowitz-TRare above my headApr 30 09:08
schestowitz-TRbut they help point people in areas they did not explore beforeApr 30 09:08
schestowitz-TRrianne is in shift nowApr 30 09:08
schestowitz-TRwe still try to brainstorm the "exit"Apr 30 09:08
schestowitz-TRthere is no pressure from anyone to rushApr 30 09:08
Techrights-seccan't find the analysis I was thinking ofApr 30 09:08
schestowitz-TRthat's OKApr 30 09:18
schestowitz-TRI've just  had another long chat about the company situationApr 30 09:18
schestowitz-TRwe feel better knowing that the daring decision was madeApr 30 09:18
schestowitz-TRand we've not left with nothing for the time beingApr 30 09:18
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Techrights-secackApr 30 09:23
Techrights-secstill slogging through the feed script update, lots of commits so far, will Apr 30 09:23
Techrights-secget them into Git later once done with the listApr 30 09:23
schestowitz-TRI hardly managed to write articles in recent daysApr 30 09:23
schestowitz-TRwork and arguing with people and other thingsApr 30 09:24
schestowitz-TRso we don't meet the full potential if I stay thereApr 30 09:24
schestowitz-TRI will speak to my parents soon, need to hear what they think (I value their advice only as parentsApr 30 09:24
schestowitz-TRbut they are not well educated and cannot give good advice on such issues)Apr 30 09:24
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schestowitz-TRYou should see that article about Campinos ttamtrumApr 30 09:34
schestowitz-TR"best of europe???"Apr 30 09:34
Techrights-sechttp://techrights.org/2022/04/30/campinos-f-bombs/ ??Apr 30 09:34
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-techrights.org | What the F Did António Campinos Just Say??? | TechrightsApr 30 09:35
schestowitz-TRyesApr 30 09:37
schestowitz-TRI might meet a friend later today to discuss the work situationApr 30 09:37
schestowitz-TRhe hss just phoned meApr 30 09:37
schestowitz-TRturns out that, like my other good friend, his knees swelled up 2 months after the shotsApr 30 09:37
schestowitz-TRhe is an atheleteApr 30 09:37
schestowitz-TRworld #1 in some areas (200m and 400m for over 45)Apr 30 09:37
schestowitz-TRand he regrets taking the shots, sitllApr 30 09:37
schestowitz  <li>Apr 30 09:40
schestowitz                                    <h5><a href="https://boilingsteam.com/2400-games-on-the-steam-deck-just-days-after-the-2300-games-milestone/">2400 Games On The Steam Deck, Just Days After The 2300 Games Milestone</a></h5>Apr 30 09:40
schestowitz                                    <blockquote>Apr 30 09:40
schestowitz                                        <p>Slower pace of validation? Looks like Valve is trying to prove us wrong as they have just added close to 100 games in a matter of days after the 2300 games milestone on the Steam Deck. There are now more than 2400 games (2406 at the time of writing) working on the Steam Deck – in two categories as usual:</p>Apr 30 09:40
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-boilingsteam.com | 2400 Games On The Steam Deck, Just Days after the 2300 Games Milestone - Boiling SteamApr 30 09:40
schestowitz                                        <p>Steam Deck Verified: 1261 titles</p>Apr 30 09:40
schestowitz                                        <p>Steam Deck Playable: 1145 titles</p>Apr 30 09:40
schestowitz                                    </blockquote>Apr 30 09:40
schestowitz                                </li>Apr 30 09:40
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schestowitz  <li>Apr 30 09:43
schestowitz                                    <h5><a href="https://blog.arduino.cc/2022/04/28/arduino-controlled-cnc-engraver-uses-solar-power/">Arduino-controlled CNC engraver uses solar power</a></h5>Apr 30 09:43
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-blog.arduino.cc | Arduino-controlled CNC engraver uses solar power | Arduino BlogApr 30 09:43
schestowitz                                    <blockquote>Apr 30 09:43
schestowitz                                        <p>This machine doesn’t use energy from the sun to run the gantry motors or even the Arduino Uno board. Instead, it uses the sun and a glass lens in place of a conventional laser. Laser engravers are expensive because of the laser tubes, optics, and power supply. By replacing all of those with the sun and cheap lens, Cranktown City was able to engrave wood by burning it while saving a lot of money. He Apr 30 09:43
schestowitzjust needed a way to harness the sun’s energy and direct it with moderate precision.</p>Apr 30 09:43
schestowitz                                    </blockquote>Apr 30 09:43
schestowitz                                </li>Apr 30 09:43
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Techrights-secI think many ofthe XPaths are more precise now without being more brittle thanApr 30 09:58
Techrights-secthey absolutely have to beApr 30 09:58
schestowitz-TRa lot of these feeds that I've not sent are howto sitesApr 30 10:00
schestowitz-TRthose are of value, but the text extracted from their body is not crucialApr 30 10:00
schestowitz-TRhowtos are important, but they are not  "news"Apr 30 10:00
Techrights-secok should they not be in the daily.links file?Apr 30 10:33
schestowitz-TRseparate file would make sense, I think, as it helps sortingApr 30 10:33
Techrights-secok a separate file will be addedApr 30 10:38
Techrights-secpushedApr 30 10:54
Techrights-secthe additional feeds are now in daily-supplementary.feedsApr 30 10:54
Techrights-secwill you run them through rss-since-scraper.pl daily?Apr 30 10:54
schestowitz-TRI think I last 2 years ago Apr 30 10:54
schestowitz-TRand had difficultiesApr 30 10:54
Techrights-seclets set up a cron job on the rpi thenApr 30 11:11
schestowitz-TRthat would be good (onphone now)Apr 30 11:12
schestowitz-TRbrbApr 30 11:12
schestowitz-TRmy dad generally suggests that, I think correctly, my job is hard to findApr 30 11:28
schestowitz-TRand that I should not rush with anythingApr 30 11:28
schestowitz-TRit'll be hard to find something comparableApr 30 11:28
Techrights-secnot rush with telling the current employer anything but do keep active in   Apr 30 11:57
Techrights-seclooking for an upgrade elsewhere; it is infinity easier to find a job whileApr 30 11:57
Techrights-secyou already have one, plus the pressure is less and thus the negition is fromApr 30 11:57
Techrights-seca stronger positionApr 30 11:57
Techrights-secit'll be hard to find something comparable so the time is now to quietlyApr 30 11:57
Techrights-secbeging looking withou letting your current employer know, say through thisApr 30 11:57
Techrights-seclog :/Apr 30 11:57
schestowitz-TRI have just physically repositioned the piApr 30 11:58
schestowitz-TRto take it further away from the fish tankApr 30 11:58
schestowitz-TRit was in a risky area in case they splashApr 30 11:58
schestowitz-TRsomething they go "bloop"Apr 30 11:58
schestowitz-TR*sometimesApr 30 11:58
schestowitz-TRthe pi has external 3tb drive connected to itApr 30 11:58
schestowitz-TRI mostly use that for backup as as over-the-lan SANApr 30 11:58
schestowitz-TRre job, they already know for years I considered leavingApr 30 11:58
schestowitz-TRso it's an open secretApr 30 11:58
schestowitz-TRalso, they would not read ircApr 30 11:58
schestowitz-TRtoo dumb to know what that is^_^Apr 30 11:59
Techrights-secjust the same ...Apr 30 12:00
schestowitz-TRanyway, I will more proactively exploreApr 30 12:03
schestowitz-TRwith low expectations setApr 30 12:03
schestowitz-TRfriends who are not working in CS Apr 30 12:03
schestowitz-TRmost jobs, including my current one, aren't found in papers or onlineApr 30 12:03
schestowitz-TRit's someone who knows someone who...Apr 30 12:03
schestowitz-TRvouching for x...Apr 30 12:03
schestowitz-TRmy skillset is contrainedApr 30 12:03
schestowitz-TRseeing hoiw fact inflation shot up, early retirement is a runaway trainApr 30 12:03
schestowitz-TRthen you see how EPO treats its own PENSIONERSApr 30 12:03
schestowitz-TRI am going to go through patent news tonight or tomorrow and focus on a set of points that areApr 30 12:05
schestowitz-TRthe biggest thorns on the side of "*uck campinos *uck *fuck"Apr 30 12:05
schestowitz-TRthe strategy seems to be working Apr 30 12:05
schestowitz-TRthey really, REALLY hate techrightsApr 30 12:05
schestowitz-TRand you saw last night we get uspto info as well nowApr 30 12:05
schestowitz-TRbut not as oftenApr 30 12:05
schestowitz-TRkappos is among those feeling the heatApr 30 12:05
schestowitz-TRwhich impedes his lobbyingApr 30 12:05
Techrights-secexcellent progressApr 30 12:09
schestowitz-TRuspto retreated a bitApr 30 12:09
schestowitz-TRthe ooxml program was supposed to start 2 years agoApr 30 12:09
schestowitz-TRnow they allow pdfApr 30 12:09
schestowitz-TRas "backup"Apr 30 12:09
schestowitz-TRthey need to back-PEDALApr 30 12:09
schestowitz-TRuspto aside, in epo the goal is to put someone OUTSIDE the clinque in chargeApr 30 12:09
schestowitz-TRand do what biden did in the White House (with remaining evidence) to hold Apr 30 12:09
schestowitz-TRthe saboteurs accountable, skeletons found in closets and allApr 30 12:09
Techrights-secThey need to eliminate OOXML completely, but this is a good first step in   Apr 30 12:30
Techrights-secretreat from their inexcusable attempt to hand part of the US gov to M$Apr 30 12:30
Techrights-sec^another partApr 30 12:30
schestowitz-TRphase a) fake consultationApr 30 12:31
schestowitz-TRb) we're moving to ooxmlApr 30 12:31
schestowitz-TRc) ok, NOT YETApr 30 12:31
schestowitz-TRd) OK, OK, you can still use PDFApr 30 12:31
schestowitz-TRe) forget the whole thingApr 30 12:31
schestowitz-TREPO had a similar issue, but OOXML isn't there anymoreApr 30 12:31
schestowitz-TRMicrosoft Vidal will harm the OfficeApr 30 12:31
Techrights-secf) find those responsible for the attempt at sabotaging the USPTO with OOXML andApr 30 12:32
Techrights-secfire themApr 30 12:32
schestowitz-TRthere is a typoApr 30 12:32
schestowitz-TRyou meant HIREApr 30 12:32
schestowitz-TRnot FIRE ;-)Apr 30 12:32
schestowitz-TRthis morning I made a note to myself, to a) check in first week of May Window "market share" b) end of month tasksApr 30 12:37
schestowitz-TRI asked last night if you want the belarus files in /tmp againApr 30 12:37
Techrights-secwell we'd get in trouble if the real verb, pulp, would be usedApr 30 12:43
schestowitz-TRgimp fiction Apr 30 12:43
schestowitzhttp://techrights.org/wp-content/uploads/2022/04/upc-celeb-meme.pngApr 30 12:44
schestowitz-TRfunny you mention hat asd I have just one meme in the eueueApr 30 12:44
Techrights-sec"""Apr 30 12:46
Techrights-secFrom Belarus With Love - Parts 1 to 3Apr 30 12:46
Techrights-secFrom Belarus With Love - Parts 4 and 5Apr 30 12:46
Techrights-secFrom Belarus With Love - Parts 6 and 7Apr 30 12:46
Techrights-sec"""Apr 30 12:46
Techrights-secare there othersApr 30 12:46
Techrights-sec?Apr 30 12:46
Techrights-secackApr 30 12:46
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schestowitz"ODT is much better and we are exceptionally happy about the change, which we were shy to suggest in the past. The tenants of the 10th floor dislike the publications very strongly, but they've quit siccing lawyers."Apr 30 12:57
schestowitz-TRI am going to add more now....Apr 30 12:59
schestowitz-TRgot the pi instructions, tooApr 30 12:59
schestowitz-TRwill look into it after thisApr 30 12:59
schestowitz-TRbtw, we've moved to ODFApr 30 12:59
schestowitz-TRaway from OOXMLApr 30 12:59
schestowitz-TRsources are OK with itApr 30 12:59
schestowitz-TRhaving been made awareApr 30 12:59
schestowitz-TRyou will now find two new odt filesApr 30 12:59
Techrights-secbacked upApr 30 13:05
Techrights-sec^in progressApr 30 13:05
Techrights-secall set. thanksApr 30 13:05
schestowitz-TRany downsides, in your experience, running the rss collectors from a laptop?Apr 30 13:07
schestowitz-TRmy laptops are always turned onApr 30 13:07
Techrights-secnot really they don't consume a lot of CPU or bandwidth it' s just that being onApr 30 13:07
Techrights-seca laptop they should be run manually or via anacron because the laptop mightApr 30 13:07
Techrights-secnot be active at the moment the cronjob normally runsApr 30 13:07
schestowitz-TRI have just run this successfully on my old laptopApr 30 14:31
schestowitz-TRthat will be a good stepping stone towards automating a lot more, where possibleApr 30 14:31
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Techrights-secgreatApr 30 14:52
Techrights-sec"""Apr 30 14:52
Techrights-secsoft deadline shutdownApr 30 14:52
Techrights-secThe system is going DOWN to maintenance mode in 480 minutes!Apr 30 14:52
Techrights-sec"""Apr 30 14:52
schestowitz-TR<techrights-news> "the rate of antidepressant use in the United States increased nearly 400 percent." ☛ https://www.counterpunch.org/2022/04/29/do-you-still-believe-in-the-chemical-imbalance-theory-of-mental-illness/ | Source: Counter PunchApr 30 15:06
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-Do You Still Believe in the “Chemical Imbalance Theory of Mental Illness”? - CounterPunch.orgApr 30 15:06
schestowitz-TR<techrights-news> On evictions ☛ https://truthout.org/articles/evictions-are-climbing-to-pre-pandemic-levels-in-cities-across-the-us/ | Source: TruthOutApr 30 15:07
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-truthout.org | Evictions Are Climbing to Pre-Pandemic Levels in Cities Across the USApr 30 15:07
Techrights-secThe US has a history of medicating people that step out of line or otherwiseApr 30 15:16
Techrights-secstand outApr 30 15:16
Techrights-secTorvalds probably had a close call when he was sent off in the LF coupApr 30 15:16
schestowitz-TRmork and mindyApr 30 15:17
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Techrights-secin which context?                 Apr 30 15:38
schestowitz-TRit looks like the expander for irc line expects an html context like merged but unlike supplementary linksApr 30 15:39
schestowitz-TRis it for htmltidy or something to do with indentation?Apr 30 15:39
schestowitz-TRnever mind, I got itApr 30 15:43
schestowitz-TRok, it seems to be working now, the workflow as is will also let me start with "Linux" feeds before you send anythiApr 30 15:48
schestowitz-TRng my way, I assume I just need to run it some time after midnightApr 30 15:48
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Techrights-sec Apr 30 15:55
Techrights-secyes any time after 00:00Apr 30 15:55
Techrights-secyou can adjust the amount of redundancy too chanve the -n days to somethingApr 30 15:55
Techrights-secusefulApr 30 15:55
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schestowitzhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UJBlCRlEEEIApr 30 19:52
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@Invidious: https://inv.bp.mutahar.rocks/watch?v=UJBlCRlEEEIApr 30 19:52
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-Connection timed out after 10001 milliseconds ( status 0 @ https://inv.bp.mutahar.rocks/watch?v=UJBlCRlEEEI )Apr 30 19:52
schestowitz-TRdoing full /home backup on piApr 30 20:14
schestowitz-TRrianne now uses that as her file server for working filesApr 30 20:14
schestowitz-TRI reckon it's safer than kate working locally and writing only to local diskApr 30 20:14
schestowitz-TRI still need to make a backup of the new laptop, it as no scripts for that yetApr 30 20:14
schestowitz-TROTAApr 30 20:15
schestowitz-TRThese UPC lies require "anger management"Apr 30 21:27
schestowitz-TRnot sure if zoobab still relies 99% on Musk Social to fight on that frontApr 30 21:27
schestowitz-TRWe need to make sure only "Orange One" uses the F word and loses his coolApr 30 21:27
schestowitz-TRnot us or staff repsApr 30 21:27
schestowitz-TRsee draft plsApr 30 21:27
Techrights-seclies in politics, UPC or not, are frustrating especially when they areApr 30 21:28
Techrights-secused to produce warApr 30 21:28
Techrights-secyes, that's part of the diplomatic gameApr 30 21:28
Techrights-seccheckingApr 30 21:28
Techrights-secwhich illegal and unconstitutional activities is glorified, and which    Apr 30 21:28
Techrights-secconstitution?Apr 30 21:28
Techrights-secI presume the EPOs own ?Apr 30 21:28
Techrights-secThe pictures are distractingApr 30 21:28
schestowitz-TRI added links, twice, to the same thingApr 30 21:29
schestowitz-TR35 commentsApr 30 21:29
schestowitz-TRthat explain what a sham and a SCAM this whole thing isApr 30 21:29
schestowitz-TRI want people to click on  thatApr 30 21:29
schestowitz-TRI also made full backup in IRC logsApr 30 21:29
Techrights-secLInks are a supplement, anchor text must provide the enticement to click onApr 30 21:29
Techrights-secthe linkApr 30 21:29
schestowitz-TRshould I take screenshots of some comments with "alt"Apr 30 21:33
schestowitz-TRas a teaser?Apr 30 21:33
schestowitz-TRmind you, I will have a MUUUUCH more detailed post about UPC tomorrowApr 30 21:33
schestowitz-TRmaybe I will do the screnshots in thatg oneApr 30 21:33
schestowitz-TRthe real reason I do this one is, while recording I went to epo.org andApr 30 21:33
schestowitz-TRsaw these UPC fakes from FridayApr 30 21:33
schestowitz-TRcouldn't resist the uege to respond ASAPApr 30 21:33
schestowitz-TRyes, but in realpolitik maybe nowApr 30 21:33
schestowitz-TR*not Apr 30 21:33
Techrights-secthat might workApr 30 21:33
Techrights-secare there really no legal repercussions for the lying like that?Apr 30 21:33
schestowitz-TRdraft (gemini)Apr 30 21:49
Techrights-seccheckingApr 30 21:49
Techrights-secnice summaryApr 30 21:49
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