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schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/Flavia0847/status/1266777743808704514May 31 02:53
schestowitz"Sometimes I think there are massive contrivances that pass for, or get 'sold' as, 'happenstances'.  If there is anything that has markedly increased in , and effected change in,  our World, it's advertising."May 31 02:53
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@Flavia0847: Sometimes I think there are massive contrivances that pass for, or get 'sold' as, 'happenstances'. If there is any… https://t.co/y5j2EaOtJeMay 31 02:53
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@Flavia0847: Sometimes I think there are massive contrivances that pass for, or get 'sold' as, 'happenstances'. If there is any… https://t.co/y5j2EaOtJeMay 31 02:53
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/Flavia0847/status/1266762958778089477May 31 02:54
schestowitz"May 31 02:54
schestowitzWho else would want to get out?  Chelsea Manning?  John Walker Lindh? Jonathan Pollard?  May 31 02:54
schestowitzWhaaat?  He is out?May 31 02:54
schestowitz"May 31 02:54
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schestowitzhttps://pleroma.site/notice/9vZrpM29Gu9XoDAXZ2May 31 03:04
schestowitz"...this is down from when obama was in office iirc"May 31 03:04
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-pleroma.site | PleromaMay 31 03:04
schestowitzhttps://pleroma.site/notice/9vZL4SH13cxh19iSDQMay 31 03:04
schestowitz"  They don't want to take action on any sort of content.   Totally irresponsible."May 31 03:04
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-pleroma.site | PleromaMay 31 03:05
schestowitzNo, they contradict themselves when it suits themMay 31 03:05
schestowitzhttps://pleroma.site/notice/9vZI3JBr2lX8h73zloMay 31 03:05
schestowitz"May 31 03:05
schestowitzcan get Mac Micro with this May 31 03:05
schestowitzhttps://raspbian-x.com/May 31 03:05
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-pleroma.site | PleromaMay 31 03:05
schestowitz"May 31 03:05
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-raspbian-x.com | RaspbianXMay 31 03:05
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schestowitz> In 1948, Albert Einstein, Hannah Arendt and other prominent voices composed a scathing open letter in the New York Times, comparing the party that would take over Middle Eastern politics for decades to come to actual, literal Nazis.May 31 04:08
schestowitz> May 31 04:08
schestowitz> This letter pulled no punches, and laid things out exactly how they were. Today, things are still like that-- they are even worse. We know from this letter, the sort of things Einstein might say about the state of the world.May 31 04:08
schestowitz> May 31 04:08
schestowitz>  I am no Einstein, no Hannah Arendt, but is the closest I'm going to come to writing that letter. This one is to the GNU maintainers. I think it's perfectly clear which ones and which parts the scathing disgust is directed at. We were all betrayed-- as was rms. Techrights does not have to agree with this letter. But I welcome Techrights to play the part of the New York Times, in publishing it.May 31 04:08
schestowitz> OSI was founded in 1998, I think. But the "nearly 30 years" bit still fits, because Linux (1991) and because these assholes pretend they invented software collaboration anyway. May 31 04:42
schestowitzYes, it must be compounded. Revisionism to be confronted, too...May 31 04:42
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schestowitz>>>> What do the papers/paperwork say about Linux (C) and (TM)? Is it publicMay 31 07:17
schestowitz>>>> knowledge?May 31 07:17
schestowitz>>> It's been public knowledge for ages:May 31 07:17
schestowitz>>>May 31 07:17
schestowitz>>> https://www.linuxfoundation.org/about/linux-mark/May 31 07:18
schestowitz>>>May 31 07:18
schestowitz>>> https://www.linuxfoundation.org/trademark-usage/May 31 07:18
schestowitz>>>May 31 07:18
schestowitz>>> https://www.linuxfoundation.org/about/linux-mark/May 31 07:18
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-www.linuxfoundation.org | The Linux Mark - The Linux FoundationMay 31 07:18
schestowitz>>>May 31 07:18
schestowitz>>> However, I am not sure how much the pubic knows about that nor how muchMay 31 07:18
schestowitz>>> LF intends to honor the legal situation.  They are busy wiping theirMay 31 07:18
schestowitz>>> collective assess with the GPL, for example.May 31 07:18
schestowitz>>May 31 07:18
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-www.linuxfoundation.org | Trademark Usage Guidelines - The Linux FoundationMay 31 07:18
schestowitz>> I am aware of the above, but I am more interested in copyright assignment.May 31 07:18
schestowitzI assumed there might be something like a CLA, knowing the LF produces crap advocacy to that effect.May 31 07:18
schestowitz> Well, again, just to be clear, the project is continually remindingMay 31 07:18
schestowitz> everyone that the trademarks are his:May 31 07:18
schestowitz> May 31 07:18
schestowitz> https://www.kernel.org/legal.htmlMay 31 07:18
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-www.kernel.org | Legal disclaimers and copyrightMay 31 07:18
schestowitz> May 31 07:18
schestowitz> There would be a fight buy he can take them and go elsewhere.May 31 07:18
schestowitzOnly if developers would follow; nowadays like 80% of the coders are of the 'big tech' cabal. They also have a grip on the media; see RMS...May 31 07:18
schestowitzTorvalds' right hand men are Microsofters...May 31 07:18
schestowitz> The code is different.  It's mostly under the GPL and The copyrights areMay 31 07:18
schestowitz> held by the various contributors.  There is no copyright assignmentMay 31 07:18
schestowitz> requirement.  Some other projects require filling out paperwork toMay 31 07:18
schestowitz> transfer copyright for all contributions.  Linux does not do that andMay 31 07:18
schestowitz> there is not even a mention of it in the developers' guide:May 31 07:18
schestowitz> May 31 07:18
schestowitz> https://www.kernel.org/doc/html/v4.13/process/development-process.htmlMay 31 07:18
schestowitz> May 31 07:18
schestowitz> Though license labeling is covered in detail:May 31 07:18
schestowitz> May 31 07:18
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-www.kernel.org | A guide to the Kernel Development Process — The Linux Kernel documentationMay 31 07:18
schestowitz> https://www.kernel.org/doc/html/v4.18/process/license-rules.htmlMay 31 07:18
schestowitz> May 31 07:18
schestowitz> ??? http://thread.gmane.org/gmane.linux.kernel/475654/focus=475721May 31 07:18
schestowitz> May 31 07:18
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-www.kernel.org | Linux kernel licensing rules — The Linux Kernel documentationMay 31 07:18
schestowitz> However, it's not spelled out.  I presume that is because copyright lawMay 31 07:18
schestowitz> spells it out already.May 31 07:18
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell- ( status 523 @ http://thread.gmane.org/gmane.linux.kernel/475654/focus=475721 )May 31 07:18
schestowitz> May 31 07:18
schestowitz> However, one of the sore points for the detractors get who angry atMay 31 07:18
schestowitz> Linus is his support of the GPL:May 31 07:18
schestowitz> May 31 07:18
schestowitz> https://www.osnews.com/story/16720/non-gpl-linux-kernel-modules-banned-starting-january-2008/May 31 07:19
schestowitz> May 31 07:19
schestowitz> https://www.brainyquote.com/quotes/linus_torvalds_367380May 31 07:19
schestowitz> May 31 07:19
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-www.osnews.com | Non-GPL Linux Kernel Modules Banned Starting January 2008? – OSnewsMay 31 07:19
schestowitz> ???May 31 07:19
schestowitz> https://www.informationweek.com/the-torvalds-transcript-why-i-absolutely-love-gpl-version-2/d/d-id/1053128May 31 07:19
schestowitz> May 31 07:19
schestowitz> Do you have a timeline on the attacks on Linus?  They might match upMay 31 07:19
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-www.brainyquote.com | Linus Torvalds - Making Linux GPL'd was definitely the...May 31 07:19
schestowitz> nicely with various intrigues.May 31 07:19
schestowitzA good first step, I think, would be to date the above lists, add quotes/passages of relevance to them, sort logically/chronologically, laying out things in a way that can be self-explanatory.May 31 07:19
schestowitzSince you already saw the above links and know the text, can you have a go at it?May 31 07:19
schestowitz> May 31 07:19
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-www.informationweek.com | The Torvalds Transcript: Why I 'Absolutely Love' GPL Version 2 - InformationWeekMay 31 07:19
schestowitz> May 31 07:19
schestowitz> dead link:May 31 07:19
schestowitz> https://www.informationweek.com/operating-systems.aspMay 31 07:19
schestowitz> May 31 07:19
schestowitz> ???May 31 07:19
schestowitz> https://stackoverflow.com/questions/736972/non-gpl-kernel-modules-using-gpl-ones/753282#753282May 31 07:19
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-www.informationweek.com | Operating Systems News, Analysis, & Advice - InformationWeekMay 31 07:19
schestowitzinformationweek is defunct.May 31 07:19
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-stackoverflow.com | licensing - Non-GPL kernel modules using GPL ones - Stack OverflowMay 31 07:19
schestowitzCan anything entitled "Recent Shows" in democracynow be omitted for being too generic?May 31 07:34
schestowitzI was also thinking, for meduza, among few other sites, I will write some special substitution at my end. It's getting to the point where s/n ratio is very high now and I get lots of signal from my text editor alone :DMay 31 07:34
schestowitzLunduke's site is dead to me. For a few weeks it was good, then... downhill.May 31 07:34
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schestowitz>> Since you already saw the above links and know the text, can you have aMay 31 08:07
schestowitz>> go at it?May 31 08:07
schestowitz> I can take a partial look at it but can't guarantee anything: the searchMay 31 08:07
schestowitz> engines suck in this area and many articles and magazines are gone, evenMay 31 08:07
schestowitz> from the Internet Archive it seems.May 31 08:07
schestowitzI tried the IA for a Hilf article the other day. No success...May 31 08:07
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schestowitzEPO manages to scare potential sources:May 31 09:27
schestowitz> 3) Our communication is secure (its content anyway), so (2) is unlikely related to the communications. Not impossible, but not likely IMHO.May 31 09:27
schestowitzYes, I believe encryption works.  That's why I'm brave enough to write at all these days.  May 31 09:27
schestowitzThe problem is that it the communications are observed regardless of the contents and the Microsoft people already have their eye on both of us.  May 31 09:27
schestowitzControl Risks has their eye on you.  I imagine they cooperate to neutralize people and we know the Microsoft people thrive on this kind of spying and exposure.May 31 09:27
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schestowitz#deletegithub https://searchsecurity.techtarget.com/news/252483808/Supply-chain-attack-hits-26-open-source-projects-on-GitHub https://www.cyberscoop.com/github-octopus-malware-supply-chain/ https://www.darkreading.com/vulnerabilities---threats/github-supply-chain-attack-uses-octopus-scanner-malware/d/d-id/1337943May 31 10:06
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-searchsecurity.techtarget.com | Supply chain attack hits 26 open source projects on GitHubMay 31 10:06
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-www.cyberscoop.com | How GitHub untangled itself from an 'Octopus' malware that infected 26 projectsMay 31 10:06
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-www.darkreading.com | GitHub Supply Chain Attack Uses Octopus Scanner MalwareMay 31 10:06
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schestowitzToo much fake 'journalism' out there right now; lots of it in sites like #techradar #zdnet etc. Writers being ;assigned' to do #marketing disguised as 'articles'. #corruptmedia #spamMay 31 14:58
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/entubao/status/1267076924762963969May 31 14:58
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@entubao: @schestowitz Ha. Trolled! ;)May 31 14:58
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/AmbyR00/status/1267066978751205379May 31 14:59
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@AmbyR00: @schestowitz I would gladly join an effort to bring St. IGNUcius back if there ever was one. RMS did nothing wrong.May 31 14:59
schestowitzhttp://patentblog.kluweriplaw.com/2020/05/19/actions-against-the-threat-of-patent-infringement/?doing_wp_cron=1590052028.2064480781555175781250May 31 22:32
schestowitz"You seem to happily disregard patent holders who try to enforce patents, which said patent holders know or should know, will not survive a properly conducted invalidity challenge."May 31 22:32
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-patentblog.kluweriplaw.com | Actions Against the Threat of Patent Infringement - Kluwer Patent BlogMay 31 22:32
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