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schestowitz <li>Oct 30 08:05
schestowitz                  <h5><a href="https://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/raspberry-pi-zero-2-w-review">Raspberry Pi Zero 2 W Review: The Long Awaited Sequel</a></h5>Oct 30 08:05
schestowitz                  <blockquote>Oct 30 08:05
schestowitz                    <p>The year is 2021 and after six long years we finally see a CPU update to the Raspberry Pi Zero range. The Raspberry Pi Zero 2 W is a $15 quad core Arm Cortex A53, similar to that of the Raspberry Pi 3, in fact they share the same BCM2710A1 die, but the Zero 2 W is underclocked to 1 GHz on all cores. We were lucky enough to get hands on with the Raspberry Pi Zero 2 W, months ahead of its launch and we put it through its Oct 30 08:05
schestowitzpaces to see if it is worth the extra $5.</p></blockquote></li>Oct 30 08:05
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell- ( status 404 @ https://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/raspberry-pi-zero-2-w-review">Raspberry )Oct 30 08:05
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schestowitzBackupOct 30 09:13
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schestowitz 12 commentsOct 30 09:13
schestowitz    Sander ColemanOct 30 09:13
schestowitz    October 28, 2021 at 10:57 pmOct 30 09:13
schestowitz    A clear VCLT violation, you cannot reinterpret crystal clear provisions to overhide Brexit.Oct 30 09:13
schestowitz    Now the question is how to challenge that in court.Oct 30 09:13
schestowitz    ReplyOct 30 09:13
schestowitz    Francine DELGOFFEOct 30 09:13
schestowitz    October 28, 2021 at 11:40 pmOct 30 09:13
schestowitz    “It also pointed out that the Protocol on Privileges and Immunities entered into force as of the day of the meeting, 27 October 2021, one month after Germany deposited its instrument of ratification. So far there has not been much discussion about the PPI’s article 18(1), which states the United Kingdom has to support the PPI as well.”Oct 30 09:13
schestowitz    How to violate the Vienna Convention of the Law of the Treaties.Oct 30 09:13
schestowitz    https://www.quora.com/Is-it-true-that-Otto-von-Bismarck-said-The-agreements-signed-by-Russia-arent-worth-the-price-of-the-sheet-of-paper-they-are-written-onOct 30 09:13
-altlink_3d2/#boycottnovell-📣 Cloudflare: quora.com | 🙆 Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.quora.com/Is-it-true-that-Otto-von-Bismarck-said-The-agreements-signed-by-Russia-arent-worth-the-price-of-the-sheet-of-paper-they-are-written-onOct 30 09:13
schestowitz    ReplyOct 30 09:13
schestowitz    Extraneous AttorneyOct 30 09:13
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-www.quora.com | Is it true that Otto von Bismarck said, 'The agreements signed by Russia aren't worth the price of the sheet of paper they are written on'? - QuoraOct 30 09:13
schestowitz    October 29, 2021 at 10:10 amOct 30 09:13
schestowitz    This attempt at “authentic interpretation” is baffling to say the least. No amount of “interpretation” can override the meaning of a legal text where there is no ambiguity. In Art. 7(2) UPCA, “London” unambiguously means “London”. And even more importantly, in the PPA, “the United Kingdom” unambiguously means “the United Kingdom”. Hence, the PPA cannot enter into force as written. Nothing is actually solved by this Oct 30 09:13
schestowitzpurported “authentic interpretation”.Oct 30 09:13
schestowitz    I fear that if this “train of thought” continues until the UPC is set up, the entire thing may crash and burn spectacularly at the first challenge before the ECJ where it is alleged that a decision of the UPC was handed down illegally because it should have been handed down in London.Oct 30 09:13
schestowitz    ReplyOct 30 09:13
schestowitz    Patent robotOct 30 09:13
schestowitz    October 29, 2021 at 11:20 amOct 30 09:13
schestowitz    If you interpret Italy as being United Kingdom interpreting art. 89 UPCA (the three “necessary” MS are Germany, France and Italy) , then with the same “authentic interpretation” the three sections of art. 7 UPCA are based in Paris, Munich and Milan.Oct 30 09:13
schestowitz    ReplyOct 30 09:13
schestowitz        Extraneous AttorneyOct 30 09:13
schestowitz        October 29, 2021 at 12:44 pmOct 30 09:13
schestowitz        Why Milan, and not, say, Livorno, Lecce, La Spezia or Lucca? After all, the names of all these fine cities in Italy starts with an L, like London, while Milan’s does not.Oct 30 09:13
schestowitz        Of course, I am being tongue-in-cheek here. The real point is that just because some proponents of the UPC would have things a certain way does not mean that the relevant legal provisions enable them to.Oct 30 09:13
schestowitz        Also, would it not be a little odd if the UPC contracting states went ahead with this blatant disregard of the clear letter of a treaty, while at the same time chastising a certain EU member state east of the Oder for allegedly doing the same?Oct 30 09:13
schestowitz        ReplyOct 30 09:13
schestowitz            Patent robotOct 30 09:13
schestowitz            October 29, 2021 at 4:28 pmOct 30 09:13
schestowitz            I was just referring to the sentence “However, interpreting “the United Kingdom” to mean “Italy” does not help to solve the issue with Art. 7(2) UPCA, which instead refers to “London”.” of the article.Oct 30 09:13
schestowitz            It the “authentic interpretation” is so powerful to create the United Kingdom of Italy, then the same interpretation can be applied, even more easily, to art. 7 UPCA, which can be interpreted as such: “The central division shall have its seat and two sections in three cities, each chosen by one of the three MS of art. 89 UPCA”.Oct 30 09:14
schestowitz            As I wrote before, I am stiil convinced that the only solution is to amend the PAP and the UPCA.Oct 30 09:14
schestowitz            P.S.: actually, there is a town called Londa in ItalyOct 30 09:14
schestowitz            ReplyOct 30 09:14
schestowitz    Patent robotOct 30 09:14
schestowitz    October 29, 2021 at 11:41 amOct 30 09:14
schestowitz    After the “dynamic interpretation” and the “authentic interpretation” what next? The “100%-guaranteed interpretation”?Oct 30 09:14
schestowitz    ReplyOct 30 09:14
schestowitz    A mind willing not to defeat the object and purpose of a treaty prior to its entry into forceOct 30 09:14
schestowitz    October 29, 2021 at 8:45 pmOct 30 09:14
schestowitz    Nobody discusses VCLT – Article 18 – Obligation not to defeat the object and purpose of a treaty prior to its entry into forceOct 30 09:14
schestowitz    A State is obliged to refrain from acts which would defeat the object and purpose of a treaty when:Oct 30 09:14
schestowitz    (a) it has signed the treaty or has exchanged instruments constituting the treaty subject to ratification, acceptance or approval, until it shall have made its intention clear not to become a party to the treaty; orOct 30 09:14
schestowitz    (b) it has expressed its consent to be bound by the treaty, pending the entry into force of the treaty and provided that such entry into force is not unduly delayed.Oct 30 09:14
schestowitz    ReplyOct 30 09:14
schestowitz    Francine DELGOFFEOct 30 09:14
schestowitz    October 29, 2021 at 10:12 pmOct 30 09:14
schestowitz    “hence giving him the mandate to organize a signing ceremony of the Declaration”Oct 30 09:14
schestowitz    Democracy at work, none of those delegations have received any mandate from their national parliament.Oct 30 09:14
schestowitz    In CETA, only 3 parliaments over 28 discussed the text.Oct 30 09:14
schestowitz    ReplyOct 30 09:14
schestowitz    A mind willing not to defeat the object and purpose of a treaty prior to its entry into forceOct 30 09:14
schestowitz    October 29, 2021 at 11:46 pmOct 30 09:14
schestowitz    The delegates to the Prep C have the mandate from their state to prepare for the UPC, and that is exactly what they did in my opinion. At the ceremony, the representatives who will sign will have received that power from their state. Parliaments only play a role in ratification/accession when needed, what I would think is not necessary here (I fully realise most of the previous commentators will disagree, that’s it).Oct 30 09:14
schestowitz    All this said, I would agree that the UPCA is as well drafted as the Regulations. The first cases at the UPC (+CJEU) will be interesting.Oct 30 09:14
schestowitz    ReplyOct 30 09:14
schestowitz    Bart van WezenbeekOct 30 09:14
schestowitz    October 30, 2021 at 12:03 amOct 30 09:14
schestowitz    Maybe just a suggestion but why can’t the court be based in London? As far as I know, there was already a court room allocated and I expect that the UK government would not object to hosting a court although they themselves would not be subject to that court (in the same way the Yugoslavia tribunal was hosted by The Netherlands).Oct 30 09:14
schestowitz    This would leave only the difficulties in the PAP and the protocol on privileges, but as argued by MaxDrei in the quoted blogpost: if souvereign States together decide on the interpretation of a legal text, who will contradict them?Oct 30 09:14
schestowitz    ReplyOct 30 09:14
schestowitz    DXThomasOct 30 09:14
schestowitz    October 30, 2021 at 4:10 amOct 30 09:14
schestowitz    Even if might at a pinch possible to bring into force the PPA and PPI with the envisaged trick, the same trick will not work for Art 7(2) UPCA.Oct 30 09:14
schestowitz    Not only the text of it is crystal clear and does not suffer any doubts as to its meaning, but there is not only Italy but also The Netherlands want to get a section.Oct 30 09:14
schestowitz    Do you think really France and Germany will let go pharmacy and chemistry to either Milan or Amsterdam?Oct 30 09:14
schestowitz    The haggling is not only on the location but also about the domain.Oct 30 09:14
schestowitz    It is far from innocent that both have come up with the provisional allocation of the duties to Paris and/or Munich.Oct 30 09:14
schestowitz    An international treaty which has been ratified cannot be simply thrown over board for the satisfaction of private interests. There are rules to be respected and should they not have been respected, the decisions taken by a court in violation of an international treaty can and must be challenged.Oct 30 09:14
schestowitz    Why do the proponents of the UPC do not ask the opinion of the CJEU?Oct 30 09:14
schestowitz    The most probably do not so as the reply could be devastating for their hOct 30 09:15
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Techrights-secI've updated the Gemini capsule based on the text-only rescraping.  PleaseOct 30 11:38
Techrights-secspot check to see what improvements are needed or if anything was missed.Oct 30 11:38
Techrights-secThe process was mostly unattended but took about a week on the calendar,Oct 30 11:38
Techrights-secrunning in the background.  Oct 30 11:38
Techrights-secSee text-only-web-scrape.20061113-20211028.tar.gzOct 30 11:38
Techrights-secThe root partition on Gemini is about 9% over the desired limint at the moment.Oct 30 11:38
Techrights-secSo that file can be deleted if you don't need it.  Oct 30 11:38
Techrights-secI plan to do a more complete HTML-based web scrap later on this season.Oct 30 11:38
Techrights-secWith the parition size, one way would be to plug in a separate, largerOct 30 11:38
Techrights-secdrive into the USB, format it, mount it temporarily, and then rsync,Oct 30 11:38
Techrights-secover the data, then delete the old data and mount the new device in Oct 30 11:38
Techrights-secits place.  That needs a USB storage device and, at the end, mods to /etc/fstabOct 30 11:38
Techrights-secIf you'd rather go with a larger microSD card instad, then that is not tooOct 30 11:38
Techrights-sechard either but will entail some downtime while changes are made.Oct 30 11:38
schestowitz-TROK. first step is, I will free up some spaceOct 30 11:41
schestowitzpi@raspberrypi:/home $ sudo du -sh piOct 30 11:45
schestowitz522M    piOct 30 11:45
schestowitzpi@raspberrypi:/home $ sudo du -sh geminiOct 30 11:45
schestowitz2.1G    geminiOct 30 11:45
schestowitz-TR2.3gb for ipfs stuffOct 30 11:46
Techrights-sec$ df -Ph /Oct 30 11:46
Techrights-secFilesystem      Size  Used Avail Use% Mounted onOct 30 11:46
Techrights-sec/dev/root        12G   10G  1.3G  89% /Oct 30 11:46
Techrights-secIPFS is bigOct 30 11:47
schestowitz-TRbetter than the wolffraMicrosoft crap that came preinstalled with this OSOct 30 11:48
schestowitz-TRalso, the ipfs stuff is softlinked across to geminiOct 30 11:48
Techrights-secRaspberry Pi OS has some questionable decisions behind it, I suppose thatOct 30 11:59
Techrights-secsome of it can be traced in part to quisling within the projectas well asOct 30 11:59
Techrights-secthe one or two microsofters on the board.  Oct 30 11:59
Techrights-secFor what it's worth, Devuan runsOct 30 12:02
Techrights-secfind on the RPi 4.  Oct 30 12:02
schestowitz-TRpsydroid3: can you help with IPFS a bit? In case of downtime?Oct 30 12:03
schestowitz-TRTechrights-sec: check space on pi nowOct 30 12:03
Techrights-secMuch better, but 81% is still heading into the warning zone.  It's  Oct 30 12:07
Techrights-secgood that it's not 90+ %  any more.   Oct 30 12:07
schestowitz-TR78%Oct 30 12:07
Techrights-sec:)Oct 30 12:12
schestowitz-TRsee latest identica/twitter/diaspora postOct 30 12:12
schestowitz-TRRianne uses that crap to access something of a client, London Town Hall, and she uses the pi for firefox when she's on VPNOct 30 12:13
schestowitz-TRcopying the 200mb across to my laptop. Is it "deployed to live" already?Oct 30 12:47
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Techrights-secyesOct 30 12:50
Techrights-secso the tarball can be removed any time at allOct 30 12:50
Techrights-secThe Gemini pages were then generated using the local scripts on site.Oct 30 12:50
Techrights-secs/pages/indexes/Oct 30 12:50
schestowitz-TRI will report is I see any more issues. In theory that file can be deployed elsewhere, as it lacks passwords, unlike databases, and can be used to make mirror.techrights.org etc.Oct 30 12:50
schestowitz-TR*ifOct 30 12:50
schestowitz-TRstress-testing a bit, no issues spotted so farOct 30 12:52
Techrights-secYes, it is very easy to mirror with rsync Oct 30 12:54
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Techrights-secIsn't there any oversite of and accountability in the European Council?Oct 30 16:52
Techrights-secI ask because of the news about the PPI being pounded through despiteOct 30 16:52
Techrights-secnot being eligible for advancement due to the UK being out of the EU:Oct 30 16:52
Techrights-secgemini://gemini.techrights.org/2021/10/29/council-of-the-european-union-upc/Oct 30 16:52
Techrights-secOutside of TR, I have seen no coverage of this fraudulent move.  Oct 30 16:52
Techrights-secs/oversite/oversight/Oct 30 16:52
schestowitz-TRsometimes you wonder if news sites still exist at all? Not Omidyar, Gates, Bezos...Oct 30 16:53
Techrights-secIndeed.Oct 30 16:53
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schestowitzI think we should add https://www.exposedbycmd.org/feed/ Oct 30 21:06
schestowitzCMD helped inspire our wiki over a decade ago, IIRCOct 30 21:07
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schestowitzhttps://nitter.eu/MarkBoslough/status/1454489763000438791Oct 30 21:16
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-nitter.eu | Mark Boslough (@MarkBoslough): "My rebuttal is in press. Flaws: Contradicts physics of airbursts Requires extreme low-probability event Evidence doesn't support hypothesis Authors tampered w evidence History of irreproducible results by authors Riddled with errors Involves creationism " | nitterOct 30 21:16
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/glynmoody/status/1454464340988416000Oct 30 21:17
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@glynmoody: utterly revolting and shameful. #endcapitalpunishment https://t.co/PTejivv2i0Oct 30 21:17
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@schestowitz: ● NEWS ● #CommonDreams ☞ 'A Human Experiment': #JohnMarionGrant Convulsed, Vomited at #Oklahoma #Execution https://t.co/KMMBsOR32AOct 30 21:17
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/bach_peter/status/1454454589336571914Oct 30 21:17
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@bach_peter: @schestowitz Thanks for posting, Roy.Oct 30 21:17
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/fatimajanoub/status/1454441208235892746Oct 30 21:17
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@fatimajanoub: @schestowitz https://t.co/GPtEy4p6GwOct 30 21:17
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schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/H2odges/status/1454433151485362183Oct 30 21:18
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@H2odges: "when USDA inspectors found the strain in raw chicken, more than a quarter of the samples came from Perdue plants" https://t.co/FMp2vSdYqcOct 30 21:18
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@schestowitz: ● NEWS ● #TruthOut #Health #Nutrition ☞ #Food Contaminated With Drug-Resistant #Salmonella Strain Continues to Be S… https://t.co/petVELQtUHOct 30 21:18
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Techrights-secok.  added.  watch the next few days to ensure that the autmated summaries Oct 30 23:52
Techrights-secare correct for that site. Oct 30 23:52
schestowitz-TRthanks!Oct 30 23:52
schestowitz-TRsome interesting discussions in IRC today, tomorrow I need to catch up with 170+ unread news items about patents :/ at least many days off work to catch up...Oct 30 23:56

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