●● IRC: #boycottnovell @ Techrights IRC Network: Wednesday, August 31, 2022 ●● ● Aug 31 [00:01] *psydruid (~psydruid@jevhxkzmtrbww.irc) has left #boycottnovell [00:01] *psydruid (~psydruid@jevhxkzmtrbww.irc) has joined #boycottnovell ● Aug 31 [01:05] schestowitz-TR2 also, in the head, atom/xml should be changed to rss, I think [01:05] schestowitz-TR2 if that was changed to rss 2.0 ● Aug 31 [02:00] *u-amarsh04 has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [02:04] *u-amarsh04 has quit (Connection closed) [02:04] *u-amarsh04 (~amarsh04@5tcc2vuaj9aks.irc) has joined #boycottnovell [02:04] *Noisytoot has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [02:14] *Noisytoot (~noisytoot@tkbibjhmbkvb8.irc) has joined #boycottnovell [02:28] *u-amarsh04 has quit (Quit: Konversation terminated!) [02:40] *u-amarsh04 (~amarsh04@freenode-rmogvn.g0d7.dtdf.mc4289.IP) has joined #boycottnovell [02:40] *u-amarsh04 (~amarsh04@5tcc2vuaj9aks.irc) has joined #boycottnovell ● Aug 31 [05:27] *starstreak has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) ● Aug 31 [06:21] *starstreak (~starstreak@muarsy2vret2q.irc) has joined #boycottnovell ● Aug 31 [07:23] *_Mio14 has quit (Ping timeout: 120 seconds) [07:28] *DaemonFC has quit (Quit: Leaving) ● Aug 31 [08:03] schestowitz-TR2 gm [08:03] schestowitz-TR2 is there work on the server? [08:03] schestowitz-TR2 it says things like connection was lost [08:03] schestowitz-TR2 and then somr recent files (pages) are missing [08:03] schestowitz-TR2 just a minute agomaybe MQTT is timing out? not sure.. [08:11] Techrights-sec gm [08:11] Techrights-sec not at the moment / not for a while [08:11] Techrights-sec checking [08:11] Techrights-sec At least one cert needs updating for MQTT, I must have fat-fingered the date [08:11] Techrights-sec Correct. [08:11] Techrights-sec Cehcking [08:11] Techrights-sec :( [08:11] Techrights-sec MQTT is only used for notification and shouldn't block anything AFAIK [08:11] schestowitz-TR2 I think the mqtt agent has just alrted me about connection issues for git, too [08:11] schestowitz-TR2 the funny thing is that this impacts page generation, too :D [08:24] schestowitz-TR2 I've just scrolled up again, seems at first one page was missing and then another page was missing, but the other was OK [08:24] schestowitz-TR2 the pages are fine in gemini though [08:27] schestowitz-TR2 checking more, seems maybe the temp files/dirs were at fault [08:27] schestowitz-TR2 but that all started to happen after the MQTT issue [08:29] chunky i wanna suck off a guy [08:33] schestowitz-TR2 trolling here, too? [08:38] Techrights-sec How long should the client certs be good for? The last batch were set [08:38] Techrights-sec to expire yesterday, which was fine for a test period but the next batch [08:38] Techrights-sec of client certificates should be for longer. [08:38] schestowitz-TR2 maybe 3 years? don't know... [08:39] Techrights-sec Ok [08:39] Techrights-sec I'm just concerned that if they are open-ended they can get loose. [08:39] Techrights-sec However, if they expire frequently, it is a big pain. [08:39] Techrights-sec Yet, if they expire infrequently, it might be harder to deal with, maybe [08:39] Techrights-sec even forgetting the situation / notes completely by then. [08:43] schestowitz__[TR] atm the only missing page, which updating does not re-create, is http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022-08-31T06:58/Games_Victoria_3_Steam_Deck_Necrosmith_and_Morwe.shtml [08:43] -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell- ( status 404 @ http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022-08-31T06:58/Games_Victoria_3_Steam_Deck_Necrosmith_and_Morwe.shtml ) [08:44] schestowitz-TR2 you can see from the URL what goes wrong or went wrong [08:44] schestowitz-TR2 the date part [08:46] schestowitz-TR2 oh, I see, the correct page too links to a bad today's howto URL [08:46] schestowitz-TR2 so my guess is, new pages are created which create wrong navigation links [08:52] Techrights-sec checking the links first now [08:52] Techrights-sec The generator should have produced a better error when I ran the test :/ [08:52] schestowitz-TR2 gym biab ● Aug 31 [09:15] *starstreak has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [09:33] Techrights-sec ack [09:33] Techrights-sec Ok the date error is fixed. [09:33] Techrights-sec Thanks for spotting it and sorry it slipped through the tests here. [09:33] Techrights-sec Looking at OpenSSL in a bit [09:35] schestowitz-TR2 back now [09:35] schestowitz-TR2 thanks for correcting the bug! [09:35] schestowitz-TR2 i spent about 3 hours last night trying to improve frontpage mockup (and mobile) [09:35] schestowitz-TR2 the one running on tuxmachines-old [09:38] schestowitz-TR2 rianne's exam is this afternoon [09:38] schestowitz-TR2 meanwhile I took note of things to do today, it seems like very slow news, rianne is suprised by this and we checked if there's some US holiday [09:38] schestowitz-TR2 *surprosed [09:38] schestowitz-TR2 tuxmachines still yields about 50 pages/day, the granularity changes a bit [09:45] Techrights-sec Again, I hope she does very well on the exam. [09:45] Techrights-sec I agree the news has slowed down again quite a bit. For quite a few years now, [09:45] Techrights-sec it never bounes back from holidays of any kind. Now with the end of summer in [09:45] Techrights-sec the northern hemisphere, it has gone down even further. Perhaps the budgets for [09:45] Techrights-sec the autumn have been cut again. [09:46] schestowitz-TR2 I wrote 4 or 5 posts about LF yesterday [09:47] schestowitz-TR2 I hope you saw them [09:47] schestowitz-TR2 one mentions the fate of linux.com [09:47] schestowitz-TR2 based on IRS files from the year all people got fired except maybe spamnil [09:47] schestowitz-TR2 and sheela "left" [09:47] schestowitz-TR2 as I expected [09:47] schestowitz-TR2 I only found out because I checked to see if jimbo still claims to speak "Japanese" [09:47] schestowitz-TR2 he is walking on glass, maybe he will also delete all his linkedin posts next [09:47] Techrights-sec Yes, I saw. Perhaps there is only a shell left. [09:49] schestowitz-TR2 meanwhile the guy they hired to run linux.com has been mia for a month [09:49] schestowitz-TR2 and i expect 2021 had further decreases in revenue [09:49] schestowitz-TR2 to the point where such salaries are untenable [09:49] schestowitz-TR2 they pay many sites like itsfoss and fofssofrce to shill the diploma mills [09:49] schestowitz-TR2 zdenet also [09:49] schestowitz-TR2 itsfoss even post this shit to tm [09:49] schestowitz-TR2 i unpublished it immediately [09:49] schestowitz-TR2 we have a "no spam/scam" policy [09:59] Techrights-sec ack ● Aug 31 [10:07] schestowitz-TR2 in the past 4 items in TM RSS feed you can see the funny chars where slanted quotes were (in HTML) [10:07] schestowitz-TR2 maybe a filter for charset is needed for shlomi fish's module in order for it to cope with incompatibilities in data passage [10:07] schestowitz-TR2 aside from that, in git the part that says atm needs changing to rss to better inform the client/browser that it is RSS/RDF [10:07] schestowitz-TR2 that links to "purl" -- I assume he maintains some other specs/schema that may change over time [10:07] schestowitz-TR2 I remember that when the netscape site got "renovated" it broke a lot of things to many people [10:16] Techrights-sec ack [10:19] schestowitz__[TR] http://tuxmachines.org/ frontpage.php [10:19] -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-news.tuxmachines.org | Tux Machines [10:19] schestowitz__[TR] just a mockup for now [10:19] schestowitz__[TR] remove spaces [10:20] schestowitz__[TR] now a real url except for test [10:20] schestowitz__[TR] i use php to separate updates from new items [10:20] schestowitz__[TR] the mobile mockup is less busy [10:20] schestowitz__[TR] it's in git, both of them [10:21] schestowitz-TR2 *not a "real" url [10:23] schestowitz-TR2 TM would be best off focusing on the DATA, not www. gemini, mqtt, rss, atom, rss-generated pages (more so than the old site, which also did this to an extent) [10:23] schestowitz-TR2 so it is about the content rather than presentation, with some sorts of apis and hooks [10:30] Techrights-sec ack [10:46] Techrights-sec ok check the feed now, it should be ok even with & and stuff like smartquotes [10:46] Techrights-sec The data in the database is ok; With the exception of the date format today, [10:46] Techrights-sec the problem has been extracting it in light of the quirks of various modules. [10:46] Techrights-sec and standards. [10:46] schestowitz-TR2 fixed :) :) ● Aug 31 [11:02] schestowitz-TR2 rianne has just 'complained' again that there is "zero news" in her feeds [11:02] schestowitz-TR2 I asked if literally zero (technical issues) [11:02] schestowitz-TR2 she said, no [11:02] schestowitz-TR2 just totally nothing interesting [11:02] schestowitz-TR2 so we'll need to dive deep and get creative today [11:02] schestowitz-TR2 this is the second day in a row she says that [11:02] schestowitz-TR2 and marius is not publishing much either [11:02] schestowitz-TR2 phoronix is running AMD brochures and picking totally meaningless commits to comment on [11:04] schestowitz-TR2 people still work [11:04] schestowitz-TR2 developers still develop [11:04] schestowitz-TR2 news is happening [11:04] schestowitz-TR2 stuff happens [11:04] schestowitz-TR2 the issue is, not many are left to report on it [11:04] schestowitz-TR2 so this is an investment problem [11:04] schestowitz-TR2 there could be 10,000 articles about EPO in "the mews" or "media" this past decade [11:04] schestowitz-TR2 this past year the number was like one dozen [11:04] schestowitz-TR2 mostly paid-for puff pieces like EIA [11:20] schestowitz__[TR] Record added [11:20] schestowitz__[TR] Creating temporary directories and files [11:20] schestowitz__[TR] Creating static XHTML and GemText hierarchies [11:20] schestowitz__[TR] Date::Calc::PP::Date_to_Time(): Date::Calc::Date_to_Time(): date out of range at /usr/local/bin/tm-extract-posts-sql.pl line 873 [11:20] schestowitz__[TR] Updating SSI files [11:20] schestowitz__[TR] Could not validate '20220831T10:19' [11:20] schestowitz__[TR] Issuing rollback() due to DESTROY without explicit disconnect() of DBD::SQLite::db handle dbname=/var/www/tuxmachines.org/db/tm-static-site-generator.sqlite3. [11:20] schestowitz__[TR] Writing the RSS feed for HTTP [11:20] schestowitz__[TR] Could not validate '20220831T10:19' [11:20] schestowitz__[TR] Issuing rollback() due to DESTROY without explicit disconnect() of DBD::SQLite::db handle dbname=/var/www/tuxmachines.org/db/tm-static-site-generator.sqlite3. [11:20] schestowitz__[TR] Writing the Atom feed for Gemini [11:20] schestowitz__[TR] Could not validate '20220831T10:19' [11:20] schestowitz__[TR] Issuing rollback() due to DESTROY without explicit disconnect() of DBD::SQLite::db handle dbname=/var/www/tuxmachines.org/db/tm-static-site-generator.sqlite3. [11:20] schestowitz__[TR] Writing the Gemini index [11:20] schestowitz__[TR] Could not validate '20220831T10:19' [11:20] schestowitz__[TR] Issuing rollback() due to DESTROY without explicit disconnect() of DBD::SQLite::db handle dbname=/var/www/tuxmachines.org/db/tm-static-site-generator.sqlite3. [11:20] schestowitz__[TR] Pinging via MQTT [11:20] schestowitz__[TR] Error: Problem setting TLS options: File not found. [11:20] schestowitz__[TR] Erasing temporary directories and their files. [11:30] schestowitz-TR2 curiously enough the page before that, "Tor and Security", was added without any problems [11:44] schestowitz__[TR] Metadata: [11:44] schestowitz__[TR] Date: [2022-08-31T10:18] Linux and WWW: Ports, RSS, JS, and CSS [11:44] schestowitz__[TR] Invalid date 'Linux and WWW: Ports, RSS, JS, and CSS' [11:44] schestowitz__[TR] Date: [11:44] schestowitz__[TR] Date: [20220831T10:19] [11:44] schestowitz__[TR] Author: [Roy Schestowitz] [11:44] schestowitz__[TR] Title: Linux and WWW: Ports, RSS, JS, and CSS [11:45] Techrights-sec checking [11:47] Techrights-sec the buffer is too short, can you show the beginnig of that paste again? [11:47] schestowitz-TR2 after scrolling up a bit, I thinkt he date format upon suggestion (rianne too make these errors sometimes) is missing the "-" [11:53] *psydruid (~psydruid@jevhxkzmtrbww.irc) has left #boycottnovell ● Aug 31 [12:01] schestowitz-TR2 I entered title into date [12:01] schestowitz-TR2 it corrected me with 20220831T10:19 [12:01] schestowitz-TR2 not 2022-08-31T10:18 [12:01] schestowitz-TR2 I didn't tamper or manualyl enter a date [12:01] schestowitz-TR2 it was suggested to me and I pressed ENTER [12:01] schestowitz-TR2 as I did many times before [12:02] Techrights-sec thanks, checking [12:02] Techrights-sec I'm not sure how that one occured since the one a few minute earlier had [12:02] Techrights-sec been ok. yes [12:02] Techrights-sec Oh! The date was entered manually? [12:02] Techrights-sec I forgot that was there. I suppose we should leave it but better date validation is needed there in the add script. [12:05] Techrights-sec oh, I'll fix that [12:05] Techrights-sec interesting [12:06] schestowitz-TR2 I edited the latst page to enter a correct title [12:06] schestowitz-TR2 it did create ther page again, the script hangs after Ceating static... hierarchies [12:10] Techrights-sec thanks for spotting that [12:10] Techrights-sec can you try the same process now? [12:10] Techrights-sec thanks again for spotti [12:10] Techrights-sec thanks for spotting that [12:10] Techrights-sec can you try the same process now? [12:10] Techrights-sec thanks again for spotting that [12:10] Techrights-sec ng that [12:11] Techrights-sec thanks for spotting that [12:11] Techrights-sec can you try the same process now? [12:11] Techrights-sec thanks again for spotting that [12:11] schestowitz-TR2 lovely. Worked perfectly this time around [12:11] schestowitz-TR2 I will add 3 pages in a row now [12:11] schestowitz-TR2 been cuffering them [12:11] schestowitz-TR2 that'll help validate any new changes [12:40] *psydruid (~psydruid@jevhxkzmtrbww.irc) has joined #boycottnovell ● Aug 31 [13:56] *Mio14 (~quassel@freenode-h6g.f2o.hhk3ii.IP) has joined #boycottnovell ● Aug 31 [14:04] *Mio14 has quit (Ping timeout: 120 seconds) [14:04] *Mio14 (~quassel@freenode-h6g.f2o.hhk3ii.IP) has joined #boycottnovell [14:12] *Mio14 has quit (Ping timeout: 120 seconds) [14:13] *Mio14 (~quassel@freenode-vcl.pdm.odb5mq.IP) has joined #boycottnovell [14:23] schestowitz-TR2 0/ [14:23] schestowitz-TR2 messing about some more with frontpage.php [14:23] schestowitz-TR2 the one missing image is due to a filename with a space in it, causing problems for xargs [14:23] schestowitz-TR2 if I download such files I really should rename them [14:37] *psydruid (~psydruid@jevhxkzmtrbww.irc) has left #boycottnovell ● Aug 31 [15:09] Techrights-sec xargs --null and feed that with -print0 or whatever option is needed to [15:09] Techrights-sec have null-delimitd output for xargs [15:11] schestowitz-TR2 yes, but the problem in this case was different [15:11] schestowitz-TR2 atm it is a cronjob under "roy" [15:11] schestowitz-TR2 ot: I foolishly forgot that ddos protection swaps htaccess files [15:11] schestowitz-TR2 so I zapped all the redictions this morning when I ran ddos protection (needed to) [15:11] schestowitz-TR2 but no big deal, I still have the script I made for these rules and I need to improve these redictions anyway [15:11] schestowitz-TR2 then I need to deposit these changes aside, didn't forsee the file being ovewritten [15:18] Techrights-sec ack [15:24] schestowitz-TR2 ok, I've tested all the "missing" pages and they redirect OK to static [15:24] schestowitz-TR2 the "old" site still does about 3 hits/sec [15:24] schestowitz-TR2 it's a very old site [15:24] schestowitz-TR2 some of that traffic is bots [15:24] schestowitz-TR2 reminds me we need more navigation to reach old pages [15:24] schestowitz-TR2 and now everything is there, with 2 months' nodes all going to the new site OK [15:24] schestowitz-TR2 I've added a broader wilfcord for the RSS feed [15:24] schestowitz-TR2 *wildcard [15:24] schestowitz-TR2 so anything that looks like feed request goes to the active feed [15:24] schestowitz-TR2 now, regarding front page, or anything near top level, I want to do some more work before planting the php file [15:24] schestowitz-TR2 maybe tuxmachines.org/index to make it consistent with techrights? [15:27] Techrights-sec ack [15:27] Techrights-sec with the actual PHP parts removed I hope ... [15:27] Techrights-sec Though biased, I prefer the simpler layout a lot and would like to avoid [15:27] Techrights-sec geocitiesing it up too much. Maybe a page below the main page could have [15:27] Techrights-sec more options and details. Also, it is (IMO) important to try to keep it [15:27] Techrights-sec so that visually it reminds of the old layout. [15:27] *psydruid (~psydruid@jevhxkzmtrbww.irc) has joined #boycottnovell [15:29] schestowitz-TR2 I've just noticed that the new rss feed does not, unlike before, have author shown [15:29] schestowitz-TR2 this is not really a problem, just a difference [15:29] schestowitz-TR2 the php file would go on the old server, being a sort of umbrella [15:38] Techrights-sec RSS 2, or at least the W3C validator, requires an e-mail address for author [15:38] Techrights-sec instead of a name. I can set it so it does publish author but then it won't [15:38] Techrights-sec validate. [15:38] Techrights-sec https://www.rssboard.org/rss-specification [15:38] Techrights-sec https://www.rssboard.org/rss-specification#ltauthorgtSubelementOfLtitemgt [15:38] -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-www.rssboard.org | RSS 2.0 Specification (version 2.0.11) [15:38] -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-www.rssboard.org | RSS 2.0 Specification (version 2.0.11) [15:38] Techrights-sec The spec seems to say specifically as an e-mail address. I think that's [15:38] Techrights-sec a stupid decision on their part. Another option might be to use the [15:38] Techrights-sec Dublin Core namespace and put the string in dc.creator or dc.contributor [15:38] Techrights-sec However, even though the spec supports it, the module's support of [15:38] Techrights-sec namespaces is in question still. [15:40] schestowitz-TR2 very interesting, I did not know that and it does sound dumb [15:40] schestowitz-TR2 comparing to RSS at TR.... [15:40] schestowitz-TR2 techrights uses [15:40] schestowitz-TR2 <|[CDATA[name...]]> [15:40] schestowitz-TR2 [15:43] *Mio14 has quit (Ping timeout: 120 seconds) [15:48] Techrights-sec [15:48] Techrights-sec namespaces is in question still. [15:48] Techrights-sec Yes, the question is how to shoehorn it into the RSS 2.0 object as managed [15:48] Techrights-sec by the XML::RSS module. [15:50] schestowitz-TR2 if it cannot be done easily, doesn't matter much [15:50] schestowitz-TR2 it's just somsething I happened to notice are rectifying the absent redirects [15:50] schestowitz-TR2 which maybe lasted about3 hours (before I noticed due to netsurf throwing a warning) [15:50] schestowitz-TR2 I'm going to back up .htaccess and also put it in the ddos protection thing, which is rarely [15:50] schestowitz-TR2 needed anymore because the load of the site is lower ● Aug 31 [16:07] schestowitz-TR2 ok, .htaccess.normal is now same as .htaccess [16:07] schestowitz-TR2 so it won't wipe wha's there [16:07] schestowitz-TR2 also, I made another copy of iut [16:07] schestowitz-TR2 will do a few sanity checks, then get some rest [16:07] schestowitz-TR2 rianne will be back soon (no results today) [16:16] Techrights-sec I hope the test went well today. [16:51] schestowitz-TR2 decided to stay up until afetr she arrives/returns [16:51] schestowitz-TR2 impolite to be in bed when she has news [16:51] schestowitz-TR2 I've just posted two things about today's covid-19 numbers [16:51] schestowitz-TR2 I'll try to think how to better expand TM "content" to more protocols etc. [16:51] schestowitz-TR2 the www is not doing well [16:51] schestowitz-TR2 I grew up with the web [16:51] schestowitz-TR2 it won't die overnight [16:51] schestowitz-TR2 but it's impossible to dent it is langusishing and moreover it seems clear that even the "giants" are a lot of bots [16:51] schestowitz-TR2 spwmnil's youtube channel is llike 9% vclickbots now [16:51] schestowitz-TR2 and youtube exec resigns, twitter fights a wber ands musk [16:51] schestowitz-TR2 fb down from almost 400 dollars to 150... and it deserves to be no more than $40 [16:51] schestowitz-TR2 waiting until the ship drowns is deja vu [16:51] schestowitz-TR2 also wishful thinking [16:51] schestowitz-TR2 it's like developing olpc xo in 2022 [16:51] schestowitz-TR2 or clinging onto TDE, trinity [16:51] schestowitz-TR2 *95% clickbots I meant [16:51] schestowitz-TR2 not 9 [16:51] schestowitz-TR2 big typo [16:51] schestowitz-TR2 he's probably not alone, but it takes work to be able to prove it [16:51] schestowitz-TR2 gulag has long sold adsense to companies that just saw their credits falling with no traffic or sales [16:51] schestowitz-TR2 FB does the same [16:51] Techrights-sec ack [16:51] schestowitz-TR2 the "adtech" industry is mostly a fraud [16:51] schestowitz-TR2 many now fold [16:51] Techrights-sec ack [16:56] schestowitz-TR2 Th difference bwteen all those botfarms and clickfarms is how they market it or lie to shareholders [16:56] schestowitz-TR2 IMHO [16:56] schestowitz-TR2 sure, some have more traffic (or both) than others [16:56] schestowitz-TR2 but all of them seem to be lying to shareholders by an order of magnitude at times [16:56] schestowitz-TR2 I'm very sure youtube loses money [16:56] schestowitz-TR2 same for azure and other things [16:56] schestowitz-TR2 depending on what they actually want to count to mislead you [16:56] schestowitz-TR2 github is a massive loss [16:56] schestowitz-TR2 but they perceive the power it gives them as something they can one day "cash in " on [16:56] schestowitz-TR2 each time they try to piss people off [16:56] schestowitz-TR2 we live in a world full of bakkt [16:56] schestowitz-TR2 but nobody is daring enough to shout from the crowd that the emperor of "naked" [16:56] schestowitz-TR2 *is ● Aug 31 [17:08] schestowitz-TR2 Mary Jo Foley has just written a BS piece trying to blame "Ubuntu" for Azure (Microsoft) issues [17:12] Techrights-sec Not a surprise. Azure is full of security holes, in addition to unreasonably [17:12] Techrights-sec high operating costs and poor performance. They'll continue their decades long [17:12] Techrights-sec tactic of blaming "Linux people" for all their problems [17:12] Techrights-sec For a while that was their go-to excuse for getting cracked or defaced. [17:22] schestowitz-TR2 I've just quoted you in TM about mj foley [17:23] Techrights-sec ack [17:23] Techrights-sec I wouldn't consider myself an authority on anything though, just some noise here [17:25] schestowitz-TR2 Microsoft is never at fault [17:25] schestowitz-TR2 it's the users [17:25] schestowitz-TR2 the crackers [17:25] schestowitz-TR2 the media [17:25] schestowitz-TR2 etc etc. [17:25] schestowitz-TR2 nation states [17:25] schestowitz-TR2 third parties [17:25] schestowitz-TR2 old devices with "bad" drivers [17:25] schestowitz-TR2 that Microsoft won't support [17:25] schestowitz-TR2 opr brok [17:26] schestowitz-TR2 there used to be a joke about "google 'microsoft blames'" [17:26] Techrights-sec not to mention there was an intractable dependency hell for all Windows drivers [17:26] Techrights-sec There was no apparent versioning and newer programs could overwrite existing [17:26] Techrights-sec drivers with /older/ versions, causing huge problems. [17:31] Techrights-sec Any amount of money to buy name-dropping used to be a firing offence. [17:42] Techrights-sec checking [17:42] Techrights-sec not finding Devuan there but there was a link to /another/ M$ Azure outage [17:42] psydruid "Microsoft Azure has no layoffs" "Bloomberg says it's only 1%" "All Windows is unstable? Even at people's homes and in businesses?" [17:42] schestowitz-TR2 this was mrntioned in a headline in Daily Links and a long batch in TM eysterday [17:42] psydruid You have to have an innate ability to be a liar if you are a Microsoft apologist [17:42] schestowitz-TR2 psydruid: maybe Dina Bss [17:43] schestowitz-TR2 Microsoft's mole in there [17:43] schestowitz-TR2 *Bass [17:43] psydruid I called them out on it [17:43] psydruid Downvoted to oblivion and character assassination [17:44] psydruid And everything I wrote is wrong, of course [17:45] psydruid I don't know how countries and businesses in them even consider Microsoft in any way suitable to run their operations [17:45] Techrights-sec MX Linux ships with systemd :/ [17:45] Techrights-sec it is not a viable substitute for Devuan [17:45] Techrights-sec Their page also lies about the nature of systemd, incorrectly describing it [17:45] Techrights-sec as an init system. [17:45] Techrights-sec ^MX [17:46] schestowitz-TR2 psydruid: join the club [17:46] schestowitz-TR2 been on this boat since a student [17:50] schestowitz-TR2 psydruid: they can isdolate and intimidate few [17:50] schestowitz-TR2 to keep the rest silent [17:50] schestowitz-TR2 but if enough of us speak out, they will run away [17:51] schestowitz-TR2 or if you present strong proof [17:51] schestowitz-TR2 like police files [17:51] schestowitz-TR2 or IRS material [17:51] schestowitz-TR2 then they start name-calling like "you're crazy" [17:51] schestowitz-TR2 "you are hateful".. [17:51] schestowitz-TR2 and mjg59_ will claim in shitter.com that you support something rape... [17:52] schestowitz-TR2 "everyone!!! don't listen to him, he's obviously some rapist.." [17:57] schestowitz-TR2 rianne celebrated in a number of ay [17:57] schestowitz-TR2 the exam was a breeze and ended early [17:57] schestowitz-TR2 she was last for the day [17:57] schestowitz-TR2 the next exam is even easier and she might get perfect score (like in some mockups) [17:57] schestowitz-TR2 she doesn't need gsoc/outreachy and crap like this, she is naturally smart [17:57] schestowitz-TR2 *not mockups, mock exams ● Aug 31 [18:00] Techrights-sec Nice [18:01] schestowitz-TR2 bbiab [18:01] schestowitz-TR2 break [18:01] schestowitz-TR2 happy here [18:03] Techrights-sec ack [18:22] *starstreak (~starstreak@muarsy2vret2q.irc) has joined #boycottnovell [18:48] *psydroid2 (~psydroid@memzbmehf99re.irc) has joined #boycottnovell ● Aug 31 [19:04] *starstreak has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [19:06] *starstreak (~starstreak@muarsy2vret2q.irc) has joined #boycottnovell ● Aug 31 [20:34] *DaemonFC (~daemonfc@xa2fqta5tehuc.irc) has joined #boycottnovell ● Aug 31 [21:18] *Mio14 (~quassel@freenode-2ii.mpn.d1vbik.IP) has joined #boycottnovell ● Aug 31 [22:06] *psydruid has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [22:06] *psydroid2 has quit (connection closed) [22:20] *psydruid (~psydruid@jevhxkzmtrbww.irc) has joined #boycottnovell [22:27] *starstreak has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) ● Aug 31 [23:10] *starstreak (~starstreak@muarsy2vret2q.irc) has joined #boycottnovell [23:54] schestowitz-TR2 tuxmachines has about 200 rss feeds [23:54] schestowitz-TR2 for forums, blogs, topics... [23:54] schestowitz-TR2 I've just redirected all those feeds to the active feed [23:54] schestowitz-TR2 as all those old feeds are basically stale and won't yield anything [23:54] schestowitz-TR2 in the url structure you can see the referring url request after ?