●● IRC: #boycottnovell @ Techrights IRC Network: Tuesday, August 30, 2022 ●● ● Aug 30 [00:21] *starstreak has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [00:35] *starstreak (~starstreak@muarsy2vret2q.irc) has joined #boycottnovell ● Aug 30 [02:36] *u-amarsh04 (~amarsh04@freenode-rmogvn.g0d7.dtdf.mc4289.IP) has joined #boycottnovell [02:36] *u-amarsh04 (~amarsh04@5tcc2vuaj9aks.irc) has joined #boycottnovell ● Aug 30 [04:29] *starstreak has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [04:41] *Mio14 (~quassel@freenode-k7u.n9b.35qdac.IP) has joined #boycottnovell ● Aug 30 [06:19] *starstreak (~starstreak@muarsy2vret2q.irc) has joined #boycottnovell ● Aug 30 [07:13] *DaemonFC has quit (Quit: Leaving) ● Aug 30 [08:43] *Mio14 has quit (Ping timeout: 120 seconds) ● Aug 30 [09:08] schestowitz-TR2 this past month "Microsoft" barely shows up in Linux news [09:08] schestowitz-TR2 thory: they dismantled some units reponsible for it, e.g. WSL and PR spam [09:09] Techrights-sec quite likely though this is the time of the year during which they regroup [09:09] Techrights-sec historically (if I understand correctly) they call in their minions to a [09:09] Techrights-sec conference to ensure they are all on message for the coming academic year [09:09] Techrights-sec if they all return to making noise next week, don't be surprised if [09:09] Techrights-sec 1) they are all on the same talking points, but 2) those talking points have [09:09] Techrights-sec change a little since the summer; [09:11] schestowitz-TR2 an hour ago in TM I put the video of Jay (leanrnlinuxtv) regarding "year of the desktop" [09:11] schestowitz-TR2 it's not a bad video, worth the time tbh [09:11] schestowitz-TR2 I tend to playback invidious at 1.5x or 2x the speed, depending on the content [09:11] Techrights-sec Did he acknowledge the OEM monopoly that M$ abuses? [09:13] schestowitz-TR2 no, this is my main issue with it [09:13] schestowitz-TR2 no mention of secure boot [09:13] schestowitz-TR2 bribes OEM lockout [09:13] schestowitz-TR2 and other crimes [09:17] Techrights-sec Then without acknowledgment of the anti-competitive abuses, specifically [09:17] Techrights-sec stuff like restricted boot and the OEM monopoly, there is really no point [09:17] Techrights-sec and in some ways is kind of blaming the victim: [09:17] Techrights-sec "if only vendors saw the market potential ..." [09:17] Techrights-sec "if only distros were easier to use ..." [09:17] Techrights-sec "if only there were fewer distros ..." [09:17] Techrights-sec and so on with the FUD they are reinforcing. Remember that m$ successfully [09:17] Techrights-sec fought against and got laws blocking whitebox systems. [09:19] schestowitz-TR2 hence I thought it might be worth doing a rebuttal to [09:19] schestowitz-TR2 what do you think? [09:19] schestowitz-TR2 video rebuttal? [09:19] schestowitz-TR2 you can then see it with my response [09:19] schestowitz-TR2 it would be fair use [09:22] Techrights-sec Perhaps more like filling in the gaps than an actual rebuttal. DT often makes [09:22] Techrights-sec the same mistakes. Though I can't guess the reason for DT's mistakes, it [09:22] Techrights-sec can't be naivety because he has been around the block enough times to know [09:22] Techrights-sec how M$ operates. If he is trying to project his own values onto the crowd [09:22] Techrights-sec or mob known as M$, then that is a major error in judgement. Without having [09:22] Techrights-sec seen Jay's video(s), I may be off, but say again that projecting ones own values [09:22] Techrights-sec is a common error. There may be other reason for missing or pretending not [09:22] Techrights-sec to see the ongoing anti-competitive behaviors. [09:22] schestowitz-TR2 thanks, OTA [09:24] Techrights-sec np ● Aug 30 [10:46] *starstreak has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [10:48] schestowitz-TR2 done, I realise he does indeed repeat thew same (wrong) point again and again like 10 mins [10:48] schestowitz-TR2 he could make it more concuise, but so could I (50 mins) [10:48] schestowitz-TR2 but I didn't script it [10:48] schestowitz-TR2 I will now look into IRS files of LF for more things [10:48] schestowitz-TR2 processing video, draft in place (not for LF, not yet) ● Aug 30 [11:07] Techrights-sec ack [11:36] schestowitz-TR2 draft re lf [11:36] schestowitz-TR2 took a while [11:36] schestowitz-TR2 but worth it [11:36] schestowitz-TR2 done, published [11:36] schestowitz-TR2 there's lots more to be shown some other day [11:36] schestowitz-TR2 same for github, we keep it on reserve ● Aug 30 [12:07] schestowitz-TR2 Excess Deaths in the UK This Summer Worst in Years https://schestowitz.com/Weblog/archives/2022/08/30/excess-deaths-in-the-uk/ [12:07] -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-schestowitz.com Blog Archive Excess Deaths in the UK This Summer Worst in Years [12:18] *psydruid (~psydruid@jevhxkzmtrbww.irc) has left #boycottnovell [12:36] Techrights-sec ack [12:39] schestowitz-TR2 productive day today [12:39] schestowitz-TR2 the exam is tomorrow, then there will be another one for her ("Life in the UK"... she's scoring a lot higher than needed in the mock exams) [12:39] schestowitz-TR2 tomorrow is oral, so can induce some stress/anxiety, unlike the multiple-choice exam [12:39] schestowitz-TR2 I did my last shift today, could use more topics tbh [12:39] schestowitz-TR2 or stuff to do on the sites, I've begun dealing a bit with the utf-8 issue, using a bunch of sed lines... I'll copy these over to rianne's scripts when [12:39] schestowitz-TR2 I'm done, to greatly reduce the chance of that happening [12:39] schestowitz-TR2 in rss I noticed such issues can creep in too [12:39] schestowitz-TR2 maybe some perl libraries handle unicode differently, that's my guess anyway [12:40] Techrights-sec for topics, there are those who apparently knowingly omit mentioning M$ ongoing [12:40] Techrights-sec anti-competitive maneuvers, for whatever reason. That shifts the blame to the [12:40] Techrights-sec victims and makes them at least passively complicit in the crimes. [12:41] schestowitz-TR2 i put a quick first draft about this [12:41] schestowitz-TR2 video is 50 mins, so will take longer [12:41] schestowitz-TR2 I could add links, but said in the video they would be rather old [12:41] schestowitz-TR2 so it's more important to explain, with or within a lot of rerefences [12:41] schestowitz-TR2 Derak Tayloer is mentioned too [12:41] schestowitz-TR2 as you had brough Derek taylor up [12:49] Techrights-sec He mostly does good work but goes out of his way to turn a blind eye to the [12:49] Techrights-sec OEM problems and joins those incorrectly placing the blame on the distros. ● Aug 30 [13:04] *psydruid (~psydruid@jevhxkzmtrbww.irc) has joined #boycottnovell ● Aug 30 [14:47] schestowitz-TR2 I am not sure if TM server side manages to catch camelcase for the cites domain and inject that into title="" [14:47] schestowitz-TR2 so far I don't think I saw that happen except when I added thse manually at my end [14:47] schestowitz-TR2 just sayin' [14:47] schestowitz-TR2 you did post an example with redhat.com but I don't think I have saw that working [14:51] Techrights-sec checking [14:51] Techrights-sec It works, for the sites that are registered, and only in new posts, not [14:51] Techrights-sec retroactively. There'd have to be a script to do the retroactive editing [14:51] Techrights-sec if the old posts are to be modified. [14:51] Techrights-sec It's a labor intensive work flow to keep the file up to date. [14:51] Techrights-sec I'm not sure it is viable in the long run. [14:55] schestowitz__[TR]

For a systems administrator, it seems like every project brings new complexity, more servers, and more sprawl to manage. I will assume that your messes are a lot like mine: On one server, you're running CentOS Linux 7 from a project several years ago. Over here, you have a handful of Red Hat Enterprise Linux (RHEL) 9 servers from a recent project. Over there, you have an Oracle RAC database running on Oracle Linux [14:55] schestowitz__[TR] 8. [14:55] schestowitz__[TR] Read on [14:55] -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-www.redhat.com | 2 tools to manage infrastructure sprawl with Red Hat Enterprise Linux (RHEL) | Enable Sysadmin [14:55] schestowitz__[TR] Also Red Hat: Edge computing: 4 considerations for success [14:55] -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-enterprisersproject.com | Edge computing: 4 considerations for success | The Enterprisers Project [14:55] schestowitz__[TR] Kubernetes 101 for developers: Names, ports, YAML files, and more [14:55] -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-developers.redhat.com | Kubernetes 101 for developers: Names, ports, YAML files, and more | Red Hat Developer [14:56] schestowitz-TR2 is [14:56] schestowitz-TR2 Where LF used to be but left http://www.onelettermandrive.com/pdf/ldac_availability_6_13.pdf [17:18] schestowitz-TR2 And LF was in unit D: http://www.onelettermandrive.com/campus_plan.html# www.onelettermandrive.com/cp/building_d.html [17:18] -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-www.onelettermandrive.com | Letterman Digital Arts Center [17:18] schestowitz-TR2 -TechrightsSocial/#boycottnovell-social- www.onelettermandrive.com | Letterman Digital Arts Center [17:18] schestowitz-TR2 Linux development has long been based in Portland, but Jim Zemlin and Microsoft Sheela prefer to blow away $5,000,000+ a year (NOT their own money) on some glorified estate at the banks of Golden Gate Bridge [17:18] schestowitz-TR2 draft [17:18] schestowitz-TR2 this will abuse you [17:18] Techrights-sec ack [17:20] schestowitz-TR2 adding transcript [17:24] schestowitz-TR2 adding transcript [17:24] schestowitz-TR2 he's a bit like TheLiar in our company [17:24] schestowitz-TR2 funnily enough, Sheela Microsoft looks a lot like SareenGas [17:24] schestowitz-TR2 both of the same country of origin [17:25] schestowitz-TR2 Sareen liked to pretent she was from KSA [17:25] schestowitz-TR2 to elevate her status [17:25] Techrights-sec ack [17:28] schestowitz-TR2 hoyek from container fame (docker) was ousted from his own company [17:29] schestowitz-TR2 familira story these days [17:29] schestowitz-TR2 Jobs [17:29] schestowitz-TR2 RMS (temporarily) [17:29] schestowitz-TR2 LT (same) [17:29] schestowitz-TR2 EFF (John) [17:29] schestowitz-TR2 the capital givers call the shots [17:29] schestowitz-TR2 and those whom the capital givers hold by the strings [17:29] schestowitz-TR2 other than our CEO (relatively OK; technical too) I'm the longest serving employee [17:29] schestowitz-TR2 I doubt I can find a way out by year's end [17:29] schestowitz-TR2 they're not progressing at all [17:29] Techrights-sec RMS seems retired at this point [17:29] Techrights-sec ack [17:29] schestowitz-TR2 just stalling, but at least I'm paid for my time and today I opened my mouth again [17:30] schestowitz-TR2 rms is prof emeritus [17:30] schestowitz-TR2 still allowed the visit the campus sometimes [17:30] schestowitz-TR2 give a special one-off lecture [17:30] schestowitz-TR2 then go bakc home to die [17:30] Techrights-sec hmm. they should be working on using his guidance to future-proof the movement [17:35] *starstreak (~starstreak@muarsy2vret2q.irc) has joined #boycottnovell [17:36] Techrights-sec the way 'open source' is being abused in place of Software Freedom, the [17:36] Techrights-sec resources are in effect being strip mined and not cultivated. but the monthly [17:36] Techrights-sec or quarterly result crowd doesn't look that far ahead. they can't care if [17:36] Techrights-sec there's little to nothing in the pipeline compared to decades past if they [17:36] Techrights-sec only look ahead a few weeks at a time. [17:37] schestowitz-TR2 I don't think it's about money [17:37] schestowitz-TR2 they need to motivate enough volunteers to join hands a la Debian [17:42] Techrights-sec ack [17:44] schestowitz-TR2 it does matter that osi perishes too [17:44] schestowitz-TR2 a lot can be accomplished on shoestring budget [17:44] schestowitz-TR2 I think gnu got lots done (thousands of 'workers') in the 1980s and 90s [17:44] schestowitz-TR2 but didn't see that first-hand [17:44] schestowitz-TR2 osi lost almost all the "members" [17:44] schestowitz-TR2 not enough fools to 'volunteers' or 'donate' to a Micrtosoft front group/outpost [17:44] Techrights-sec yes [17:44] Techrights-sec popular computer magazines at the time discussed not only the tools, which [17:44] Techrights-sec isn't even done any more, but also the reasons for the tools, up to and [17:44] Techrights-sec including discussions of the GNU Manifesto -- in multiple magazines [17:44] Techrights-sec of the era [17:46] *starstreak has quit (Quit: Leaving) [17:48] schestowitz-TR2 those would not succeed today unless that fit in a "tweet" [17:48] schestowitz-TR2 with some emoji about a dancing 'celeb' in an infinite scroll UI [17:48] schestowitz-TR2 I think today's interaction tools lack proper reading, saving, and writing capabilities [17:48] schestowitz-TR2 they encourage shallow shit in high quantities [17:48] schestowitz-TR2 "don't think before you post" [17:48] schestowitz-TR2 calling a person drunk just because the person dances [17:48] schestowitz-TR2 any press office would obstruct such foolish utterances [17:48] schestowitz-TR2 and contribute to better discourse, cohesioin [17:48] schestowitz-TR2 the vast majority if the anti-RMS campaign went on in "social" control media [17:48] schestowitz-TR2 though the signing was managd by Microsoft TypeScript in ShitHub [17:48] schestowitz-TR2 by Elana Hashpuppy [17:48] schestowitz-TR2 (back then Azure @ ICBM) [17:48] *starstreak (~starstreak@muarsy2vret2q.irc) has joined #boycottnovell [17:50] schestowitz-TR2 Elana Hamasman [17:50] schestowitz-TR2 lol [17:51] Techrights-sec Many article mention "cloud" and those that mention M$ Azure mention as an aside [17:51] Techrights-sec that they don't say how much, if any, money they make on it. [17:52] schestowitz-TR2 or what share [17:52] schestowitz-TR2 this was mentioned in irc about 2 hours ago ● Aug 30 [18:05] Techrights-sec checking [18:05] Techrights-sec only mentioned there superficially [18:05] schestowitz-TR2 curious I cannot find any real data [18:05] schestowitz-TR2 in the past there was [18:05] schestowitz-TR2 a) journalism (with real budget) [18:05] schestowitz-TR2 b) 'analysts' who study this, like sandvine for net traffic [18:11] Techrights-sec old, rerun: https://www.pewresearch.org/fact-tank/2021/07/13/u-s-newsroom-employment-has-fallen-26-since-2008/ [18:11] -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-www.pewresearch.org | U.S. newsroom employment has fallen 26% since 2008 | Pew Research Center [18:14] schestowitz-TR2 curious I cannot find any real data [18:14] schestowitz-TR2 in the past there was [18:14] schestowitz-TR2 a) journalism (with real budget) [18:14] schestowitz-TR2 b) 'analysts' who study this, like sandvine for net traffic [18:14] schestowitz-TR2 many of the remaning get rented [18:14] schestowitz-TR2 bill, jeff bezos, etc. [18:14] schestowitz-TR2 but don't worry, we still have billions of "tweets" out there and people who can toss them in a basket to call it "journalism", e.g. about Marin, Marine Le Pen, [18:14] schestowitz-TR2 and Cheeto Nazi [18:14] schestowitz-TR2 like with RMS< they've called corbyn everything in the black book [18:14] schestowitz-TR2 and twitter deems "you're next" (to be assassinated) to be OK while bagging KSA regime $ [18:15] Techrights-sec They hammered on Corbyn so long that he started to go along with what they [18:15] Techrights-sec were setting him up for. He's over. [18:15] Techrights-sec Long ago now. [18:17] *starstreak has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [18:18] schestowitz-TR2 [...] [18:18] schestowitz-TR2 I herad something to that effect wrt libya [18:19] schestowitz-TR2 but cannot verify for myself [18:19] schestowitz-TR2 the source is a cranky ol friend [18:19] schestowitz-TR2 btw, corbyn was "assigned" to Integrite Initatyive (friends of Bill's Guardian) [18:19] schestowitz-TR2 which incidentally also got assigned to 'kill' Assange [18:19] schestowitz-TR2 around the same time CIA plotted to kill him and discussed optiond [18:19] schestowitz-TR2 *options [18:23] *_Mio14 (~quassel@freenode-lib.je9.e2e87f.IP) has joined #boycottnovell [18:24] *Mio14 has quit (Ping timeout: 120 seconds) [18:25] schestowitz-TR2 --- [18:25] schestowitz-TR2 ftr: "bashing" someone for running a scammy org = legti criticism [18:26] schestowitz-TR2 not "harassment" [18:26] schestowitz-TR2 bashing a man who stares at people due to mental condition = low blow [18:26] schestowitz-TR2 saying ytoung lady cannot dance with friends = sexism/slut-shaming [18:26] schestowitz-TR2 if bojo did the same with his belly hanging, they'd say it's "clown" and "hoi polloi" [18:26] schestowitz-TR2 I foresee attempts to spin LF and EPO criticism as "abuse" [18:26] schestowitz-TR2 like OSI (just mentioned it in IRC btw) uses "homophobia" [18:28] Techrights-sec ack [18:32] schestowitz-TR2 FACEPALM!!! " The affected product root credentials are hard-coded and not changed automatically when first commissioned, which may allow an attacker with SSH access to the device to gain full control." https://www.cisa.gov/uscert/ics/advisories/icsa-22-242-06 [18:32] -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-www.cisa.gov | Honeywell ControlEdge | CISA [18:57] *starstreak (~starstreak@muarsy2vret2q.irc) has joined #boycottnovell ● Aug 30 [21:17] *DaemonFC (~daemonfc@798jm2xuqfzws.irc) has joined #boycottnovell [21:52] Techrights-sec ack [21:52] Techrights-sec Note that there is a general whisper campagin among the microsofters against [21:52] Techrights-sec SSH itself. It, along with IMAPS, has been targeted for removal from the net. [21:52] Techrights-sec I can guess at the reason. SSH allows generic access, which helps keep [21:52] Techrights-sec servers and other systems as interchangeable commodities. If peope can only [21:52] Techrights-sec or learn to only access the systems via proprietary interfaces, then the systems [21:52] Techrights-sec are effectively no longer commodities. ● Aug 30 [22:03] schestowitz-TR2 I think the new modules that makes the TM RSS feed is having a hard time with "smart" quotes or unicode [22:03] schestowitz-TR2 look at the source of the RSS feed near the word "Unofficial" for instance (after that word) [22:04] psydruid I've experienced this myself recently with Microsoft mail using some kind of OAuth that doesn't work with Thunderbird anymore [22:05] psydruid These kinds of substandard "solutions" must be rejected [22:05] psydruid But when even universities succumb to this nonsense the plot is lost [22:06] psydruid And this country loves Microsoft a lot, my university was/is one of the few holdouts [22:41] *starstreak has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [22:51] schestowitz-TR2 citrix ;-) [22:59] *psydruid (~psydruid@jevhxkzmtrbww.irc) has left #boycottnovell [22:59] *psydruid (~psydruid@jevhxkzmtrbww.irc) has joined #boycottnovell ● Aug 30 [23:05] schestowitz-TR2 Weaning off social media and the over-capitalised Big Internet life gemini://xiu.smol.pub/1661838260 [23:25] *starstreak (~starstreak@muarsy2vret2q.irc) has joined #boycottnovell [23:46] *psydruid (~psydruid@jevhxkzmtrbww.irc) has left #boycottnovell [23:46] *psydruid (~psydruid@jevhxkzmtrbww.irc) has joined #boycottnovell [23:57] *psydruid (~psydruid@jevhxkzmtrbww.irc) has left #boycottnovell [23:59] *psydruid (~psydruid@jevhxkzmtrbww.irc) has joined #boycottnovell