●● IRC: #boycottnovell-social and #techpol @ Techrights IRC Network: Tuesday, September 21, 2021 ●● ● Sep 21 [00:12] *psymin has quit (Quit: Leaving) [00:50] *techrights_guest|29 (~519aac55@54n9xgft8g6u2.irc) has joined #boycottnovell-social [00:50] techrights-news #freenode the Web site is down. The end of Freenode? Dead within 4 months of ship-jumping? [00:50] techrights-news "What wed do if we were in charge of the Linux desktop, first impressions of an unusual but frustrating distro, and your feedback about Mastodon and Bodhi Linux." https://latenightlinux.com/late-night-linux-episode-143/ [00:50] -TechrightsSocial/#boycottnovell-social-latenightlinux.com | Late Night Linux Episode 143 Late Night Linux [00:51] techrights-news "hosts discuss topics including the JARL Hamfest, AMSAT events going virtual, JOTA and JOTI, vulnerabilities in OpenSSL, updates to the Linux kernel, Pat, Winlink, HAMRS and much more." https://lhspodcast.info/2021/09/lhs-episode-430-bag-of-hammers-2/ [00:51] -TechrightsSocial/#boycottnovell-social-lhspodcast.info | LHS Episode #430: Bag of Hammers | Linux in the Ham Shack [00:52] techrights-news "In this video, I am going to show how to install# KaliLinux 2021.3" https://yewtu.be/watch?v=uPW_Y-9ukNY [00:52] -TechrightsSocial/#boycottnovell-social-yewtu.be | How to install Kali Linux 2021.3 - Invidious [00:53] techrights-news Cars have become vessels of mass #surveillance https://mashable.com/article/privacy-please-what-data-do-modern-cars-collect also see http://techrights.org/2021/07/03/proprietary-software-inside-cars/ and http://techrights.org/2021/07/06/automobile-privacy-tax/ [00:53] -TechrightsSocial/#boycottnovell-social-mashable.com | Your car knows too much about you. That could be a privacy nightmare. [00:53] -TechrightsSocial/#boycottnovell-social-techrights.org | The Unexplored or Scarcely Explored Ethical Problems With Modern Cars Containing Proprietary Software That Drivers Cannot Remove/Replace | Techrights [00:53] -TechrightsSocial/#boycottnovell-social-techrights.org | Todays Cars Have a Privacy Tax | Techrights [00:54] techrights-news Spamnil now doing puff piece 'interviews' for #microsoft ... he did not just sell out, he is actively undermining #freesw for personal gain [00:58] techrights-news Creating Partitions In Linux Using fdisk (and other tools) - Invidious https://yewtu.be/watch?v=LPYfoFSXB9A #video #gnu #linux [00:58] -TechrightsSocial/#boycottnovell-social-yewtu.be | Creating Partitions In Linux Using fdisk (and other tools) - Invidious [00:59] techrights-news #patent #litigation #spam ; we're meant to think that one person moving from one company to another is important news https://www.juve-patent.com/news-and-stories/people-and-business/pinsent-masons-hires-former-freshfields-counsel-as-london-partner/ #juvapatent spam http://techrights.org/wiki/index.php/Juve [00:59] -TechrightsSocial/#boycottnovell-social-www.juve-patent.com | Pinsent Masons hires former Freshfields counsel as London partner - JUVE Patent [00:59] -TechrightsSocial/#boycottnovell-social-techrights.org | Juve - Techrights ● Sep 21 [01:00] techrights-news " #IBM is standing outside the caf, in the rain, with its nose pressed up against the window. [...] IBMs lunch is a SH-T sandwich!!! [...] Nobody wants IBM's lunch. We're all just eating leftovers from the '70s. [...] Isnt EVERYBODY eating IBMs lunch?" https://www.thelayoff.com/t/1cVP6I2a#replies [01:00] -TechrightsSocial/#boycottnovell-social-www.thelayoff.com | Who is eating IBM's lunch? - post regarding IBM layoffs [01:01] techrights-news Richard Stallmans Talk in #Ukraine Two Days Ago (in Person) http://techrights.org/2021/09/20/richard-stallmans-talk-in-ukraine-two-days-ago-in-person/ #rms #gnu #freesw [01:01] -TechrightsSocial/#boycottnovell-social-techrights.org | Richard Stallmans Talk in Ukraine Two Days Ago (in Person) | Techrights [01:04] techrights-news Discussion about intentionally keeping Gemini very simple https://lists.orbitalfox.eu/archives/gemini/2021/007154.html #GeminiProtocol #GeminiSpace #Internet [01:04] -TechrightsSocial/#boycottnovell-social-lists.orbitalfox.eu | [discussion] Interesting uses [01:05] techrights-news "Daniel Sockwell had a very busy week, asking all sorts of questions (1) (2), looking to improve the documentation on list assignments and soliciting feedback about that." https://rakudoweekly.blog/2021/09/20/2021-38-questions-ideas-feedback/ [01:05] -TechrightsSocial/#boycottnovell-social-rakudoweekly.blog | 2021.38 Questions, Ideas, Feedback Rakudo Weekly News [01:06] techrights-news Mostly #greenwashing as nothing bears a real forest; these urban 'gardens' are minuscule https://hackaday.com/2021/09/20/green-roofs-could-help-improve-solar-panel-efficiency/ [01:06] -TechrightsSocial/#boycottnovell-social-Green Roofs Could Help Improve Solar Panel Efficiency | Hackaday [01:07] techrights-news Teaching by filling in knowledge gaps https://jvns.ca/blog/2021/09/20/teaching-by-filling-in-knowledge-gaps/ #jvns [01:07] -TechrightsSocial/#boycottnovell-social-jvns.ca | Teaching by filling in knowledge gaps [01:09] techrights-news #Arduino project https://blog.arduino.cc/2021/09/20/zom-b-gone-is-an-artificial-sunrise-lamp-to-combat-morning-grumpiness/ [01:09] -TechrightsSocial/#boycottnovell-social-blog.arduino.cc | Zom-B-Gone! is an artificial sunrise lamp to combat morning grumpiness | Arduino Blog [01:13] techrights-news Another #raspi project https://hackaday.com/2021/09/20/drunk-wall-clock-uses-convoluted-circuits-to-display-time/ [01:13] -TechrightsSocial/#boycottnovell-social-Drunk Wall Clock Uses Convoluted Circuits To Display Time | Hackaday [01:14] techrights-news #mozilla talks about #spyware without mentioning what it has turned #firefox into https://blog.mozilla.org/en/internet-culture/mozilla-explains/find-and-remove-spyware/ [01:14] -TechrightsSocial/#boycottnovell-social-blog.mozilla.org | Did you hear about Apples security vulnerability? Heres how to find and remove spyware. [01:16] techrights-news This Sketchy Company is Buying up VPNs - #Surveillance Report 55 - YouTube https://youtu.be/GC9C4NPwKmg?t=595 [01:16] -TechrightsSocial/#boycottnovell-social-This Sketchy Company is Buying up VPNs - Surveillance Report 55 - YouTube [01:19] techrights-news LPC took money from rogue entities like #facebook and #microsoft (just like LF). Compromised. https://www.linuxplumbersconf.org/blog/2021/index.php/2021/09/20/welcome-to-lpc-2021-registration-closed/ [01:19] -TechrightsSocial/#boycottnovell-social-www.linuxplumbersconf.org | Welcome to LPC 2021 Registration Closed Linux Plumbers Conference 2021 [01:20] techrights-news "Supermarket shelves are empty in the UK because decades of union-busting and letting employers work drivers into the ground have made the life of a driver unlivable." https://stallman.org/archives/2021-jul-oct.html#20_September_2021_%28Shelves_empty%29 [01:20] -TechrightsSocial/#boycottnovell-social-stallman.org | 2021: July - October Political Notes - Richard Stallman [01:20] techrights-news "Even after vaccination, it is still possible to both catch and spread this virus. Fortunately having been vaccinated my resulting illness was (statistically) less bad than it would otherwise have been." https://blog.koipond.org.uk/archives/310 [01:20] -TechrightsSocial/#boycottnovell-social-blog.koipond.org.uk | COVID-19 Koipond [01:22] techrights-news Becoming a clown of #google https://fale.io/blog/2021/09/20/google-professional-cloud-architect all those certs are BS: http://techrights.org/2020/06/10/the-bezos-leaning-ploy/ [01:22] -TechrightsSocial/#boycottnovell-social-fale.io | NO TITLE [01:22] -TechrightsSocial/#boycottnovell-social-techrights.org | AWS is Not GNU/Linux and AWS Certification is a Bezos-Leaning Ploy That Rewards People for Memorising Proprietary Interfaces (Vendor Lock-in) | Techrights [01:25] techrights-news #gThumb 3.12.0 Released! #HowTo Install via PPA in Ubuntu 20.04 http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/155864 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines [01:25] -TechrightsSocial/#boycottnovell-social-www.tuxmachines.org | gThumb 3.12.0 Released! How to Install via PPA in Ubuntu 20.04 | Tux Machines [01:28] techrights-news #Emmabunts Debian Edition 4 1.00 Officially Released, Based on Debian GNU/Linux 11 Bullseye http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/155863 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines [01:28] -TechrightsSocial/#boycottnovell-social-www.tuxmachines.org | Emmabunts Debian Edition 4 1.00 Officially Released, Based on Debian GNU/Linux 11 Bullseye | Tux Machines [01:30] techrights-news #NVIDIA 470.74 for Linux is out fixing up memory usage for Direct3D 12 with VKD3D-Proton http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/155854#comment-31047 [01:30] -TechrightsSocial/#boycottnovell-social-www.tuxmachines.org | NVIDIA 470.74 Graphics Driver Brings Support for Linux Kernel 5.14, Firefox Improvements | Tux Machines [01:33] techrights-news Micro Text Editor: Lightweight and Intuitive Terminal-Based Editor http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/155865 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines [01:33] -TechrightsSocial/#boycottnovell-social-www.tuxmachines.org | Micro Text Editor: Lightweight and Intuitive Terminal-Based Editor | Tux Machines [01:35] techrights-news #IBM / #RedHat Leftovers http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/155867 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines [01:35] -TechrightsSocial/#boycottnovell-social-www.tuxmachines.org | IBM/Red Hat Leftovers | Tux Machines [01:37] techrights-news #SailfishOS 4.2.0 Verla improves the sharing of content http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/155721#comment-31048 #linux #finland #jolla [01:37] -TechrightsSocial/#boycottnovell-social-www.tuxmachines.org | Sailfish OS Verla introduces a new sharing system, camera updates, and more | Tux Machines [01:40] techrights-news #techrights will soon discover and report on how many in #europe care about #eu and #epo #slapp (can officials challenge their employer?) https://ec.europa.eu/transparency/expert-groups-register/screen/expert-groups/consult?do=groupDetail.groupDetail&groupID=3746 https://www.euractiv.com/section/digital/news/eu-parliament-to-counter-lawsuits-designed-to-silence-journalists-ngos/ [01:40] -TechrightsSocial/#boycottnovell-social-ec.europa.eu | Register of Commission expert groups and other similar entities [01:40] -TechrightsSocial/#boycottnovell-social-EU Parliament to counter lawsuits designed to silence journalists, NGOs EURACTIV.com [01:40] techrights-news #Ubuntu 21.10 makes #Firefox as a Snap http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/155736#comment-31050 [01:40] -TechrightsSocial/#boycottnovell-social-www.tuxmachines.org | Canonical to Push More Snaps in Ubuntu | Tux Machines [01:42] techrights-news Links 20/9/2021: #Emmabunts Debian Edition 4 1.00, DXVK 1.9.2, and NVIDIA 470.74 Graphics Driver http://techrights.org/2021/09/20/emmabuntus-de-4-1-00/ #Techrights #GNU #Linux #FreeSW | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2021/09/20/emmabuntus-de-4-1-00/ [01:42] -TechrightsSocial/#boycottnovell-social-techrights.org | Links 20/9/2021: Emmabunts Debian Edition 4 1.00, DXVK 1.9.2, and NVIDIA 470.74 Graphics Driver | Techrights [01:44] techrights-news If you have migrated to Linux, here are several Top Essential Linux Apps recommendations - LinuxStoney http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/155866 [01:44] -TechrightsSocial/#boycottnovell-social-www.tuxmachines.org | If you have migrated to Linux, here are several Top Essential Linux Apps recommendations - LinuxStoney | Tux Machines [01:46] techrights-news Todays #HowTos | #UNIX http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/155862 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines [01:46] -TechrightsSocial/#boycottnovell-social-www.tuxmachines.org | today's howtos | Tux Machines [01:48] techrights-news #Giada 0.18.2 Hardcore Loop Machine Brings New Stereo In/Out Audio Meters, Revamped Action Editor http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/155861 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines [01:48] -TechrightsSocial/#boycottnovell-social-www.tuxmachines.org | Giada 0.18.2 Hardcore Loop Machine Brings New Stereo In/Out Audio Meters, Revamped Action Editor | Tux Machines [01:49] techrights-news #ubuntu #gnu #linux "Issue 701 for the week of September 12 18, 2021. The full version of this issue is available here." https://ubuntu-news.org/2021/09/20/ubuntu-weekly-newsletter-issue-701/ [01:49] -TechrightsSocial/#boycottnovell-social-ubuntu-news.org | Ubuntu Fridge | Ubuntu Weekly Newsletter Issue 701 [01:50] techrights-news Peg-E 1.3.0 released https://gottcode.org/peg-e/ [01:50] -TechrightsSocial/#boycottnovell-social-gottcode.org | Peg-E [01:51] techrights-news #Microsoft NEVER cared about #security (only the PERCEPTION that it cares) https://puri.sm/posts/microsoft-ruined-passwords-now-aims-for-a-passwordless-future/ see http://techrights.org/wiki/index.php/Microsoft_and_the_NSA [01:51] -TechrightsSocial/#boycottnovell-social-puri.sm | Microsoft Ruined Passwords, Now Aims for a Passwordless Future Purism [01:51] -TechrightsSocial/#boycottnovell-social-techrights.org | Microsoft and the NSA - Techrights [01:53] techrights-news Structural pattern matching in #Python 3.10 https://benhoyt.com/writings/python-pattern-matching/ [01:53] -TechrightsSocial/#boycottnovell-social-benhoyt.com | Structural pattern matching in Python 3.10 [01:53] techrights-news Bad #Documentation Doesnt Make Software Advanced! - Invidious https://yewtu.be/watch?v=IL0TGlsSMHo #video #freesw [01:53] -TechrightsSocial/#boycottnovell-social-yewtu.be | Bad Documentation Doesn't Make Software Advanced! - Invidious [01:54] techrights-news Cheat, a tool to consult cheats on commands from the Linux terminal itself - LinuxStoney https://linuxstoney.com/cheat-tool-linux/ #linuxstoney | more in http://schestowitz.com/2021/09/21/#latest [01:54] -TechrightsSocial/#boycottnovell-social-Cheat, a tool to consult cheats on commands from the Linux terminal itself - LinuxStoney [01:54] -TechrightsSocial/#boycottnovell-social-schestowitz.com | Social Control Media Posts [01:55] techrights-news #Ubuntu Linux 21.10 'Impish Indri' official wallpapers now available for download http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/155720#comment-31051 #gnu #linux [01:55] -TechrightsSocial/#boycottnovell-social-www.tuxmachines.org | First Look: Ubuntu 21.10 Default Wallpaper Revealed | Tux Machines [01:55] techrights-news Todays #HowTos | #UNIX http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/155868 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines [01:55] -TechrightsSocial/#boycottnovell-social-www.tuxmachines.org | today's howtos | Tux Machines [01:56] *techrights_guest|29 has quit (Quit: Connection closed) [01:57] techrights-news New Video/Audio: GNU/Linux Essentials, WordPress 5.9 and More http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/155871 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines [01:57] -TechrightsSocial/#boycottnovell-social-www.tuxmachines.org | New Video/Audio: GNU/Linux Essentials, WordPress 5.9 and More | Tux Machines [01:58] techrights-news Some days, the number of known (to Lupa) Gemini capsules jumps by about a dozen. There are probably well over 2,000 capsules (like sites) already, but many are islands... ● Sep 21 [02:01] techrights-news #Devices and #OpenHardware Leftovers http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/155872 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines [02:01] -TechrightsSocial/#boycottnovell-social-www.tuxmachines.org | Devices and Open Hardware Leftovers | Tux Machines [02:03] techrights-news Todays Leftovers http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/155873 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines [02:03] -TechrightsSocial/#boycottnovell-social-www.tuxmachines.org | today's leftovers | Tux Machines [02:05] techrights-news #Programming Leftovers http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/155869 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines [02:05] -TechrightsSocial/#boycottnovell-social-www.tuxmachines.org | Programming Leftovers | Tux Machines [02:08] techrights-news #Openwashing, #FSFE , and #LinuxFoundation http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/155870 #TuxMachines [02:08] -TechrightsSocial/#boycottnovell-social-www.tuxmachines.org | Openwashing, FSFE, and Linux Foundation | Tux Machines [02:11] techrights-news Todays #HowTos | #UNIX http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/155874 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines [02:11] -TechrightsSocial/#boycottnovell-social-www.tuxmachines.org | today's howtos | Tux Machines [02:15] techrights-news #RichardStallman explains his stance on Invidious (released under the AGPLv3) in his new (in-person) talk http://techrights.org/2021/09/20/richard-stallmans-talk-in-ukraine-two-days-ago-in-person/ [02:15] -TechrightsSocial/#boycottnovell-social-techrights.org | Richard Stallmans Talk in Ukraine Two Days Ago (in Person) | Techrights [02:21] techrights-news Who the heck even uses #ibm clown? https://developer.ibm.com/blogs/streaming-to-ibm-with-cloudera-ssb-and-flink/ [02:21] -TechrightsSocial/#boycottnovell-social-developer.ibm.com | Using SQL Stream Builder with IBM Cloud IBM Developer [02:21] techrights-news #KVM over IP HAT for RPi 4 earns over $560K on Kickstarter http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/155875 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines [02:21] -TechrightsSocial/#boycottnovell-social-www.tuxmachines.org | KVM over IP HAT for RPi 4 earns over $560K on Kickstarter | Tux Machines [02:22] techrights-news #Intel Posts New Linux Patches Looking To Re-Enable ENQCMD Ahead Of Sapphire Rapids - Phoronix https://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=Intel-ENQCMD-Restoring-Patches #Phoronix #Kernel #Linux | more in http://schestowitz.com/2021/09/21/#latest [02:22] -TechrightsSocial/#boycottnovell-social-Intel Posts New Linux Patches Looking To Re-Enable ENQCMD Ahead Of Sapphire Rapids - Phoronix [02:23] techrights-news #Glyphtracer 2.0 https://nibblestew.blogspot.com/2021/09/glyphtracer-20.html #deletegithub though, you are propping up #ProprietarySoftware #monopoly of #microsoft http://techrights.org/wiki/index.php/Delete_Github [02:23] -TechrightsSocial/#boycottnovell-social-nibblestew.blogspot.com | Nibble Stew: Glyphtracer 2.0 [02:23] -TechrightsSocial/#boycottnovell-social-techrights.org | Delete Github - Techrights [02:24] techrights-news CUPS 2.4 Coming Next Month, CUPS 2.5 + CUPS 3.0 Already In Planning - Phoronix https://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=CUPS-2.4-Next-Year-Then-2.5-3.0 #Phoronix #Kernel #Linux | more in http://schestowitz.com/2021/09/21/#latest [02:24] -TechrightsSocial/#boycottnovell-social-CUPS 2.4 Coming Next Month, CUPS 2.5 + CUPS 3.0 Already In Planning - Phoronix [02:25] techrights-news Cut I/O bound #Rakefile task evaluation time by 12,4% https://www.ctrl.blog/entry/ruby-rake-performance-patches.html #ruby #programming [02:25] -TechrightsSocial/#boycottnovell-social-www.ctrl.blog | Cut I/O bound Rakefile task evaluation time by 12,4% [02:28] techrights-news Stephen O'Grady of #microsoft #redmond ... I mean #redmonk ... does some #revisionism for his sponsor Microsoft and pushes #clownComputing etc. Azure is an epic failure, so let's pay some so-called 'analysts' (glorified marketers) https://redmonk.com/sogrady/2021/09/20/fragmentation-abstractions/ [02:28] -TechrightsSocial/#boycottnovell-social-redmonk.com | Fragmentation Leads to Abstractions Which Lead to What? tecosystems [02:28] techrights-news #microsoft is #OrganisedCrime rather than a success story, but they keep trying to rewrite (distort) history and it's part of their budget [02:30] techrights-news boycottnovell irc Yesterday's #boycottnovell IRC logs ready. HTML: http://techrights.org/irc-archives/irc-log-200921.html TEXT: http://techrights.org/irc-archives/irc-log-200921.txt GEMINI: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/tr_text_version/irc-log-200921.txt [02:30] -TechrightsSocial/#boycottnovell-social-techrights.org | IRC: #boycottnovell @ Techrights IRC Network: Monday, September 20, 2021 [02:31] techrights-news techbytes irc Yesterday's #techbytes IRC logs ready. HTML: http://techrights.org/irc-archives/irc-log-techbytes-200921.html TEXT: http://techrights.org/irc-archives/irc-log-techbytes-200921.txt GEMINI: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/tr_text_version/irc-log-techbytes-200921.txt [02:31] -TechrightsSocial/#boycottnovell-social-techrights.org | IRC: #techbytes @ Techrights IRC Network: Monday, September 20, 2021 [02:32] techrights-news techpol + social irc Yesterday's #boycottnovell-social and #techpol IRC logs ready. HTML: http://techrights.org/irc-archives/irc-log-social-200921.html TEXT: http://techrights.org/irc-archives/irc-log-social-200921.txt GEMINI: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/tr_text_version/irc-log-social-200921.txt [02:32] -TechrightsSocial/#boycottnovell-social-techrights.org | IRC: #boycottnovell-social and #techpol @ Techrights IRC Network: Monday, September 20, 2021 [02:33] techrights-news Ongoing work on #epo #corruption and #eu #coverup http://techrights.org/irc-archives/irc-log-200921.html#tSep%2020%2005:31:25 [02:33] -TechrightsSocial/#boycottnovell-social-techrights.org | IRC: #boycottnovell @ Techrights IRC Network: Monday, September 20, 2021 [02:33] techrights-news techrights irc Yesterday's #techrights IRC logs ready. HTML: http://techrights.org/irc-archives/irc-log-techrights-200921.html TEXT: http://techrights.org/irc-archives/irc-log-techrights-200921.txt GEMINI: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/tr_text_version/irc-log-techrights-200921.txt [02:33] -TechrightsSocial/#boycottnovell-social-techrights.org | IRC: #techrights @ Techrights IRC Network: Monday, September 20, 2021 [02:34] techrights-news "I personally don't want to do anything about it other than not buying the price-inflated hardware" http://techrights.org/irc-archives/irc-log-social-200921.html#tSep%2020%2015:18:16 [02:34] -TechrightsSocial/#boycottnovell-social-techrights.org | IRC: #boycottnovell-social and #techpol @ Techrights IRC Network: Monday, September 20, 2021 [02:34] techrights-news #RaspberryPi attracts $45m after lockdowns fuel demand for PCs http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/155876 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines [02:34] -TechrightsSocial/#boycottnovell-social-www.tuxmachines.org | Raspberry Pi attracts $45m after lockdowns fuel demand for PCs | Tux Machines [02:36] techrights-news "historically, #Microsoft did use jobs as bribes" http://techrights.org/irc-archives/irc-log-techrights-200921.html#tSep%2020%2009:20:06 [02:36] -TechrightsSocial/#boycottnovell-social-techrights.org | IRC: #techrights @ Techrights IRC Network: Monday, September 20, 2021 [02:41] techrights-news Yesterday's bulletin is now ready! : http://techrights.org/txt-archives/techrights-2021-09-20.txt | gemini://gemini.techrights.org/tr_text_version/techrights-2021-09-20.txt (tentative address, to work an hour from now) [02:53] techrights-news "We're wrapping up another great week with the following activities from the Apache community..." https://blogs.apache.org/foundation/entry/the-apache-news-round-up244 [02:53] -TechrightsSocial/#boycottnovell-social-blogs.apache.org | The Apache News Round-up: week ending 17 September 2021 : The Apache Software Foundation Blog [02:53] techrights-news #RedHat wants to boost HDR support on Linux - itsfoss.net https://www.itsfoss.net/red-hat-wants-to-boost-hdr-support-on-linux/ [02:53] -TechrightsSocial/#boycottnovell-social-Red Hat wants to boost HDR support on Linux - itsfoss.net [02:54] techrights-news #OpenVPN DCO Linux Kernel Module Aims To Offer Faster VPN Performance - Phoronix https://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=OpenVPN-DCO-Kernel #Phoronix #Kernel #Linux | more in http://schestowitz.com/2021/09/21/#latest [02:54] -TechrightsSocial/#boycottnovell-social-OpenVPN DCO Linux Kernel Module Aims To Offer Faster VPN Performance - Phoronix [02:54] -TechrightsSocial/#boycottnovell-social-schestowitz.com | Social Control Media Posts [02:55] techrights-news Need to #deletegithub https://hackaday.com/2021/09/20/open-source-hot-rod-mod-gives-more-power-to-ev-owners/ helping #microsoft #ProprietarySoftware #monopoly is a disservice to the movement http://techrights.org/wiki/index.php/Delete_Github [02:55] -TechrightsSocial/#boycottnovell-social-Open Source Hot Rod Mod Gives More Power To EV Owners | Hackaday [02:58] techrights-news TuxMachines [02:59] techrights-news Marcus Lundblad: #GNOMEMaps and #GNOME 41 http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/155877 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines [02:59] -TechrightsSocial/#boycottnovell-social-www.tuxmachines.org | Marcus Lundblad: Maps and GNOME 41 | Tux Machines ● Sep 21 [03:08] techrights-news "Im using for my own personal projects a generator for c++ preferences for quite a while, Ill not say that its heavily tested as #KConfigXT is, but it is also much more simple than it." https://tcanabrava.github.io/2021/09/20/kconfig-alternate/ #deletegithub [03:08] -TechrightsSocial/#boycottnovell-social-tcanabrava.github.io | KConfigXT Alternative Generator [03:10] techrights-news #gnu #linux -powered "Jetson watches the live feed from the camera, and using a hand pose detection model, waits until theres no human hand in the frame." https://hackaday.com/2021/09/20/mastering-stop-motion-through-machine-learning/ [03:10] -TechrightsSocial/#boycottnovell-social-Mastering Stop Motion Through Machine Learning | Hackaday [03:13] techrights-news #IPKat helps #WIPO spread propaganda, conflating things like patent monopolies with "innovation" http://ipkitten.blogspot.com/2021/09/the-global-innovation-index-gii-2021.html see http://techrights.org/wiki/index.php/WIPO [03:13] -TechrightsSocial/#boycottnovell-social-ipkitten.blogspot.com | The Global Innovation Index (GII) 2021 - The IPKat [03:13] -TechrightsSocial/#boycottnovell-social-techrights.org | WIPO - Techrights [03:15] techrights-news #Patent #litigation giants have begun lying again about the #UPC https://www.kilburnstrode.com/knowledge/european-ip/upc-latest-news see http://techrights.org/2021/08/19/captured-media-telling-lies/ [03:15] -TechrightsSocial/#boycottnovell-social-www.kilburnstrode.com | The UPC: the latest news and a quick refresher - Kilburn & Strode [03:15] -TechrightsSocial/#boycottnovell-social-techrights.org | Naming and Shaming Captured Publications That Knowingly and Intentionally Published Fake News About the EUs Unified Patent Court So Far This Week | Techrights [03:19] techrights-news If you dont want to upgrade to Windows 11, here are some Best Linux distros to adapt http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/155878 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines [03:19] -TechrightsSocial/#boycottnovell-social-www.tuxmachines.org | If you dont want to upgrade to Windows 11, here are some Best Linux distros to adapt | Tux Machines [03:52] techrights-news #scotus has, in recent years, reverted back #patent maximalism https://patentlyo.com/patent/2021/09/patent-supreme-september.html [03:52] -TechrightsSocial/#boycottnovell-social-patentlyo.com | Patent Law at the Supreme Court September 2021 | Patently-O [03:54] techrights-news #hungary has already thrown #upc under the bus https://www.mondaq.com/patent/1111576/new-hungarian-government-decree-on-patent-protection-encouragement-of-pa-tents-vs-threat-of-compulsory-licensing #epo #eu [03:54] -TechrightsSocial/#boycottnovell-social-www.mondaq.com | New Hungarian Government Decree On Patent Protection: Encouragement Of Pa-tents vs. Threat Of Compulsory Licensing - Intellectual Property - Hungary [03:56] techrights-news What is this ritual about #patent monopolies? Is a 'shopping list' of patents considered "news" now? https://granitegeek.concordmonitor.com/2021/09/20/n-h-patents-through-sept-19/ [03:56] -TechrightsSocial/#boycottnovell-social-granitegeek.concordmonitor.com | N.H. patents through Sept. 19 - Granite Geek [03:59] techrights-news #Monero #P2Pool V1.0 Has Released https://linuxreviews.org/Monero_P2Pool_V1.0_Has_Released [03:59] -TechrightsSocial/#boycottnovell-social-linuxreviews.org | Monero P2Pool V1.0 Has Released - LinuxReviews ● Sep 21 [04:00] techrights-news #RaspberryPi With Some Serious Graphical Muscle | Hackaday https://hackaday.com/2021/09/20/raspberry-pi-with-some-serious-graphical-muscle/ #hackaday | more in http://schestowitz.com/2021/09/21/#latest [04:00] -TechrightsSocial/#boycottnovell-social-Raspberry Pi With Some Serious Graphical Muscle | Hackaday [04:00] techrights-news xkcd: Lumpers and Splitters https://xkcd.com/2518/ #xkcd [04:00] -TechrightsSocial/#boycottnovell-social-xkcd: Lumpers and Splitters [04:02] techrights-news The difference between deactivate and delete is, in both cases #facebook keeps all your personal data and sells it; but in the former you too can get back to giving #fb yet more data, unlike the latter. You're a loser either way. FB wins. https://www.maketecheasier.com/deactivate-delete-instagram/ [04:02] -TechrightsSocial/#boycottnovell-social-www.maketecheasier.com | How to Delete or Deactivate Your Instagram Account - Make Tech Easier [04:03] techrights-news #Flingbot is a robot that flings paint at a canvas to create art | Arduino Blog https://blog.arduino.cc/2021/09/20/flingbot-is-a-robot-that-flings-paint-at-a-canvas/ #Arduino #Hardware #OpenHardware #Hacking [04:03] -TechrightsSocial/#boycottnovell-social-blog.arduino.cc | Flingbot is a robot that flings paint at a canvas to create art | Arduino Blog [04:08] techrights-news #Techrights Bulletin for Monday, September 20, 2021 http://techrights.org/txt full archive: http://techrights.org/txt-archives #gnu #linux #freesw #plaintext [04:08] -TechrightsSocial/#boycottnovell-social-techrights.org | Bulletin Archives [04:10] techrights-news #Techrights full #IPFS index updated just now http://techrights.org/ipfs available as plain text @ http://techrights.org/ipfs/txt #dweb #sharing [04:10] -TechrightsSocial/#boycottnovell-social-techrights.org | Techrights Full IPFS Index [04:27] *DaemonFC has quit (connection closed) ● Sep 21 [07:20] *psydroid3 (~psydroid@cqggrmwgu7gji.irc) has joined #boycottnovell-social ● Sep 21 [09:08] techrights-news #IRC Proceedings: Monday, September 20, 2021 http://techrights.org/2021/09/21/irc-log-200921/ #Techrights #GNU #Linux #FreeSW | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2021/09/21/irc-log-200921/ [09:08] -TechrightsSocial/#boycottnovell-social-techrights.org | IRC Proceedings: Monday, September 20, 2021 | Techrights [09:10] techrights-news NEWS #DanLangille Bacula: delete a range of volumes, create the same range https://dan.langille.org/2021/09/18/bacula-delete-a-range-of-volumes-create-the-same-range/ [09:10] -TechrightsSocial/#boycottnovell-social-dan.langille.org | Bacula: delete a range of volumes, create the same range Dan Langille's Other Diary [09:10] techrights-news NEWS #BenCongdon Preventing Link Rot in my Obsidian Vault https://benjamincongdon.me/blog/2021/09/19/Preventing-Link-Rot-in-my-Obsidian-Vault/ [09:10] -TechrightsSocial/#boycottnovell-social-benjamincongdon.me | Preventing Link Rot in my Obsidian Vault | Ben Congdon [09:11] techrights-news NEWS #Beebom How to Run Android Apps in Linux Without an Emulator https://beebom.com/how-run-android-apps-linux-without-emulator/ [09:11] -TechrightsSocial/#boycottnovell-social-How to Run Android Apps in Linux Without an Emulator [GUIDE] | Beebom [09:12] techrights-news NEWS #Geshan #Programming The final guide to web scraping with #Nodejs https://geshan.com.np/blog/2021/09/web-scraping-nodejs/ [09:12] -TechrightsSocial/#boycottnovell-social-geshan.com.np | The final guide to web scraping with Node.js [09:12] techrights-news NEWS #DataSwamp #Programming How to use #cpan or pip packages on Nix and #NixOS https://dataswamp.org/~solene/2021-09-18-nix-cpan-pip.html [09:12] -TechrightsSocial/#boycottnovell-social-dataswamp.org | Solene'% : How to use cpan or pip packages on Nix and NixOS [09:12] techrights-news NEWS #DataSwamp #Programming Benchmarking compilation time with ccache/mfs on #OpenBSD https://dataswamp.org/~solene/2021-09-18-openbsd-ccache-mfs.html [09:12] -TechrightsSocial/#boycottnovell-social-dataswamp.org | Solene'% : Benchmarking compilation time with ccache/mfs on OpenBSD [09:13] techrights-news NEWS #uniToronto #Python One major obstacle to unifying the two types of package managers https://utcc.utoronto.ca/~cks/space/blog/tech/PackageManagersTwoTypesII [09:13] -TechrightsSocial/#boycottnovell-social-utcc.utoronto.ca | Chris's Wiki :: blog/tech/PackageManagersTwoTypesII [09:16] techrights-news NEWS #KevQuirk The Importance Of An About Page https://kevq.uk/the-importance-of-an-about-page/ [09:16] -TechrightsSocial/#boycottnovell-social-kevq.uk | The Importance Of An About Page - Kev Quirk [09:17] techrights-news NEWS #TeenVogue #Health #Police Are Dying of #COVID19 While Police Unions Fight Vaccines https://www.teenvogue.com/story/police-anti-vaccine-covid-deaths do they fight vaccines or mandates? Not the same thing. [09:17] -TechrightsSocial/#boycottnovell-social-www.teenvogue.com | Police Are Dying of COVID While Police Unions Fight Vaccines | Teen Vogue [09:18] techrights-news #Microsoft #Windows TCO: #TheHill #ProprietarySoftware Major agriculture group New Cooperative hit by ransomware attack https://thehill.com/policy/cybersecurity/573082-agriculture-group-new-cooperative-hit-by-ransomware-attack [09:18] -TechrightsSocial/#boycottnovell-social-Major agriculture group New Cooperative hit by ransomware attack | TheHill [09:18] techrights-news [Old] #DaveLane #ProprietarySoftware Explainer: Digitech risks for School Boards https://davelane.nz/explainer-digitech-risks-school-boards [09:18] -TechrightsSocial/#boycottnovell-social-davelane.nz | Explainer: Digitech risks for School Boards | Dave Lane [09:20] techrights-news [Old] #Purism #Surveillance #Privacy Internet of Snitches https://puri.sm/posts/internet-of-snitches/ [09:20] -TechrightsSocial/#boycottnovell-social-puri.sm | Internet of Snitches Purism [09:21] techrights-news NEWS #ScottHelme #Confidentiality #LetsEncrypt Root Certificate is expiring! https://scotthelme.co.uk/lets-encrypt-old-root-expiration/ [09:21] -TechrightsSocial/#boycottnovell-social-scotthelme.co.uk | Let's Encrypt's Root Certificate is expiring! [09:23] techrights-news NEWS #IndiaToday #india RAW, Delhi #Police conducted joint operation with #CIA in 2016 to bust ISIS-K camps in Afghanistan: Sources https://www.indiatoday.in/india/story/raw-delhi-police-joint-operation-cia-2016-isis-k-camps-afghanistan-sources-1854319-2021-09-18 [09:23] -TechrightsSocial/#boycottnovell-social-www.indiatoday.in | R&AW, Delhi Police conducted joint operation with CIA in 2016 to bust ISIS-K camps in Afghanistan: Sources - India News [09:23] techrights-news NEWS #FrontpageMag When the #Taliban Teamed Up With #BillGates and #UNICEF https://www.frontpagemag.com/fpm/2021/09/when-taliban-teamed-bill-gates-and-unicef-daniel-greenfield/ [09:23] -TechrightsSocial/#boycottnovell-social-When the Taliban Teamed Up With Bill Gates and UNICEF | Frontpagemag [09:24] techrights-news NEWS #NBC #boogaloo Grizzly Scouts militia members admit destroying evidence in fatal shooting of federal officer https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/grizzly-scouts-militia-members-admit-destroying-evidence-fatal-shooting-federal-n1279678 [09:24] -TechrightsSocial/#boycottnovell-social-www.nbcnews.com | Grizzly Scouts militia members admit destroying evidence in fatal shooting of federal officer [09:26] techrights-news NEWS #ModernDiplomacy #Environment Tipping point for #climate action: Times running out to avoid catastrophic heating https://moderndiplomacy.eu/2021/09/19/tipping-point-for-climate-action-times-running-out-to-avoid-catastrophic-heating/ [09:26] -TechrightsSocial/#boycottnovell-social-moderndiplomacy.eu | Tipping point for climate action: Times running out to avoid catastrophic heating - Modern Diplomacy [09:26] techrights-news NEWS #Quartz #Energy E-waste from every two bitcoin transactions is the equivalent of throwing away an iPad https://qz.com/2061275/bitcoin-mining-creates-mountains-of-e-waste/ [09:26] -TechrightsSocial/#boycottnovell-social-qz.com | Bitcoin mining creates mountains of e-waste Quartz [09:27] techrights-news NEWS #ABC #Koala #Koala #Australia Koala numbers fall after bushfires, conservation group says government numbers inaccurate https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-09-14/koala-numbers-fall-after-bushfires/100451202 [09:27] -TechrightsSocial/#boycottnovell-social-www.abc.net.au | Koala numbers fall after bushfires, conservation group says government numbers inaccurate - ABC News [09:28] techrights-news NEWS #XinHua #koalas #koala Iconic Australian koalas on brink of extinction: conservationists http://www.xinhuanet.com/english/asiapacific/2021-09/14/c_1310186571.htm "One hundred years ago, the fur trade nearly wiped out the species." [09:28] -TechrightsSocial/#boycottnovell-social-www.xinhuanet.com | Iconic Australian koalas on brink of extinction: conservationists - Xinhua [09:29] techrights-news NEWS #Australia #koalas #koala Koalas in rapid decline around Australia https://www.perthnow.com.au/news/wildlife/koalas-in-rapid-decline-around-australia-c-4012151 "30 per cent of the iconic species lost in just three years" [09:29] -TechrightsSocial/#boycottnovell-social-www.perthnow.com.au | Koalas in rapid decline around Australia | PerthNow [09:31] techrights-news NEWS #dawn #pk #pakistan #voting #votingmachines The economy of EVMs https://www.dawn.com/news/1647381/the-economy-of-evms [09:31] -TechrightsSocial/#boycottnovell-social-The economy of EVMs - Newspaper - DAWN.COM [09:31] techrights-news NEWS #TeenVogue #BurgessOwens Told Me to Respect My Elders During a Town Hall https://www.teenvogue.com/story/burgess-owens-town-hall [09:31] -TechrightsSocial/#boycottnovell-social-www.teenvogue.com | Burgess Owens Told Me to Respect My Elders During a Town Hall | Teen Vogue [09:32] techrights-news #ibm #layoffs #marketing #buzzwords "Does that describe IBM though and not just WH? All marketing and no substance" https://www.thelayoff.com/t/1cO3HbBU#replies [09:32] -TechrightsSocial/#boycottnovell-social-www.thelayoff.com | Watson Health - post regarding IBM layoffs [09:33] techrights-news NEWS #SLJ #Censorship As #BannedBooksWeek Approaches, the Fight Against Censorship Intensifies https://www.schoollibraryjournal.com/?detailStory=as-banned-books-week-approaches-the-fight-against-censorship-intensifies [09:33] -TechrightsSocial/#boycottnovell-social-www.schoollibraryjournal.com | As Banned Books Week Approaches, the Fight Against Censorship Intensifies | School Library Journal [09:34] techrights-news "Red Hat didnt do anything for IBM. Theyve always sukd too" https://www.thelayoff.com/t/1cVP6I2a#replies #redhat #ibm #layoffs #exodus [09:34] -TechrightsSocial/#boycottnovell-social-www.thelayoff.com | Who is eating IBM's lunch? - post regarding IBM layoffs [09:35] techrights-news NEWS #TheWire #pk Hindu Family in #Pakistan Held Hostage, Tortured for Drinking #Water from Mosque: Report https://thewire.in/communalism/hindu-family-in-pakistan-held-hostage-tortured-for-drinking-water-from-mosque-report [09:35] -TechrightsSocial/#boycottnovell-social-thewire.in | Hindu Family in Pakistan Held Hostage, Tortured for Drinking Water from Mosque: Report [09:36] techrights-news NEWS #IndiaTimes #Monopolies US states rally around proposed laws to rein in #BigTech https://cio.economictimes.indiatimes.com/news/corporate-news/us-states-rally-around-proposed-laws-to-rein-in-big-tech/86387429 don't use that term: http://techrights.org/2021/06/29/microsoft-behind-big-tech-narrative/ [09:36] -TechrightsSocial/#boycottnovell-social-cio.economictimes.indiatimes.com | big tech: US states rally around proposed laws to rein in Big Tech, IT News, ET CIO [09:36] -TechrightsSocial/#boycottnovell-social-techrights.org | Microsoft is a Lot Worse Than Google, Amazon, Facebook, and Apple | Techrights [09:38] techrights-news NEWS #TheEconomist #Patents #Patent #China throws a wrench into a transpacific trade pact https://www.economist.com/finance-and-economics/2021/09/20/china-throws-a-wrench-into-a-transpacific-trade-pact [09:38] -TechrightsSocial/#boycottnovell-social-China throws a wrench into a transpacific trade pact | The Economist [09:38] kingoffrance not that i probably care much for "teen vogue" but that is a good example of fake religion #BurgessOwens Told Me to Respect My Elders During a Town Hall https://www.teenvogue.com/story/burgess-owens-town-hall [09:38] techrights-news NEWS #ProjectCensored Never Forget: 9/11 and the 20 Year War on Terror - Excerpts From the Online Event - The Project Censored Show https://www.projectcensored.org/never-forget-9-11-and-the-20-year-war-on-terror-excerpts-from-the-online-event/ [09:38] -TechrightsSocial/#boycottnovell-social- ( status 520 @ https://www.projectcensored.org/never-forget-9-11-and-the-20-year-war-on-terror-excerpts-from-the-online-event/ ) [09:38] kingoffrance 2nd chance, faith family free market education [09:39] kingoffrance they have to walk a line between "faith" and flesh and blood "family" and "respect your elders" [09:39] kingoffrance normally "the world" is the devil [09:39] kingoffrance in this case, business success is a reward [09:39] kingoffrance "elders" [09:39] kingoffrance call no man father was the actaul "religion" [09:39] kingoffrance training future leaders [09:40] kingoffrance "with god there is no respect of persons" [09:40] kingoffrance that doesnt bode well for statism [09:40] kingoffrance or corporatism [09:40] kingoffrance so you get this half-hearted imaginary "faith" [09:41] kingoffrance where all creeds are equal [09:41] kingoffrance and all government is good [09:41] kingoffrance and all businesses are good [09:41] kingoffrance love the world, if anyone does not love the world, the elders is not in them lol [09:41] techrights-news iophk: smoke and mirrors to create a spectacle to buy time for #billgates https://www.telegraph.co.uk/royal-family/2021/09/20/prince-andrew-urged-ditch-legal-team-fears-strategy-grow/ [09:41] -TechrightsSocial/#boycottnovell-social-www.telegraph.co.uk | Prince Andrew formally served sex assault lawsuit in US [09:42] techrights-news iophk: either no content yet or it is blocked by javascript https://walledculture.org/welcome-to-walled-culture/ [09:42] -TechrightsSocial/#boycottnovell-social-Empty reply from server ( status 0 @ https://walledculture.org/welcome-to-walled-culture/ ) [09:43] kingoffrance the problem is "american dream" is "worldly" so theres always this schizo "faith" thing going on [09:43] kingoffrance have faith, but not too much, you want to be worldly too [09:43] kingoffrance lol [09:44] techrights-news NEWS #TheGrayZone With #Clinton lawyer charged, the #Russiagate scam is now under indictment https://thegrayzone.com/2021/09/20/with-clinton-lawyer-charged-the-russiagate-scam-is-now-indicted/ [09:44] -TechrightsSocial/#boycottnovell-social-thegrayzone.com | With Clinton lawyer charged, the Russiagate scam is now under indictment - The Grayzone [09:45] techrights-news NEWS #TheNation #police Beyond the State https://www.thenation.com/article/society/graeber-wengrow-dawn-of-everything/ [09:45] -TechrightsSocial/#boycottnovell-social-www.thenation.com | David Graeber and David Wengrows Anarchist History of Humanity | The Nation [09:45] kingoffrance they always have to find a way to sell material world success as "faith" rather than "The devil" [09:45] kingoffrance its always interesting to see lol [09:46] techrights-news NEWS #TheNation #OWS Sexism and Racism on the Left: What Has and Hasnt Changed Since #OccupyWallStreet https://www.thenation.com/article/society/occupy-wall-street-race-gender/ [09:46] -TechrightsSocial/#boycottnovell-social-www.thenation.com | Sexism and Racism on the Left: What Has and Hasnt Changed Since Occupy Wall Street | The Nation [09:47] techrights-news NEWS #RobertReich #Biden This Week https://robertreich.org/post/662882661686231040 [09:47] -TechrightsSocial/#boycottnovell-social-robertreich.org | Robert Reich (This Week) [09:47] techrights-news NEWS #RobertReich has a New Endeavor https://robertreich.org/post/662865767911522304 [09:47] -TechrightsSocial/#boycottnovell-social-robertreich.org | Robert Reich (A New Endeavor) [09:50] kingoffrance What really matters is whether not our incarcerated students are tired of the life they have and are willing to put in the very difficult work necessary to create a real, legitimate, successful, and law-abiding life going forward [09:50] kingoffrance the law was always damned/cursed, as galatians says [09:50] kingoffrance no salvation in law [09:50] kingoffrance this is why its so troubling [09:50] kingoffrance you get "socialists" posing as "capitalists" who think "the gov is god" [09:50] kingoffrance it is also lawful versus legal [09:51] kingoffrance this is "formalism" destroys "law" too to "merge" them like that [09:51] kingoffrance it kills ssecular "law" too [09:51] kingoffrance spirit gives life, letter kills [09:51] kingoffrance law/legal is the secular versino of that [09:52] kingoffrance its heresy for "secular" law too [09:52] kingoffrance normally "the gov is god" was "atheistic communism" [09:52] kingoffrance its a synthesis :/ [09:56] techrights-news NEWS #TruthOut #TX Beto ORourke Planning #Texas Governor Run as Greg Abbotts Ratings Plummet https://truthout.org/articles/beto-orourke-planning-texas-governor-run-as-greg-abbotts-ratings-plummet/ [09:56] -TechrightsSocial/#boycottnovell-social-truthout.org | Beto ORourke Planning Texas Governor Run as Greg Abbotts Ratings Plummet [09:56] techrights-news NEWS #TruthOut #Pennsylvania Democrats Sue #GOP Over Their Attempt to "Investigate" 2020 Election https://truthout.org/articles/pennsylvania-democrats-sue-gop-over-their-attempt-to-investigate-2020-election/ [09:56] -TechrightsSocial/#boycottnovell-social-truthout.org | Pennsylvania Democrats Sue GOP Over Their Attempt to "Investigate" 2020 Election [09:56] techrights-news NEWS #MintPressNews #cuba #Havana Syndrome, Directed Energy Weapons, and the New Cold War https://www.mintpressnews.com/havana-syndrome-directed-energy-weapon-new-cold-war/278501/ [09:56] -TechrightsSocial/#boycottnovell-social-www.mintpressnews.com | Havana Syndrome, Directed Energy Weapons, and the New Cold War [09:57] kingoffrance and a minor point, they push marriage [09:57] kingoffrance its kind of engineered "religion" for outcomes [09:57] kingoffrance its all about productivity, not a real theology [09:59] kingoffrance i mean, they dont argue actual theology, they argue who is law abiding and a productive citizen [09:59] kingoffrance so it is about conforming to "the world" rather than "god" ● Sep 21 [10:00] techrights-news NEWS #TruthOut #Energy #Biden Administration Shuns #IPCC Report in Argument to Expand #OffshoreDrilling https://truthout.org/articles/biden-administration-shuns-ipcc-report-in-argument-to-expand-offshore-drilling/ [10:00] -TechrightsSocial/#boycottnovell-social-truthout.org | Biden Administration Shuns IPCC Report in Argument to Expand Offshore Drilling [10:00] techrights-news NEWS #TruthOut #haiti #Biden Vows Mass Deportations as Thousands of Haitian Refugees Shelter in Del Rio https://truthout.org/video/biden-vows-mass-deportations-as-thousands-of-haitian-refugees-shelter-in-del-rio/ #trump with a mask on... [10:00] -TechrightsSocial/#boycottnovell-social-truthout.org | Biden Vows Mass Deportations as Thousands of Haitian Refugees Shelter in Del Rio [10:01] techrights-news Age of mobs mobilised, either cancel mobs or physical mobs with #socialcontrolmedia for directions https://www.salon.com/2021/09/20/quietly-unleashes-his-mob/ [10:01] -TechrightsSocial/#boycottnovell-social-Trump quietly unleashes his mob | Salon.com [10:02] techrights-news #openssh https://lists.mindrot.org/pipermail/openssh-unix-dev/2021-September/039649.html [10:02] -TechrightsSocial/#boycottnovell-social-lists.mindrot.org | scp: now using SFTP protocol by default [10:03] kingoffrance "the bible" Matthew 6:25 even says dont worry about where your next meal comes from...its business salvation lol [10:03] techrights-news #massachusetts https://odysee.com/@rossmanngroup:a/louis-goes-to-massachusetts:c [10:03] -TechrightsSocial/#boycottnovell-social-odysee.com | Louis goes to Massachusetts [10:03] kingoffrance anyways, lol. total inversion [10:03] techrights-news Rallying against the #orangeNazi who was never held accountable for his crimes https://www.rollingstone.com/politics/politics-news/more-indictments-may-be-coming-trump-weisselberg-1229459/ [10:03] -TechrightsSocial/#boycottnovell-social-www.rollingstone.com | More Indictments May Be Coming in Trump Org. Case, Attorney Says - Rolling Stone [10:04] techrights-news Brief History of Bad Passwords - Kyle Rankin - Invidious https://yewtu.be/watch?v=bz6Axn2uF80 http://kylerank.in/talks/security/bad_passwords.html https://social.librem.one/@kyle/106965559620625608 [10:04] -TechrightsSocial/#boycottnovell-social-yewtu.be | G1234! - Sex, Secret and God: A Brief History of Bad Passwords - Kyle Rankin - Invidious [10:04] -TechrightsSocial/#boycottnovell-social-kylerank.in | Sex, Secret and God: A Brief History of Bad Passwords [10:04] -TechrightsSocial/#boycottnovell-social-social.librem.one | Kyle Rankin: "I didn't realize just how much I blamed Microsoft" - Librem Social [10:05] techrights-news "Text entered into Windows Run dialogue gets sent" - Die PARTEI Mastodon https://die-partei.social/@hackernews/106966116161863325 [10:05] -TechrightsSocial/#boycottnovell-social-die-partei.social | Hackernews: "Text entered into Windows' Run dialogue gets sent" - Die PARTEI Mastodon [10:06] techrights-news Dave Lane: "Next year, my older son starts highschool." - Mastodon - #NZOSS https://mastodon.nzoss.nz/@lightweight/106966890759113366 #lightweight [10:06] -TechrightsSocial/#boycottnovell-social-mastodon.nzoss.nz | Dave Lane: "Next year, my older son starts highschool. They u" - Mastodon - NZOSS [10:08] techrights-news "It's digital colonisation of our kids." https://mastodon.nzoss.nz/@lightweight/106967387208173202 "Microsoft will indeed have very good insight into who your son is by the time he graduates." [10:08] -TechrightsSocial/#boycottnovell-social-mastodon.nzoss.nz | Dave Lane: "@guenther@chaos.social no it isn't, really. Plus " - Mastodon - NZOSS [10:09] techrights-news NEWS #TheNation #OWS Fighting Inequality After #OccupyWallStreet https://www.thenation.com/article/society/occupy-wall-street-inequality/ [10:09] -TechrightsSocial/#boycottnovell-social-www.thenation.com | Fighting Inequality After Occupy Wall Street | The Nation [10:09] techrights-news NEWS #CommonDreams #haiti #BorderPatrol Accused of 'Unfathomable Cruelty' for Cracking Whips on Haitians https://www.commondreams.org/news/2021/09/20/border-patrol-accused-unfathomable-cruelty-cracking-whips-haitians [10:09] -TechrightsSocial/#boycottnovell-social-www.commondreams.org | Border Patrol Accused of 'Unfathomable Cruelty' for Cracking Whips on Haitians [10:10] techrights-news NEWS #DemocracyNow New Revelations on #Haiti Assassination: Grenade-Dropping Drones, Paranoid President & Guards Who Ran https://www.democracynow.org/2021/9/20/haitian_president_jovenel_moise_assassination [10:10] -TechrightsSocial/#boycottnovell-social-www.democracynow.org | New Revelations on Haiti Assassination: Grenade-Dropping Drones, Paranoid President & Guards Who Ran | Democracy Now! [10:10] kingoffrance in a nutshell, that "second chance for youth" is basically why new testament says loving "The world" is "spiritual adultery" [10:10] kingoffrance i mean, even their pro-marriage argument, is obsolete [10:11] techrights-news NEWS #DemocracyNow #haiti People Are Desperate: #Biden Vows Mass Deportations as Thousands of Haitian Refugees Shelter in Del Rio https://www.democracynow.org/2021/9/20/haitian_asylum_seekers_mass_deportations [10:11] -TechrightsSocial/#boycottnovell-social-www.democracynow.org | People Are Desperate: Biden Vows Mass Deportations as Thousands of Haitian Refugees Shelter in Del Rio | Democracy Now! [10:12] techrights-news NEWS #TruthOut #Finance #Nabisco Strike Ends as Union Members Approve New Contract https://truthout.org/articles/nabisco-strike-ends-as-union-members-approve-new-contract/ [10:12] -TechrightsSocial/#boycottnovell-social-truthout.org | Nabisco Strike Ends as Union Members Approve New Contract [10:13] techrights-news #Pfizer #patents are ripping us all off; Pfizer would rather push its crap onto kids in rich countries then ship doses to elderly people in poor nations https://truthout.org/articles/pfizer-says-vaccine-is-safe-for-5-11-year-olds-will-submit-to-fda-this-month/ #patent #monopolies #greed [10:13] -TechrightsSocial/#boycottnovell-social-truthout.org | Pfizer Says Vaccine Is Safe for Kids Aged 5 to 11, Will Submit to FDA This Month [10:14] techrights-news NEWS #Techdirt #Trademarks #Trademark Turner Entertainment Forces Name Change Of 'Surrender Dorothy' Beer, Which Isn't Actually Referencing Wizard Of Oz https://www.techdirt.com/articles/20210915/10422947566/turner-entertainment-forces-name-change-surrender-dorothy-beer-which-isnt-actually-referencing-wizard-oz.shtml [10:14] -TechrightsSocial/#boycottnovell-social-Turner Entertainment Forces Name Change Of 'Surrender Dorothy' Beer, Which Isn't Actually Referencing Wizard Of Oz | Techdirt [10:15] techrights-news NEWS #Techdirt #Massachusetts Massachusetts' Top Court Says #Police Need Warrants To Search Body Camera Recordings https://www.techdirt.com/articles/20210911/14252947542/massachusetts-top-court-says-police-need-warrants-to-search-body-camera-recordings.shtml [10:15] -TechrightsSocial/#boycottnovell-social-Massachusetts' Top Court Says Police Need Warrants To Search Body Camera Recordings | Techdirt [10:15] techrights-news NEWS #Techdirt #china #cn Hongkongers Battle Supporters Of #Beijing For The Soul Of The Chinese-Language #Wikipedia https://www.techdirt.com/articles/20210916/06131747572/hongkongers-battle-supporters-beijing-soul-chinese-language-wikipedia.shtml [10:15] -TechrightsSocial/#boycottnovell-social-Hongkongers Battle Supporters Of Beijing For The Soul Of The Chinese-Language Wikipedia | Techdirt [10:16] kingoffrance the other thing "Training future leaders" they see gov as their "church" so that is more "synthesis" [10:17] techrights-news NEWS #TruthOut #TX Justice Department Fights Back Against #Texas Anti- #Abortion Law https://truthout.org/articles/justice-department-fights-back-against-texas-anti-abortion-law/ [10:17] -TechrightsSocial/#boycottnovell-social-truthout.org | Justice Department Fights Back Against Texas Anti-Abortion Law [10:17] techrights-news NEWS #Techdirt #censorship Russian Government Abuses IP [sic] Law, Regular Law To Shut Down Alexey Navalny's 'Smart Voting' App https://www.techdirt.com/articles/20210918/18232047588/russian-government-abuses-ip-law-regular-law-to-shut-down-alexey-navalnys-smart-voting-app.shtml [10:17] -TechrightsSocial/#boycottnovell-social-Russian Government Abuses IP Law, Regular Law To Shut Down Alexey Navalny's 'Smart Voting' App | Techdirt [10:17] techrights-news NEWS #TruthOut McConnell, Manchin, Sinema and Pharma Dems Are Preparing to Torpedo Everything https://truthout.org/articles/mcconnell-manchin-sinema-and-pharma-dems-are-preparing-to-torpedo-everything/ [10:17] -TechrightsSocial/#boycottnovell-social-truthout.org | McConnell, Manchin, Sinema and Pharma Dems Are Preparing to Torpedo Everything [10:17] kingoffrance instead of a real religion, you get gov and business "priests" [10:18] schestowitz-TR yeah, see: [10:18] schestowitz-TR > https://broadbandbreakfast.com/2021/09/microsoft-executive-calls-for-improved-information-sharing-between-governments-and-companies/ [10:18] -TechrightsSocial/#boycottnovell-social-broadbandbreakfast.com | Microsoft Executive Calls For Improved Information Sharing Between Governments and Companies : Broadband Breakfast [10:18] kingoffrance sorry schestowitz ive met such ppl in real life, i know all the tricks [10:19] schestowitz-TR corporate oligarchy [10:19] kingoffrance it catches you off guard if you arent aware of the "blending" [10:19] schestowitz-TR why not just outsource the government to a company? :) [10:19] schestowitz-TR tender, highest bidder becomes the government corporation [10:19] kingoffrance mostly, "The world" was usually the devil, they make no separation, its a type of dominionism [10:20] techrights-news NEWS #Techdirt As We're Told That No New Social Media App Can Make It, #TikTok Surpasses #Facebook Downloads & YouTube Watch Time https://www.techdirt.com/articles/20210908/15184847526/as-were-told-that-no-new-social-media-app-can-make-it-tiktok-surpasses-facebook-downloads-youtube-watch-time.shtml [10:20] -TechrightsSocial/#boycottnovell-social-As We're Told That No New Social Media App Can Make It, TikTok Surpasses Facebook Downloads & YouTube Watch Time | Techdirt [10:20] kingoffrance normally, there is a thick line separatin "The world" from "god" [10:20] kingoffrance they have no such line [10:20] kingoffrance thats why its vaguely "marxist" [10:21] kingoffrance it is like the mega church business things [10:21] kingoffrance the prosperity gospel [10:21] kingoffrance god wants you to be rich! [10:21] kingoffrance sign up here, give me money [10:22] techrights-news NEWS #TruthOut Parliamentarian Blocks Dems From Including Immigration in Reconciliation Bill https://truthout.org/articles/parliamentarian-blocks-dems-from-including-immigration-in-reconciliation-bill/ [10:22] -TechrightsSocial/#boycottnovell-social-truthout.org | Parliamentarian Blocks Dems From Including Immigration in Reconciliation Bill [10:23] kingoffrance i could go on.......new age jesus comes with a sword of merging all religions rather than separate "The worldly" ...its inversion. they have a "sword" of merging everyone together basically lol [10:23] kingoffrance if you know its inversion, then it all makes sense [10:23] kingoffrance otherwise, it makes no sense [10:24] kingoffrance its new agey "spiritualism" although it poses as "republican" "conservative" etc. [10:28] techrights-news NEWS #DeSmog Major Animal Pharma Industry Group Forced to Remove UN Logo from Misleading Briefing on Livestock Climate Impact https://www.desmog.com/2021/09/20/animal-pharma-hfa-un-logo-misleading-briefing-livestock-climate-impact/ [10:28] -TechrightsSocial/#boycottnovell-social-Major Animal Pharma Industry Group Forced to Remove UN Logo from Misleading Briefing on Livestock Climate Impact - DeSmog [10:28] techrights-news NEWS #TorrentFreak #copyright #copyrights Virgin Media Subscribers Told to Pay "Thousands of Pounds" to Settle Piracy Lawsuits https://torrentfreak.com/virgin-media-subscribers-told-to-pay-thousands-of-pounds-to-settle-piracy-lawsuits-210920/ [10:28] -TechrightsSocial/#boycottnovell-social-Virgin Media Subscribers Told to Pay "Thousands of Pounds" to Settle Piracy Lawsuits * TorrentFreak [10:29] techrights-news NEWS #TorrentFreak #copyright #copyrights U.S. Copyright Holders Want Tougher Anti-Piracy Measures in #China https://torrentfreak.com/u-s-copyright-holders-want-tougher-anti-piracy-measures-in-china-210920/ [10:29] -TechrightsSocial/#boycottnovell-social-U.S. Copyright Holders Want Tougher Anti-Piracy Measures in China * TorrentFreak [10:30] techrights-news NEWS #CreativeCommons CC Global Summit to Promote #OpenAccess and Better Sharing https://creativecommons.org/2021/09/20/cc-global-summit-to-promote-open-access-and-better-sharing/ [10:30] -TechrightsSocial/#boycottnovell-social-creativecommons.org | CC Global Summit to Promote Open Access and Better Sharing - Creative Commons [10:30] techrights-news NEWS #Orac Doctors who should know better dumpster dive in VAERS https://respectfulinsolence.com/2021/09/20/doctors-who-should-know-better-dumpster-dive-in-vaers/ [10:30] -TechrightsSocial/#boycottnovell-social-respectfulinsolence.com | Doctors who should know better dumpster dive in VAERS - RESPECTFUL INSOLENCE [10:30] techrights-news NEWS #DemocracyNow #patents Indian Civil Society Urges #JohnsonAndJohnson to Stop Exporting Indian-Made #Vaccines to Rich Nations https://www.democracynow.org/2021/9/20/covid_vaccine_inequity_achal_prabhala [10:31] -TechrightsSocial/#boycottnovell-social-www.democracynow.org | Indian Civil Society Urges Johnson & Johnson to Stop Exporting Indian-Made Vaccines to Rich Nations | Democracy Now! [10:35] techrights-news NEWS #TruthOut #Energy #Exxon -Tied #Manchin Favors #Climate Policies Pushed by the Oil and Gas Industry https://truthout.org/articles/exxon-tied-manchin-favors-climate-policies-pushed-by-the-oil-and-gas-industry/ [10:35] -TechrightsSocial/#boycottnovell-social-truthout.org | Exxon-Tied Manchin Favors Climate Policies Pushed by the Oil and Gas Industry [10:35] techrights-news NEWS #KrebsOnSecurity #Security Does Your Organization Have a Security.txt File? https://krebsonsecurity.com/2021/09/does-your-organization-have-a-security-txt-file/ [10:35] -TechrightsSocial/#boycottnovell-social-krebsonsecurity.com | Does Your Organization Have a Security.txt File? Krebs on Security [10:36] techrights-news NEWS #TheRevelator #Climate Hot Reads: Ten Essential New Books About Fighting #ClimateChange https://therevelator.org/climate-books-september-2021/ [10:36] -TechrightsSocial/#boycottnovell-social-therevelator.org | Hot Reads: Ten Essential New Books About Fighting Climate Change The Revelator [10:37] techrights-news NEWS #TheNation #Israel When #Biden Met Bennettand Gave His Blessing to #Impunity https://www.thenation.com/article/world/palestine-israel-bennett-biden/ [10:37] -TechrightsSocial/#boycottnovell-social-www.thenation.com | When Biden Met Bennettand Gave His Blessing to Impunity | The Nation [10:37] kingoffrance its cuz they are fighting "culture wars" they get lost. normally "family values" was how you destroy religion. why? because flesh and blood families denies "the church". likewise nuclear families, were ideal (most state-dependent) as opposed to multi-generational families. most of these things they will push "family values" [10:38] techrights-news NEWS #TheNation #Canada Bernie #Sanders Backs Canadas Left Rival to Justin #Trudeau https://www.thenation.com/article/politics/sanders-canada-trudeau/ [10:38] -TechrightsSocial/#boycottnovell-social-www.thenation.com | Bernie Sanders Backs Canadas Left Rival to Justin Trudeau | The Nation [10:38] kingoffrance its like the 60s was evil to them, so they 180 "law and order" ...nope, still the devil lol [10:39] kingoffrance flesh and blood families? nope, still the devil lol [10:39] kingoffrance they are blinded by "culture war" [10:39] techrights-news #overpopulation and #greed will doom also 'rich' economies, where more people will sink to poverty and few oligarchs will pick up the pieces as the world burns and passes epidemics outwards https://www.commondreams.org/news/2021/09/20/climate-clock-shows-rich-nations-still-owe-90-billion-year-global-green-fund [10:39] -TechrightsSocial/#boycottnovell-social-www.commondreams.org | 'Climate Clock' Shows Rich Nations Still Owe $90 Billion a Year to Global Green Fund [10:40] techrights-news NEWS #CommonDreams Opinion | Why #LindseyGraham Is Trying to Rescue #RahmEmanuel https://www.commondreams.org/views/2021/09/20/why-lindsey-graham-trying-rescue-rahm-emanuel [10:40] -TechrightsSocial/#boycottnovell-social-www.commondreams.org | Opinion | Why Lindsey Graham Is Trying to Rescue Rahm Emanuel | Jeff Cohen [10:40] techrights-news NEWS #CommonDreams #torture 20 Years After Start of 'War on Terror', Groups Demand Closure of #Gitmo 'Once and For All' https://www.commondreams.org/news/2021/09/20/20-years-after-start-war-terror-groups-demand-closure-gitmo-once-and-all [10:40] -TechrightsSocial/#boycottnovell-social-www.commondreams.org | 20 Years After Start of 'War on Terror', Groups Demand Closure of Gitmo 'Once and For All' [10:42] kingoffrance they ythink "Leftist" "socialists" want to destroy "the family" but that is only 1/2 truth [10:42] kingoffrance "commies" abandoned that, in favor of state-controlled "nuclear families" [10:44] kingoffrance its the one-dimensional reductions that blinds them [10:44] kingoffrance or mincer i think called it "hungarian politics" [10:47] kingoffrance its like buzzword meaningless theology "faith" "family" [10:47] kingoffrance "god" never define those terms [10:49] techrights-news NEWS #CommonDreams Democrats Urged to 'Ignore' Parliamentarian's Advice Against Path to Citizenship https://www.commondreams.org/news/2021/09/20/democrats-urged-ignore-parliamentarians-advice-against-path-citizenship [10:49] -TechrightsSocial/#boycottnovell-social-www.commondreams.org | Democrats Urged to 'Ignore' Parliamentarian's Advice Against Path to Citizenship [10:49] kingoffrance for "bible" stuff they will never pick a testament either [10:50] techrights-news NEWS #RaspberryPi #RasPi #GNU #Linux Whats a kangaroo?! AI ethics lessons for and from the younger generation https://www.raspberrypi.org/blog/ai-ethics-lessons-education-children-research/ [10:50] -TechrightsSocial/#boycottnovell-social-www.raspberrypi.org | Whats a kangaroo?! AI ethics lessons for and from the younger generation - Raspberry Pi [10:50] kingoffrance it will just be vague undefined meaningless "god" [10:50] techrights-news NEWS #CommonDreams #Afghanistan Opinion | After Defeat in Afghanistan, Can US Envision a Future of Peace? https://www.commondreams.org/views/2021/09/20/after-defeat-afghanistan-can-us-envision-future-peace [10:50] -TechrightsSocial/#boycottnovell-social-www.commondreams.org | Opinion | After Defeat in Afghanistan, Can US Envision a Future of Peace? | William Astore [10:55] techrights-news NEWS #CounterPunch Dangerous War Scares Of 1974, 1983, And 2021: What Needs To Be Done? https://www.counterpunch.org/2021/09/20/dangerous-war-scares-of-1974-1983-and-2021-what-needs-to-be-done/ [10:55] -TechrightsSocial/#boycottnovell-social-Dangerous War Scares Of 1974, 1983, And 2021: What Needs To Be Done? - CounterPunch.org [10:55] techrights-news NEWS #ProPublica Landlords Use Secret Algorithms to Screen Potential Tenants. Find Out What Theyve Said About You. https://www.propublica.org/article/landlords-use-secret-algorithms-to-screen-potential-tenants-find-out-what-theyve-said-about-you [10:55] -TechrightsSocial/#boycottnovell-social-www.propublica.org | Landlords Use Secret Algorithms to Screen Potential Tenants. Find Out What Theyve Said About You. ProPublica [10:56] techrights-news When supposed 'left' is just #goldenDawnald (or overlapping it): "Three GOP senators told the Post that they will proudly vote to confirm Emanuel" https://www.counterpunch.org/2021/09/20/why-lindsey-graham-is-trying-to-rescue-rahm-emanuel/ [10:56] -TechrightsSocial/#boycottnovell-social-Why Lindsey Graham is Trying to Rescue Rahm Emanuel - CounterPunch.org ● Sep 21 [11:01] kingoffrance "why not just outsource the government to a company? :)" thats the PPP :) [11:01] kingoffrance dont think they forgot that :) [11:02] kingoffrance and some would argue, all the business-controlled foundations/etc. [11:02] kingoffrance if they need to be less conspicuous [11:03] techrights-news NEWS #CounterPunch #germany #de Germanys New Neo-Nazis: The Reichsbrger https://www.counterpunch.org/2021/09/20/germanys-new-neo-nazis-the-reichsburger/ [11:03] -TechrightsSocial/#boycottnovell-social-Germanys New Neo-Nazis: The Reichsbrger - CounterPunch.org [11:03] techrights-news NEWS #CounterPunch #Australia Why the Nuclear Sub Deal Will End Badly for the Australians https://www.counterpunch.org/2021/09/20/why-the-nuclear-sub-deal-will-end-badly-for-the-australians/ [11:03] -TechrightsSocial/#boycottnovell-social-Why the Nuclear Sub Deal Will End Badly for the Australians - CounterPunch.org [11:04] kingoffrance id also even say burgess owens "respect" you want "the world" to respect you? thats perfectly fine, but thats total inversion of "faith" there too [11:04] kingoffrance i mean, these things arent problems for secular stuff, but theyve created a frankenstein "religion" [11:05] kingoffrance thats direct opposite of any real religion [11:05] kingoffrance love "Teh world" make sure "the world" loves you back. where's "god" in this equation? vanished lol [11:06] techrights-news NEWS #CommonDreams #Haiti Official Demands 'Humanitarian Moratorium' as US Ramps Up Deportations https://www.commondreams.org/news/2021/09/20/haiti-official-demands-humanitarian-moratorium-us-ramps-deportations [11:06] -TechrightsSocial/#boycottnovell-social-www.commondreams.org | Haiti Official Demands 'Humanitarian Moratorium' as US Ramps Up Deportations [11:07] techrights-news NEWS #CounterPunch #Mexico The Mexico Dialogue on #Venezuela and the End of the #LimaGroup https://www.counterpunch.org/2021/09/20/the-mexico-dialogue-on-venezuela-and-the-end-of-the-lima-group/ [11:07] -TechrightsSocial/#boycottnovell-social-The Mexico Dialogue on Venezuela and the End of the Lima Group - CounterPunch.org [11:07] *DaemonFC (~DaemonFC@neukgmjr6gmt8.irc) has joined #boycottnovell-social [11:07] techrights-news NEWS #CounterPunch Black and Asian American Workers Falling Behind in Getting Back Jobs https://www.counterpunch.org/2021/09/20/black-and-asian-american-workers-falling-behind-in-getting-back-jobs/ [11:07] -TechrightsSocial/#boycottnovell-social-Black and Asian American Workers Falling Behind in Getting Back Jobs - CounterPunch.org [11:08] techrights-news NEWS #CounterPunch #peru Rocky Road Ahead for New, Left-leaning Peruvian Government https://www.counterpunch.org/2021/09/20/rocky-road-ahead-for-new-left-leaning-peruvian-government/ [11:08] -TechrightsSocial/#boycottnovell-social-Rocky Road Ahead for New, Left-leaning Peruvian Government - CounterPunch.org [11:09] *psydroid3 has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [11:13] techrights-news #Plasma 5.23 Anniversary Edition Beta for Debian available for testing http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/155879 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines [11:13] -TechrightsSocial/#boycottnovell-social-www.tuxmachines.org | Plasma 5.23 Anniversary Edition Beta for Debian available for testing | Tux Machines [11:13] techrights-news Can You Use Tor on Linux? http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/155880 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines [11:13] -TechrightsSocial/#boycottnovell-social-www.tuxmachines.org | Can You Use Tor on Linux? | Tux Machines [11:13] techrights-news What to Do After Installing #Debian 11 Bullseye http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/155881 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines [11:13] -TechrightsSocial/#boycottnovell-social-www.tuxmachines.org | What to Do After Installing Debian 11 Bullseye | Tux Machines [11:14] techrights-news #IPFire 2.27 - Core Update 160 available for testing http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/155882 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines #Security [11:14] -TechrightsSocial/#boycottnovell-social-www.tuxmachines.org | IPFire 2.27 - Core Update 160 available for testing | Tux Machines [11:14] techrights-news #Google #Android Leftovers http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/155883 #Linux #TuxMachines [11:14] -TechrightsSocial/#boycottnovell-social-www.tuxmachines.org | Android Leftovers | Tux Machines [11:14] techrights-news NEWS #CounterPunch The Real Crime That General Milley Exposed https://www.counterpunch.org/2021/09/20/the-real-crime-that-general-milley-exposed/ [11:14] -TechrightsSocial/#boycottnovell-social-The Real Crime That General Milley Exposed - CounterPunch.org [11:15] techrights-news NEWS #DemocracyNow #Texas #Abortion Doctor: When We Ban Abortion, It Doesnt Stop the Need for People to Access Abortion https://www.democracynow.org/2021/9/20/texas_abortion_law_dr_bhavik_kumar [11:15] -TechrightsSocial/#boycottnovell-social-www.democracynow.org | Texas Abortion Doctor: When We Ban Abortion, It Doesnt Stop the Need for People to Access Abortion | Democracy Now! [11:15] techrights-news NEWS #CommonDreams #patent #patents #monopolies Campaigners to Biden: Stop Acting Like a #BigPharma 'Puppet' and Help Vaccinate the World https://www.commondreams.org/news/2021/09/20/campaigners-biden-stop-acting-big-pharma-puppet-and-help-vaccinate-world [11:15] -TechrightsSocial/#boycottnovell-social-www.commondreams.org | Campaigners to Biden: Stop Acting Like a Big Pharma 'Puppet' and Help Vaccinate the World [11:16] techrights-news NEWS #CommonDreams Avi Lewis Hoping Canadians' #Climate Concerns Deliver Electoral 'Upset of Epic Proportions' https://www.commondreams.org/news/2021/09/20/avi-lewis-hoping-canadians-climate-concerns-deliver-electoral-upset-epic-proportions [11:16] -TechrightsSocial/#boycottnovell-social-www.commondreams.org | Avi Lewis Hoping Canadians' Climate Concerns Deliver Electoral 'Upset of Epic Proportions' [11:48] techrights-news "The expectation that the whole internet is always online feels like a massive waste of resource. It should be ok for a capsule to say "hey, I'm not online. Come back later, or check this mirror". Instead we get fatal looking errors." https://lists.orbitalfox.eu/archives/gemini/2021/007155.html [11:48] -TechrightsSocial/#boycottnovell-social-lists.orbitalfox.eu | Not always online capsules [11:49] techrights-news "That sounds like an awesome idea! Although IIRC the definition of a server includes a system that is accessible 24/7 but your point makes sense." https://lists.orbitalfox.eu/archives/gemini/2021/007156.html [11:49] -TechrightsSocial/#boycottnovell-social-lists.orbitalfox.eu | Not always online capsules [11:51] techrights-news Daniel Cantarin (canta) wrote about how sites should not always be (expected to be) online, just as businesses are not always open. We have had this covered in the site years ago: techrights.org [11:52] techrights-news NEWS #TheNation #Florida Floridas #Pandemic Suicide Pact? https://www.thenation.com/article/activism/floridas-pandemic-suicide-pact/ [11:52] -TechrightsSocial/#boycottnovell-social-www.thenation.com | Floridas Pandemic Suicide Pact? | The Nation [11:52] techrights-news Public Origins of Covid Vaccine Technology Expose Indecency of #BigPharma #Pandemic Profits https://www.commondreams.org/views/2021/09/20/public-origins-covid-vaccine-technology-expose-indecency-big-pharma-pandemic #patent #patents #monopoly [11:52] -TechrightsSocial/#boycottnovell-social-www.commondreams.org | Opinion | Public Origins of Covid Vaccine Technology Expose Indecency of Big Pharma Pandemic Profits | John Buell [11:53] techrights-news NEWS #CommonDreams #Sanders Denounces a #Pentagon Budget System Found 'Inherently Susceptible to Fraud' https://www.commondreams.org/news/2021/09/20/sanders-denounces-pentagon-budget-system-found-inherently-susceptible-fraud that money is misused to give bailouts to criminals like #microsoft [11:53] -TechrightsSocial/#boycottnovell-social-www.commondreams.org | Sanders Denounces a Pentagon Budget System Found 'Inherently Susceptible to Fraud' [11:54] techrights-news NEWS #CommonDreams Opinion | Mayberry Redux: A Reality That Never Was https://www.commondreams.org/further/2021/09/20/mayberry-redux-reality-never-was [11:54] -TechrightsSocial/#boycottnovell-social-www.commondreams.org | Further | Mayberry Redux: A Reality That Never Was | Opinion [11:54] techrights-news Lots of #billgates apologists hiding under a rock these days... [11:58] techrights-news "Have a DNS TXT record that looks like OFFLINE: This site is currently offline. Please try again later. We could then show this instead of having just a "service unreachable" fault or something." https://lists.orbitalfox.eu/archives/gemini/2021/007157.html [11:58] -TechrightsSocial/#boycottnovell-social-lists.orbitalfox.eu | Not always online capsules ● Sep 21 [12:00] techrights-news The #covid19 #patent #cartel would rather throw doses in the trash (like Amazon puts returns in landfills and Burberry burns unsold handbags) then 'devalue' the product. https://www.commondreams.org/news/2021/09/20/atrocity-poor-go-without-rich-nations-set-let-100-million-covid-vaccines-rot #patents #greed [12:00] -TechrightsSocial/#boycottnovell-social-www.commondreams.org | 'An Atrocity': Poor Go Without as Rich Nations Set to Let 100 Million Covid Vaccines Rot [12:01] techrights-news The #covid19 #patent #cartel would rather throw doses in the trash (like Amazon puts returns in landfills and Burberry burns unsold handbags) than 'devalue' the product by giving it to those in dire need. https://www.commondreams.org/news/2021/09/20/atrocity-poor-go-without-rich-nations-set-let-100-million-covid-vaccines-rot #patents #greed [12:01] techrights-news NEWS #CommonDreams #abortion #SupremeCourt Announces Date for Case Directly Challenging #RoevWade https://www.commondreams.org/news/2021/09/20/supreme-court-announces-date-case-directly-challenging-roe-v-wade [12:01] -TechrightsSocial/#boycottnovell-social-www.commondreams.org | Supreme Court Announces Date for Case Directly Challenging Roe v. Wade [12:05] techrights-news NEWS #CounterPunch #Wildlife Don't Hack the Yaak https://www.counterpunch.org/2021/09/20/dont-hack-the-yaak/ [12:05] -TechrightsSocial/#boycottnovell-social-Don't Hack the Yaak - CounterPunch.org [12:09] techrights-news NEWS #FAIR Why Jake Tapper Never Asks How We Pay for #War https://fair.org/home/why-jake-tapper-never-asks-how-we-pay-for-war/ see https://tradingeconomics.com/united-states/government-debt [12:09] -TechrightsSocial/#boycottnovell-social-fair.org | Why Jake Tapper Never Asks How We Pay for War - FAIR [12:09] -TechrightsSocial/#boycottnovell-social-tradingeconomics.com | United States Government Debt | 1942-2021 Data | 2022-2023 Forecast | Historical [12:10] techrights-news NEWS #CommonDreams 'Do Better,' Say Advocates as Biden Seeks to Double Refugee Admissions https://www.commondreams.org/news/2021/09/20/do-better-say-advocates-biden-seeks-double-refugee-admissions Biden: we just bomb people, we don't try to save people [12:10] -TechrightsSocial/#boycottnovell-social-www.commondreams.org | 'Do Better,' Say Advocates as Biden Seeks to Double Refugee Admissions [12:11] techrights-news NEWS #MichaelGeist #Canada The Law Bytes Podcast, Episode 101: OpenMedias Laura Tribe on Digital Policy and the 2021 Canadian Election https://www.michaelgeist.ca/2021/09/law-bytes-podcast-episode-101/ [12:11] -TechrightsSocial/#boycottnovell-social-www.michaelgeist.ca | The Law Bytes Podcast, Episode 101: OpenMedia's Laura Tribe on Digital Policy and the 2021 Canadian Election - Michael Geist [12:13] techrights-news NEWS #Techdirt American #Malware Purveyor That Did Nothing To Limit Misuse Now Horrified To Find Gov't Of India Misused Its Products https://www.techdirt.com/articles/20210918/14570047587/american-malware-purveyor-that-did-nothing-to-limit-misuse-now-horrified-to-find-govt-india-misused-products.shtml [12:13] -TechrightsSocial/#boycottnovell-social-American Malware Purveyor That Did Nothing To Limit Misuse Now Horrified To Find Gov't Of India Misused Its Products | Techdirt [12:15] techrights-news NEWS #Techdirt #FCC FCC's Carr Still Pushing A Dumb #Telecom Tax On 'Big Tech' https://www.techdirt.com/articles/20210916/12405747577/fccs-carr-still-pushing-dumb-telecom-tax-big-tech.shtml [12:15] -TechrightsSocial/#boycottnovell-social-FCC's Carr Still Pushing A Dumb Telecom Tax On 'Big Tech' | Techdirt [12:16] techrights-news NEWS #CommonDreams #Climate #Minnesota As Gov. Tim Walz Proclaims 'Minnesota Climate Week,' Ilhan Omar Says 'Stop Line 3' https://www.commondreams.org/news/2021/09/20/gov-tim-walz-proclaims-minnesota-climate-week-ilhan-omar-says-stop-line-3 [12:16] -TechrightsSocial/#boycottnovell-social-www.commondreams.org | As Gov. Tim Walz Proclaims 'Minnesota Climate Week,' Ilhan Omar Says 'Stop Line 3' [12:19] techrights-news NEWS #TheNation The Age of Irrationality https://www.thenation.com/article/society/covid-denial-irrational/ [12:19] -TechrightsSocial/#boycottnovell-social-www.thenation.com | The Age of Irrationality | The Nation [12:20] techrights-news NEWS #CommonDreams #patent #patents #monopolies Opinion | 5 Urgent Steps Needed to Vaccinate the World and End This #Pandemic https://www.commondreams.org/views/2021/09/20/5-urgent-steps-needed-vaccinate-world-and-end-pandemic the media needs to focus on the main issue: greed and privateering of public research [12:20] -TechrightsSocial/#boycottnovell-social-www.commondreams.org | Opinion | 5 Urgent Steps Needed to Vaccinate the World and End This Pandemic | Jeffrey D. Sachs [12:21] techrights-news NEWS #CounterPunch #LosAngeles County Board of Supervisors Approves Motions to Phase Out #Oil and Gas Drilling https://www.counterpunch.org/2021/09/20/los-angeles-county-board-of-supervisors-approves-motions-to-phase-out-oil-and-gas-drilling/ [12:22] -TechrightsSocial/#boycottnovell-social-Los Angeles County Board of Supervisors Approves Motions to Phase Out Oil and Gas Drilling - CounterPunch.org [12:22] techrights-news NEWS #CommonDreams #Finance Opinion | The Simple, Effective Wealthy Surtax We Need https://www.commondreams.org/views/2021/09/20/simple-effective-wealthy-surtax-we-need [12:22] -TechrightsSocial/#boycottnovell-social-www.commondreams.org | Opinion | The Simple, Effective Wealthy Surtax We Need | Chuck Collins [12:22] techrights-news #Security and #ProprietarySoftware http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/155884 #TuxMachines [12:22] -TechrightsSocial/#boycottnovell-social-www.tuxmachines.org | Security and Proprietary Software | Tux Machines [12:26] techrights-news Later today #techrights will publish the full #RMS talk from #ukraine (AFAIK, his first IN-PERSON talk in over 2 years!) in a free/libre format. #fsf #gnu [12:43] techrights-news #Programming Leftovers tuxmachines.org/node/155885 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines [12:44] techrights-news #OpenHardware Leftovers http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/155886 [12:44] -TechrightsSocial/#boycottnovell-social-www.tuxmachines.org | Open Hardware Leftovers | Tux Machines [12:49] techrights-news Links 21/9/2021: Peg-E 1.3.0, CUPS 2.4 Coming Soon http://techrights.org/2021/09/21/cups-2-4-coming-soon/ #Techrights #GNU #Linux #FreeSW | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2021/09/21/cups-2-4-coming-soon/ [12:49] -TechrightsSocial/#boycottnovell-social-techrights.org | Links 21/9/2021: Peg-E 1.3.0, CUPS 2.4 Coming Soon | Techrights [12:52] techrights-news Todays #HowTos | #UNIX http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/155887 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines [12:52] -TechrightsSocial/#boycottnovell-social-www.tuxmachines.org | today's howtos | Tux Machines [12:53] techrights-news Linux #Kernel : #OpenVPN and #ENQCMD http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/155888 ##Linux #TuxMachines [12:53] -TechrightsSocial/#boycottnovell-social-www.tuxmachines.org | Linux Kernel: OpenVPN and ENQCMD | Tux Machines [12:53] techrights-news Audiocasts/Shows: Bad Documentation, Linux in the Ham Shack, and Late Night Linux http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/155889 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines [12:53] -TechrightsSocial/#boycottnovell-social-www.tuxmachines.org | Audiocasts/Shows: Bad Documentation, Linux in the Ham Shack, and Late Night Linux | Tux Machines [12:54] techrights-news Todays Leftovers http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/155890 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines [12:54] -TechrightsSocial/#boycottnovell-social-www.tuxmachines.org | today's leftovers | Tux Machines [12:57] techrights-news Limiting server uptime intentionally https://lists.orbitalfox.eu/archives/gemini/2021/007160.html [12:58] -TechrightsSocial/#boycottnovell-social-lists.orbitalfox.eu | Not always online capsules ● Sep 21 [13:11] techrights-news Couch co-op tower defense game D-Corp is officially out now | GamingOnLinux https://www.gamingonlinux.com/2021/09/couch-co-op-tower-defense-game-d-corp-is-officially-out-now #GamingOnLinux #GNU #Linux #Games [13:11] -TechrightsSocial/#boycottnovell-social-Couch co-op tower defense game D-Corp is officially out now | GamingOnLinux [13:12] techrights-news Valve amassing junk #swpats ... can "Linux" sites stop celebrating those? https://www.gamingonlinux.com/2021/09/new-patent-from-valve-appears-for-qinstant-playq-of-games-and-more #GamingOnLinux #GNU #Linux #Games [13:12] -TechrightsSocial/#boycottnovell-social-New patent from Valve appears for "instant play" of games and more | GamingOnLinux [13:15] techrights-news Renaissance painting adventure Death of the Reprobate announced as the final of the series | GamingOnLinux https://www.gamingonlinux.com/2021/09/renaissance-painting-adventure-death-of-the-reprobate-announced-as-the-final-of-the-series #GamingOnLinux #GNU #Linux #Games | more in http://schestowitz.com/2021/09/21/#latest [13:15] -TechrightsSocial/#boycottnovell-social-Renaissance painting adventure Death of the Reprobate announced as the final of the series | GamingOnLinux [13:15] -TechrightsSocial/#boycottnovell-social-schestowitz.com | Social Control Media Posts [13:17] techrights-news Top 10 unique Linux distros designed especially for a small niche of users http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/155891 [13:17] -TechrightsSocial/#boycottnovell-social-www.tuxmachines.org | Top 10 unique Linux distros designed especially for a small niche of users | Tux Machines [13:23] techrights-news #Games: D-Corp, Software Patents, and More http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/155892 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines [13:23] -TechrightsSocial/#boycottnovell-social-www.tuxmachines.org | Games: D-Corp, Software Patents, and More | Tux Machines [13:31] techrights-news Preparations for the Next Series and Further Improvements in #IPFS and #GeminiSpace http://techrights.org/2021/09/21/ipfs-and-gemini-improvements/ #epo #corruption #techrights [13:31] -TechrightsSocial/#boycottnovell-social-techrights.org | Preparations for the Next Series and Further Improvements in IPFS and Gemini | Techrights [13:50] techrights-news [Meme] The Best Quality Propaganda http://techrights.org/2021/09/21/joff-wild-propaganda/ #Techrights #EPO #Corruption #Patents #Europe | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2021/09/21/joff-wild-propaganda/ [13:50] -TechrightsSocial/#boycottnovell-social-techrights.org | [Meme] The Best Quality Propaganda | Techrights [13:51] *DaemonFC has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) ● Sep 21 [14:04] techrights-news Today in #Techrights http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/155893 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines [14:04] -TechrightsSocial/#boycottnovell-social-www.tuxmachines.org | Today in Techrights | Tux Machines [14:04] techrights-news " #China often does not really obey trade agreements it signs. I suspect that China thinks this one would be beneficial only because it expects to disobey. China may also protect Chinese workers from the full harm of the treaty, by disobeying it." https://stallman.org/archives/2021-jul-oct.html#20_September_2021_%28China_and_the_TPP%29 [14:04] -TechrightsSocial/#boycottnovell-social-stallman.org | 2021: July - October Political Notes - Richard Stallman [14:05] techrights-news #police vs #vaccine mandates: "In the specific case of thugs, the threatened resignations are a great opportunity to get rid of right-wingers, many of whom would be inclined to violate the human rights of blacks, protesters, and homeless people." https://stallman.org/archives/2021-jul-oct.html#20_September_2021_%28California_vaccination_requirement%29 [14:06] -TechrightsSocial/#boycottnovell-social-stallman.org | 2021: July - October Political Notes - Richard Stallman [14:06] techrights-news RMS: "There should be no religious exemptions from precautions for public safety. Your right to practice your religion does not include activities that endanger other people." Freedom is also at risk here. What's more, he should mention the #patent injustice of these vaccines. https://stallman.org/archives/2021-jul-oct.html#20_September_2021_%28California_vaccination_requirement%29 [14:08] techrights-news #microsoft #windows TCO? Microsoft uses all these breaches of its BACK-DOORED systems to demand closer cooperation with GOVERNMENTS? Is Microsoft a government? Are back doors OK? https://arstechnica.com/information-technology/2021/09/nation-state-espionage-group-breaches-alaska-department-of-health/ [14:08] -TechrightsSocial/#boycottnovell-social-arstechnica.com | Nation-state espionage group breaches Alaska Department of Health | Ars Technica [14:13] techrights-news #GIMP 2.10.28 Graphic Editor Release Download and Install on Linux http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/155777#comment-31052 [14:13] -TechrightsSocial/#boycottnovell-social-www.tuxmachines.org | GIMP 2.10.28 Released with Improvements and Bug Fixes, New Script-Fu Function | Tux Machines [14:14] techrights-news "Many indigenous groups that are entitled to participate in the Glasgow climate conference will be excluded by the fact that they can't get vaccinated against Covid-19. They have no access to vaccines." #patent #patents #monopolies #greed #cartel https://stallman.org/archives/2021-jul-oct.html#20_September_2021_%28Indigenous_groups_without_access_to_vaccines%29 [14:14] -TechrightsSocial/#boycottnovell-social-stallman.org | 2021: July - October Political Notes - Richard Stallman [14:18] techrights-news Todays #HowTos | #UNIX http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/155894 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines [14:18] -TechrightsSocial/#boycottnovell-social-www.tuxmachines.org | today's howtos | Tux Machines [14:20] techrights-news "How Rep. #BarbaraLee described her refusal to vote to authorize the US #war in #Afghanistan . Her speech reflects deep moral concern, and I honor her for that. Her expectations were generally valid." https://stallman.org/archives/2021-jul-oct.html#20_September_2021_%28Rep._Barbara_Lee%29 [14:20] -TechrightsSocial/#boycottnovell-social-stallman.org | 2021: July - October Political Notes - Richard Stallman [14:21] techrights-news Not good enough: #Apple , #Google bow to government pressure, censor content during Russian elections https://www.accessnow.org/apple-google-censor-russian-elections/ #russia #putin #ru [14:21] -TechrightsSocial/#boycottnovell-social-www.accessnow.org | Not good enough: Apple, Google bow to government pressure, censor content during Russian elections - Access Now [14:24] techrights-news It keeps happening over and over and over again. But rarely do they publicly admit it. Sometimes they drone the reporters who try to get the facts. https://www.reuters.com/world/asia-pacific/us-military-says-10-civilians-killed-kabul-drone-strike-last-month-2021-09-17/ [14:24] -TechrightsSocial/#boycottnovell-social-U.S. says Kabul drone strike killed 10 civilians, including children, in 'tragic mistake' | Reuters [14:24] techrights-news #Samba 4.15 Ships with a Modernized Virtual File System Modules http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/155895 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines [14:24] -TechrightsSocial/#boycottnovell-social-www.tuxmachines.org | Samba 4.15 Ships with a Modernized Virtual File System Modules | Tux Machines [14:24] techrights-news #Ubuntu Linux 14.04 and 16.04 each get a decade of support from Canonical http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/155896 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines [14:24] -TechrightsSocial/#boycottnovell-social-www.tuxmachines.org | Ubuntu Linux 14.04 and 16.04 each get a decade of support from Canonical | Tux Machines [14:26] techrights-news #oligarchs actively fighting against poor people, not against #poverty (which helps them lower salaries etc.) https://www.exposedbycmd.org/2021/09/16/koch-network-fights-to-stop-medicaid-expansion-in-remaining-states/ [14:26] -TechrightsSocial/#boycottnovell-social-www.exposedbycmd.org | Koch Network Fights to Stop Medicaid Expansion in Remaining States - EXPOSEDbyCMD [14:48] techrights-news #RichardStallman First Public Talk (Delivered in Person) in Years, Now With a Free Format http://techrights.org/2021/09/21/rms-ukraine-talk/ #Techrights #GNU #Ukraine #FreeSW | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2021/09/21/rms-ukraine-talk/ [14:48] -TechrightsSocial/#boycottnovell-social-techrights.org | Richard Stallmans First Public Talk (Delivered in Person) in Years, Now With a Free Format | Techrights [14:49] techrights-news 6 Top Linux Distros for Business PC or Laptops http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/155897 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines [14:49] -TechrightsSocial/#boycottnovell-social-www.tuxmachines.org | 6 Top Linux Distros for Business PC or Laptops | Tux Machines [14:49] techrights-news #Google #Android Leftovers http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/155898 #Linux #TuxMachines [14:49] -TechrightsSocial/#boycottnovell-social-www.tuxmachines.org | Android Leftovers | Tux Machines [14:50] techrights-news Canonical Extends Support of Ubuntu 14.04 and 16.04 to 10 Years http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/155896#comment-31053 [14:50] -TechrightsSocial/#boycottnovell-social-www.tuxmachines.org | Ubuntu Linux 14.04 and 16.04 each get a decade of support from Canonical | Tux Machines [14:56] techrights-news "It would please me to know whether a service has dropped off the map entirely or whether a person is moving house and unable to restart their Gemini instance in their new enclave." https://lists.orbitalfox.eu/archives/gemini/2021/007159.html [14:56] -TechrightsSocial/#boycottnovell-social-lists.orbitalfox.eu | Not always online capsules [14:58] techrights-news #ibm #layoffs #spain #rumour "They should really PIP those managers who think they're exempt from those 400 hours of learning and badges!" https://www.thelayoff.com/t/1cRwyyMx#replies [14:58] -TechrightsSocial/#boycottnovell-social-www.thelayoff.com | RAs starting today at Spain -- Ol!! - post regarding IBM layoffs [14:59] techrights-news New: "If #IBM executive management were any more tone-deaf and dependent on their little fantasy-world bubble, they could compete with the elitist crowd at this year's Emmys for "world's most annoying bunch of complete hypocrites"." https://www.thelayoff.com/t/1cTAKhed#replies [14:59] -TechrightsSocial/#boycottnovell-social-www.thelayoff.com | The Rise and Stagnation of IBM - post regarding IBM layoffs ● Sep 21 [15:00] techrights-news #Geminispace (or Geminispace) continues to expand quite rapidly and were utilising alternatives to the Web in order to improve access to information; at the moment #EPO publications are our priority http://techrights.org/2021/09/21/ipfs-and-gemini-improvements/ #Techrights | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2021/09/21/ipfs-and-gemini-improvements/ [15:02] techrights-news Full #RMS talk now available. The organisers of the conference have uploaded to YouTube, so weve converted everything to a free/libre format (and last night only an excerpt was published here). http://techrights.org/2021/09/21/rms-ukraine-talk/ #Techrights #GNU #FreeSW | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2021/09/21/rms-ukraine-talk/ [15:08] *psymin (~psymin@me3biw7mdts84.irc) has joined #boycottnovell-social [15:11] techrights-news "Video footage of a crowd of people stealing the belongings of car crash victims is making the rounds on social media" https://briefly.co.za/109919-haibo-video-locals-stealing-victims-stuff-after-car-crash-sa-unimpresseds.html [15:11] -TechrightsSocial/#boycottnovell-social-Haibo: Video Shows Locals Stealing Victims' Stuff After Car Crash, SA Unimpressed South Africa news | Briefly.co.za [15:14] techrights-news This is a #microsoft #windows issue and nothing to do with "LINUX". In fact, #wsl and #wsl2 are ATTACKS on GNU/Linux. https://marketresearchtelecast.com/runs-under-wsl-first-linux-malware-appeared-in-windows/160663/ [15:14] -TechrightsSocial/#boycottnovell-social-marketresearchtelecast.com | Runs under WSL: First Linux malware appeared in Windows - Market Research Telecast [15:17] techrights-news No, it is not a "Linux virus" but a Windows virus; Microsoft is trying to confuse people by calling Linux "Windows" and Windows "Linux" as that suits Microsoft, depending on the nefarious agenda https://marketresearchtelecast.com/tuesday-chip-shortage-skoda-hybrid-chernobyl-test-linux-virus-787-problem/160690 [15:17] -TechrightsSocial/#boycottnovell-social-marketresearchtelecast.com | Tuesday: Chip shortage, Skoda hybrid, Chernobyl test, Linux virus & 787 problem - Market Research Telecast [15:19] techrights-news "4-D nugget of gameplay that can either be viewed as a video, or played live within the bounds of the clip. The system is built on a modified version of the PyBoy emulator." https://hackaday.com/2021/09/21/interactive-clips-for-game-boy-sit-back-and-watch-or-take-control/ [15:19] -TechrightsSocial/#boycottnovell-social-Interactive Clips For Game Boy: Sit Back And Watch Or Take Control | Hackaday [15:20] techrights-news "After making the first steps with tmt and investigating the provisioning options lets now dive together a little bit more and look Under The Hood to see how plans, tests and stories work together on a couple of examples." https://communityblog.fedoraproject.org/tmt-hint-02-under-the-hood/ [15:20] -TechrightsSocial/#boycottnovell-social-communityblog.fedoraproject.org | tmt hint 02: under the hood Fedora Community Blog [15:21] techrights-news "As a consulting architect at Red Hat, I've had the privilege of working on legions of customer projects. Every customer brings their own challenges but I've found some commonalities. One thing most customers want to know is how to coordinate writes to more than one system of record." https://developers.redhat.com/articles/2021/09/21/distributed-transaction-patterns-microservices-compared [15:21] -TechrightsSocial/#boycottnovell-social-developers.redhat.com | Distributed transaction patterns for microservices compared | Red Hat Developer [15:23] techrights-news #openwashing #ibm spam in the dinosaur of a site that #linuxfoundation killed in 2019 https://www.linux.com/news/state-of-the-open-mainframe-2021/ [15:23] -TechrightsSocial/#boycottnovell-social-State of the Open Mainframe 2021 - Linux.com [15:24] techrights-news #redhat thinks we're using Macs like its CEO? https://opensource.com/article/21/9/run-containers-mac-lima see http://techrights.org/2020/08/02/red-hat-layoffs/ [15:24] -TechrightsSocial/#boycottnovell-social-Run containers on your Mac with Lima | Opensource.com [15:24] -TechrightsSocial/#boycottnovell-social-techrights.org | IBM is Already Gutting Red Hat and Firing Employees Without Warning, Jim Whitehurst Isnt Even Using GNU/Linux | Techrights [15:26] techrights-news Well, "transformation" is just a #marketing term for 'suits' buying lots of crap they do not need, sometimes overcomplicating what already worked OK https://enterprisersproject.com/article/2021/9/digital-transformation-4-tips-improve-speed [15:26] -TechrightsSocial/#boycottnovell-social-enterprisersproject.com | Digital transformation: 4 tips to improve your speed | The Enterprisers Project [15:31] techrights-news #ibm #redhat on #buzzword at the buzzword. This is written by someone with a buzzword as job title/role ;-) https://enterprisersproject.com/article/2021/9/artificial-intelligence-ai-edge-3-key-fact [15:31] -TechrightsSocial/#boycottnovell-social- ( status 404 @ https://enterprisersproject.com/article/2021/9/artificial-intelligence-ai-edge-3-key-fact ) [15:32] techrights-news #cat #jumping https://vid.pr0gramm.com/2021/08/27/83ec5dbbfe765a11.mp4 [15:36] techrights-news "there is an existing tool/format for archiving capsules for offline viewing" https://lists.orbitalfox.eu/archives/gemini/2021/007163.html #geminiSpace [15:36] -TechrightsSocial/#boycottnovell-social-lists.orbitalfox.eu | Not always online capsules [15:38] techrights-news "A complete always available solution could be to use something like #ipfs or such, but I think this looks not as I would like it. Too big, too complex." https://lists.orbitalfox.eu/archives/gemini/2021/007164.html [15:38] -TechrightsSocial/#boycottnovell-social-lists.orbitalfox.eu | Not always online capsules [15:39] techrights-news "Given Gemini's relative size I don't see this web paradigm making its way to gemini any time soon. Also, as this involves more online servers, its probably not what you'd want for an offline friendly set up, as you noted." https://lists.orbitalfox.eu/archives/gemini/2021/007165.html [15:39] -TechrightsSocial/#boycottnovell-social-lists.orbitalfox.eu | Not always online capsules [15:42] techrights-news #teamUPC #unitarypatent #upc #unifiedpatentcourt "Whatcomes to my mind is the expression "Fake it till you Make it", which for me sums up the times in which we live today. The market demands success, and so you must deliver exactly that, if you are to survive." @zoobab http://ipkitten.blogspot.com/2021/09/the-unified-patent-court-do-we-finally.html?showComment=1632212865289#c4221380959531279250 [15:42] -TechrightsSocial/#boycottnovell-social-ipkitten.blogspot.com | The Unified Patent Court. Do we finally have a predictable timeline? - The IPKat [15:43] techrights-news "And if you are a proponent of the UPC, the rule still applies. To impress the powers that be, you need to fake its success for as long as it takes to get the UPC up and running. All the way to the CJEU if need be." http://ipkitten.blogspot.com/2021/09/the-unified-patent-court-do-we-finally.html?showComment=1632212865289#c4221380959531279250 [15:45] techrights-news Naming and Shaming Captured Publications That Knowingly and Intentionally Published Fake News About the EUs #UnifiedPatentCourt So Far This Week http://techrights.org/2021/08/19/captured-media-telling-lies/ #Techrights #EU #fakenews #upc | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2021/08/19/captured-media-telling-lies/ [15:45] -TechrightsSocial/#boycottnovell-social-techrights.org | Naming and Shaming Captured Publications That Knowingly and Intentionally Published Fake News About the EUs Unified Patent Court So Far This Week | Techrights [15:46] techrights-news "The "until you make it" bit for UPC is when enough people have spent money on UPs that no court feels they can simply smash the UPC system on essentially technical grounds." http://ipkitten.blogspot.com/2021/09/the-unified-patent-court-do-we-finally.html?showComment=1632219620239#c6385743753685785332 [15:46] -TechrightsSocial/#boycottnovell-social-ipkitten.blogspot.com | The Unified Patent Court. Do we finally have a predictable timeline? - The IPKat [15:49] techrights-news The utterly rigged EBA still has the audacity to pretend that it's an objective tribunal? http://ipkitten.blogspot.com/2021/09/reasons-for-eba-referral-on.html see http://techrights.org/2021/06/26/g-121-epo-catastrophe/ #epo #corruption #europe #kangaroocourts #patents [15:49] -TechrightsSocial/#boycottnovell-social-ipkitten.blogspot.com | Reasons for an EBA referral on plausibility, post-published evidence and problem-solution - The IPKat [15:49] -TechrightsSocial/#boycottnovell-social-techrights.org | G 1/21 is a Catastrophe for the EPOs Legitimacy | Techrights [15:51] techrights-news "The U.S. Food and Drug Administration approved the first biosimilar drug for treating macular degeneration under the provisions of the Biologics Price Competition and Innovation Act (BPCIA, codified at 42 U.S.C. 262) as part of the Affordable Care Act of 2010 (colloquially known as "Obamacare")." https://www.patentdocs.org/2021/09/fda-approves-biosimilar-drug-for-treating-macular-degeneration.html [15:51] -TechrightsSocial/#boycottnovell-social-www.patentdocs.org | Patent Docs: FDA Approves Biosimilar Drug for Treating Macular Degeneration [15:53] techrights-news The corrupt #epo has apparently just updated this Web page about #bribery for crooked scholars willing to publish propaganda for the EPO: https://www.epo.org/learning/materials/academic-research-programme.html see http://techrights.org/wiki/EPO [15:53] -TechrightsSocial/#boycottnovell-social-www.epo.org | EPO - Academic Research Programme [15:53] -TechrightsSocial/#boycottnovell-social-techrights.org | EPO - Techrights [15:56] techrights-news #PatrickWingrove once again plays ball with crooked judges like Gilstrap and Albright from #Texas , was basically turned Texas #courts into for-profit corporations which distort the #law and issue BS rulings (that the high court, #CAFC , berates them for) https://www.managingip.com/article/b1tny6s4b1zdgs/exclusive-albright-to-select-new-patent-focused-judge-for-april [15:56] -TechrightsSocial/#boycottnovell-social-www.managingip.com | Exclusive: Albright to select new patent-focused judge for April | Managing Intellectual Property [15:59] techrights-news Let's see what they think when I send them a #patent application on behalf of a cockroach in my bath, insisting that this #cockroach is an #inventor that should be recognised by #USPTO https://www.lexology.com/library/detail.aspx?g=400b03df-fc98-405d-983c-1d6cd1a4b37f [15:59] -TechrightsSocial/#boycottnovell-social-Update on artificial intelligence: Court rules that AI cannot qualify as inventor - Lexology ● Sep 21 [16:03] techrights-news #Patents literally killing ill people who are poor https://www.law360.com/articles/1422908/pressure-mounts-on-uspto-to-join-drug-pricing-fight #patents #uspto #monopolies #cartel [16:03] -TechrightsSocial/#boycottnovell-social-Pressure Mounts On USPTO To Join Drug Pricing Fight - Law360 [16:05] techrights-news The #covid19 #patent #cartel isn't sending anything to poor countries. To keep the inflated pricing with #patents they're now pushing, like drug dealers, these vaccines to kids whose lives won't be saved by this (and they can still contract it regardless) https://www.nytimes.com/live/2021/09/20/world/covid-delta-variant-vaccine [16:05] -TechrightsSocial/#boycottnovell-social-www.nytimes.com | Covid News: Some Parents Arent Ready for Young Children to Get Vaccine - The New York Times [16:08] techrights-news New #nhs numbers in. Over 200 dead again in the #uk -- with #covid19 of course -- and highest number of fatalities for the week (highest since March). The real death toll is a lot higher than the #tories tell us: http://schestowitz.com/Weblog/archives/2021/09/15/wales-and-england-excess-deaths/ [16:08] -TechrightsSocial/#boycottnovell-social-schestowitz.com Blog Archive Wales and England Excess Deaths, by Week [16:09] techrights-news All that talk about "booster" will only discourage more people getting vaccinated http://schestowitz.com/Weblog/archives/2021/08/19/covid19-communication-strategy/ [16:09] -TechrightsSocial/#boycottnovell-social-schestowitz.com Blog Archive Vaccination is Good, But the Current Vaccination Strategy (of Overwhelming Fear/Hysteria) Will Fail to Convince Sceptical People [16:09] techrights-news #Fedora and #IBM / #RedHat Leftovers http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/155899 #GNU #Linux [16:09] -TechrightsSocial/#boycottnovell-social-www.tuxmachines.org | Fedora and IBM/Red Hat Leftovers | Tux Machines [16:10] techrights-news "there are two types or kinds of COVIDiots: people who think COVID-19 is Fake News and people who think it is Old News (hence they stop wearing masks, theyre overcrowding places etc.) and both groups are harmful for different but partly overlapping reasons." http://schestowitz.com/Weblog/archives/2021/09/03/borisnaro-data/ [16:10] -TechrightsSocial/#boycottnovell-social-schestowitz.com Blog Archive The Number of Brits Who Died (and Still Die) Because of COVID-19 is a Lot Higher Than the Official Figures [16:14] techrights-news #Patents killing millions of people so that a bunch of non-productive or unproductive executives can give themselves fatter paychecks and bonuses https://www.statnews.com/pharmalot/2021/09/20/patents-drug-prices-mylan-leahy/ #Patent #USPTO #cartel #monopolies [16:14] -TechrightsSocial/#boycottnovell-social-www.statnews.com | U.S. lawmakers accuse patent office of weakening challenges and allowing drug prices to rise - STAT [16:16] techrights-news Haha. #patent extremists at #watchtroll now write that #patents are "IP" and "Connecting US Innovation with National Security"; it's the same old fake panic, as if US will collapse if you don't advance patent maximalists' agenda (which they conflate with "innovation") http://techrights.org/wiki/index.php/Watchtroll [16:16] -TechrightsSocial/#boycottnovell-social-techrights.org | Watchtroll - Techrights [16:17] techrights-news This #propagandamill is, as usual, totally ignoring public interest groups; megaphone of the rich, presented as "news" https://www.managingip.com/article/b1tnrqp0wwsnpm/descriptive-dilemmas-how-counsel-manage-language-challenges #managingip [16:17] -TechrightsSocial/#boycottnovell-social-www.managingip.com | Descriptive dilemmas: how counsel manage language challenges | Managing Intellectual Property [16:20] techrights-news This is more #lobbying for rich people's brands, pretending enforcement in #India isn't enough and they're basically collaborating with criminals https://www.managingip.com/article/b1tp3gvqfvpjqb/how-anti-counterfeiting-agencies-con-indian-brand-owners [16:20] -TechrightsSocial/#boycottnovell-social-www.managingip.com | How anti-counterfeiting agencies con Indian brand owners | Managing Intellectual Property [16:27] techrights-news A lot of people who still get infected with #covid19 are poor people who sadly cannot isolate (shared housing and in-person jobs) or rich COVIDiots who believe #falseMarketing ... to the point of thinking that being vaccinated makes them invulnerable. So they spread it to other people, too... [16:28] techrights-news (and yes, people who go to football matches that are crowded and densely population are all COVIDiots too) [16:29] techrights-news Links 21/9/2021: Samba 4.15 and Ubuntu 14.04/16.04 Support for 10 Years http://techrights.org/2021/09/21/ubuntu-support-for-10-years/ #Techrights #GNU #Linux #FreeSW | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2021/09/21/ubuntu-support-for-10-years/ [16:29] -TechrightsSocial/#boycottnovell-social-techrights.org | Links 21/9/2021: Samba 4.15 and Ubuntu 14.04/16.04 Support for 10 Years | Techrights [16:31] techrights-news Opinion | I Ran the CDC. Heres #HowTo Prove That Americans Are Vaccinated. - The New York Times https://www.nytimes.com/2021/09/21/opinion/cdc-coronavirus-vaccine.html #nytimes should note that TESTING is more important than #vaccination in these contexts; vaccinated people are also carriers sometimes [16:31] -TechrightsSocial/#boycottnovell-social-www.nytimes.com | Opinion | I Ran the CDC. Heres How to Prove That Americans Are Vaccinated. - The New York Times [16:34] techrights-news Maybe stop asking (or repeating for) companies what they say about THEIR OWN products; they lie and it's their duty to shareholders to exaggerate and lie. Remember when they claimed 96% efficacy? Total BS! Now we have evidence. https://www.statnews.com/pharmalot/2021/09/21/covid19-vaccine-pandemic-jnj-india-patents/ [16:34] -TechrightsSocial/#boycottnovell-social-www.statnews.com | Pharmalittle: J&J says its Covid-19 shot is more effective in two doses [16:36] *psydroid3 (~psydroid@cqggrmwgu7gji.irc) has joined #boycottnovell-social [16:36] techrights-news #vaccination providers that make false claims about efficacy are in effect egging own clients to go around recklessly, passing around #covid19 based on a false sense of confidence. #patents #monopolies #falseMarketing [16:37] techrights-news Juice Galaxy (formerly Juice World) is the funniest game I've seen this month | GamingOnLinux https://www.gamingonlinux.com/2021/09/juice-galaxy-formerly-juice-world-is-the-funniest-game-ive-seen-this-month #GamingOnLinux #GNU #Linux #Games [16:37] -TechrightsSocial/#boycottnovell-social-Juice Galaxy (formerly Juice World) is the funniest game I've seen this month | GamingOnLinux [16:38] techrights-news Coding History: 3D from Mode7 to #DOOM needs a last push for their open source 3D engine | GamingOnLinux https://www.gamingonlinux.com/2021/09/coding-history-3d-from-mode7-to-doom-needs-a-last-push-for-their-open-source-3d-engine #GamingOnLinux #GNU #Linux #Games [16:38] -TechrightsSocial/#boycottnovell-social-Coding History: 3D from Mode7 to DOOM needs a last push for their open source 3D engine | GamingOnLinux [16:39] techrights-news "Final Fantasy XIV is a juggernaut of an MMO despite releasing 11 years ago! Want to play it on Linux? There's good news, and there's bad news." https://yewtu.be/watch?v=VhLv8XQH66A #games #gnu #linux [16:39] -TechrightsSocial/#boycottnovell-social-yewtu.be | How To Play Final Fantasy XIV On Linux #SteamProton - Invidious [16:41] techrights-news Web browsers have become overly bloated crap that takes away freedom, even when some code is available and liberally licensed https://bkhome.org/news/202109/another-attempt-to-compile-chromium.html [16:41] -TechrightsSocial/#boycottnovell-social-bkhome.org | Another attempt to compile Chromium [16:42] techrights-news #Games: Juice Galaxy, Coding History, and More http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/155900 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines [16:42] -TechrightsSocial/#boycottnovell-social-www.tuxmachines.org | Games: Juice Galaxy, Coding History, and More | Tux Machines [16:43] techrights-news #ibm still does development???? https://developer.ibm.com/blogs/dev-diaries-observability-driven-development-using-instana/ [16:43] -TechrightsSocial/#boycottnovell-social-developer.ibm.com | Developer diaries: Observability-driven development using Instana IBM Developer [16:44] techrights-news The company where I work has just turned 23. Yesterday. [16:45] techrights-news "I've been trying to put together a very simple C toy client - just enought to connect to a Gemini server and get a page (no UI). My goal is to figure out how a client connects, wrap a Common Lisp CFFI and make a Common Lisp client (which is why C is a requirement)." https://lists.orbitalfox.eu/archives/gemini/2021/007166.html [16:45] -TechrightsSocial/#boycottnovell-social-lists.orbitalfox.eu | A simple/toy client in C [16:48] techrights-news #redhat "doesn't necessarily suck but it's just $3B revenue, #ibm tried to show that it grows by 20% but we all know that's because ibm probably moved some legacy sw in same bu to make it look that way. Ibm paid a massive 34B for it, that's the real issue." https://www.thelayoff.com/t/1cVP6I2a#replies [16:48] -TechrightsSocial/#boycottnovell-social-www.thelayoff.com | Who is eating IBM's lunch? - post regarding IBM layoffs [16:49] techrights-news "Now you are starting to get it #IBM / #Kyndryl has to offshore the low margin services [...] This satisfies IBM as they are transitioning to an IP [sic] #patents strategy for this business anyway. Its just a matter of dotting the is and crossing the ts" https://www.thelayoff.com/t/1cRwyyMx#replies [16:49] -TechrightsSocial/#boycottnovell-social-www.thelayoff.com | RAs starting today at Spain -- Ol!! - post regarding IBM layoffs [16:50] techrights-news #ibm is like #microsoft in the sense that it 1) lobbies for horrible #swpata and 2) arms #patentTrolls http://techrights.org/2017/08/31/finjan-blue-and-ibm/ [16:50] -TechrightsSocial/#boycottnovell-social-techrights.org | IBM Helps a Microsoft-Connected Patent Troll Create Another Trolling Branch, Known as Finjan Blue | Techrights [16:56] techrights-news Is this news or advertising? Juve seems to have reinvented itself as a spam/promotion site for law firms, not the reporting site it was around 2015 (when it wrote about EPO corruption) https://www.juve-patent.com/news-and-stories/cases/hubersuhner-enforces-utility-model-in-train-wifi-antennas-dispute/ see http://techrights.org/wiki/index.php/Juve [16:56] -TechrightsSocial/#boycottnovell-social-www.juve-patent.com | Huber+Suhner enforces utility model in train wifi antennas dispute - JUVE Patent [16:56] -TechrightsSocial/#boycottnovell-social-techrights.org | Juve - Techrights [16:57] techrights-news #PatrickWingrove pushing #softwarepatents agenda using meaningless #buzzwords and #fluff such as "Hey Hi" (infantile reporting hallmark) https://www.managingip.com/article/b1tp6fqvpj8dqh/ipo-annual-meeting-speakers-set-out-ai-healthcare-challenges http://techrights.org/wiki/index.php/Software_Patents_in_Europe [16:57] -TechrightsSocial/#boycottnovell-social-www.managingip.com | IPO Annual Meeting: Speakers set out AI healthcare challenges | Managing Intellectual Property [16:57] -TechrightsSocial/#boycottnovell-social-techrights.org | Software Patents in Europe - Techrights [16:59] techrights-news People should ask #Birss to grant #patents to their pets too, as he's obviously lost in a cluster of meaningless buzzwords and he forgot what #patent #law is or what it is for https://www.managingip.com/article/b1tp8yqlb4qkws/uk-court-rejects-dabus-appeal-but-birss-dissents [16:59] -TechrightsSocial/#boycottnovell-social-www.managingip.com | UK court rejects DABUS appeal but Birss dissents | Managing Intellectual Property ● Sep 21 [17:15] techrights-news Crank up the volume on that Pixies album: Time to exercise your #RaspberryPi with an... alternative browser https://www.theregister.com/2021/09/20/flow_redux/ [17:15] -TechrightsSocial/#boycottnovell-social-www.theregister.com | Crank up the volume on that Pixies album: Time to exercise your Raspberry Pi with an... alternative browser The Register [17:19] techrights-news Todays #HowTos | #UNIX http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/155902 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines [17:19] -TechrightsSocial/#boycottnovell-social-www.tuxmachines.org | today's howtos | Tux Machines [17:22] techrights-news Samba 4.15 Released With Improved CLI Experience, Modernized VFS Interface http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/155895#comment-31057 [17:22] -TechrightsSocial/#boycottnovell-social-www.tuxmachines.org | Samba 4.15 Ships with a Modernized Virtual File System Modules | Tux Machines [17:25] techrights-news Brad Linder has turned a site called #LinuxSmartphones into #microsoft #spam at least at the RSS feed's level. He should not have done that. People didn't subscribe for this... [17:26] techrights-news Why Universal Linux Apps are GREAT! - Invidious https://yewtu.be/watch?v=-FQmE24Bzzs #video #invidious [17:26] -TechrightsSocial/#boycottnovell-social-yewtu.be | Why Universal Linux Apps are GREAT! - Invidious [17:28] techrights-news More #surveillance through cruft from #google ... reject it all and adopt #freesw https://www.maketecheasier.com/google-museletter-publish-newsletters/ [17:28] -TechrightsSocial/#boycottnovell-social-www.maketecheasier.com | Google Experimenting with Museletter to Publish Newsletters - Make Tech Easier [17:30] techrights-news #Graphics : AMD, Mesa, and Vulkan http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/155903 #Kernel #Linux #TuxMachines [17:30] -TechrightsSocial/#boycottnovell-social-www.tuxmachines.org | Graphics:AMD, Mesa, and Vulkan | Tux Machines [17:39] *DaemonFC (~DaemonFC@e5ifhyuxg6s7y.irc) has joined #boycottnovell-social [17:43] *liberty_box has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [17:43] *rianne_ has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [17:58] *rianne_ (~rianne@qhduu73fcjmdn.irc) has joined #boycottnovell-social [17:59] *liberty_box (~liberty@qhduu73fcjmdn.irc) has joined #boycottnovell-social ● Sep 21 [18:53] *rianne_ has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [18:53] *liberty_box has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [18:55] *DaemonFC has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) ● Sep 21 [19:00] *rianne_ (~rianne@qhduu73fcjmdn.irc) has joined #boycottnovell-social [19:00] *liberty_box (~liberty@qhduu73fcjmdn.irc) has joined #boycottnovell-social [19:54] *rianne_ has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [19:55] *liberty_box has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) ● Sep 21 [20:54] *rianne_ (~rianne@qhduu73fcjmdn.irc) has joined #boycottnovell-social [20:54] *liberty_box (~liberty@qhduu73fcjmdn.irc) has joined #boycottnovell-social ● Sep 21 [21:16] *liberty_box has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [21:16] *rianne_ has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [21:46] *psydroid3 has quit (connection closed) ● Sep 21 [22:46] *DaemonFC (~DaemonFC@e4z63rvppmwhu.irc) has joined #boycottnovell-social ● Sep 21 [23:22] *DaemonFC has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [23:44] *DaemonFC (~DaemonFC@jqw6a9nnkevmk.irc) has joined #boycottnovell-social ● Sep 21 [00:50] *techrights_guest|29 (~519aac55@54n9xgft8g6u2.irc) has joined #techpol ● Sep 21 [01:56] *techrights_guest|29 has quit (Quit: Connection closed) ● Sep 21 [04:22] activelow interesting, it isn't trivial and not common to set TAI (atomic time) on linux systems [04:23] activelow UTC leap seconds are weird, and unnecessary too; in 50years UTC and TAI drifted 27seconds, now in total it is 37seconds which TAI is ahead of UTC [04:24] activelow i think, leap seconds are a design flaw in POSIX timestamping with UTC [04:25] activelow had this on my TODO list to verify TAI timezone for years, and never finished this [04:27] *DaemonFC has quit (connection closed) [04:34] activelow and the explanation for those leap-seconds is inconclusive, since TAI (atomic clock) tick rate has *always* been too fast relative to UTC (solar clock) in the last 50 years [04:37] activelow and, setting a system to TAI atomic clock is critical too, because it is more dangerous to re-sync a clock which ticked ahead too fast than a one which ticked too slow ● Sep 21 [07:20] *psydroid3 (~psydroid@cqggrmwgu7gji.irc) has joined #techpol ● Sep 21 [08:45] gustaf dunno why TAI isn't more popular [08:45] gustaf guess it's more convenient to grab the GPS analog as input to NTP etc but still base everything on UTC [08:45] gustaf maybe regulatory issues? [08:55] kingoffrance i dont follow these things, but https://cr.yp.to/time.html [08:55] -TechPolBot/#techpol-cr.yp.to | NO TITLE [08:56] kingoffrance quote Previous Internet clock protocols include TIME and NTP. TIME offers only 1-second precision, which is inadequate for many applications; TAI64NA offers 1-attosecond precision. Both TIME and NTP use time formats that will roll over in 2038; the TAI64NA format will last for hundreds of billions of years. The NTP timescale is based on UTC, posing problems for real-time applications whenever a leap second occurs; the TAI64NA timescale is based on T [08:56] kingoffrance AI. [08:56] kingoffrance of course, lots of people dont like djb software for various reasons [08:56] gustaf licensing used to be problematic [08:56] gustaf at least for qmail ● Sep 21 [11:07] *DaemonFC (~DaemonFC@neukgmjr6gmt8.irc) has joined #techpol [11:09] *psydroid2 has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [11:09] *psydroid3 has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [11:53] *psydroid2 (~psydroid@eitv7zet4whwy.irc) has joined #techpol ● Sep 21 [12:41] *psydroid2 has quit (connection closed) [12:41] *psydroid2 (~psydroid@eitv7zet4whwy.irc) has joined #techpol ● Sep 21 [13:51] *DaemonFC has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) ● Sep 21 [14:21] MinceR no, leap seconds exist to compensate for changes in earth's rotational speed [14:21] MinceR which is mostly slowing, but it's also unpredictable [14:28] gustaf yeah I know but there's no reason not to treat UTC (basis for civil time) any different from timezones, and just include the delta from TAI as a zone file [14:28] gustaf and then apply that on display [14:29] gustaf but Google, who presumably could do such a thing, implemented time smearing instead, so they know somethin we donw [14:30] gustaf I guess just getting rid of hte leap second is the best way forward [14:38] gustaf here's a series of slides that are intereting https://web.archive.org/web/20170208050335/http://tycho.usno.navy.mil/papers/ts-2014/Matsakis-LeapSecondComments.URSI-2014.pdf [14:43] MinceR google probably has technical debt in time handling :> [14:44] MinceR also, handling leap seconds as if they were a time zone offset would be hell [14:44] gustaf mmmm [14:44] gustaf slowly coming around to eliminating the leap second ● Sep 21 [15:00] MinceR do they have plans to regulate the rotation of the earth? [15:01] MinceR or just to create an everlasting unbroken cloud cover that prevents sunlight from reaching the surface, thus eliminating any concerns about the day/night cycle [15:04] *psydroid2 has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) ● Sep 21 [16:13] kingoffrance thought these were interesting reads, havent used, dont now anything about it, just saw first story mentioned in links https://arcan-fe.com/2021/09/20/arcan-as-operating-system-design/ https://arcan-fe.com/2018/11/16/the-x-network-transparency-myth/ [16:13] -TechPolBot/#techpol-arcan-fe.com | Arcan as Operating System Design | Arcan [16:13] -TechPolBot/#techpol-arcan-fe.com | The X Network Transparency Myth | Arcan [16:14] kingoffrance namely "Arcan is a single-user, user-facing, networked overlay operating system." [16:14] kingoffrance implying that they are ok trying to run inside locked-down other systems [16:15] kingoffrance people have debated that as waste of resources etc. [16:15] kingoffrance or why would you bother with such a closed env. [16:15] kingoffrance quote s such it follows a most pervasive trend in hardware. That trend is treating the traditional OS kernel as a necessary evil to work around while building the real operating system elsewhere. [16:16] kingoffrance quote The latest take on this subject on the time of writing this is parts of cloud; routing- and subjecting- things to someone elses computing between source (producer) and sink (consumer). [16:16] kingoffrance quote An example: In the nineties it was absurd to think that the entire vertical (all the layers) from datastore all the way to display would have an unbroken chain of trust. The wettest of dreams that the Hollywood establishment had was that media playback was completely protected from the user tampering with- or even observing- the data stream until presented. That is now far from absurd; it is the assumed default reality [16:16] kingoffrance anyway the video at bottom "This demonstrates live migration between different kinds of clients moving to arcan instances with different levels of native integration and no intermediaries. As a native display server on OpenBSD in the centre to a limited application on the laptop to the left (OSX) and to a native display server on the pinephone on the right." that is how it should be [16:17] kingoffrance s/bottom/one-fifth of way thru/ [16:19] kingoffrance quote With overlay operating system I mean that it is built from user-facing components. Arcan takes whatever you have access to and expands from there. It is not hinged on the life and death of neither the Linux kernel, the BSD ones or any other for that matter. Instead it is a vagabond that will move to whatever ecosystem you can develop and run programs on, even if that means being walled inside an app store somewhere. [16:21] activelow earth isn't rotating too slow, nor did this require any regulation; TAI tick rate is too fast [16:23] activelow anyway, SNTP is what i am using, which required some caution too to use correctly [16:24] activelow because the sntpd server daemon does not sync the time although it syncs against a clock source, only ntpclient does sync which must be executed manually, which i do with a cron job ow [16:24] activelow now [16:26] activelow most other ntp implementations are too complicated for me; the openbsd openntpd (which i had chosen initially) is buggy on linux [16:30] activelow none of this allowed me to choose TAI timezone without leap seconds; [16:31] activelow a system clock should NOT introduce leap seconds at all, it should be monotonic with stict tick-rate precision, and not depend on 1s-interval leaps [16:32] activelow strict [16:32] activelow and then a desired time-zone calculation derive the local-time from TAI [16:34] activelow besides, leap-seconds seem unknown in advance, to distribute timezone data for some years in advance to know when these shall occur [16:36] *psydroid3 (~psydroid@cqggrmwgu7gji.irc) has joined #techpol [16:37] activelow precision time protocol (instead of NTP) relies on system clock being TAI, that's the first fundemental difference here, meaning the system clock would be 37s ahead of internet time [16:38] activelow no problem, if software handles this correctly, meaning UTC is a timezone relative to TAI, and NTP servers should distribute TAI withoug leap instead of UTC [16:39] activelow problem is if any system clock was set 37s ahead of time and didn't recognise the UTC time zone correctly, because a clock which is ahead of time is more difficult to re-sync than a clock which is drifting behind [16:40] activelow which raises the question again why TAI tick rate is too fast, because this is what NIST and similar should think about (and probably do), to redefine TAI to be marginally slower than solar time [16:41] activelow since then all NTP servers and system clocks could sync against TAI directly, and adjusting the clock only required some jump forward (instead of backward which is the real horror) [16:44] activelow so, both are broken by design: TAI and UTC(NTP) [16:45] activelow and if system clock is simply set to TAI/monotinic then this potentially breaks network protocols (Kerberos) if a host reports 37s ahead of time [16:45] activelow monotonic [16:47] activelow so, what needs to be done is 1) ensure first all system clocks are set to TAI not attached to NTP(!!!) and 2) UTC is derived correctly as timezone [16:47] activelow i think this is how stratum-1 should treat it, not sure [16:50] activelow "According to John Eidson, who led the IEEE 1588-2002 standardization effort, 'IEEE 1588 is designed to fill a niche not well served by either of the two dominant protocols, NTP and GPS'" [16:59] MinceR 21 173254 <@activelow> and then a desired time-zone calculation derive the local-time from TAI [16:59] MinceR something like this would be workable [16:59] MinceR though TAI->UTC should be distinct from time zone offsets, as they have nothing to do with each other [16:59] MinceR > TAI tick rate is too fast, [16:59] MinceR it isn't ● Sep 21 [17:00] MinceR changes in the rotation speed of earth are not predictable [17:00] MinceR things like earthquakes sometimes change it [17:00] MinceR the length of one second is well defined [17:04] activelow MinceR: TAI tick rate was *always* too fast since (atomic); and TAI tickrate should have been slower than UTC (solar) to begin with [17:13] activelow better to say, TAI-tickrate/second definition is flawed, a TAI second should require more Caesium-atom-ticks per second than it does, to *slowly* drift behind solar time instead of ahead of it. [17:14] activelow i doubt this can be or should be altered now, GPS time could have adressed this issue but didn't either, GPS in essence is monotonic TAI with a timezone offset. [17:14] MinceR sounds like you want UT1, not TAI [17:14] MinceR TAI is supposed to advance at a rate of 1 second at all times [17:16] activelow no, it isn't [17:16] activelow UT1 is a solar-time, i want atomic-time with a definition of 1second drifting very slow behind solar time [17:17] activelow although, as said, this cannot be fixed anymore i think, GPS didn't; [17:18] activelow with very slow i mean, the smallest possible drift-error to remain behind solar-time; this should have been the definition of TAI-seconds [17:19] activelow i am not aware of any explanation why ITU-T/NIST/CIA or whoever defined TAI-seconds to drift ahead of solar time/UTC [17:19] activelow because this is *very* dangerous [17:20] activelow or, maybe, i am in error [17:20] activelow it is related to order-of-events in distributed systems, and local time-stamps [17:20] psydruid > implying that they are ok trying to run inside locked-down other systems [17:20] psydruid that is what I gathered from it too, although I can also understand they don't want to pin themselves to a specific kernel [17:21] psydruid if it implements the interfaces Arcan needs, it should be able to run without problems too [17:22] psydruid I haven't read the article yet, but will do so in the course of next week [17:24] activelow i remember some argument GPS had limited precision for civilian use, which probably involves TAI/UTC clock too, because navigation requires an accurate and precise clock, and distributed clock synchronization [17:25] activelow so, they use GPS directly, problem solved, but the problem of synching UTC against a TAI which is ticking too fast isn't solved [17:28] activelow and i do not see any benefit anwyere for TAI ticking too fast ahead of UTC, it *always* did, so this probably was by (flawed) design [17:30] activelow if it didn't NTP could have distributed TAI directly; and UTC A) was either easily set as timezone to calculate localtime accordingly or 2) system time correction required to jump-forward from TAI to UTC only, which had prevented irregular order-of-events in logfiles kept with timestamps [17:32] activelow instead nowadays i couldn't easily configure TAI atomic-time with gnu/linux because ITU-T/NIST/CIA or whoever screwed this [17:33] MinceR TAI is 1 second at a time by definition [17:33] MinceR if you want "drifting", that won't be 1 second at a time [17:33] activelow TAI doesn't drift, UTC does [17:34] MinceR GPS doesn't care about the rotation of the Earth, as far as positioning goes [17:34] activelow because 1)TAI is ticking too fast, AND 2) because of solar rotational errors; TAI ticking too fast is the real problem [17:36] activelow had read ITU-T was discussing this issue but didn't decide on schedule, because the solution would be to re-define TAI tick rate which is a worse threat to critical infrastructure/GPS than a broken NTP/UTC system [17:36] MinceR well, i like my seconds lasting for 1 second [17:37] activelow with a margin of error of 37seconds [17:38] activelow and the potential threat of unordered UTC-timestamps in logfiles due to leap required [17:38] *psydroid2 (~psydroid@cqggrmwgu7gji.irc) has joined #techpol [17:38] MinceR there's no error of 37 seconds in that [17:38] MinceR days lasting longer than 24*60*60 seconds is not an issue with how long seconds are [17:39] activelow TAI tickrate is too fast, *always*, this is the issue [17:39] *DaemonFC (~DaemonFC@e5ifhyuxg6s7y.irc) has joined #techpol [17:40] activelow this is the explanation why NTP serves do not distribute TAI and localtime being derived as UTC-timezone [17:41] activelow servers [17:43] MinceR even if seconds were longer, it wouldn't help because you still wouldn't be able predict when an earthquake slows down earth's rotation next (or speeds it up, even) ● Sep 21 [18:11] activelow MinceR: earth rotation did not speed up, instead TAI *always* ticked too fast ahead which it never should have by definition [18:31] MinceR define your own seconds, then [18:46] activelow even worse than the already flawed definition which exists, because the timebase of TAI isn't abandoned [18:46] activelow in distributed systems relative clocks/timestamps are used anyway; lamport algorithm [18:55] *DaemonFC has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) ● Sep 21 [19:04] activelow and, there is two zoneinfo databases on linux: /usr/share/zoneinfo (contains leap-seconds.list) and /usr/share/zoneinfo-leaps (without leap-seconds.list) [19:05] activelow maybe, that's why openbsd openntpd was unstable and remained unsynced on gnu/linux, because it required another zoneinfo databse? [19:05] MinceR \_()_/ [19:05] activelow exactly, this is the problem. and it involves a time-delta of 37seconds in total. [19:06] activelow besides potential hazards with unordered timestamps in log-files, system clock synced against TAI ticking too fast etc. [19:13] activelow "Hacked NTP servers which produce a time scale other than UTC could be a source of confusion for conforming NTP clients which expect UTC. Such NTP servers are frowned upon and must be very carefully managed so that they are not mistakenly used by normal NTP clients." [19:13] activelow https://www.ucolick.org/~sla/leapsecs/right+gps.html [19:13] -TechPolBot/#techpol-www.ucolick.org | "right"+GPS [19:24] activelow and it is very irritating a simple TAI entry doesn't exist in either zoneinfo or zoneinfo-right; and i do know at least one networking protocol which becomes irritated, Kerberos [19:57] activelow weird: https://dpaste.org/50LY [19:57] -TechPolBot/#techpol-dpaste.org | dpaste/50LY (Bash) [19:58] activelow swapping zoneinfo against zoneinfo-leaps doesn't report a different localtime although it should, i think ● Sep 21 [20:13] gustaf activelow: wtf, a TAI second is an SI second [20:13] gustaf it's a fundamental unit [20:14] gustaf back when the second was first defined, they took astronomical observations over a hundred years or so and used that [20:15] gustaf obvisouly that's a snapshot of the earth's rotation as measured against distant star [20:15] gustaf but if you're using seconds for anything other than timekeeping you don't want it to change [20:16] gustaf the time when we measured SI units against some physical object (like the Earth rotation) is long gone [20:17] gustaf > The second is defined as being equal to the time duration of 9,192,631,770 periods of the radiation corresponding to the transition between the two hyperfine levels of the fundamental unperturbed ground-state of the caesium-133 atom. [20:18] gustaf MinceR: a hypothetical leap-second "timezone info" would not be the same as the regular TZ, but it could be handled in the same way [20:19] gustaf IERS announces a leap second, it's entered in the "tz file", that is distributed to computer systems, and the UTC view is consistent [20:19] gustaf meanwhile TAI is used internally [20:22] activelow yes, TAI *defines* the second based on caesium atomic clock ticks, and a TAI atomic-time second is too short(fast) relative to solar-time; which cannot be changed anymore [20:22] gustaf solar time will change [20:22] gustaf inevitably [20:22] gustaf but unpredictably [20:23] gustaf see the PDF I posted [20:23] activelow yes, question is if TAI shouldn't have been slower relative to solar from the beginning, and by how much [20:24] activelow and regarldess of this, i wanted both TAI "timezone" and system clock with linux here, to verify [20:24] activelow such as attaching a dcf-77 or gps receiver, set system clock to TAI-0 without any offset, and then maybe a custom localtime calculated from TAI as a timezone [20:25] gustaf https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Second#Fraction_of_an_ephemeris_year [20:25] -TechPolBot/#techpol-en.wikipedia.org | Second - Wikipedia [20:25] gustaf yeah sure that would work [20:25] gustaf DCF-77 follows German civil time, leap seconds and all [20:25] gustaf DST too! [20:26] gustaf don't use it [20:26] gustaf you'll be deriving UTC "backwards" [20:26] activelow it doesn't, no, 1) because NTP servers distribute a smeared/leaped UTC, and 2) it isn't obvious which timezone data should be configured with gnu/linux (see my test script which should have reported a delta but it didn't) [20:26] gustaf that depends on the NTP client/server [20:27] activelow exactly, and reminder i couldn't find the bug yet why openbsd openntpd on linux didn't report "synced" state when attached to stratum-1 time server (such as Braunschweig atomic clock ntp server) [20:28] MinceR gustaf: as long as you add both [20:30] gustaf yeah sure [20:30] gustaf but no-one has gone that route (AFAIK) [20:31] gustaf UTC+leaps is too ingrained probbaly [20:32] activelow putting UTC aside for example, assuming a very precise/accurate time source existed, such as TAI atomic clock in Braunschweig, then system clock is set to this to tick at exactly this rate without any offset initially, simply say linux system clock is set to TAI-0 [20:33] activelow which zoneinfo should be applied in /etc/localtime to get a recent current UTC (TAI=UTC+37s)? [20:35] gustaf this seems to have some info https://superuser.com/questions/1156693/is-there-a-way-of-getting-correct-clock-tai-on-linux [20:35] -TechPolBot/#techpol-superuser.com | time - Is there a way of getting correct CLOCK_TAI on Linux? - Super User [20:36] activelow gustaf: wrong question, i want system clock be set to TAI, not derive TAI from a smeared/leaped UTC [20:37] gustaf don't think you can do that inside the OS, you need a reference time outside [20:38] gustaf an the Braunschweig clock(s) don't provide TAI directly, they're part of an international network of clocks that are coordinated to produce TAI [20:39] activelow Precistion Time Protocol (PTP) does define the desired behaviour, which is IEEE 1588 standard (not ITU-T or any internet RFC) [20:39] gustaf yeha I've seen that [20:39] activelow besides higher precision of PTP this protocol defines a different timebase: which is TAI-0 instead of smeared/leaped UTC [20:40] activelow initially, i am curious about a correct timebase of gnu/linux to keep system clock synched and stable at TAI-0 timebase, not UTC [20:40] activelow and then, next, derive UTC as localtime/timezone so this doesn't screw up Kerberos for example [20:41] activelow and it is very weird too GPS didn't keep TAI-0 but added an offset again but retains TAI-0 tickrate (ticking too fast relative to solar) [20:42] gustaf GPS time ticks at one SI second [20:43] activelow yes, and added an offset to TAI-0 again. [20:43] gustaf there are plenty of offsets [20:43] gustaf LORAN uses another one I believe [20:44] gustaf the point is they all advance one SI second [20:45] gustaf truly, modern timekeeping is a marvel [20:46] gustaf http://www.leapsecond.com/ten/clock-powers-of-ten-tvb.pdf [20:47] activelow strange, reading german wikipedia: "LORAN was designed to compensate for signal runtime", loose translation. Analog signals do NOT have a runtime, such signals disperse/phase-shift, an electromagnetic signal does NOT have a "runtime" (speed-of-light quackery) [20:53] MinceR it would be an interesting design for a new OS to keep system time as TAI [20:54] MinceR but good luck multi-booting that and having other OS-es to handle it that way too :> [20:54] activelow you are confusing issues again [20:55] activelow a clock can easily be set to TAI-0 and keep it at that, but in a distributed system with NTP involved and timezone calculation the horror begins [20:56] gustaf leave timezones out of it [20:56] gustaf only consider UTC [20:57] activelow UTC is a timezone relative to TAI-0, GPS too is a timezone relative to TAI-0; and worse UTC is a non-monotonic smeared time [20:57] gustaf no it's not a timezone [20:57] activelow setting TAI-0 means syncing against NTP/UTC, and set CLOCK=CLOCK+37s; good luck with that when dealing with kerberos protocol [20:57] gustaf that has a specific meaning [20:59] gustaf timezones are defined off UTC [20:59] activelow instead these should be defined relative to TAI-0 [20:59] gustaf also don't use solar time, astronomical time (UT1) is based on distant quasars ● Sep 21 [21:00] gustaf tehre's no such thing as TAI-9 [21:00] gustaf *TAI-0 [21:00] gustaf only TAI [21:01] activelow except PTP ieee 1588 which does not use NTP/UTC timebase [21:01] gustaf ... [21:01] gustaf NTP is a protocol [21:01] activelow PTP too [21:04] activelow i can live with NTP/UTC distributing smeared/leaped time [21:05] activelow but, it is annoying i couldn't easily switch to TAI-0 timebase with PTP ieee 1588 and remain compatible with an appropriate zoneinfo, and who knows what other changs are required [21:08] MinceR you can have processes see whatever time you'd like [21:08] MinceR NTP can operate on an offset time and you can work back from that [21:08] activelow NTP distributes smeared/leaped time, not monotonic [21:10] MinceR if it's leaped and you know the leap seconds issued so far, you can calculate TAI from that [21:10] MinceR if you use smeared NTP, you get to keep the pieces [21:11] activelow but, NTP can smear and leap anytime, it doesn't replace a monotonic constant tick clock source [21:11] activelow besides kernel too should keep a monotonic clock, which doesn't smear/leap [21:19] activelow https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Unix_time#TAI-based_variant [21:19] -TechPolBot/#techpol-en.wikipedia.org | Unix time - Wikipedia [21:20] activelow "Another, much rarer, non-conforming variant of Unix time keeping involves encoding TAI rather than UTC; some Linux systems are configured this way.[10] Because TAI has no leap seconds, and every TAI day is exactly 86400 seconds long, this encoding is actually a pure linear count of seconds elapsed since 1970-01-01T00:00:00 TAI. This makes time interval arithmetic much easier. Time values from these [21:20] activelow systems do not suffer the ambiguity that strictly conforming POSIX systems or NTP-driven systems have." [21:22] gustaf yeah, POSIX sucks [21:23] gustaf activelow: NTP will only leap/smear around leap seconds, that are announced in advance [21:24] gustaf and smearing is only a hack to avoid systems that can't deal with a :60 second [21:24] activelow gustaf: NTP/UTC leap seconds are considered "irregular and unpredictable", besides leap-seconds and smearing are extremely undesireable [21:25] activelow meaning, smearing/leap defined as the system time-base (instead of TAI-0) [21:25] MinceR the rotation of the earth is irregular and unpredictable as well [21:25] gustaf that's the entire point [21:26] gustaf of the IERS [21:26] activelow TAI-0 is not based on rotation of the earth, it is an atomic monotonic clock source, instead NTP/UTC delivered are smeared/leaped [21:26] gustaf dude, I know all of this [21:27] activelow well, i do NOT know yet how i can configure gnu/linux to use TAI-0 timebase and derive UTC as a relative timezone to it to prevent iregularities with the internet time [21:27] gustaf but you're the one who wants to redefine the second to keep time to some arbitrary value - the observied roation of the earth [21:28] activelow no, i said it is impossible to slow down SI/TAI second definition [21:28] activelow but it could have been a better design choice to distribute a non-smeared/leaped internet time with NTP [21:29] gustaf the SI second was adopted in 1965 [21:29] activelow which doesn't tick ahead of solar-time (UTC) [21:29] gustaf it's impossible to talk to you about this [21:29] gustaf you keep mixing up definitions [21:29] activelow but, this cannot be fixed anymore, nonetheless system clock base can be set to TAI-0 which i am not sure how to do this correctly [21:29] gustaf yeah, I'd be intereted in that too [21:32] activelow i have an idea [21:33] activelow 1) do NOT sync against internet time with NTP anymore [21:33] activelow NTP could or should remain in use, inside LAN, but no syncing against "internet time" with ntp anymore [21:34] activelow 2) get a monotonic high precision accurate oscillator, or any other monotonic precise clock source, such as GPS with known offset against TAI-0 [21:35] activelow 3) set system clock to TAI-0 with TAI=UTC+37 (in year 2021 currently) [21:35] gustaf yeah, get a Raspberry Pi w/ a GPS reciever [21:36] activelow 4) provide a correct zoneinfo for /etc/localtime which calculates the correct UTC offset against system clock set to TAI-0 [21:36] gustaf activelow: check out this https://support.ntp.org/bin/view/Support/TimeScales, specifically 'right' vs 'posix' [21:36] -TechPolBot/#techpol-support.ntp.org | TimeScales < Support < NTP [21:36] activelow 5) never(!) sync against "internet time" with NTP [21:38] activelow 6) /etc/zoneinfo requires occasional updates whenever a leap occurs [21:38] activelow which is the dangerous part, which i recommend a system-reboot with to apply this [21:39] MinceR what for? [21:39] activelow MinceR: because the leap is dangerous to log-files and time stamps [21:39] activelow 7) of cause such time-service an be offered with NTP as UTC timesource then, stratum-1 iirc [21:40] gustaf activelow: set your systemclock to right/Europe/Berlin instead of posix/Europe/Berlin [21:40] activelow 8) one problem remains, kernel might still think system clock is set to UTC when instead it is TAI0 [21:40] gustaf assuming there's a right/ subdir in /etc/timezones [21:41] activelow gustaf: already verified if right or posiz zoneinfo differ, see test script above, and it didn't report any delta although it must have to my understanding [21:41] activelow posix [21:41] gustaf yeah well I just used timedatectl to confirm it but that's anathema to you [21:42] activelow i did check the gentoo scripts and these do not differ either, they simply dump right/UTC or posix/UTC into /etc/localtime, and if system clock was not altered then a different localtime must have been reported, but it was NOT [21:43] gustaf yeah, localtime is based off UTC [21:43] activelow and UTC is based on... TAI-0 [21:44] MinceR i don't see how it would be dangerous [21:44] MinceR if your programs die if they see a seconds value of 60 or 61, they need to be fixed [21:45] gustaf here's what I got when I set my system time to right/Europe/Stockholm, and ran date ; date -u [21:45] gustaf https://paste.debian.net/1212766/ [21:45] -TechPolBot/#techpol-paste.debian.net | debian Pastezone [21:45] gustaf UTC is 27 ahead of my local time, which is TAI + timezone/DST [21:46] *psydroid3 has quit (connection closed) [21:46] activelow zoneinfo/UTC and zoneinfo-leaps/UTC do differ here, not sure why date didn't differ when i set these into /etc/localtime [21:47] activelow i want the system timebase being TAI-0, not UTC [21:49] gustaf so set it to right/Zulu [21:52] activelow you don't know at least which time you had set [21:52] activelow to verify you would need two computers synced against internet time with NTP first [21:53] activelow then disable ntp and any othe time-sync with both [21:53] activelow then on the test machine set TIME=TIME+37 -> system clock time base is TAI-0 then, regardless of wether kernel appreciates this or not [21:53] activelow and then you may change timezones however you please and verify if the offsets match, which they probably do not [21:55] activelow leave alone what the correct time is with a margin of error of +-37s [21:55] activelow which sums up to an error of 1minute 14 seconds in total ● Sep 21 [22:09] gustaf ``Leap Second Smearing MUST NOT be used for public servers, e.g. servers provided by metrology institutes, or servers participating in the NTP pool project.'' [22:09] gustaf ``Instead, leap second smearing should only be configured on time servers providing dedicated clients with time, if all those clients can accept smeared time.'' [22:09] gustaf you will never get a smeared NTP time from a public source [22:09] gustaf https://docs.ntpsec.org/latest/leapsmear.html [22:09] -TechPolBot/#techpol-docs.ntpsec.org | Leap Second Smearing with NTP [22:12] activelow so, what time is it NTP is distributing? TAI-0 TAI-37 ? [22:13] gustaf UTC [22:13] activelow if it isn't TAI-0 then it is smeared/leaped time [22:13] gustaf no, UTC is defined as TAI + leap seconds [22:13] gustaf https://github.com/eggert/tz/blob/main/leap-seconds.list [22:13] -TechPolBot/#techpol-github.com | tz/leap-seconds.list at main eggert/tz GitHub [22:14] activelow got this in usr/share/zoneinfo already [22:14] gustaf yeah that's the source [22:14] activelow problem is, what is the timebase delivered? UTC it is, which is leaped/smeared. [22:15] gustaf (mirrored, Eggers doesn't like GH) [22:15] schestowitz-TR we need a site that mirrors GH [22:15] gustaf UTC is precisely defined by TAI + leap seconds since Jan 1 1972 [22:15] schestowitz-TR so we can download stuff without Microsoft/NSA servers [22:15] gustaf via regular bulletins from the IERS [22:16] psydruid how big is all of GH? [22:17] psydruid can everything be taken out and then mirrored in multiple locations across the world so as to bleed GH dry? [22:18] gustaf activelow: like it or not, UTC is legal/civil time all over the world [22:19] activelow gustaf: ok, sure. i am having another problem, which is gnu/linux preventing me from setting PTP ieee 1588 timebase, and remain interoperable with internet time [22:21] gustaf can't help you with that [22:21] gustaf I believe PTP requires hardware support [22:21] gustaf i.e. a dedicated board [22:22] gustaf Facebook made one with an on-board atomic clock [22:22] activelow yes, althoug i am not that interested in precision in the microseconds range or lower, i want the ieee 1588 timebase supported by linux kernel and userspace/zoneinfo [22:23] activelow regardless of timesource this is what is required first, TAI-0 timebase support, and verification this doesn't break anything [22:23] gustaf ok [22:26] MinceR 21 230935 < gustaf> you will never get a smeared NTP time from a public source [22:26] MinceR systemd-timesyncd gets it from google [22:26] MinceR by default [22:26] gustaf Google smears internally [22:27] MinceR because LP is an idiot [22:27] gustaf doesn't mean they offer a smeared time publically [22:27] gustaf ok next time there's a leap second I'll check the refid value from ntp to check if it's smeared [22:27] psydruid Larry Potter [22:28] activelow openbsd openntpd didn't report synced status on gnu/linux although connected to stratum-1 server in braunschweig (which operates one such caesium atomic clocks in germany) [22:28] gustaf oh, ok it does [22:28] gustaf https://developers.google.com/time#:~:text=Google%20Public%20NTP%20serves%20leap,seconds%20with%20no%20disruptive%20events. [22:28] -TechPolBot/#techpol-developers.google.com | Public NTP | Google Developers [22:28] gustaf that's fine if the client accepts it [22:30] gustaf also my ubuntu box uses Ubuntu's NTPd [22:31] gustaf the instructions for Google's NTP requires clients to remove all other servers, specifically to avoid mixing smearing and non-smearing NTPd's https://developers.google.com/time/guides [22:31] -TechPolBot/#techpol-developers.google.com | Configuring Clients | Public NTP | Google Developers [22:41] activelow i will keep SNTPd for sake of simplicity, only trick with this: sntpd service doesn't sync local system time itself, it only serves; and ntpclient does set system time from a NTP time source [22:41] activelow then, i suspect both kernel and sntpd components require some patching to support TAI-0 timebase, and then a custom zoninfo file is required; not sure yet [22:42] activelow kernel and userspace must know system-time is TAI, and then UTC is a derived time from this; ideally then ntpclient could be used to set system time which remains TAI [22:44] activelow date reports TAI; date -u reports TAI-37s; in theory; and sntpd served on such a TAI system would serve UTC=TAI-37 correctly too; not sure wherever else unix/posix/utc-timestamps would show discrepancies of +-37seconds [22:45] gustaf date -u shows UTC, by definition [22:46] activelow and it too should when system timebase is TAI and /etc/localtime is UTC [22:46] *DaemonFC (~DaemonFC@e4z63rvppmwhu.irc) has joined #techpol [22:46] activelow my testscript has shown already something might not be in order with gnu/linux, or i made a mistake too [22:47] activelow and openbsd openntpd refused to report "synced" status on gnu/linux, not sure yet why that is [22:47] activelow of cause i kept /etc/localtime at UTC and regular zoneinfo with the openntpd test case [22:47] psydruid maybe they haven't tested it on GNU/Linux or it needs some porting work? [22:48] activelow some issue with solaris was known too, tried several times and couldn't conclude or fix the issue yet [22:48] gustaf https://www.ucolick.org/~sla/leapsecs/right+gps.html [22:48] -TechPolBot/#techpol-www.ucolick.org | "right"+GPS [22:49] activelow as said, i had this on my TODO for more than a year, and have no solution yet to trust the system time delivered by ntp [22:50] gustaf ``There is no way to change POSIX away from setting the system clock value of time_t to the value of the existing broadcast time signals. This way of setting the clock is the scheme which has evolved and been implemented by too many existing systems. (The scheme of using GPS time described in this web page is a hack which will only ever be used by special-purpose systems.)'' [22:50] activelow in comparison to my DVB-T2 receiver my gnu/linux system time in UTC is reported being 7seconds ahead (seven seconds time-delta between DVB-T2 and NTP/UTC !!!!!!!) [22:51] gustaf yeah you need to make your system into a hacked stratum-1 server, using a GPS source [22:51] activelow gps source; plus patches for kernel and userspace i suspect [22:53] activelow ideally, i got completely independent high precision long-term stable oscillator to verify monotonic tick rate of GPS against; because i do not trust GPS either [22:55] gustaf jfc [22:56] gustaf ok sure get that Facebook card [22:57] activelow such a thing can be built homebrew [22:57] gustaf uh huh [22:57] activelow problem is, quartz oscillators are temperature-sensitive and drift too much [22:57] gustaf I mean, it's not as if trading systems etc are absolutely fine using GPS among other things as a time source [22:58] gustaf just get a used cesium clock [22:58] gustaf HP made them [22:58] gustaf http://leapsecond.com/ptti2020/2020-PTTI-tvb-Atomic-Timekeeping-Hobby.pdf ● Sep 21 [23:00] gustaf that site has a ton of great info [23:16] activelow you must not confuse absolute system time of a host, and relative clocks in distributed systems (lamport algorithm) [23:16] gustaf TAI is itself determined using an algorithm incorporating a lot of atomic clocks [23:18] activelow i suspect TAI is verified with multiple atomic clocks, not determined [23:18] activelow i think, TAI is absolute and monotonic with an extremely low margin of error, it isn't a relative clock in a distributed system [23:20] gustaf ``TAI is a weighted average of the time kept by over 400 atomic clocks[4] in over 50 national laboratories worldwide.[5] [...] The clocks are compared using GPS signals and two-way satellite time and frequency transfer.'' [23:22] activelow trying to understand, TAI is different to UTC, TAI is an absolute monotonic timebase, UTC is not [23:22] *DaemonFC has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [23:24] gustaf correct [23:25] gustaf UTC has leap seconds to keep it clost to UT1, which is determined by astronomical observations [23:25] gustaf all 3 of course use the SI second [23:29] activelow and timebase of a gnu/linux could be or should be TAI, not UTC [23:29] gustaf no it should be POSIX [23:29] gustaf well it is [23:30] gustaf TAI should be used instead of POSIX [23:30] gustaf but it's not [23:30] activelow not sure yet, in any case the possibility of TAI timebase and how this interferes with kernel and userspace with POSIX and UTC isn't clarified [23:31] activelow regardless of PTP ieee 1588, which assumes TAI timebase iirc: https://github.com/openil/linuxptp [23:31] -TechPolBot/#techpol-github.com | GitHub - openil/linuxptp: PTP IEEE 1588 stack for Linux [23:32] activelow not sure if kernel requires a patch, and what needs to be changed in SNTPd/ntpclient (which i chose), and usr/share/zoneinfo changes to provide TAI and a correct UTC entry at least [23:33] activelow when done, my system would show a time 37s ahead, and date -u would show utc, syncing with sntpd/ntpclient wouldn't screw up either [23:35] activelow and in case of leaping i would manually adapt share/zoneinfo/UTC, such as naming the entries UTC2016-37, UTC2015-36, UTC2008-35; and reboot the system to prevent unordered logfile timestamps [23:35] activelow only an idea [23:44] *DaemonFC (~DaemonFC@jqw6a9nnkevmk.irc) has joined #techpol