●● IRC: #boycottnovell-social and #techpol @ Techrights IRC Network: Friday, September 23, 2022 ●● ● Sep 23 [00:00] TR News (NEW): CentOS Continues Its Demise, Red Hat Issues Puff Pieces http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/09/22/CentOS_Continues_Its_Demise_Red_Hat_Issues_Puff_Pieces.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/09/22/CentOS_Continues_Its_Demise_Red_Hat_Issues_Puff_Pieces.gmi [00:00] -TechrightsSocial/#boycottnovell-social-news.tuxmachines.org | Tux Machines CentOS Continues Its Demise, Red Hat Issues Puff Pieces [00:08] TR News Links 22/09/2022: ExTiX 22.9, Rust 1.64.0, Weston 11.0.0, New Mesa, and OpenCL 3.0.12 | Techrights http://techrights.org/2022/09/22/extix-22-9/ | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2022/09/22/extix-22-9/ [00:08] -TechrightsSocial/#boycottnovell-social-techrights.org | Links 22/09/2022: ExTiX 22.9, Rust 1.64.0, Weston 11.0.0, New Mesa, and OpenCL 3.0.12 | Techrights [00:12] TR News (NEW): Servers: Containers, Clown Computing, and September 2022 Web Server Survey http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/09/22/Servers_Containers_Clown_Computing_and_September_2022_Web_Serve.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/09/22/Servers_Containers_Clown_Computing_and_September_2022_Web_Serve.gmi [00:12] -TechrightsSocial/#boycottnovell-social-news.tuxmachines.org | Tux Machines Servers: Containers, Clown Computing, and September 2022 Web Server Survey [00:15] TR News (NEW): Today's Leftovers http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/09/22/today_s_leftovers.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/09/22/today_s_leftovers.gmi [00:15] -TechrightsSocial/#boycottnovell-social-news.tuxmachines.org | Tux Machines today's leftovers [00:39] TR News "This tutorial will be helpful for beginners to install firefox 105 on Ubuntu 22.04 LTS, Ubuntu 20.04, and Linux Mint 21." https://tipsonunix.com/2022/09/20/install-firefox-105-on-ubuntu-linux-mint/ [00:39] -TechrightsSocial/#boycottnovell-social-tipsonunix.com | Install Firefox 105 on Ubuntu / Linux Mint - Tips On Unix [00:40] TR News How to Encrypt Sensitive Files Using GnuPG on Linux https://www.makeuseof.com/encrypt-sensitive-files-using-gnupg-linux/ Source: Make Use Of | Gemini address: gemini://gemi.dev/cgi-bin/waffle.cgi/view?https%3A//www.makeuseof.com/encrypt-sensitive-files-using-gnupg-linux/ [00:40] -TechrightsSocial/#boycottnovell-social-www.makeuseof.com | How to Encrypt Sensitive Files Using GnuPG on Linux [00:44] *psymin has quit (Quit: Leaving) [00:47] TR News (NEW): Today's HowTos http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/09/22/today_s_howtos.3.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/09/22/today_s_howtos.3.gmi [00:47] -TechrightsSocial/#boycottnovell-social-news.tuxmachines.org | Tux Machines today's howtos [00:49] TR News "Class::Plain provides a class syntax for the hash-based Perl OO." http://blogs.perl.org/users/yuki_kimoto/2022/09/classplain---a-class-syntax-for-the-hash-based-perl-oo.html [00:49] -TechrightsSocial/#boycottnovell-social-Class::Plain - Class Syntax for Hash-Based Perl OO | Yuki Kimoto Perl Blog - Perl Club [blogs.perl.org] [00:49] TR News Niko Matsakis: Rust 2024the year of everywhere? http://smallcultfollowing.com/babysteps/blog/2022/09/22/rust-2024-the-year-of-everywhere/ [00:49] -TechrightsSocial/#boycottnovell-social-smallcultfollowing.com | Baby Steps ● Sep 23 [01:08] *psydruid (~psydruid@jevhxkzmtrbww.irc) has left #boycottnovell-social [01:10] TR News (NEW): Audacity 3.2 Released with Real-Time and VST3 Effects, FFmpeg 5.0 and WavPack Support http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/09/23/Audacity_3_2_Released_with_Real_Time_and_VST3_Effects_FFmpeg_5_.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/09/23/Audacity_3_2_Released_with_Real_Time_and_VST3_Effects_FFmpeg_5_.gmi [01:10] -TechrightsSocial/#boycottnovell-social-news.tuxmachines.org | Tux Machines Audacity 3.2 Released with Real-Time and VST3 Effects, FFmpeg 5.0 and WavPack Support [01:10] *psydruid (~psydruid@jevhxkzmtrbww.irc) has joined #boycottnovell-social [01:32] *psydruid (~psydruid@jevhxkzmtrbww.irc) has left #boycottnovell-social [01:32] *psydruid (~psydruid@jevhxkzmtrbww.irc) has joined #boycottnovell-social ● Sep 23 [02:02] *DaemonFC has quit (Quit: ChatZilla 0.13 [SeaMonkey 2.53.13/20220708150114]) [02:03] *DaemonFC (~daemonfc@mztzs6dkpajw6.irc) has joined #boycottnovell-social [02:34] TR News Yesterday's #boycottnovell IRC logs ready. 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"LINUX" https://linuxtechlab.com/free-vpns-for-linux-everything-you-need-to-know/ [06:02] -TechrightsSocial/#boycottnovell-social-Free VPNs for Linux: Everything You Need to Know - LinuxTechLab [06:05] TR News 3 free Linux security training courses you can take right now https://www.helpnetsecurity.com/2022/09/21/3-free-linux-security-training-courses/ [06:05] -TechrightsSocial/#boycottnovell-social-www.helpnetsecurity.com | 3 free Linux security training courses you can take right now - Help Net Security [06:07] TR News Open AI Whisper - Open Source Translation and Transcription - Invidious https://yewtu.be/watch?v=Ph6K_0ttsSc | Gemini address: gemini://auragem.space/youtube/video/Ph6K_0ttsSc [06:07] -TechrightsSocial/#boycottnovell-social-yewtu.be | Open AI Whisper - Open Source Translation and Transcription - Invidious [06:12] TR News CSS is doing too much already; no wonder nobody can make a rendering engine anymore... https://linuxhint.com/simulate-onclick-event-css/ [06:12] -TechrightsSocial/#boycottnovell-social-linuxhint.com | How to Simulate the Onclick Event in CSS [06:16] TR News Pubs in town already accepting xmas bookings. And advertise this. It's only SEPTEMBER. I think they're desperate for income. It's tough. [06:21] TR News Enterprise Encryption for Linux https://linuxsecurity.com/news/organizations-events/enterprise-encryption-for-linux [06:21] -TechrightsSocial/#boycottnovell-social-Enterprise Encryption for Linux | LinuxSecurity.com [06:22] TR News Will JPEG-XL be the JPEG replacement we've been waiting 30 years for? | BaronHKs Rants https://baronhk.wordpress.com/2022/09/23/will-jpeg-xl-be-the-jpeg-replacement-weve-been-waiting-30-years-for/ Source: DaemonFC (Ryan Farmer) [06:22] -TechrightsSocial/#boycottnovell-social-baronhk.wordpress.com | Will JPEG-XL be the JPEG replacement weve been waiting 30 years for? | BaronHK's Rants [06:23] TR News "Rust is so much worse and theres a cult forming around it." https://baronhk.wordpress.com/2022/09/23/web-engines-that-are-still-free-of-rust-as-of-september-2022-bonus-cascade-of-attention-deficit-web-developers/ [06:23] -TechrightsSocial/#boycottnovell-social-baronhk.wordpress.com | Web engines that are still free of Rust as of September 2022. Bonus: Cascade of Attention Deficit Web Developers | BaronHK's Rants [06:24] TR News "In Kubernetes 1.25, Validation rules for CustomResourceDefinitions (CRDs) have graduated to Beta!" https://kubernetes.io/blog/2022/09/23/crd-validation-rules-beta/ [06:24] -TechrightsSocial/#boycottnovell-social-kubernetes.io | Kubernetes 1.25: CustomResourceDefinition Validation Rules Graduate to Beta | Kubernetes [06:26] TR News "If Trump had appointed an Inspector General to oversee the program as the law required, perhaps this (and other similar incidents?) may not have happened." https://baronhk.wordpress.com/2022/09/23/more-than-two-dozen-criminals-in-illinois-got-fake-paycheck-protection-program-loans-from-the-trump-administration-and-used-them-to-post-bail-and-flee/ [06:26] -TechrightsSocial/#boycottnovell-social-baronhk.wordpress.com | More than two dozen criminals in Illinois got fake Paycheck Protection Program loans from the Trump administration and used them to post bail and flee. | BaronHK's Rants [06:26] TR News "GNOME 43 highlights, Canonical's new hardware partner, and why we're disappointed in the Framework Chromebook." https://www.jupiterbroadcasting.com/show/linux-action-news/259/ [06:26] -TechrightsSocial/#boycottnovell-social-www.jupiterbroadcasting.com | Linux Action News 259 | Jupiter Broadcasting [06:27] TR News Entertaining webcranks https://linuxhint.com/web-3/ see http://techrights.org/2022/01/29/web3-is-bullshit/ [06:27] -TechrightsSocial/#boycottnovell-social-linuxhint.com | What is Web 3.0? [06:27] -TechrightsSocial/#boycottnovell-social-techrights.org | Aral Balkan: Web3 is Bullshit | Techrights [06:29] TR News Maria Naz at linuxhint did a 4-part article on using Git.. BUT ASSUMES YOU USE WINDOWS... in a site called LINUX HINT. Facepalm. [06:31] TR News [cat] gemini://nytpu.com/cheetahs/D708.jpg [06:32] TR News "I previously wondered how much Forth was like Whitespace assembler....so I got a Forth interpreter and had a go. I didn't get much beyond beginner level, so take all I say with a pinch of salt." gemini://freeshell.de/gemlog/2022-09-23___Having_looked_into_Forth__a_bit_.gmi [06:33] TR News My Thoughts On The CDG, And How You Can Help Fight The Discoverability Crisis gemini://tilde.team/~smokey/logs/2022-09-22-cdg.gmi [06:34] TR News "One problem I have always found, as have many others who try out gemini, is difficulty in finding interesting content. There are many contributing factors to why, but lets just say the problem is an ongoing issue that has no real easy solutions." gemini://tilde.team/~smokey/logs/2022-09-22-cdg.gmi [06:34] TR News "There's an idea being floated about building a decentralized, personalized feed aggregator as opposed to something like Antenna which is open for all to submit to." gemini://moddedbear.xyz/logs/2022-09-22-feed-aggregators-and-idea-silos.gmi [06:35] TR News "Additionally, I would caution against building any community where a core goal is to only gather with people who share identical political ideologies. I'm not saying it can't or shouldn't ever be done, but I generally see such communities as unproductive at best and a breeding ground for extremism at worst." gemini://moddedbear.xyz/logs/2022-09-22-feed-aggregators-and-idea-silos.gmi [06:35] TR News "I find it utterly bemusing the lack of self-awareness in lefties. I read an article a couple times, on right wing politics on Gemini, and the second time I mentally flipped a few words within to point in the other direction, and it fit perfectly." gemini://ainent.xyz/gemlog/2022-09-22-re-right-wing-politics-on-gemini.gmi [06:36] TR News "Spare time flows through me, right now. Im letting myself enjoy doing /less/ but not /nothing/. I live in hope that these quiet times will restore my soul, such that I can re-enter the World of Work in a manner that suits me - I still have something to give." gemini://apintandaparma.club/~ajc/log/2022-09-23.gmi [06:38] TR News A few hours ago this was released by Netcraft; it seems clear that Netcrafts tables already omit Microsoft in all except 2, where Microsoft is placed last and rapidly loses share (it'll fall out of sight soon) http://techrights.org/2022/09/22/netcraft-microsoft/ [06:38] -TechrightsSocial/#boycottnovell-social-techrights.org | Microsoft Will Soon be Unlisted in Netcrafts Web Survey (Due to Minuscule, Negligible Market Share) | Techrights [06:41] TR News Firefox 105 on POWER https://www.talospace.com/2022/09/firefox-105-on-power.html Source: Talospace | Gemini address: gemini://gemi.dev/cgi-bin/waffle.cgi/view?https%3A//www.talospace.com/2022/09/firefox-105-on-power.html [06:41] -TechrightsSocial/#boycottnovell-social-www.talospace.com | Firefox 105 on POWER [06:49] TR News Miniature dual camera Full HD or 4K encoder boards support RGB and thermal cameras - CNX Software https://www.cnx-software.com/2022/09/23/miniature-dual-camera-full-hd-or-4k-encoder-boards-support-rgb-and-thermal-cameras/ Source: CNX Software [06:49] -TechrightsSocial/#boycottnovell-social-www.cnx-software.com | Miniature dual camera Full HD or 4K encoder boards support RGB and thermal cameras - CNX Software [06:49] TR News (NEW): Today's HowTos http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/09/23/today_s_howtos.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/09/23/today_s_howtos.gmi [06:49] -TechrightsSocial/#boycottnovell-social-news.tuxmachines.org | Tux Machines today's howtos [06:49] TR News (NEW): 11 Gorgeous KDE Plasma Themes to Make Your Linux Desktop Even More Beautiful http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/09/23/11_Gorgeous_KDE_Plasma_Themes_to_Make_Your_Linux_Desktop_Even_M.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/09/23/11_Gorgeous_KDE_Plasma_Themes_to_Make_Your_Linux_Desktop_Even_M.gmi [06:49] -TechrightsSocial/#boycottnovell-social-news.tuxmachines.org | Tux Machines 11 Gorgeous KDE Plasma Themes to Make Your Linux Desktop Even More Beautiful [06:49] TR News (NEW): 5 Free and Open-Source Figma Alternatives http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/09/23/5_Free_and_Open_Source_Figma_Alternatives.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/09/23/5_Free_and_Open_Source_Figma_Alternatives.gmi [06:49] -TechrightsSocial/#boycottnovell-social-news.tuxmachines.org | Tux Machines 5 Free and Open-Source Figma Alternatives [06:50] *acer-box__ (~acer-box@freenode/user/schestowitz) has joined #boycottnovell-social [06:51] *acer-box has quit (Ping timeout: 120 seconds) [06:51] TR News [Old] "Does this mean installing Linux on an NVIDIA-powered machine will be less of a pain? Well, not yet. But eventually, hopefully, that answer will become yes." https://www.makeuseof.com/nvidia-open-sources-gpu-driver-for-linux/ | Source: Make Use Of [06:51] -TechrightsSocial/#boycottnovell-social-www.makeuseof.com | What NVIDIAs Open-Source Driver Means for Linux [06:52] TR News "Since this is long and observational, I'll put the summary up front." https://utcc.utoronto.ca/~cks/space/blog/tech/USBTemper2ReadingsNotes | Source: uni Toronto [06:52] -TechrightsSocial/#boycottnovell-social-utcc.utoronto.ca | Chris's Wiki :: blog/tech/USBTemper2ReadingsNotes [06:52] TR News "Over the years Ive had a number of people reach out asking how I created the notice boxes on this website." https://kevquirk.com/how-to-create-a-simple-html-css-notice-box/ | Source: Kev Quirk [06:52] -TechrightsSocial/#boycottnovell-social-kevquirk.com | How to Create a Simple HTML/CSS Notice Box - Kev Quirk [06:52] TR News "Jaromir Talir held a presentation about offline KSK with Knot DNS, and from the terminology he used in 2019 I made this diagram a few years ago to help me better understand the flow of keys." https://jpmens.net/2022/09/22/dnssec-signing-with-an-offline-ksk/ | Source: Jan Piet Mens [06:52] -TechrightsSocial/#boycottnovell-social-jpmens.net | Jan-Piet Mens :: DNSSEC signing with an offline KSK [06:52] TR News "As I'm moving to Linux more and more, I took the opportunity to explore the BTRFS file system which was mostly unknown to me" https://dataswamp.org/~solene/2022-09-21-btrfs-compression.html | Source: Data Swamp [06:52] -TechrightsSocial/#boycottnovell-social-dataswamp.org | Solene'% : Sharing some statistics about BTRFS compression [06:53] TR News [Old] "Guix is pure. It's refreshing to know that I can take any package and reuse its source code for my own purposes without having to worry about commercial restrictions or redistribution." https://gexp.no/blog/it-wasnt-for-nothing.html | Source: Marius Bakke [06:53] -TechrightsSocial/#boycottnovell-social-gexp.no | It wasn't for nothing - Grasping gexps [06:54] TR News "DOSBox Staging is a fork of the original DOSBox aimed at getting new features in faster, along with a better overall experience for users." https://www.gamingonlinux.com/2022/09/dosbox-staging-0790-is-out-now/ | Source: GamingOnLinux [06:54] -TechrightsSocial/#boycottnovell-social-DOSBox Staging 0.79.0 is out now | GamingOnLinux [06:54] TR News "Two rather great sandbox mining games are set for an official cross-over. Terraria and the new kid on the block Core Keeper will both be getting free updates for it." https://www.gamingonlinux.com/2022/09/core-keeper-and-terraria-are-getting-cross-over-updates/ | Source: GamingOnLinux [06:54] -TechrightsSocial/#boycottnovell-social-Core Keeper and Terraria are getting cross-over updates | GamingOnLinux [06:57] TR News "Devil Daggers was a great time-survival FPS and now the creator is back with HYPER DEMON, which will blow your tiny little mind." https://www.gamingonlinux.com/2022/09/hyper-demon-is-a-vision-bending-fps-from-the-creator-of-devil-daggers/ | Source: GamingOnLinux [06:57] -TechrightsSocial/#boycottnovell-social-HYPER DEMON is a vision-bending FPS from the creator of Devil Daggers | GamingOnLinux [06:57] TR News "Humble Bundle are making sure you can get serious this week with The Serious Sam Bundle containing plenty of action ready for you to dive in." https://www.gamingonlinux.com/2022/09/get-a-whole-lot-of-serious-sam-in-this-game-bundle/ | Source: GamingOnLinux [06:57] -TechrightsSocial/#boycottnovell-social-Get a whole lot of Serious Sam in this game bundle | GamingOnLinux ● Sep 23 [07:01] TR News "The Plague Doctor of Wippra will see you attempt to help people but ignorance, superstition, and religious zeal will firmly get in your way." https://www.gamingonlinux.com/2022/09/short-point-and-click-adventure-the-plague-doctor-of-wippra-is-out-on-october-5th/ | Source: GamingOnLinux [07:01] -TechrightsSocial/#boycottnovell-social-Short point and click adventure The Plague Doctor of Wippra is out on October 5th | GamingOnLinux [07:01] TR News "Stardeus from developer Kodo Linija (Bloody Rally Show) has found a publisher with Paradox Arc (Paradox Interactive's new publishing arm)." https://www.gamingonlinux.com/2022/09/paradox-arc-to-publish-sci-fi-base-builder-stardeus-entering-early-access-in-october/ | Source: GamingOnLinux [07:01] -TechrightsSocial/#boycottnovell-social-Paradox Arc to publish sci-fi base builder Stardeus, entering Early Access in October | GamingOnLinux [07:03] TR News "GNOME 43 is officially out now, bringing with it some pretty wonderful sounding changes to one of the most popular Linux desktop environments." https://www.gamingonlinux.com/2022/09/gnome-43-is-out-now-with-quick-settings-refreshed-files-app-and-lots-more/ | Source: GamingOnLinux [07:03] -TechrightsSocial/#boycottnovell-social-GNOME 43 is out now with Quick Settings, refreshed Files app and lots more | GamingOnLinux [07:04] TR News "When coreboot makes a new release, I rebase our Librem-specific patches onto it, then run a set of tests on each device" https://puri.sm/posts/how-we-fixed-reboot-loops-on-the-librem-mini/ | Source: Purism [07:04] -TechrightsSocial/#boycottnovell-social-puri.sm | How We Fixed Reboot Loops on the Librem Mini Purism [07:06] TR News ">When you start a Linux system, it starts with only one process, a program called init." https://linuxhandbook.com/check-if-systemd/ | Source: Linux Handbook [07:06] -TechrightsSocial/#boycottnovell-social-linuxhandbook.com | Check if You Are Using Systemd or Not in Linux [07:15] TR News "Validation rules support a wide range of use cases." https://kubernetes.io/blog/2022/09/23/crd-validation-rules-beta/ [07:15] -TechrightsSocial/#boycottnovell-social-kubernetes.io | Kubernetes 1.25: CustomResourceDefinition Validation Rules Graduate to Beta | Kubernetes [07:17] TR News "While 76% of the overall users operate Windows"... no, even less that that ONLY IF YOU COUNT DESKTOP ALONE. https://www.unixmen.com/linux-vs-windows-10-key-differences-that-one-should-know/ | Source: Unix Men [07:17] -TechrightsSocial/#boycottnovell-social- ( status 403 @ https://www.unixmen.com/linux-vs-windows-10-key-differences-that-one-should-know/ ) [07:23] TR News "The e-RouteCAM_CU20 is a 2MP PoE (Power-over-Ethernet) GigE camera developed by e-con Systems." https://linuxgizmos.com/sony-starvis-based-gige-camera-supports-poe/ | Source: Linux Gizmos [07:23] -TechrightsSocial/#boycottnovell-social- ( status 520 @ https://linuxgizmos.com/sony-starvis-based-gige-camera-supports-poe/ ) [07:23] TR News (NEW): Games: DOSBox, Terraria, Serious Sam, and More http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/09/23/Games_DOSBox_Terraria_Serious_Sam_and_More.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/09/23/Games_DOSBox_Terraria_Serious_Sam_and_More.gmi [07:23] -TechrightsSocial/#boycottnovell-social-news.tuxmachines.org | Tux Machines Games: DOSBox, Terraria, Serious Sam, and More [07:27] TR News Will FSF give an award NOT to people who attack it? Let's see... https://www.fsf.org/blogs/community/free-software-awards-nominate-those-who-have-charted-a-course-to-freedom-by-november-30 [07:27] -TechrightsSocial/#boycottnovell-social-www.fsf.org | Free Software Awards: Nominate those who have charted a course to freedom by November 30 Free Software Foundation Working together for free software [07:27] TR News FBI https://www.cbc.ca/news/world/special-master-dearie-trump-fbi-search-1.6589467 [07:27] -TechrightsSocial/#boycottnovell-social-www.cbc.ca | Review of seized Mar-a-Lago documents should go quickly, arbiter says | CBC News [07:27] TR News Fake it till you defraud it https://www.lemonde.fr/en/international/article/2022/09/22/new-york-attorney-general-sues-trump-family-for-wildly-overstating-their-assets_5997862_4.html [07:27] -TechrightsSocial/#boycottnovell-social-www.lemonde.fr | New York attorney general sues Trump family for overstating their assets [07:28] TR News A genocide https://www.france24.com/en/access-asia/20220922-last-surviving-khmer-rouge-leader-loses-genocide-appeal https://www.dw.com/en/cambodia-court-upholds-conviction-of-khmer-rouge-leader-khieu-samphan/a-63200020 [07:28] -TechrightsSocial/#boycottnovell-social-www.france24.com | Last surviving Khmer Rouge leader loses genocide appeal [07:28] -TechrightsSocial/#boycottnovell-social-Cambodia: Court upholds conviction of Khmer Rouge leader Khieu Samphan | News | DW | 22.09.2022 [07:28] TR News KSA https://www.dw.com/en/energy-woes-trump-human-rights-as-scholz-visits-saudi-arabia/a-63189419 [07:28] -TechrightsSocial/#boycottnovell-social-Energy woes trump human rights as Scholz visits Saudi Arabia | Business | Economy and finance news from a German perspective | DW | 22.09.2022 [07:28] TR News Old: award to the person whom Microsoft is besieging (and he cannot speak about it) http://www.h-online.com/open/news/item/Linus-Torvalds-now-a-Millenium-Technology-Prize-laureate-1543357.html [07:28] -TechrightsSocial/#boycottnovell-social-www.h-online.com | Linus Torvalds now a Millenium Technology Prize laureate - The H Open: News and Features [07:29] TR News "This guide explains what is Ansible register and how to capture a task output in Ansible using the register variables in Linux" https://ostechnix.com/ansible-register/ | Source: OSTechNix [07:29] -TechrightsSocial/#boycottnovell-social-Ansible Register Variable - OSTechNix [07:29] TR News Marsha Hunt, dies aged 104 in California - ABC News https://www.abc.net.au/news/2022-09-11/hollywood-actress-marsha-hunt-dies-at-104-in-california-home/101427548 Source: Science ABC | Gemini address: gemini://gemi.dev/cgi-bin/waffle.cgi/view?https%3A//www.abc.net.au/news/2022-09-11/hollywood-actress-marsha-hunt-dies-at-104-in-california-home/101427548 [07:29] -TechrightsSocial/#boycottnovell-social-www.abc.net.au | Actress from Hollywood's 'Golden Age' turned activist, Marsha Hunt, dies aged 104 in California - ABC News [07:30] TR News The heartbreak and cost of losing a baby in America https://text.npr.org/1121612539 Source:BillPR | Gemini address: gemini://gemi.dev/cgi-bin/waffle.cgi/view?https%3A//text.npr.org/1121612539 [07:30] -TechrightsSocial/#boycottnovell-social-text.npr.org | The heartbreak and cost of losing a baby in America [07:30] TR News Bangladesh police: Suspected Rohingya rebels [sic] kill another refugee camp watchman Radio Free Asia https://www.rfa.org/english/news/myanmar/bandladesh-rohingya-09212022142259.html Source: Verfassungsblog | Gemini address: gemini://gemi.dev/cgi-bin/waffle.cgi/view?https%3A//www.rfa.org/english/news/myanmar/bandladesh-rohingya-09212022142259.html [07:30] -TechrightsSocial/#boycottnovell-social-www.rfa.org | Bangladesh police: Suspected Rohingya rebels kill another refugee camp watchman Radio Free Asia [07:30] TR News ukraine https://www.rferl.org/a/ukraine-prisoners-released-drueke-huynh/32045093.html [07:30] -TechrightsSocial/#boycottnovell-social-www.rferl.org | Ten Prisoners Captured In Ukraine Released To Saudi Arabia, Riyadh Says [07:31] TR News st. petersburg https://www.tampabay.com/life-culture/history/2022/09/20/77-years-later-remains-ww2-pilot-st-petersburg-are-identified/ [07:31] -TechrightsSocial/#boycottnovell-social-www.tampabay.com | 77 years later, remains of WW2 pilot from St. Petersburg are identified [07:31] TR News "In some Moscow police stations, those detained during the anti-mobilization protests on September 21 were given summonses to appear at military registration and enlistment offices" https://meduza.io/en/news/2022/09/22/detained-protesters-in-moscow-given-military-registration-summonses | Source: Meduza [07:31] -TechrightsSocial/#boycottnovell-social-meduza.io | NO TITLE [07:31] TR News How to tarnish the "Linux" brand https://www.zdnet.com/article/linus-torvalds-talks-rust-on-linux-his-work-schedule-and-life-with-his-m2-macbook-air/ [07:32] -TechrightsSocial/#boycottnovell-social-Linus Torvalds talks Rust on Linux, his work schedule and life with his M2 MacBook Air | ZDNET [07:32] TR News Trump docs probe: Appeals court lifts hold on Mar-a-Lago records https://www.tampabay.com/news/florida-politics/2022/09/21/trump-docs-probe-appeals-court-lifts-hold-mar-a-lago-records/ Source: Tampa Bay Times | Gemini address: gemini://gemi.dev/cgi-bin/waffle.cgi/view?https%3A//www.tampabay.com/news/florida-politics/2022/09/21/trump-docs-probe-appeals-court-lifts-hold-mar-a-lago-records/ [07:32] -TechrightsSocial/#boycottnovell-social-www.tampabay.com | Trump docs probe: Appeals court lifts hold on Mar-a-Lago records [07:32] TR News COVID-19: better never to get infected at all https://adf-magazine.com/2022/09/mental-health-issues-may-linger-for-years-after-covid-19-infection/ [07:32] -TechrightsSocial/#boycottnovell-social-adf-magazine.com | Mental Health Issues May Linger For Years After COVID-19 Infection - Africa Defense Forum [07:33] TR News old: People - Michigan Terminal System Archive http://archive.michigan-terminal-system.org/people Source: The Somnolescent Archives | Gemini address: gemini://gemi.dev/cgi-bin/waffle.cgi/view?http%3A//archive.michigan-terminal-system.org/people [07:33] -TechrightsSocial/#boycottnovell-social-archive.michigan-terminal-system.org | People - Michigan Terminal System Archive [07:38] TR News old: Torvalds uses free speech... to condemn truly evil company ... when he was still ALLOWED http://www.h-online.com/open/news/item/NVIDIA-responds-to-criticism-by-Torvalds-1621598.html [07:38] -TechrightsSocial/#boycottnovell-social-www.h-online.com | NVIDIA responds to criticism by Torvalds - The H Open: News and Features [07:38] TR News Judge Aileen Cannons Latest Mar-a-Lago Ruling Got Benchslapped by 11th Circuit Court

Read on [07:38] -TechrightsSocial/#boycottnovell-social-www.thedailybeast.com | Judge Aileen Cannons Latest Mar-a-Lago Ruling Got Benchslapped by 11th Circuit Court [07:40] TR News Judge Aileen Cannons Latest Mar-a-Lago Ruling Got Benchslapped by 11th Circuit Court https://www.thedailybeast.com/judge-aileen-cannons-latest-mar-a-lago-ruling-got-benchslapped-by-11th-circuit-court Source: The Daily Beast | Gemini address: gemini://gemi.dev/cgi-bin/waffle.cgi/view?https%3A//www.thedailybeast.com/judge-aileen-cannons-latest-mar-a-lago-ruling-got-benchslapped-by-11th-circuit-court [07:43] TR News finland https://news.err.ee/1608724405/fire-in-the-residential-quarters-of-tanker-in-gulf-of-finland [07:43] -TechrightsSocial/#boycottnovell-social-news.err.ee | Fire in the residential quarters of tanker in Gulf of Finland | News | ERR [07:43] TR News insecure https://www.salon.com/2022/09/22/maga-and-the-incels-latest-jan-6-arrests-show-how-fascists-target-insecure-young-men/ [07:43] -TechrightsSocial/#boycottnovell-social-MAGA and the "incels": Latest Jan. 6 arrests show how fascists target insecure young men | Salon.com [07:43] TR News 'Masked Singer' Exit Interview: The Knight on His Murderous Costume - Billboard https://www.billboard.com/culture/tv-film/knight-eliminated-masked-singer-season-8-premiere-identity-1235142370/ Source: Penske Media Corporation | Gemini address: gemini://gemi.dev/cgi-bin/waffle.cgi/view?https%3A//www.billboard.com/culture/tv-film/knight-eliminated-masked-singer-season-8-premiere-identity-1235142370/ [07:43] -TechrightsSocial/#boycottnovell-social-Masked Singer Exit Interview: The Knight on His Murderous Costume Billboard [07:44] TR News Iran leader shuns Christiane Amanpour interview over refusal to wear headscarf | Ebrahim Raisi | The Guardian https://www.theguardian.com/world/2022/sep/22/christiane-amanpour-ebrahim-riasi-headscarf-interview-iran Source: The Guardian UK | Gemini address: gemini://gemi.dev/cgi-bin/waffle.cgi/view?https%3A//www.theguardian.com/world/2022/sep/22/christiane-amanpour-ebrahim-riasi-headscarf-interview-iran [07:44] -TechrightsSocial/#boycottnovell-social-www.theguardian.com | Iran leader shuns Christiane Amanpour interview over refusal to wear headscarf | Ebrahim Raisi | The Guardian [07:44] schestowitz "The Rule of Law is not assured:" The Cascading Constitutional Crisis Judge Aileen Cannon Deliberately Created - emptywheel https://www.emptywheel.net/2022/09/19/the-rule-of-law-is-not-assured-the-cascading-constitutional-crisis-judge-aileen-cannon-deliberately-created/ Source: Marcy Wheeler | Gemini address: gemini://gemi.dev/cgi-bin/waffle.cgi/view?https%3A//www.emptywheel.net/2022/09/19/the-rule-of-law-is-not-assured-the- [07:44] -TechrightsSocial/#boycottnovell-social-www.emptywheel.net | "The Rule of Law is not assured:" The Cascading Constitutional Crisis Judge Aileen Cannon Deliberately Created - emptywheel [07:44] schestowitz cascading-constitutional-crisis-judge-aileen-cannon-deliberately-created/ [07:45] TR News Finland also https://translate.google.com/translate?sl=ru&tl=en&u=https://ospi.fi/blog/khochu-zhit.html [07:45] -TechrightsSocial/#boycottnovell-social-ospi-fi.translate.goog | Khochu Zhit - oBlog ● Sep 23 [08:04] TR News "According to Samara-based Nesluhi.info, the door and porch of a city administration building were set on fire in Tolyatti." https://meduza.io/en/news/2022/09/22/molotov-cocktail-thrown-into-administrative-building-in-tolyatti-while-recruitment-center-catches-fire-in-nizhny-novgorod | Source: Meduza [08:04] -TechrightsSocial/#boycottnovell-social-meduza.io | NO TITLE [08:08] TR News "The OpenBSD virtual machine daemon works pretty well with Linux VMs nowadays." https://www.tumfatig.net/2022/running-docker-host-openbsd-vmd/ | Source: TuMFatig [08:08] -TechrightsSocial/#boycottnovell-social-www.tumfatig.net | TuM'Fatig - Running a Docker Host under OpenBSD using vmd(8) [08:09] TR News "This article will try to bring you up to speed on FreeBSD services management, and offer options for automation that you may find useful in your cloud-like environments." https://klarasystems.com/articles/rc8-freebsd-services-and-automation/ | Source: Klara [08:09] -TechrightsSocial/#boycottnovell-social-klarasystems.com | rc(8): FreeBSD Services and Automation - Klara Inc. [08:09] TR News "After talking about IoT development kits for the past several years, I figured it was time to get my hands dirty." https://staceyoniot.com/so-i-made-a-lora-based-prototype-using-a-dev-kit/ | Source: Stacey on IoT [08:09] -TechrightsSocial/#boycottnovell-social-staceyoniot.com | So I made a LoRa-based prototype using a dev kit - Stacey on IoT | Internet of Things news and analysis [08:09] *psydruid (~psydruid@jevhxkzmtrbww.irc) has left #boycottnovell-social [08:10] TR News "All makers love lasers and they make great shop tools. Even low-power lasers can engrave a variety of materials." https://blog.arduino.cc/2022/09/22/mokey-is-an-affordable-diy-laser-engraver/ | Source: Arduino [08:10] -TechrightsSocial/#boycottnovell-social-blog.arduino.cc | Mokey is an affordable DIY laser engraver | Arduino Blog [08:11] TR News "Today we have released a maintenance release of PowerDNS Recursor 4.5.11, 4.6.4 and 4.7.3" https://blog.powerdns.com/2022/09/20/powerdns-recursor-4-5-11-4-6-4-and-4-7-3-released/ | Source: PowerDNS [08:11] -TechrightsSocial/#boycottnovell-social-blog.powerdns.com | PowerDNS Recursor 4.5.11, 4.6.4 and 4.7.3 Released | PowerDNS Blog [08:12] TR News "This is it folks. Theyre going away fast." https://baronhk.wordpress.com/2022/09/23/web-engines-that-are-still-free-of-rust-as-of-september-2022-bonus-cascade-of-attention-deficit-web-developers/ | Source: DaemonFC (Ryan Farmer) [08:12] -TechrightsSocial/#boycottnovell-social-baronhk.wordpress.com | Web engines that are still free of Rust as of September 2022. Bonus: Cascade of Attention Deficit Web Developers | BaronHK's Rants [08:12] TR News "Firefox 105 is out. No, it's not your imagination: I ended up skipping a couple versions" https://www.talospace.com/2022/09/firefox-105-on-power.html | Source: Talospace [08:12] -TechrightsSocial/#boycottnovell-social-www.talospace.com | Firefox 105 on POWER [08:13] TR News "Because of environmental reasons (and the airport being nothing short of a complete clusterfuck), we took the Nightjet to Vienna." https://h3artbl33d.nl/blog/eurobsdcon-2022 | [08:13] -TechrightsSocial/#boycottnovell-social-h3artbl33d.nl | EuroBSDcon 2022 | h3artbl33d [08:14] TR News "SparkFun is dedicated to providing technical documentation and tools to support the use of new tech." https://www.sparkfun.com/news/5456 | Source: SparkFun Electronics [08:14] -TechrightsSocial/#boycottnovell-social-Technical Resource Collections: Technical Reference Support for Popular Technology Topics - News - SparkFun Electronics [08:14] TR News "In this blog post, Ill share my journey from studying biology to becoming a healthcare data analyst." Privacy issues a bit thing here :/ https://www.r-bloggers.com/2022/09/from-biology-to-healthcare-analytics-my-data-science-journey/ | Source: Rlang [08:14] -TechrightsSocial/#boycottnovell-social-From Biology to Healthcare Analytics: My Data Science Journey | R-bloggers [08:16] TR News [Old] "Standard Development Organizations (SDO) and Open Source Software (OSS) Projects offer two different models" https://papers.ssrn.com/sol3/papers.cfm?abstract_id=3790616 | Source: SSRN [08:16] -TechrightsSocial/#boycottnovell-social-papers.ssrn.com | Downsides of Using Inadequate Open Source Software Processes and Licenses within Standard Development Organizations by Michele Herman, Justus Baron :: SSRN [08:16] TR News Open Data: "In the run-up to the October finale, meet the 12 EU Datathon finalist teams and peek behind the scenes! Launched at the beginning of September" https://joinup.ec.europa.eu/collection/open-data/news/video-series-about-eu-datathon-2022-finalists | Source: Joinup [08:17] -TechrightsSocial/#boycottnovell-social-joinup.ec.europa.eu | Video series about EU Datathon 2022 finalists | Joinup [08:17] TR News "C++ will continue to endure for decades, but greenfield projects that fit the requirements should consider an alternative" https://matt-rickard.com/rust-vs-c | Source: Matt Rickard [08:17] -TechrightsSocial/#boycottnovell-social-matt-rickard.com | Rust, C++, or Carbon? [08:17] TR News "What to learn in order to not become obsolete as a software developer, and then being forced into early retirement from programming?" https://alexn.org/blog/2022/09/22/proprietary-environments-are-a-trap/ | Source: Alexandru Nedelcu [08:17] -TechrightsSocial/#boycottnovell-social-alexn.org | Proprietary Environments are a Trap - Alexandru Nedelcu [08:18] TR News [Old] "The knowledge I've gained about programming POSIX is still useful, even though I learned a lot of it over twenty years ago." https://web.archive.org/web/20150309050037/http://tuxdeluxe.org/node/122 | [08:18] -TechrightsSocial/#boycottnovell-social-web.archive.org | Working for The Man | Tux Deluxe [08:18] TR News "Not quite aphorisms." https://www.datagubbe.se/short/ | Source: Carl Svensson [08:18] -TechrightsSocial/#boycottnovell-social-Short Thoughts on Computers and Programming | datagubbe.se [08:19] TR News [Old] "What Would Open Source Look Like If It Were Healthy?" https://harihareswara.net/posts/2021/what-would-open-source-look-like-if-it-were-healthy-video-transcript/ | [08:19] -TechrightsSocial/#boycottnovell-social-harihareswara.net | What Would Open Source Look Like If It Were Healthy? Video & Transcript | Cogito, Ergo Sumana [08:20] TR News "I want and aim for libcurl to be the best documented software library in the world." https://daniel.haxx.se/blog/2022/09/22/taking-curl-documentation-quality-up-one-more-notch/ | Source: Daniel Stenberg [08:20] -TechrightsSocial/#boycottnovell-social-Taking curl documentation quality up one more notch | daniel.haxx.se [08:21] TR News "The idea is tree-shaking analyzing a program's control flow to see what functions will be called and removing unused code." https://matt-rickard.com/tree-shaking | Source: Matt Rickard [08:21] -TechrightsSocial/#boycottnovell-social-matt-rickard.com | Tree Shaking [08:21] TR News "This is the Adafruit weekly Python on Microcontrollers newsletter video highlights!" https://blog.adafruit.com/2022/09/22/the-python-on-hardware-weekly-video-september-21-2022-circuitpython-python-micropython-adafruit/ | Source: Adafruit [08:21] -TechrightsSocial/#boycottnovell-social-blog.adafruit.com | The Python on Hardware weekly video September 21, 2022 #CircuitPython #Python @micropython @Adafruit Adafruit Industries Makers, hackers, artists, designers and engineers! [08:22] TR News "Java Development Kit 19, a non-LTS (long-term support) release of standard Java, arrives today as a production release" https://www.infoworld.com/article/3653331/jdk-19-the-new-features-in-java-19.html | Source: InfoWorld [08:22] -TechrightsSocial/#boycottnovell-social-JDK 19: The new features in Java 19 | InfoWorld [08:22] TR News "Oracle today announced the availability of Java 19, the latest version of the worlds number one programming language and development platform." https://cio.economictimes.indiatimes.com/news/consumer-tech/java-19s-key-capabilities-to-be-showcased-at-javaone-2022-in-las-vegas/94375327 | Source: India Times [08:22] -TechrightsSocial/#boycottnovell-social-cio.economictimes.indiatimes.com | java: Java 19s key capabilities to be showcased at JavaOne 2022 in Las Vegas, CIO News, ET CIO [08:23] TR News The Web has become such a sordid mess. Lies, spam, ads. Without curation, today's WWW is not usable and not informative. [08:24] TR News [cat] gemini://nytpu.com/sneps/D362.jpg [08:25] TR News "I turned 30 yesterday. I'm currently struggling with this. Part of me wants to bury myself in old anime and games and pretend it's 2006. Part of me wants to really start kissing ass at work so I can start working on one of those "careers" I'm supposed to have. I have no idea what to do." gemini://tskaalgard.midnight.pub/diary.gmi [08:25] TR News [cat] gemini://nytpu.com/cheetahs/D708.jpg [08:26] TR News "The newest, Smarter than Smart, TVs are becoming nastier..." gemini://station.martinrue.com/freezr/7647b2f6952043e08dc8ccc1c5a288c4 [08:27] TR News Plainly Put: Plane Power Play gemini://warmedal.se/~bjorn/posts/2022-09-23-plainly-put-plane-power-play.gmi "I'm not sure I like that sort of gameplay. When I play single player games I start a lot earlier, using a few mods that add earlier vehicles. That means the addition of planes is far away. It's a much more relaxing sort of game." [08:31] TR News "In The Cave of Time, the first book in the series, you discover a time-travelling cave whose tunnels carry you to Colonial Massachusetts, where you become a soap-makers apprentice; or to the Titanic, where your attempts to warn the captain are futile" https://www.newyorker.com/magazine/2022/09/19/the-enduring-allure-of-choose-your-own-adventure-books | Source: New Yorker [08:31] -TechrightsSocial/#boycottnovell-social-www.newyorker.com | The Enduring Allure of Choose Your Own Adventure Books | The New Yorker [08:31] TR News "In The Cave of Time, the first book in the series, you discover a time-travelling cave whose tunnels carry you to Colonial Massachusetts, where you become a soap-makers apprentice" https://www.newyorker.com/magazine/2022/09/19/the-enduring-allure-of-choose-your-own-adventure-books | Source: New Yorker [08:31] *psydruid (~psydruid@jevhxkzmtrbww.irc) has joined #boycottnovell-social [08:33] TR News [Old] "If you reword your job advertisements to remove this $TECHNOLOGY as a requirement and replace it with a desirable (or just mention you use it)" https://mikemcquaid.com/stop-requiring-specific-technology-experience-for-senior-plus-engineers/ | Source: Mike McQuaid [08:33] -TechrightsSocial/#boycottnovell-social-mikemcquaid.com | Stop requiring specific technology experience for senior-plus engineers | Mike McQuaid [08:34] TR News "Sears, a student with a disability, was placed into conflict with a tenured professor who held power over him and denied him meaningful access to education services" https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/newfoundland-labrador/william-sears-ranee-panjabi-human-rights-decision-1.6589955 | Source: CBC [08:34] -TechrightsSocial/#boycottnovell-social-www.cbc.ca | Former MUN student wins human rights case after prof refused to wear a mic | CBC News [08:35] TR News "Prototyping is moving. Its the meeting, the considering, and the conceptualizing, but with iterative progress in a concrete artifact." https://blog.jim-nielsen.com/2022/moving-with-prototypes/ | Source: Jim Nielsen [08:35] -TechrightsSocial/#boycottnovell-social-blog.jim-nielsen.com | Moving With Prototypes - Jim Nielsens Blog [08:41] TR News "The ROS-Industrial Community Meeting was held on Wednesday, 9/21, and it brought with it a few interesting updates for the Industrial ROS community" https://rosindustrial.org/news/2022/9/22/fall-2022-ros-i-community-meeting-happenings | Source: ROS Industrial [08:41] -TechrightsSocial/#boycottnovell-social-rosindustrial.org | Fall 2022 ROS-I Community Meeting Happenings ROS-Industrial [08:42] TR News "In a book written by Persky, he goes over some of the more recurring customers on the site" https://www.techspot.com/news/96042-last-man-selling-floppy-disks-receives-orders-airlines.html | Source: TechSpot [08:42] -TechrightsSocial/#boycottnovell-social-The last man selling floppy disks says he still receives orders from airlines | TechSpot [08:52] TR News "Garrett Hawkins, president of the Missouri Farm Bureau, testified to the broadband needs of farmers." https://broadbandbreakfast.com/2022/09/republican-congressmen-criticize-ntia-fcc-absence-at-farm-bill-hearing/ | Source: Broadband Breakfast [08:52] -TechrightsSocial/#boycottnovell-social-broadbandbreakfast.com | Republican Congressmen Criticize NTIA, FCC Absence at Farm Bill Hearing : Broadband Breakfast [08:52] TR News [Old] "Doctors in British Columbia can now prescribe a national park pass to patients in need of the physical or mental health benefits offered by time spent in nature" https://globalnews.ca/news/8587316/bc-doctors-prescription-park-pass/ | Source: Global News CA [08:52] -TechrightsSocial/#boycottnovell-social-B.C. doctors can now prescribe national park pass to patients who need nature time | Globalnews.ca [08:54] TR News "Credit the coronavirus pandemic for wastewaters growing role in tracking emerging threats to public health." https://www.bridgemi.com/michigan-health-watch/sewer-poop-its-not-just-covid-testing-anymore | Source: Bridge Michigan [08:54] -TechrightsSocial/#boycottnovell-social-www.bridgemi.com | Sewer poop: its not just for COVID testing anymore | Bridge Michigan [08:59] TR News GitHus is NOT FOSS. It's an occupation against it! It's also an attack on Git itself (de-commoditisation by Microsoft, vendor lock-in) https://harihareswara.net/posts/2022/what-you-miss-by-only-checking-github/ | [08:59] -TechrightsSocial/#boycottnovell-social-harihareswara.net | What You Miss By Only Checking GitHub | Cogito, Ergo Sumana [08:59] TR News Popcorn time (not the program) https://variety.com/2022/digital/news/instagram-down-widespread-technical-problems-app-1235380663/ | Source: Variety [08:59] -TechrightsSocial/#boycottnovell-social-Instagram Down: Users Report Widespread Technical Problems With App - Variety ● Sep 23 [09:00] TR News Proprietary designs and patents, ripping off the most vulnerable people https://www.teenvogue.com/story/why-prosthetics-so-expensive | Source: Teen Vogue [09:00] -TechrightsSocial/#boycottnovell-social-www.teenvogue.com | Why Are Prosthetics So Expensive? Researchers Are Working to Change That | Teen Vogue [09:00] TR News "A new rhythm game called "Trombone Champ" has struck a chord with users online, bringing the kind of much-needed levity to the internet that only a trombone can" https://edition.cnn.com/2022/09/22/tech/trombone-champ/index.html | Source: CNN [09:00] -TechrightsSocial/#boycottnovell-social-edition.cnn.com | The internet's new favorite video game is like 'Guitar Hero' but with trombones | CNN Business [09:03] TR News "Lima is powered by QEMU and is frequently used (via colima) to run containers on macOS. That is, it can be used as an alternative to docker desktop." https://earthly.dev/blog/lima/ | Source: Earthly [09:03] -TechrightsSocial/#boycottnovell-social-earthly.dev | Lima VM - Linux Virtual Machines On macOS - Earthly Blog [09:04] TR News "decades of experience" https://www.theregister.com/2022/09/20/linux_foundation_europe/ lobbying for bad companies http://techrights.org/2022/09/21/lf-openwashing-front-group/ [09:04] -TechrightsSocial/#boycottnovell-social-www.theregister.com | Linux Foundation launches European division The Register [09:04] -TechrightsSocial/#boycottnovell-social-techrights.org | Linux Foundation Europe a Front Group for Patent Trolls and American Monopolies | Techrights [09:04] *starstreak has quit (connection closed) [09:04] *starstreak (~starstreak@muarsy2vret2q.irc) has joined #boycottnovell-social [09:04] TR News "The Court of Justice confirms that EU law precludes the general and indiscriminate retention of traffic and location data" https://curia.europa.eu/jcms/upload/docs/application/pdf/2022-09/cp220156en.pdf | Source: CJEU [09:04] TR News "Over the past eight months, Han Nyein Oos Telegram channels, and those of other pro-coup figures, including self-defined journalist Thazin Oo" https://www.wired.com/story/telegrams-doxing-problem/ | Source: Wired [09:04] -TechrightsSocial/#boycottnovell-social-Telegram Has a Serious Doxing Problem | WIRED [09:05] TR News "AB 2273, or the California Age-Appropriate Design Code Act, promises to make the Internet safer for childrenin part by tightening age verification" https://spectrum.ieee.org/californias-proposed-law-could-change-the-internet | Source: IEEE [09:05] -TechrightsSocial/#boycottnovell-social-spectrum.ieee.org | Californias Proposed Law Could Change the Internet - IEEE Spectrum [09:05] TR News "In this tutorial, you will build a facial recognition system." https://earthly.dev/blog/face-recog-sys-with-jupyter/ | Source: Earthly [09:05] -TechrightsSocial/#boycottnovell-social-earthly.dev | Creating and Deploying a Facial Recognition System with Jupyter Notebooks and Anvil - Earthly Blog [09:05] TR News "To give a bit of context on the Fediverse switch, hers how I use the Big Tech Services: [...]" https://www.tumfatig.net/1/ | Source: TuMFatig [09:05] -TechrightsSocial/#boycottnovell-social-www.tumfatig.net | TuM'Fatig - [09:06] TR News "The current version of Certificate Transparency is described in RFC 9162." https://utcc.utoronto.ca/~cks/space/blog/tech/TLSCertTransLogsClientView | Source: uni Toronto [09:06] -TechrightsSocial/#boycottnovell-social-utcc.utoronto.ca | Chris's Wiki :: blog/tech/TLSCertTransLogsClientView [09:07] TR News "According to Crew, the threats in question were made by a member of Vorherrschaft Division on a far-right extremist messaging site called Telegram." https://www.salon.com/2022/09/22/secret-warned-capitol-police-of-neo-nazi-a-week-prior-to-insurrection/ | Source: Salon [09:07] -TechrightsSocial/#boycottnovell-social-Secret Service warned Capitol Police of neo-Nazi threats a week prior to insurrection | Salon.com [09:08] TR News "The Chinese government recruited scientists, who worked at Los Alamos National Laboratory in New Mexico, for assisting China to advance key military and dual-use technologies in areas such as hypersonics" https://cio.economictimes.indiatimes.com/news/next-gen-technologies/china-targeted-scientists-working-in-us-labs-to-advance-military-technologies-report/94386011 | Source: India Times [09:08] -TechrightsSocial/#boycottnovell-social-cio.economictimes.indiatimes.com | china: China targeted scientists working in US labs to advance military technologies: Report, CIO News, ET CIO [09:08] *psydruid (~psydruid@jevhxkzmtrbww.irc) has left #boycottnovell-social [09:08] *psydruid (~psydruid@jevhxkzmtrbww.irc) has joined #boycottnovell-social [09:08] TR News "Rewilding in cities can tackle these impacts with more diverse greenery and space for water, which cools the air and absorbs rainfall" https://www.thenational.wales/news/22514911.rewilding-cities-can-tackle-climate-driven-heatwaves-floods---zsl/ | Source: Newsquest Media Group Ltd [09:09] -TechrightsSocial/#boycottnovell-social-www.thenational.wales | Rewilding in cities can tackle climate-driven heatwaves and floods ZSL | The National Wales [09:10] TR News

  • [09:10] TR News "Our world is in peril" https://www.cbc.ca/news/world/un-general-assembly-world-peril-1.6588574?cmp=rss | Source: CBC [09:10] -TechrightsSocial/#boycottnovell-social-www.cbc.ca | 'Our world is in peril,' UN secretary-general warns general assembly | CBC News [09:12] TR News Overpopulation still the elephant in the room. The cities themselves are means of accommodating far too many people. Over capacity = Overpopulation. See countries where there's no chance of feeding the people (bar imports): Macao, Singapore.... https://www.zsl.org/science/news/rewilding-our-cities-could-reduce-impacts-of-extreme-weather-says-new-report | [09:12] -TechrightsSocial/#boycottnovell-social-www.zsl.org | Rewilding our cities could reduce impacts of extreme weather, says new report | Zoological Society of London (ZSL) [09:12] TR News Need more nature https://www.conservation.org/blog/new-report-without-nature-there-is-no-path-to-a-climate-safe-future | [09:13] -TechrightsSocial/#boycottnovell-social-www.conservation.org | New report: Without nature, there is no path to a climate-safe future [09:13] TR News UK Composition Of Foods Integrated Dataset (COFID) https://journals.plos.org/plosone/article?id=10.1371/journal.pone.0259418#sec015 | Source: PLOS [09:13] -TechrightsSocial/#boycottnovell-social-journals.plos.org | Variations in greenhouse gas emissions of individual diets: Associations between the greenhouse gas emissions and nutrient intake in the United Kingdom | PLOS ONE [09:13] TR News "Kerry and Gore were speaking at an event hosted by The New York Times as part of Climate Week NYC" https://www.thenation.com/article/environment/david-malpass-climate-denier/ | Source: The Nation [09:13] -TechrightsSocial/#boycottnovell-social-www.thenation.com | The White House Wants a Climate Denier Out as World Bank President | The Nation [09:14] *psydruid (~psydruid@jevhxkzmtrbww.irc) has left #boycottnovell-social [09:14] TR News Insincere solutioneering, e.g. claims corporations will solve climate change, won't help the fake (centrist, corporate) left. 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[09:15] TR News "We have a 55 inch QLED Samsung TV from 2018." https://blog.didierstevens.com/2022/09/22/quickpost-tuning-the-electric-energy-consumption-of-my-tv/ | Source: Didier Stevens [09:15] -TechrightsSocial/#boycottnovell-social-blog.didierstevens.com | Quickpost: Tuning The Electric Energy Consumption Of My TV | Didier Stevens [09:16] TR News "$30 Million Seized: How the Cryptocurrency Community Is Making It Difficult for North Korean Hackers To Profit" https://blog.dshr.org/2022/09/cryptocurrency-enabled-crime.html | Source: David Rosenthal [09:16] -TechrightsSocial/#boycottnovell-social-blog.dshr.org | DSHR's Blog: Cryptocurrency-enabled Crime [09:16] TR News Uniper https://www.lemonde.fr/en/economy/article/2022/09/22/germany-finally-nationalizes-energy-company-uniper_5997850_19.html | Source: Le Monde [09:16] -TechrightsSocial/#boycottnovell-social-www.lemonde.fr | Germany nationalizes energy company Uniper [09:16] TR News Fossil fuels make up 90% of Middle East air pollution https://today.rtl.lu/news/science-and-environment/a/1969752.html | Source: RTL [09:16] -TechrightsSocial/#boycottnovell-social-today.rtl.lu | RTL Today - Dangerous levels: Fossil fuels make up 90% of Middle East air pollution: study [09:17] TR News "A total of 1,600 square kilometers (994 square miles) of the lagoon and the nearby Mediterranean coastline will now be legally represented by a group of caretakers made up of local officials" https://abcnews.go.com/International/wireStory/spain-grants-personhood-status-mar-menor-lagoon-90266201 | Source: ABC [09:17] -TechrightsSocial/#boycottnovell-social-abcnews.go.com | Spain gives personhood status to Mar Menor salt-water lagoon - ABC News [09:17] TR News "This will allow the rights of the lagoon located in southeastern Spain to be defended in court, as though it were a person or business." https://today.rtl.lu/news/science-and-environment/a/1969371.html | Source: RTL [09:17] -TechrightsSocial/#boycottnovell-social-today.rtl.lu | RTL Today - Lagoon has "legal identity": Spain grants personhood status to threatened lagoon [09:18] TR News "Remember "deadpool" up in Lake Mead? Nabity worries it's coming faster than predicted." https://text.npr.org/1124150368 | Source: NPR [09:18] -TechrightsSocial/#boycottnovell-social-text.npr.org | Where the Colorado River crisis is hitting home [09:18] TR News "Probably one of my favourite pieces of software. I often have a love / hate relationship with it due to some historic instability issues" https://www.gamingonlinux.com/2022/09/kde-are-raising-funds-for-the-kdenlive-video-editor/ | Source: GamingOnLinux [09:18] -TechrightsSocial/#boycottnovell-social-KDE are raising funds for the Kdenlive video editor | GamingOnLinux [09:19] TR News "become a Kdenlive patro" https://kdenlive.org/en/fund/ | [09:19] -TechrightsSocial/#boycottnovell-social-kdenlive.org | Kdenlive Fundraiser - Kdenlive [09:20] TR News IRC Proceedings: Thursday, September 22, 2022 | Techrights http://techrights.org/2022/09/23/irc-log-220922/ | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2022/09/23/irc-log-220922/ [09:20] -TechrightsSocial/#boycottnovell-social-techrights.org | IRC Proceedings: Thursday, September 22, 2022 | Techrights [09:22] TR News "Microsoft Corp. wont label social media posts that appear to be false in order to avoid the appearance that the company is trying to censor speech online" https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2022-09-21/microsoft-won-t-say-what-s-false-when-labeling-propaganda-online Liars. http://techrights.org/2020/06/28/linkedin-censorship/ [09:22] -TechrightsSocial/#boycottnovell-social-Bloomberg - Are you a robot? [09:22] -TechrightsSocial/#boycottnovell-social-techrights.org | When It Comes to Killing Businesses Microsoft Defends Its Crown | Techrights [09:22] TR News "climate doom" https://eu.usatoday.com/story/opinion/voices/2022/09/22/climate-doom-tiktok-gen-z-eco-anxiety/8004862001/ | Source: Gannett "My social media is littered with videos from teens my age spreading hopelessness and despair" [09:22] -TechrightsSocial/#boycottnovell-social-www.usatoday.com | Climate 'doomism' is going viral on TikTok and it's hurting Gen Z [09:22] TR News "investigations into unproven claims of fraud in the 2020 presidential election" https://eu.detroitnews.com/story/news/local/michigan/2022/09/21/michigan-cracking-down-on-election-clerks-who-gave-away-tabulators/69508854007/ | Source: Digital First Media [09:22] -TechrightsSocial/#boycottnovell-social-www.detroitnews.com | State cracking down on election clerks who gave away tabulators [09:24] TR News SO WHAT IS THE POINT HAVING CHUCK? "All of his speeches are written or vetted by the government" https://federalnewsnetwork.com/government-news/2022/09/constitution-stops-charles-becoming-britains-green-king/ | Source: Federal News Network [09:24] -TechrightsSocial/#boycottnovell-social-federalnewsnetwork.com | Constitution stops Charles becoming Britains green king | Federal News Network [09:24] TR News "Whistleblower Frances Haugen -- a former Facebook engineer who leaked documents suggesting the firm put profits before safety -- on Thursday launched an organization" https://www.news.com.au/breaking-news/facebook-whistleblower-launches-nonprofit-to-take-on-big-tech/news-story/ef44885af09a900cc3f49aa7c400dd90 | Source: News AU [09:24] -TechrightsSocial/#boycottnovell-social- ( status 403 @ https://www.news.com.au/breaking-news/facebook-whistleblower-launches-nonprofit-to-take-on-big-tech/news-story/ef44885af09a900cc3f49aa7c400dd90 ) [09:25] TR News "Iranians have taken to the streets "to achieve their fundamental rights and human dignity..." https://www.france24.com/en/middle-east/20220922-protesters-torch-police-stations-as-unrest-in-iran-over-woman-s-death-continues | Source: France24 [09:25] -TechrightsSocial/#boycottnovell-social-www.france24.com | Irans Raisi vows probe of womans death that sparked deadly protests [09:25] TR News "the investigation is related to tweets" https://www.hrw.org/news/2022/09/16/saudi-arabia-drop-baseless-investigation-us-citizen | Source: HRW [09:25] -TechrightsSocial/#boycottnovell-social-www.hrw.org | Saudi Arabia: Drop Baseless Investigation of US Citizen | Human Rights Watch [09:25] TR News [Old] "In the last 45 years, I've made eight. That shows what a blacklist can do to a career." https://www.abc.net.au/news/2022-09-11/hollywood-actress-marsha-hunt-dies-at-104-in-california-home/101427548 | Source: ABC [09:25] -TechrightsSocial/#boycottnovell-social-www.abc.net.au | Actress from Hollywood's 'Golden Age' turned activist, Marsha Hunt, dies aged 104 in California - ABC News [09:25] TR News "Now, Jones is pushing back, bringing suit against some of the Facebook groups" https://www.edweek.org/policy-politics/a-school-librarian-pushes-back-on-censorship-and-gets-death-threats-and-online-harassment/2022/09 | Source: EducationWeek [09:25] -TechrightsSocial/#boycottnovell-social-www.edweek.org | A School Librarian Pushes Back on Censorship and Gets Death Threats and Online Harassment [09:26] TR News "The Russian President Vladimir Putin awarded the Hero of Russia title posthumously to Victor Tretyakevich" https://meduza.io/en/news/2022/09/22/victor-tretyakevich-executed-in-1943-and-once-considered-a-traitor-posthumously-made-hero-of-russia | Source: Meduza [09:26] -TechrightsSocial/#boycottnovell-social-meduza.io | NO TITLE [09:27] TR News Moscow Helsinki Group https://meduza.io/en/news/2022/09/22/bono-boris-akunin-and-ekaterina-shulman-contribute-items-for-auction-to-benefit-russians-accused-of-discrediting-army | Source: Meduza [09:27] -TechrightsSocial/#boycottnovell-social-meduza.io | NO TITLE [09:28] TR News "Her father, Gholamreza Moaiery, who spoke to CPJ via messaging app, confirmed the arrest." https://cpj.org/ | Source: CPJ [09:28] -TechrightsSocial/#boycottnovell-social-cpj.org | Committee to Protect Journalists Defending Journalists Worldwide. - Committee to Protect Journalists [09:28] TR News "Assange revealed some documents and evidence from the U.S. embassy talking about the 2012 elections" https://www.plenglish.com/news/2022/09/21/president-lopez-obrador-calls-assange-a-quixote-of-freedom-of-speech/ | [09:28] -TechrightsSocial/#boycottnovell-social-www.plenglish.com | President Lpez Obrador calls Assange a Quixote of freedom of speech - Prensa Latina [09:28] TR News "Volodymyr Zelenskyy, the people of Ukraine, Julian Assange, Sonia Guajajara, and the Colombian Comision de Verdad are among the nominees for the 2022 Sakharov prize" https://www.euractiv.com/section/politics/news/zelenskyy-ukrainians-and-assange-among-nominees-for-2022-sakharov-prize/ | Source: Euractive [09:28] -TechrightsSocial/#boycottnovell-social-Zelenskyy, Ukrainians, and Assange among nominees for 2022 Sakharov prize EURACTIV.com [09:35] *psydruid (~psydruid@jevhxkzmtrbww.irc) has joined #boycottnovell-social [09:38] TR News "Great Transition Initiative" https://overpopulation-project.com/the-natural-synergy-between-population-stabilization-and-reproductive-rights/ | Source: Overpopulation [09:38] -TechrightsSocial/#boycottnovell-social-overpopulation-project.com | The Natural Synergy between Population Stabilization and Reproductive Rights - The Overpopulation Project [09:40] *psydruid (~psydruid@jevhxkzmtrbww.irc) has left #boycottnovell-social [09:40] TR News "The 1835 Treaty of New Echota, which was signed by then-President Andrew Jackson" https://www.axios.com/2022/09/22/cherokee-nation-launches-campaign-to-congress | Source: Axios [09:40] -TechrightsSocial/#boycottnovell-social-www.axios.com | Cherokee Nation launches campaign for delegate in Congress [09:40] *psydruid (~psydruid@jevhxkzmtrbww.irc) has joined #boycottnovell-social [09:40] TR News "Chinese authorities in Tibet have allegedly arrested and tortured five Tibetans" https://www.rfa.org/english/news/cambodia/religious_arrests-09212022163014.html | Source: RFA [09:40] -TechrightsSocial/#boycottnovell-social-www.rfa.org | Chinese authorities allegedly torture 5 Tibetans, 1 to death, for praying in public Radio Free Asia [09:40] TR News "Some 40 minutes after the interview was scheduled due to start and with Raisi running late" https://edition.cnn.com/2022/09/22/middleeast/iran-president-ebrahim-raisi-christiane-amanpour-intl | Source: CNN [09:40] -TechrightsSocial/#boycottnovell-social-edition.cnn.com | Iran's President abandons CNN interview after Amanpour declines head scarf demand | CNN [09:40] TR News "An interview between CNN's Chief International Anchor Christiane Amanpour and Iranian President" https://text.npr.org/1124559417 | Source: NPR [09:40] -TechrightsSocial/#boycottnovell-social-text.npr.org | CNN says Iran's president tried to make a hijab a condition for Amanpour interview [09:41] TR News "Amanpour pointed out that no previous presidents had requested this when she interviewed them outside Iran." https://www.bbc.com/news/world-middle-east-63000854 | Source: BBC [09:41] -TechrightsSocial/#boycottnovell-social-Iran: CNN cancels interview with Iranian president over headscarf demand - BBC News [09:41] TR News "The aide made it clear that the interview would not happen if I did not wear a headscarf." https://www.abc.net.au/news/2022-09-23/christiane-amanpour-cancels-iran-interview-headscarf-demand/101467488 | Source: ABC [09:41] -TechrightsSocial/#boycottnovell-social-www.abc.net.au | CNN's Christiane Amanpour cancels interview with Iranian President Ebrahim Raisi over headscarf demand, amid ongoing protests over death of Mahsa Amini - ABC News [09:42] TR News "7 protestors have been killed in East Kurdistan in the last four days." https://anfenglishmobile.com/kurdistan/seven-killed-during-ongoing-protests-in-east-kurdistan-against-the-killing-of-mahsa-amini-62608 | Source: ANF News [09:42] -TechrightsSocial/#boycottnovell-social-anfenglishmobile.com | ANF | Seven killed during ongoing protests in East Kurdistan against the killing of Mahsa Amini [09:43] TR News "Canal+ Group, the Vivendi-owned French TV group, has won its court case against TF1" https://variety.com/2022/digital/global/canal-court-case-tf1-carriage-dispute-1235380658/ | Source: Variety [09:43] -TechrightsSocial/#boycottnovell-social-Canal+ Wins Court Case Against TF1 in Carriage Fees Dispute - Variety [09:44] TR News [Old] "This report confirms that DRM represents a challenge to privacy interests" https://cippic.ca/sites/default/files/CIPPIC_Report_DRM_and_Privacy.pdf | [09:44] TR News Digital Restrictions (DRM): "Collier will oversee advertising sales and content for Rokus owned-and-operated channels" https://variety.com/2022/biz/news/charlie-collier-exits-fox-corp-roku-1235380667/ | Source: Variety [09:44] -TechrightsSocial/#boycottnovell-social-Charlie Collier Exits Fox Corp. to Join Roku as President of Media - Variety [09:45] TR News "The standard caught on, all software supports it, the patents are dead." https://baronhk.wordpress.com/2022/09/23/will-jpeg-xl-be-the-jpeg-replacement-weve-been-waiting-30-years-for/ | Source: DaemonFC (Ryan Farmer) [09:45] -TechrightsSocial/#boycottnovell-social-baronhk.wordpress.com | Will JPEG-XL be the JPEG replacement weve been waiting 30 years for? | BaronHK's Rants [09:46] *psydruid (~psydruid@jevhxkzmtrbww.irc) has left #boycottnovell-social [09:46] TR News "Effective immediately, Getty Images will cease to accept all submissions created using AI" https://app.engage.gettyimages.com/e/es?e=11409471&elq=ffb9ca1a980a43f29bb0563b4f8b5f27 | [09:46] -TechrightsSocial/#boycottnovell-social-app.engage.gettyimages.com | Important Submission Requirements Update re: AI Generated Content [09:46] TR News "The U.S. recorded music industry generated $7.69 billion during 2022s opening half" https://www.digitalmusicnews.com/2022/09/21/music-industry-us-revenue-h1-2022/ | Source: Digital Music News [09:46] -TechrightsSocial/#boycottnovell-social- ( status 520 @ https://www.digitalmusicnews.com/2022/09/21/music-industry-us-revenue-h1-2022/ ) [09:51] TR News (NEW): UbuntuDDE Remix 22.04 Brings the Deepin Desktop Environment to Ubuntu 22.04 LTS http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/09/23/UbuntuDDE_Remix_22_04_Brings_the_Deepin_Desktop_Environment.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/09/23/UbuntuDDE_Remix_22_04_Brings_the_Deepin_Desktop_Environment.gmi [09:51] -TechrightsSocial/#boycottnovell-social-news.tuxmachines.org | Tux Machines UbuntuDDE Remix 22.04 Brings the Deepin Desktop Environment to Ubuntu 22.04 LTS [09:55] TR News Ramzan Kadyrov https://meduza.io/en/news/2022/09/22/chechen-leader-ramzan-kadyrov-extremely-unhappy-about-russian-ukraine-prisoner-exchange | Source: Meduza [09:55] -TechrightsSocial/#boycottnovell-social-meduza.io | NO TITLE [09:58] *DaemonFC has quit (Quit: Leaving) ● Sep 23 [10:05] TR News (NEW): BSD: EuroBSDcon 2022, OpenBSD, FreeBSD http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/09/23/BSD_EuroBSDcon_2022_OpenBSD_FreeBSD.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/09/23/BSD_EuroBSDcon_2022_OpenBSD_FreeBSD.gmi [10:05] -TechrightsSocial/#boycottnovell-social-news.tuxmachines.org | Tux Machines BSD: EuroBSDcon 2022, OpenBSD, FreeBSD [10:05] TR News (NEW): Open Hardware/Modding: Kits and Technical Resource Collections http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/09/23/Open_Hardware_Modding_Kits_andTechnical_Resource_Collections.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/09/23/Open_Hardware_Modding_Kits_andTechnical_Resource_Collections.gmi [10:05] -TechrightsSocial/#boycottnovell-social-news.tuxmachines.org | Tux Machines Open Hardware/Modding: Kits and Technical Resource Collections [10:06] TR News "There was a time when soft drinks only came in six-packs of twelve-ounce bottles in the grocery store" https://www.counterpunch.org/2022/09/23/where-has-all-the-water-gone-check-the-grocery-store/ | Source: Counter Punch [10:06] -TechrightsSocial/#boycottnovell-social-Where Has All the Water Gone? Check the Grocery Store. - CounterPunch.org [10:07] TR News "When you have the cloud around you, you are toxic" https://www.counterpunch.org/2022/09/23/10-ways-the-left-is-vulnerable-to-cancellation-campaigning-and-how-we-might-overcome-this-tendency/ | Source: Counter Punch [10:07] -TechrightsSocial/#boycottnovell-social-10 Ways the Left is Vulnerable to Cancellation Campaigning and How We Might Overcome This Tendency - CounterPunch.org [10:09] TR News "It's that time of the year again, and NodeConf EU is almost upon us. This annual event is one of the leading Node.js events in Europe. It brings together contributors and innovators from the Node.js community to deliver a wide range of talks and workshops." https://developers.redhat.com/articles/2022/09/23/join-red-hat-team-nodeconf-eu-2022 [10:09] -TechrightsSocial/#boycottnovell-social-developers.redhat.com | Join the Red Hat team at NodeConf EU 2022 | Red Hat Developer [10:10] TR News Reproducible Builds (diffoscope): diffoscope 222 released https://diffoscope.org/news/diffoscope-222-released/ [10:10] -TechrightsSocial/#boycottnovell-social-diffoscope.org | diffoscope 222 released [10:13] TR News "Everyone knew it was coming" https://meduza.io/en/feature/2022/09/22/everyone-knew-it-was-coming | Source: Meduza [10:13] -TechrightsSocial/#boycottnovell-social-meduza.io | NO TITLE [10:17] TR News "partial mobilization" https://meduza.io/en/feature/2022/09/22/prepare-to-stand-up-for-your-convictions | Source: Meduza [10:17] -TechrightsSocial/#boycottnovell-social-meduza.io | NO TITLE [10:18] TR News "In Minsks main airport, police have begun stopping men with Russian passports for inspections" https://meduza.io/en/news/2022/09/22/belarus-police-stopping-russian-passport-holders-in-minsk-airport | Source: Meduza [10:18] -TechrightsSocial/#boycottnovell-social-meduza.io | NO TITLE [10:21] *psydruid (~psydruid@jevhxkzmtrbww.irc) has joined #boycottnovell-social [10:22] TR News Vladimir Tsimlyansky https://meduza.io/en/feature/2022/09/22/russia-s-partial-mobilization-continues-to-look-less-partial | Source: Meduza [10:22] -TechrightsSocial/#boycottnovell-social-meduza.io | NO TITLE [10:22] TR News (NEW): Security Issues and Proprietary Software http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/09/23/Security_Issues_and_Proprietary_Software.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/09/23/Security_Issues_and_Proprietary_Software.gmi [10:23] -TechrightsSocial/#boycottnovell-social-news.tuxmachines.org | Tux Machines Security Issues and Proprietary Software [10:36] TR News (NEW): Best Free and Open Source Alternatives to Apple Preview http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/09/23/Best_Free_and_Open_Source_Alternatives_to_Apple_Preview.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/09/23/Best_Free_and_Open_Source_Alternatives_to_Apple_Preview.gmi [10:36] -TechrightsSocial/#boycottnovell-social-news.tuxmachines.org | Tux Machines Best Free and Open Source Alternatives to Apple Preview [10:40] TR News (NEW): Today's HowTos http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/09/23/today_s_howtos.1.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/09/23/today_s_howtos.1.gmi [10:40] -TechrightsSocial/#boycottnovell-social-news.tuxmachines.org | Tux Machines today's howtos [10:41] TR News "The first time I met Dave was in the fall of 2000, on the ranch of a Budweiser..." https://www.counterpunch.org/2022/09/23/thank-you-dave-foreman/ | Source: Counter Punch [10:41] -TechrightsSocial/#boycottnovell-social-Thank You Dave Foreman - CounterPunch.org [10:42] TR News "Italys gas lobby should be entering early retirement. Instead, its rarely been riding so high." https://www.desmog.com/2022/09/21/italys-lurch-to-the-right-raises-risk-of-fossil-gas-lock-in/ | Source: DeSmog [10:42] -TechrightsSocial/#boycottnovell-social-Italys Lurch to the Right Raises Risk of Fossil Gas Lock-In - DeSmog [10:45] TR News (NEW): : Google Android Leftovers http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/09/23/Android_Leftovers.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/09/23/Android_Leftovers.gmi [10:45] -TechrightsSocial/#boycottnovell-social-news.tuxmachines.org | Tux Machines Android Leftovers [10:54] TR News "The unionists were always going to object to anything which further legitimises Sinn Fin" https://www.counterpunch.org/2022/09/22/how-northern-irelands-unionists-are-embarrassing-themselves-over-king-charles-meeting-with-sinn-fein/ | Source: Counter Punch [10:54] -TechrightsSocial/#boycottnovell-social-How Northern Ireland's Unionists are Embarrassing Themselves Over King Charles' Meeting with Sinn Fin - CounterPunch.org [10:54] TR News "The roundups are physically tortuous and indiscriminate." https://www.counterpunch.org/2022/09/22/why-are-wild-horses-brutally-uprooted-from-public-lands-while-private-livestock-can-stay/ | Source: Counter Punch [10:54] -TechrightsSocial/#boycottnovell-social-Why Are Wild Horses Brutally Uprooted From Public Lands While Private Livestock Can Stay? - CounterPunch.org [10:56] TR News "The share of working-age Americans who have a job or are looking for one is at 62.4 percent" https://www.counterpunch.org/2022/09/22/the-non-mystery-of-a-smaller-labor-force/ | Source: Counter Punch [10:56] -TechrightsSocial/#boycottnovell-social-The Non-Mystery of a Smaller Labor Force - CounterPunch.org [10:57] TR News "Here are just the three most obvious ways our military is an enemy of climate mitigation" https://www.counterpunch.org/2022/09/22/the-nightmare-of-military-spending-on-an-overheating-planet/ | Source: Counter Punch [10:57] -TechrightsSocial/#boycottnovell-social-The Nightmare of Military Spending on an Overheating Planet - CounterPunch.org [10:58] TR News "reporting on the downhill turn of U.S. life expectancy isfertile ground for the emergence of press bias" https://www.counterpunch.org/2022/09/22/press-coverage-of-declining-us-life-expectancy-evades-the-truth/ | Source: Counter Punch [10:58] -TechrightsSocial/#boycottnovell-social-Press Coverage of Declining US Life Expectancy Evades the Truth - CounterPunch.org ● Sep 23 [11:04] TR News "We lived in Eritrea from 2006 to 2021 and saw first hand the rapid rate of water conservation" https://www.counterpunch.org/2022/09/22/preventing-climate-disaster-in-africa-eritrea-leads-the-way/ | Source: Counter Punch [11:04] -TechrightsSocial/#boycottnovell-social-Preventing Climate Disaster in Africa: Eritrea Leads the Way - CounterPunch.org [11:04] TR News Nixons Famous Price Freeze Did Stop Inflation https://www.counterpunch.org/2022/09/22/nixons-famous-price-freeze-did-stop-inflation/ | Source: Counter Punch [11:04] -TechrightsSocial/#boycottnovell-social-Nixons Famous Price Freeze Did Stop Inflation - CounterPunch.org [11:05] TR News Secrecy's privatization https://www.counterpunch.org/2022/09/22/what-trumps-document-grab-tells-us-about-the-privatization-of-secrecy/ | Source: Counter Punch [11:05] -TechrightsSocial/#boycottnovell-social-What Trump's Document Grab Tells Us About the Privatization of Secrecy - CounterPunch.org [11:05] TR News "Germany is ready, under certain conditions, to give asylum to defectors from the Russian army" https://meduza.io/en/news/2022/09/22/germany-ready-to-accept-russian-deserters-and-conscientious-objectors | Source: Meduza [11:05] -TechrightsSocial/#boycottnovell-social-meduza.io | NO TITLE [11:05] TR News "On September 2122, Russian social media filled with videos showing heavy traffic at the countrys border" https://meduza.io/en/feature/2022/09/23/traffic-jams-form-at-russia-s-border-checkpoints-as-potential-conscripts-scramble-to-escape | Source: Meduza [11:06] -TechrightsSocial/#boycottnovell-social-meduza.io | NO TITLE [11:06] TR News "Ukraines President Volodymyr Zelensky switched to Russian during his video address on day 211 of the war" https://meduza.io/en/news/2022/09/23/zelensky-speaks-to-russians-about-mobilization-and-survival-in-the-war | Source: Meduza [11:06] -TechrightsSocial/#boycottnovell-social-meduza.io | NO TITLE [11:06] TR News "An attack by Azerbaijan on Armenia left more than 200 people dead before a ceasefire was called last Wednesday." https://www.democracynow.org/2022/9/22/roubina_margossian_2022_azerbaijan_attack_armenia | Source: Democracy Now [11:06] -TechrightsSocial/#boycottnovell-social-www.democracynow.org | Azerbaijans Deadly Attack on Armenia Inflames Decades-Long Conflict in South Caucasus | Democracy Now! [11:12] TR News "Former President Donald Trump is facing his greatest legal peril yet" https://www.democracynow.org/2022/9/22/david_cay_johnston_trump_legal_setbacks | Source: Democracy Now [11:12] -TechrightsSocial/#boycottnovell-social-www.democracynow.org | Art of the Steal: Trump Faces Greatest Legal Peril Yet as NY AG Sues Trumps & Docs Probe Resumes | Democracy Now! [11:12] TR News Women Burn Hijabs in Iran https://www.democracynow.org/2022/9/22/mass_protests_erupt_iran_mahsa_amini | Source: Democracy Now [11:12] -TechrightsSocial/#boycottnovell-social-www.democracynow.org | Women Burn Hijabs in Iran as Protests Escalate over Killing of Mahsa Amini by Morality Police | Democracy Now! [11:13] TR News "After a copyright blunder led to a major boost for the horror genre" https://torrentfreak.com/youtubers-lose-brains-over-night-of-the-living-dead-copyright-claims-220922/ | Source: Torrent Freak [11:13] TR News "Nearly a quarter of all U.S. households believe that piracy is justified" https://torrentfreak.com/movie-music-piracy-acceptable-to-a-growing-number-of-u-s-households-220922/ | Source: Torrent Freak [11:13] -TechrightsSocial/#boycottnovell-social-YouTubers Lose Brains Over Night of The Living Dead Copyright Claims * TorrentFreak [11:13] -TechrightsSocial/#boycottnovell-social-Movie & Music Piracy Acceptable to a Growing Number of U.S. Households * TorrentFreak [11:13] TR News Cuba https://www.democracynow.org/2022/9/22/cuban_deputy_foreign_minister_un_assembly | Source: Democracy Now [11:14] -TechrightsSocial/#boycottnovell-social-www.democracynow.org | Cubas Deputy Foreign Minister on U.S. Embargo, Gay Marriage & Russias Invasion of Ukraine | Democracy Now! [11:14] TR News "inflation coverage" https://fair.org/home/weve-incentivized-corporations-to-go-after-this-price-gouging-strategy/ | Source: FAIR [11:14] -TechrightsSocial/#boycottnovell-social-fair.org | 'We've Incentivized Corporations to Go After This Price-Gouging Strategy' - FAIR [11:14] TR News "In 2019, the Supreme Court of the United States resolved a long-running lawsuit over asset forfeiture." https://www.techdirt.com/2022/09/21/ohio-supreme-court-says-theres-nothing-wrong-with-cops-seizing-a-31000-truck-over-an-850-criminal-offense/ | Source: Techdirt [11:15] -TechrightsSocial/#boycottnovell-social-Ohio Supreme Court Says Theres Nothing Wrong With Cops Seizing A $31,000 Truck Over An $850 Criminal Offense | Techdirt [11:15] TR News "America in Focus" https://fair.org/home/dragging-trump-into-spotlight-feeds-his-dangerous-movement/ | Source: FAIR [11:15] -TechrightsSocial/#boycottnovell-social-fair.org | Dragging Trump Into Spotlight Feeds His Dangerous Movement - FAIR [11:15] TR News Journalism Competition and Preservation Act (JCPA) is AGAINST journalism and against the Web https://www.techdirt.com/2022/09/22/klobuchars-link-tax-is-back-and-somehow-even-worse-helps-trumpist-grifters-get-free-money-no-moderation-from-google/ | Source: Techdirt [11:15] -TechrightsSocial/#boycottnovell-social-Klobuchars Link Tax Is Back And Somehow Even Worse? Helps Trumpist Grifters Get Free Money & No Moderation From Google | Techdirt [11:16] TR News Iran shutters mobile networks, Instagram, WhatsApp amid protests - The Record by Recorded Future https://therecord.media/iran-shutters-mobile-networks-instagram-whatsapp-amid-protests/ Source: The Record | Gemini address: gemini://gemi.dev/cgi-bin/waffle.cgi/view?https%3A//therecord.media/iran-shutters-mobile-networks-instagram-whatsapp-amid-protests/ [11:16] -TechrightsSocial/#boycottnovell-social-therecord.media | Iran shutters mobile networks, Instagram, WhatsApp amid protests - The Record by Recorded Future [11:17] TR News "As protests continue over the death of a woman in police custody in Iran, access to Instagram and WhatsApp has been blocked." https://www.forbes.com/sites/emmawoollacott/2022/09/22/iran-shuts-down-whatsapp-and-instagram-as-protests-spread/ [11:17] -TechrightsSocial/#boycottnovell-social-www.forbes.com | Iran Shuts Down WhatsApp And Instagram As Protests Spread [11:18] TR News Mozilla urges action to unpick platform browser lock-ins https://techcrunch.com/2022/09/22/mozilla-browser-research/ Source: TechCrunch | Gemini address: gemini://gemi.dev/cgi-bin/waffle.cgi/view?https%3A//techcrunch.com/2022/09/22/mozilla-browser-research/ [11:18] -TechrightsSocial/#boycottnovell-social-Mozilla urges action to unpick platform browser lock-ins TechCrunch [11:19] TR News ItsFOSS helps Microsoft propaganda. Appalling. Anti-Linux. https://news.itsfoss.com/systemd-wsl/ see http://techrights.org/2022/09/21/ubuntu-windows-systemd/ [11:19] -TechrightsSocial/#boycottnovell-social-news.itsfoss.com | Systemd is Now Available in WSL [11:19] -TechrightsSocial/#boycottnovell-social-techrights.org | Official Ubuntu Blog Has Just Promoted Microsoft Windows+Systemd | Techrights [11:21] TR News Microsofters deflecing the blame, as usual https://www.bleepingcomputer.com/news/security/microsoft-exchange-servers-hacked-via-oauth-apps-for-phishing/ [11:21] -TechrightsSocial/#boycottnovell-social-www.bleepingcomputer.com | Microsoft Exchange servers hacked via OAuth apps for phishing [11:21] TR News Python does not value backward compatibility. Good reason to avoid Python. https://archlinux.org/news/removing-python2-from-the-repositories/ [11:22] -TechrightsSocial/#boycottnovell-social-archlinux.org | Arch Linux - News: Removing python2 from the repositories [11:22] TR News This week we can see which "FOSS" or "Linux" sites are 'fakes'. They help Microsoft ATTACK GNU/Linux by boosting "WSL" (Windows). [11:23] TR News Now OPENLY and OFFICIALLY taking corporate money https://www.phoronix.com/news/Premium-2022-Autumn-Reminder [11:24] -TechrightsSocial/#boycottnovell-social-Reminder: The Phoronix Premium Autumn Sale Is On - Phoronix [11:30] *starstreak has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [11:40] TR News (NEW): Programming Leftovers http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/09/23/Programming_Leftovers.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/09/23/Programming_Leftovers.gmi [11:40] -TechrightsSocial/#boycottnovell-social-news.tuxmachines.org | Tux Machines Programming Leftovers [11:40] TR News (NEW): Mozilla Lobbying and Firefox 105 on POWER http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/09/23/Mozilla_Lobbying_and_Firefox_105_on_POWER.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/09/23/Mozilla_Lobbying_and_Firefox_105_on_POWER.gmi [11:40] -TechrightsSocial/#boycottnovell-social-news.tuxmachines.org | Tux Machines Mozilla Lobbying and Firefox 105 on POWER [11:40] TR News (NEW): Today's Leftovers http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/09/23/today_s_leftovers.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/09/23/today_s_leftovers.gmi [11:40] -TechrightsSocial/#boycottnovell-social-news.tuxmachines.org | Tux Machines today's leftovers [11:40] TR News (NEW): Free Software: PowerDNS Recursor, Kubernetes, and More http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/09/23/Free_Software_PowerDNS_Recursor_Kubernetes_and_More.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/09/23/Free_Software_PowerDNS_Recursor_Kubernetes_and_More.gmi [11:40] -TechrightsSocial/#boycottnovell-social-news.tuxmachines.org | Tux Machines Free Software: PowerDNS Recursor, Kubernetes, and More [11:42] TR News Links 23/09/2022: EuroBSDcon 2022 Ahead, PowerDNS Recursor 4.5.11, 4.6.4 and 4.7.3 Out | Techrights http://techrights.org/2022/09/23/eurobsdcon-2022/ | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2022/09/23/eurobsdcon-2022/ [11:42] -TechrightsSocial/#boycottnovell-social-techrights.org | Links 23/09/2022: EuroBSDcon 2022 Ahead, PowerDNS Recursor 4.5.11, 4.6.4 and 4.7.3 Out | Techrights ● Sep 23 [12:12] *u-amarsh04 has quit (Quit: Konversation terminated!) 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[15:03] TR News Orban running out of buddies https://telex.hu/english/2022/09/22/because-of-ukraine-the-polish-and-hungarian-governments-are-not-so-good-friends-anymore | Source: Telex (Hungary) [15:03] -TechrightsSocial/#boycottnovell-social-telex.hu | Telex: The Polish-Hungarian friendship is not what it used to be on account of Ukraine [15:03] TR News The broadband swindle https://www.techdirt.com/2022/09/22/cable-giant-charter-will-pay-1-1-billion-after-tech-murders-elderly-customer/ | Source: Techdirt [15:03] -TechrightsSocial/#boycottnovell-social-Cable Giant Charter Will Pay $1.1 Billion After Tech Murders Elderly Customer | Techdirt [15:05] TR News "Oh, Fifth Circuit Court of Appeals. Whatever will you do next?" https://www.techdirt.com/2022/09/22/5th-circuit-awards-immunity-to-cop-who-decided-a-suicidal-man-should-be-tased-while-he-had-a-noose-around-his-neck/ | Source: Techdirt [15:05] -TechrightsSocial/#boycottnovell-social-5th Circuit Awards Immunity To Cop Who Decided A Suicidal Man Should Be Tased While He Had A Noose Around His Neck | Techdirt [15:06] TR News Minneapolis https://www.techdirt.com/2022/09/22/new-data-from-the-bureau-of-prisons-indicates-bail-reform-wont-make-americans-less-safe/ | Source: Techdirt [15:06] -TechrightsSocial/#boycottnovell-social-New Data From The Bureau Of Prisons Indicates Bail Reform Wont Make Americans Less Safe | Techdirt [15:07] TR News "Utility data has historically provided a detailed picture of what occurs within a home." https://www.eff.org/press/releases/lawsuit-smud-and-sacramento-police-violate-state-law-and-utility-customers-privacy | Source: EFF [15:07] -TechrightsSocial/#boycottnovell-social-www.eff.org | Lawsuit: SMUD and Sacramento Police Violate State Law and Utility Customers Privacy by Sharing Data Without a Warrant | Electronic Frontier Foundation [15:07] TR News "The persecution of Julian Assange is a window into the collapse of the rule of law" https://scheerpost.com/2022/09/22/the-chris-hedges-report-julian-assanges-father-on-looming-extradition-and-imperative-of-mass-resistance/ | Source: Scheerpost [15:07] -TechrightsSocial/#boycottnovell-social-The Chris Hedges Report: Julian Assanges Father on Looming Extradition and Imperative of Mass Resistance scheerpost.com [15:08] TR News Caitlin Johnstone https://scheerpost.com/2022/09/22/caitlin-johnstone-americas-perverse-poverty-draft/ | Source: Scheerpost [15:08] -TechrightsSocial/#boycottnovell-social-Caitlin Johnstone: Americas Perverse Poverty Draft scheerpost.com [15:08] TR News Pentagon https://scheerpost.com/2022/09/22/the-pentagon-is-waging-war-on-planet-earth/ | Source: Scheerpost [15:08] -TechrightsSocial/#boycottnovell-social-The Pentagon Is Waging War on Planet Earth scheerpost.com [15:10] TR News The monarchy cannot rebut critics; it just crushes them https://truthout.org/articles/queens-funeral-in-uk-set-off-harsh-crackdowns-against-critics-of-monarchy/ | Source: TruthOut [15:10] -TechrightsSocial/#boycottnovell-social-truthout.org | Queens Funeral in UK Set Off Harsh Crackdowns Against Critics of Monarchy [15:11] TR News More unions https://truthout.org/articles/congressional-staffers-are-holding-their-first-ever-union-vote/ | Source: TruthOut [15:11] -TechrightsSocial/#boycottnovell-social-truthout.org | Congressional Staffers Are Holding Their First-Ever Union Vote [15:13] TR News "By declaring referenda in four Ukrainian regions and vowing to defend new Russian territory with all means necessary" https://scheerpost.com/2022/09/22/how-the-war-changed-overnight/ | Source: Scheerpost [15:13] -TechrightsSocial/#boycottnovell-social-How the Ukraine War Changed Overnight scheerpost.com [15:14] TR News Afghanistan https://scheerpost.com/2022/09/22/bidens-afghan-shell-game-prompts-media-shrugs-and-stenography/ | Source: Scheerpost [15:14] -TechrightsSocial/#boycottnovell-social-Bidens Afghan Shell Game Prompts Media Shrugs and Stenography scheerpost.com [15:15] TR News Pakistan https://scheerpost.com/2022/09/22/the-main-driver-behind-pakistans-floods-has-a-familiar-name/ | Source: Scheerpost [15:15] -TechrightsSocial/#boycottnovell-social-The Main Driver Behind Pakistans Floods Has a Familiar Name scheerpost.com [15:15] TR News "Marjorie Cohn writes about state government and right to abortion from constitutional protection." https://scheerpost.com/2022/09/22/states-need-constitutional-amendments-to-protect-abortion-from-right-wing-judges/ | Source: Scheerpost [15:15] -TechrightsSocial/#boycottnovell-social-States Need Constitutional Amendments to Protect Abortion From Right-Wing Judges scheerpost.com [15:16] TR News What's taking so long? https://truthout.org/articles/jan-6-committee-announces-its-next-and-possibly-final-public-hearing-date/ | Source: TruthOut [15:16] -TechrightsSocial/#boycottnovell-social-truthout.org | Jan. 6 Committee Announces Its Next and Possibly Final Public Hearing Date [15:16] TR News Oligarchs' system https://truthout.org/articles/manchins-big-oil-giveaway-deal-garners-opposition-from-both-sides-of-the-aisle/ | Source: TruthOut [15:16] -TechrightsSocial/#boycottnovell-social-truthout.org | Manchins Big Oil Giveaway Deal Garners Opposition From Both Sides of the Aisle [15:17] TR News The carbon follows the army https://truthout.org/articles/pentagon-spending-drains-the-national-budget-and-leaves-a-big-carbon-bootprint/ | Source: TruthOut [15:17] -TechrightsSocial/#boycottnovell-social-truthout.org | Pentagon Spending Drains the National Budget and Leaves a Big Carbon Bootprint [15:17] TR News Screwing workers https://www.commondreams.org/views/2022/09/22/lives-are-line-its-time-national-paid-leave-policy | Source: Common Dreams [15:17] -TechrightsSocial/#boycottnovell-social-www.commondreams.org | Opinion | Lives Are on the Line: It's Time for a National Paid Leave Policy | Vicky Badillo [15:17] TR News Tish James https://www.thenation.com/article/politics/tish-james-sues-trump-kids/ | Source: The Nation [15:18] -TechrightsSocial/#boycottnovell-social-www.thenation.com | Tish James Got the Goods on the Trump Family GriftNow What? | The Nation [15:18] TR News " two Trump appointees" https://www.commondreams.org/news/2022/09/22/siding-doj-appeals-court-rules-trump-judge-abused-discretion-halting-criminal-probe | Source: Common Dreams [15:18] -TechrightsSocial/#boycottnovell-social-www.commondreams.org | Siding With DOJ, Appeals Court Rules Trump Judge 'Abused' Discretion by Halting Criminal Probe [15:18] TR News "This resolution is very simple and straightforward" https://www.commondreams.org/news/2022/09/22/sanders-blasts-gop-opposing-resolution-warning-against-military-coup-brazil | Source: Common Dreams [15:18] -TechrightsSocial/#boycottnovell-social-www.commondreams.org | Sanders Blasts GOP for Opposing Resolution Warning Against Military Coup in Brazil [15:19] TR News Better just boycott Starbucks. They will get the message only if impacted financially. https://www.thenation.com/article/activism/unionizing-starbucks/ | Source: The Nation [15:19] -TechrightsSocial/#boycottnovell-social-www.thenation.com | Unionizing Starbucks | The Nation [15:19] TR News "92 percent of Italians say their top concern is rising energy prices." https://www.thenation.com/article/world/italy-election-meloni-far-right/ | Source: The Nation [15:19] -TechrightsSocial/#boycottnovell-social-www.thenation.com | Fascists, Neofascists, and Postfascists: Italys Unreal Election Debate | The Nation [15:20] TR News "You Strike So You Dont Quit" https://www.thenation.com/article/society/nurses-strikes-minnesota-michigan/ | Source: The Nation [15:20] -TechrightsSocial/#boycottnovell-social-www.thenation.com | You Strike So You Dont Quit: Across the Country, Nurses Are Fighting Overwork | The Nation [15:21] TR News Mississippi https://www.thenation.com/article/activism/water-infrastructure-interview/ | Source: The Nation [15:21] -TechrightsSocial/#boycottnovell-social-www.thenation.com | Holding Back the Tide of Water Privatization | The Nation [15:22] TR News The inflation https://www.thenation.com/article/society/america-sacrifice-zones-inflation/ | Source: The Nation [15:22] -TechrightsSocial/#boycottnovell-social-www.thenation.com | No, America Doesnt Actually Need Sacrifice Zones | The Nation [15:22] TR News Listen to this whistleblower https://thedissenter.org/military-whistleblower-pentagons-warrantless-purchase-internet-data/ | Source: The Dissenter [15:22] -TechrightsSocial/#boycottnovell-social-thedissenter.org | Whistleblower Objects To Pentagon Purchases Of Browsing Data [15:23] TR News San Luis Mariona https://www.thenation.com/article/culture/christopher-soto-diaries-terrorist/ | Source: The Nation [15:23] -TechrightsSocial/#boycottnovell-social-www.thenation.com | A Poet Confronts the Violent History of El Salvador | The Nation [15:24] TR News Would he live to see it? https://truthout.org/video/trumps-latest-legal-peril-threatens-to-bring-down-his-new-york-empire/ | Source: TruthOut [15:24] -TechrightsSocial/#boycottnovell-social-truthout.org | Trumps Latest Legal Peril Threatens to Bring Down His New York Empire [15:24] TR News And boycott starbucks to send a message of solidarity to starbucks slaves https://truthout.org/articles/unionized-boston-starbucks-workers-celebrate-win-after-64-day-strike/ | Source: TruthOut [15:24] -TechrightsSocial/#boycottnovell-social-truthout.org | Unionized Boston Starbucks Workers Celebrate Win After 64-Day Strike [15:25] TR News Chomsky on Russia https://truthout.org/articles/noam-chomsky-the-war-in-ukraine-has-entered-a-new-phase/ | Source: TruthOut [15:25] -TechrightsSocial/#boycottnovell-social-truthout.org | Noam Chomsky: The War in Ukraine Has Entered a New Phase [15:25] TR News Reckless and criminal https://truthout.org/articles/trump-claims-he-used-his-mind-to-declassify-documents-before-leaving-white-house/ | Source: TruthOut [15:25] -TechrightsSocial/#boycottnovell-social-truthout.org | Trump Claims He Used His Mind to Declassify Documents Before Leaving White House [15:25] TR News So-called 'democracy' https://truthout.org/articles/house-passes-bill-to-correct-flaws-in-certification-of-presidential-elections/ | Source: TruthOut [15:25] -TechrightsSocial/#boycottnovell-social-truthout.org | House Passes Bill to Correct Flaws in Certification of Presidential Elections [15:26] TR News "France was kept in the dark of both the AUKUS negotiations and the fact that their treasured, lucrative submarine contract would cease to exist after September." https://www.counterpunch.org/2022/09/22/i-do-not-think-i-know-scott-morrisons-submarine-deception/ | Source: Counter Punch [15:26] -TechrightsSocial/#boycottnovell-social-I Do Not Think I Know: Scott Morrisons Submarine Deception - CounterPunch.org [15:26] TR News China is Capitalist https://www.counterpunch.org/2022/09/22/china-is-capitalist/ | Source: Counter Punch [15:26] -TechrightsSocial/#boycottnovell-social-China is Capitalist - CounterPunch.org [15:27] TR News When an empire falls https://www.counterpunch.org/2022/09/22/what-do-americans-care-about-not-a-cold-war-with-russia-and-china/ | Source: Counter Punch [15:27] -TechrightsSocial/#boycottnovell-social-What Do Americans Care About? Not a Cold War With Russia and China - CounterPunch.org [15:27] TR News IAEA https://www.counterpunch.org/2022/09/22/active-today-or-radioactive-tomorrow/ | Source: Counter Punch [15:27] -TechrightsSocial/#boycottnovell-social-Active Today or Radioactive Tomorrow? - CounterPunch.org [15:28] TR News Wolves https://www.counterpunch.org/2022/09/22/a-deafening-silence-on-wolves/ | Source: Counter Punch [15:28] -TechrightsSocial/#boycottnovell-social-A Deafening Silence on Wolves - CounterPunch.org [15:33] TR News Tips for the bachelors degree? gemini://blog.schmidhuberj.de/2022/09/23/tips-for-bachelors-thesis/ [15:34] TR News "These digital or digitally-enabled cultures, like tildes, are no less real and no less important to our lives and the health of the future. They must be cared for." gemini://tilde.team/~tomasino/journal/20220923-roophloch.gmi [15:35] TR News "I am not a fan of politics, never have been. I don't like reading about it, hearing about it, seeing about it. Thats because people aren't interested in genuine heartfelt discussion and idealogical compromise, theyre interested in pointing fingers, playing with scapegoats and strawmen." gemini://tilde.team/~smokey/logs/2022-09-23-politics.gmi [15:36] TR News FHIOSTU Wordo: VAPID gemini://tilde.cafe/~spellbinding/gemlog/2022-09-23.gmi [15:37] TR News OpenHEYHI https://hackaday.com/2022/09/22/openai-hears-you-whisper/ | Source: Hackaday [15:37] -TechrightsSocial/#boycottnovell-social-OpenAI Hears You Whisper | Hackaday [15:39] TR News Better Scope Measurements https://hackaday.com/2022/09/22/better-scope-measurements/ | Source: Hackaday [15:39] -TechrightsSocial/#boycottnovell-social-Better Scope Measurements | Hackaday [15:39] TR News "He immediately thought of the murder of Fred Hampton in Chicago, expecting to be shot in cold blood." https://www.counterpunch.org/2022/09/22/dave-foreman-and-the-first-green-scare-case/ | Source: Counter Punch [15:39] -TechrightsSocial/#boycottnovell-social-Dave Foreman and the First Green Scare Case - CounterPunch.org [15:42] TR News "Water damage can quickly make even the nicest buildings unliveable." https://hackaday.com/2022/09/22/wireless-water-detector-hooks-up-to-home-assistant/ | Source: Hackaday [15:42] -TechrightsSocial/#boycottnovell-social-Wireless Water Detector Hooks Up To Home Assistant | Hackaday [15:43] TR News Manchin https://www.commondreams.org/news/2022/09/22/climate-leaders-arrested-outside-senate-during-protest-against-manchins-dirty-deal | Source: Common Dreams [15:43] -TechrightsSocial/#boycottnovell-social-www.commondreams.org | Climate Leaders Arrested Outside Senate During Protest Against Manchin's Dirty Deal [15:43] TR News Punishing the poor https://www.commondreams.org/news/2022/09/22/house-gop-agenda-signals-push-social-security-and-medicare-cuts | Source: Common Dreams [15:43] -TechrightsSocial/#boycottnovell-social-www.commondreams.org | House GOP Agenda Signals Push for Social Security and Medicare Cuts [15:44] TR News "Windfall taxes are utterly defensible as levies on unexpected pure rents that recipients did nothing to deserve" https://www.commondreams.org/views/2022/09/22/yes-windfall-taxes-big-oil-are-warranted-thats-not-all | Source: Common Dreams [15:44] -TechrightsSocial/#boycottnovell-social-www.commondreams.org | Opinion | Yes, Windfall Taxes on Big Oil Are WarrantedBut That's Not All | Yanis Varoufakis [15:45] TR News "U.S. military will start spending the more than $800 billion" https://www.commondreams.org/views/2022/09/22/war-spending-climate-emergency-grows-global-nightmare | Source: Common Dreams [15:45] -TechrightsSocial/#boycottnovell-social-www.commondreams.org | Opinion | War Spending Like This as the Climate Emergency Grows Is a Global Nightmare | Stan Cox [15:46] TR News "extreme smoke days" https://www.commondreams.org/news/2022/09/22/massive-surge-us-wildfire-smoke-chokes-air-quality-progress-tens-millions | Source: Common Dreams [15:46] -TechrightsSocial/#boycottnovell-social-www.commondreams.org | Massive Surge in US Wildfire Smoke Chokes Air Quality Progress for Tens of Millions ● Sep 23 [16:11] TR News Military https://www.commondreams.org/views/2022/09/22/military-american-youth-you-belong-me | Source: Common Dreams [16:11] -TechrightsSocial/#boycottnovell-social-www.commondreams.org | Opinion | The Military to American Youth: You Belong to Me | Robert C. Koehler [16:15] TR News On climate https://www.commondreams.org/news/2022/09/22/groups-demand-ouster-climate-denier-leading-world-bank | Source: Common Dreams [16:15] -TechrightsSocial/#boycottnovell-social-www.commondreams.org | Groups Demand Ouster of 'Climate Denier' Leading World Bank [16:16] TR News "Art installations arent always about static sculpture or pure aesthetics." https://hackaday.com/2022/09/22/robots-chase-down-balls-in-fun-outdoor-game/ | Source: Hackaday [16:16] -TechrightsSocial/#boycottnovell-social-Robots Chase Down Balls In Fun Outdoor Game | Hackaday [16:16] TR News "Revolutionary truth being that lies and illusions are essential to any war" https://www.counterpunch.org/2022/09/23/casus-belli-under-a-hidden-agenda-now-in-end-game-stage-illicitly-understood/ | Source: Counter Punch [16:16] -TechrightsSocial/#boycottnovell-social-Casus Belli Under A Hidden Agenda Now in 'End Game ' Stage Illicitly Understood - CounterPunch.org [16:17] TR News "Verra, which runs a carbon crediting standard used by hundreds of companies to offset their carbon dioxide emissions" https://www.desmog.com/2022/09/22/renewed-tensions-hit-drive-to-reform-opaque-trade-in-carbon-offsets/ | Source: DeSmog [16:17] -TechrightsSocial/#boycottnovell-social-Renewed Tensions Hit Drive to Reform Opaque Trade in Carbon Offsets - DeSmog [16:25] TR News "While we have a definite sweet spot in our hearts for analog radio" https://hackaday.com/2022/09/22/simple-internet-radio-transplant/ | Source: Hackaday [16:25] -TechrightsSocial/#boycottnovell-social-Simple Internet Radio Transplant | Hackaday [16:25] TR News Ohio https://www.commondreams.org/news/2022/09/22/ohio-court-filings-detail-dozens-patients-put-under-extreme-duress-abortion-ban | Source: Common Dreams [16:25] -TechrightsSocial/#boycottnovell-social-www.commondreams.org | Ohio Court Filings Detail Dozens of Patients Put Under 'Extreme Duress' by Abortion Ban [16:27] TR News The inflation is a residue of the long-term looting https://www.commondreams.org/news/2022/09/22/fed-rate-hikes-wont-tackle-corporate-profiteering-behind-inflation-experts-tell | Source: Common Dreams [16:27] -TechrightsSocial/#boycottnovell-social-www.commondreams.org | Fed Rate Hikes Won't Tackle the Corporate Profiteering Behind Inflation, Experts Tell Congress [16:28] TR News No diplomacy? https://www.commondreams.org/views/2022/09/22/putin-escalation-makes-diplomacy-measures-more-urgent | Source: Common Dreams [16:28] -TechrightsSocial/#boycottnovell-social-www.commondreams.org | Opinion | Putin Escalation Makes Diplomacy Measures More Urgent | Anatol Lieven [16:29] TR News "Last month, the residents of Allegheny County, PA were fighting to ban fracking in their parks" https://www.commondreams.org/views/2022/09/22/sneaky-ways-big-oil-misleads-public-money-and-power | Source: Common Dreams [16:29] -TechrightsSocial/#boycottnovell-social-www.commondreams.org | Opinion | The Sneaky Ways Big Oil Misleads the Public With Money and Power | Mia DiFelice [16:30] TR News Manchin https://www.commondreams.org/news/2022/09/22/more-merkley-leads-senate-demand-separate-vote-manchin-deal | Source: Common Dreams [16:30] -TechrightsSocial/#boycottnovell-social-www.commondreams.org | 'More of This!' Merkley Leads Senate Demand for Separate Vote on Manchin Deal [16:30] TR News Manchin https://www.commondreams.org/news/2022/09/22/find-courage-400-scientists-health-providers-implore-schumer-pelosi-ditch-manchin | Source: Common Dreams [16:30] -TechrightsSocial/#boycottnovell-social-www.commondreams.org | 'Find the Courage': 400+ Scientists, Health Providers Implore Schumer, Pelosi to Ditch Manchin Deal [16:34] TR News Zero https://www.commondreams.org/news/2022/09/22/zero-gop-senators-vote-curb-dark-moneys-stranglehold-democracy | Source: Common Dreams [16:34] -TechrightsSocial/#boycottnovell-social-www.commondreams.org | Zero GOP Senators Vote to Curb Dark Money's Stranglehold on Democracy [16:34] TR News "The true measure of engineering success or, at least, one of them is how long something remains in use." https://hackaday.com/2022/09/22/a-love-letter-to-small-design-teams-and-the-b-52/ | Source: Hackaday [16:34] -TechrightsSocial/#boycottnovell-social-A Love Letter To Small Design Teams, And The B-52 | Hackaday [16:35] TR News "[Debasish Dutta] has designed a few weather stations in the past, and this, thefourth version of the system" https://hackaday.com/2022/09/22/hackaday-prize-2022-solar-powered-lora-weather-station-for-the-masses/ | Source: Hackaday [16:35] -TechrightsSocial/#boycottnovell-social-Hackaday Prize 2022: Solar Powered LoRa Weather Station For The Masses | Hackaday ● Sep 23 [17:05] TR News Proprietary https://www.marketscreener.com/quote/stock/BIGCOMMERCE-HOLDINGS-INC-110417697/news/Meet-the-New-Release-of-ODBC-Driver-for-BigCommerce-with-macOS-and-Linux-Support-41842806/ [17:05] -TechrightsSocial/#boycottnovell-social-Meet the New Release of ODBC Driver for BigCommerce with macOS and Linux Support | MarketScreener [17:19] TR News It is proprietary, it is spyware, but then again so is this OS. What an awful trend... if people were to adopt it https://chromeunboxed.com/how-to-install-visual-studio-code-on-a-chromebook/ [17:19] -TechrightsSocial/#boycottnovell-social-chromeunboxed.com | How-to install Visual Studio Code on a Chromebook [17:27] TR News Chris Titus Tech boosting Microsoft Proprietary Prison GitHub. Still a Microsofter at heart. GitHub is an attack on Git and, by extension, on Free software. [17:30] TR News Chromecast with Google TV (HD) features Amlogic S805X2 CPU with AV1 video support https://www.cnx-software.com/2022/09/23/chromecast-with-google-tv-hd-amlogic-s805x2-cpu-av1-video/ [17:30] -TechrightsSocial/#boycottnovell-social-www.cnx-software.com | Chromecast with Google TV (HD) features Amlogic S805X2 CPU with AV1 video support - CNX Software [17:32] TR News Wayland still sucks. Even its principal pusher, ICBM, cannot make it work. https://marcin.juszkiewicz.com.pl/2022/09/19/is-wayland-really-a-future-of-desktop/ [17:32] -TechrightsSocial/#boycottnovell-social-marcin.juszkiewicz.com.pl | Is Wayland really a future ofdesktop? Marcin Juszkiewicz [17:32] TR News "All this talk about types, objects, and systems, got me to thinking, "what would it take to create a 100% backwards-compatible pure Perl proof-of-concept for optionally typable subroutine signatures". I mean really, how hard could it be?" http://blogs.perl.org/users/al_newkirk/2022/09/my-perl-weekly-challenge.html [17:32] -TechrightsSocial/#boycottnovell-social-My Perl Weekly Challenge | AWNCORP [blogs.perl.org] [17:33] TR News Chris Titus: "You are Using GitHub WRONG!" Reality: You are using GitHub, WHICH IS WRONG! [17:41] TR News The END is near for the Steam Deck... reservation queue. (Plus other Steam Deck news) - Invidious https://yewtu.be/watch?v=WKx5-SHvyLQ | Gemini address: gemini://auragem.space/youtube/video/WKx5-SHvyLQ [17:41] -TechrightsSocial/#boycottnovell-social-yewtu.be | The END is near for the Steam Deck... reservation queue. (Plus other Steam Deck news) - Invidious [17:43] TR News 69: EVGA Says No More To Nvidia - A New Player Enters The GPU Market - Hardware Addicts - TuxDigital https://tuxdigital.com/podcasts/hardware-addicts/ha-69/ Source: Tux Digital | Gemini address: gemini://gemi.dev/cgi-bin/waffle.cgi/view?https%3A//tuxdigital.com/podcasts/hardware-addicts/ha-69/ [17:43] -TechrightsSocial/#boycottnovell-social-69: EVGA Says No More To Nvidia & A New Player Enters The GPU Market - Hardware Addicts - TuxDigital [17:44] TR News "Alex is replacing his Chromecast and Google Nest Mini with an open-source solution, and why were all getting a little hyped about Matter." https://www.jupiterbroadcasting.com/show/self-hosted/80/ [17:44] -TechrightsSocial/#boycottnovell-social-www.jupiterbroadcasting.com | Solving Whole Home Audio | Jupiter Broadcasting [17:47] TR News Can reflections in eyeglasses actually leak info from Zoom calls? Here's a study into it https://www.theregister.com/2022/09/17/glasses_reflections_zoom/ [17:47] -TechrightsSocial/#boycottnovell-social-www.theregister.com | Lens reflections may betray your secrets in Zoom video calls The Register [17:47] TR News Private Eye: On the Limits of Textual Screen Peeking via Eyeglass Reflections in Video Conferencing https://arxiv.org/abs/2205.03971 Source: arXiv | Gemini address: gemini://gemi.dev/cgi-bin/waffle.cgi/view?https%3A//arxiv.org/abs/2205.03971 [17:47] -TechrightsSocial/#boycottnovell-social-arxiv.org | [2205.03971] Private Eye: On the Limits of Textual Screen Peeking via Eyeglass Reflections in Video Conferencing [17:50] TR News Kubernetes 101 for developers: Names, ports, YAML files, and more | Red Hat Developer https://developers.redhat.com/articles/2022/08/30/kubernetes-101-developers-names-ports-yaml-files-and-more#kubernetes_rolling_updates [17:50] -TechrightsSocial/#boycottnovell-social-developers.redhat.com | Kubernetes 101 for developers: Names, ports, YAML files, and more | Red Hat Developer [17:51] TR News Qt for Android Automotive 6.3.2 is released https://www.qt.io/blog/qt-for-android-automotive-6.3.2-is-released Source: Qt | Gemini address: gemini://gemi.dev/cgi-bin/waffle.cgi/view?https%3A//www.qt.io/blog/qt-for-android-automotive-6.3.2-is-released [17:51] -TechrightsSocial/#boycottnovell-social-www.qt.io | Qt for Android Automotive 6.3.2 is released [17:53] TR News Top 5 Best Call forwarding Apps for Android Devices in 2022 https://www.ubuntupit.com/best-call-forwarding-apps-for-android-devices/ [17:53] -TechrightsSocial/#boycottnovell-social-www.ubuntupit.com | Top 5 Best Call forwarding Apps for Android Devices in 2022 [17:55] TR News GNU/Linux bloggers who wish to promote GNU/Linux to Windows users should introduce them to VirtualBox, NOT WSL!!! WSL is actively and intentionally attacking GNU/Linux. [17:56] TR News (NEW): Today's HowTos http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/09/23/today_s_howtos.2.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/09/23/today_s_howtos.2.gmi [17:56] -TechrightsSocial/#boycottnovell-social-news.tuxmachines.org | Tux Machines today's howtos [17:56] TR News (NEW): PeerTube 4.3 Free Video Platform Is Out with New Functionalities http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/09/23/PeerTube_4_3_Free_Video_Platform_Is_Out_with_New_Functionalitie.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/09/23/PeerTube_4_3_Free_Video_Platform_Is_Out_with_New_Functionalitie.gmi [17:56] -TechrightsSocial/#boycottnovell-social-news.tuxmachines.org | Tux Machines PeerTube 4.3 Free Video Platform Is Out with New Functionalities [17:56] TR News "As promised in the previous edition of FOSS Weekly, we have created a crossword for you. This one is focused on various desktop environments and window managers." https://news.itsfoss.com/foss-weekly-22-35/ [17:56] -TechrightsSocial/#boycottnovell-social-news.itsfoss.com | FOSS Weekly #22.35: Linux Crossword, EuroLinux, GNOME 43, Files and Directories [17:58] TR News Fedora Community Blog: CPE Weekly Update Week 38 2022 https://communityblog.fedoraproject.org/cpe-weekly-update-week-38-2022/ [17:58] -TechrightsSocial/#boycottnovell-social-communityblog.fedoraproject.org | CPE Weekly Update - Week 38 2022 Fedora Community Blog [17:58] TR News Pipelines for cloud-native network functions (CNFs) Part 2: Pipelines for lifecycle management https://www.redhat.com/en/blog/pipelines-cloud-native-network-functions-cnfs-part-2-pipelines-lifecycle-management Source: Red Hat Official | Gemini address: gemini://gemi.dev/cgi-bin/waffle.cgi/view?https%3A//www.redhat.com/en/blog/pipelines-cloud-native-network-functions-cnfs-part-2-pipelines-lifecycle-management [17:58] -TechrightsSocial/#boycottnovell-social-www.redhat.com | Pipelines for cloud-native network functions (CNFs) Part 2: Pipelines for lifecycle management [17:59] TR News ICBM shilling clown computing as RoI... yeah, Africans selling their own to slavery was good "RoI" too https://enterprisersproject.com/article/2022/9/questions-ask-investing-new-technologies [17:59] -TechrightsSocial/#boycottnovell-social-enterprisersproject.com | 4 questions IT leaders should ask before investing in new technologies | The Enterprisers Project ● Sep 23 [18:01] TR News 600: Use NIR backend by default (!18753) Merge requests Mesa / mesa GitLab https://gitlab.freedesktop.org/mesa/mesa/-/merge_requests/18753?commit_id=6be7c2ef51ecdc97cb366f2d5b706629d33777d7 [18:01] -TechrightsSocial/#boycottnovell-social-gitlab.freedesktop.org | r600: Use NIR backend by default (!18753) Merge requests Mesa / mesa GitLab [18:08] TR News [PATCH v4 00/25] RSEQ node id and virtual cpu id extensions - Mathieu Desnoyers https://lore.kernel.org/lkml/20220922105941.237830-1-mathieu.desnoyers@efficios.com/ [18:08] -TechrightsSocial/#boycottnovell-social-lore.kernel.org | [PATCH v4 00/25] RSEQ node id and virtual cpu id extensions - Mathieu Desnoyers [18:09] TR News "It should be the last drm-misc-next PR for 6.1" https://lists.freedesktop.org/archives/dri-devel/2022-September/373293.html [18:09] -TechrightsSocial/#boycottnovell-social-lists.freedesktop.org | [PULL] drm-misc-next [18:09] TR News intel/nir/rt: ray query fixes (!17396) Merge requests Mesa / mesa GitLab https://gitlab.freedesktop.org/mesa/mesa/-/merge_requests/17396 [18:09] -TechrightsSocial/#boycottnovell-social-gitlab.freedesktop.org | intel/nir/rt: ray query fixes (!17396) Merge requests Mesa / mesa GitLab [18:10] TR News Phoronix marketing spam: "Solidigm kindly provided the 1TB and 2TB units as review samples for testing at Phoronix. They provided two of the 1GB drives, which will be interesting for a Linux RAID follow-up benchmarking article." https://www.phoronix.com/review/solidigm-p41-plus [18:10] -TechrightsSocial/#boycottnovell-social-Solidigm P41 Plus NVMe SSD Review - Phoronix [18:33] TR News "I have built EasyOS 4.4, for final testing, and tested it on some of my small collection of computers. Unfortunately, get a black screen on one of the computers." https://bkhome.org/news/202209/limine-412-black-screen.html [18:33] -TechrightsSocial/#boycottnovell-social-bkhome.org | Limine 4.1.2 black screen [18:34] TR News "With an abundance of hardware and software available, it has never been easier to create a working prototype. If a picture is worth a thousand words, then a prototype is worth a thousand meetings" https://ubuntu.com//blog/iot-project-lifecycle-efficient-prototyping-with-snaps-and-ubuntu-core-part-i [18:34] -TechrightsSocial/#boycottnovell-social-IoT Project Lifecycle: Efficient prototyping with Snaps and Ubuntu Core [Part I] | Ubuntu [18:34] TR News (NEW): #HowTo Fix: sudo Command Not Found Error http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/09/23/How_to_Fix_sudo_Command_Not_Found_Error.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/09/23/How_to_Fix_sudo_Command_Not_Found_Error.gmi [18:34] -TechrightsSocial/#boycottnovell-social-news.tuxmachines.org | Tux Machines How to Fix: sudo Command Not Found Error [18:37] TR News Lox365 extension: XLOOKUP (and more) for LibreOffice Calc https://blog.documentfoundation.org/blog/2022/09/23/lox365-extension-xlookup-and-more-for-libreoffice-calc/ [18:37] -TechrightsSocial/#boycottnovell-social-blog.documentfoundation.org | Lox365 extension: XLOOKUP (and more) for LibreOffice Calc - The Document Foundation Blog [18:38] TR News Google Analytics (GULAG malware) is illegal https://www.datatilsynet.dk/english/google-analytics/use-of-google-analytics-for-web-analytics [18:38] -TechrightsSocial/#boycottnovell-social-www.datatilsynet.dk | Press release: Use of Google Analytics for web analytics [18:39] TR News Open Web Search https://openwebsearch.eu/ [18:39] -TechrightsSocial/#boycottnovell-social-openwebsearch.eu | Open Web Search Promoting Europe's Independence in Web Search Funded by the Horizon Europe Programme [18:41] TR News "rms has led the free software movement for 40 years. his asset is his flaw. he is stubborn. extremely stubborn. absolutely unwilling to deviate, admit fault, change, or back down." https://j3s.sh/thought/drones-run-linux-free-software-isnt-enough.html [18:41] -TechrightsSocial/#boycottnovell-social-j3s.sh | jes post [18:43] TR News Ten challenges for Rust https://www.ncameron.org/blog/ten-challenges-for-rust/ Source: ncameron | Gemini address: gemini://gemi.dev/cgi-bin/waffle.cgi/view?https%3A//www.ncameron.org/blog/ten-challenges-for-rust/ [18:43] -TechrightsSocial/#boycottnovell-social-www.ncameron.org | Ten challenges for Rust [18:44] TR News Photography for geeks https://lcamtuf.coredump.cx/photo_basics/ Source: coredump | Gemini address: gemini://gemi.dev/cgi-bin/waffle.cgi/view?https%3A//lcamtuf.coredump.cx/photo_basics/ [18:44] -TechrightsSocial/#boycottnovell-social-lcamtuf.coredump.cx | Photography for geeks [18:45] TR News We Spoke With the Last Person Standing in the Floppy Disk Business https://eyeondesign.aiga.org/we-spoke-with-the-last-person-standing-in-the-floppy-disk-business/ Source: eyeondesign | Gemini address: gemini://gemi.dev/cgi-bin/waffle.cgi/view?https%3A//eyeondesign.aiga.org/we-spoke-with-the-last-person-standing-in-the-floppy-disk-business/ [18:45] -TechrightsSocial/#boycottnovell-social-eyeondesign.aiga.org | We Spoke With the Last Person Standing in the Floppy Disk Business Eye on Design [18:51] TR News KDE 5.26 beta, GNOME 43, and New Snap Store - Linux and Open Source News - Invidious https://yewtu.be/watch?v=51bxcMiMEj4 | Gemini address: gemini://auragem.space/youtube/video/51bxcMiMEj4 [18:51] -TechrightsSocial/#boycottnovell-social-yewtu.be | KDE 5.26 beta, GNOME 43, and New Snap Store - Linux and Open Source News - Invidious [18:52] TR News How to Build an Awesome Kubernetes Cluster using Proxmox Virtual Environment - Invidious https://yewtu.be/watch?v=U1VzcjCB_sY | Gemini address: gemini://auragem.space/youtube/video/U1VzcjCB_sY [18:52] -TechrightsSocial/#boycottnovell-social-yewtu.be | How to Build an Awesome Kubernetes Cluster using Proxmox Virtual Environment - Invidious [18:52] *DaemonFC (~daemonfc@58nejqa2kp9h2.irc) has joined #boycottnovell-social [18:52] DaemonFC So the landlord left a new lease under the door with a note. [18:53] DaemonFC Says rent is going up by $50 due to rising costs of water, gas, and property tax. [18:53] DaemonFC Not as bad as I thought it would be. He's listing them for $200 more than we pay. [18:53] DaemonFC So he didn't hit us with the $200 at least. :/ [18:54] TR News "Python 2 reached EOL in 2020, so Arch's devs reduced the apps that used it to the point it is now entirely removed from the distro's repos." https://linuxiac.com/arch-linux-removed-python-2-from-its-repositories/ [18:54] -TechrightsSocial/#boycottnovell-social-linuxiac.com | Python 2 Is No Longer Part of the Arch Linux Repositories [18:55] TR News Planned obsolescence in software, too. Bad design. https://lwn.net/Articles/909226/ [18:55] -TechrightsSocial/#boycottnovell-social-Arch Linux drops Python 2 [LWN.net] [18:56] TR News Fedora Community Blog: Fridays Fedora Facts: 2022-38 https://communityblog.fedoraproject.org/fridays-fedora-facts-2022-38/ "286 are awaiting a reviewer ... 778 packages fail to build from source" [18:56] -TechrightsSocial/#boycottnovell-social-communityblog.fedoraproject.org | Friday's Fedora Facts: 2022-38 Fedora Community Blog [18:57] TR News ICBM acts as if its goal is to kill ALL GNU/Linux distros, including its own, except RHEL. Then sell expensive 'support'. ● Sep 23 [19:00] TR News (NEW): Red Hat and Fedora Family http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/09/23/Red_Hat_and_Fedora_Family.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/09/23/Red_Hat_and_Fedora_Family.gmi [19:00] -TechrightsSocial/#boycottnovell-social-news.tuxmachines.org | Tux Machines Red Hat and Fedora Family [19:01] TR News (NEW): Videos: KDE 5.26, Steam Deck Waiting Line, Proxmox, and More http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/09/23/Videos_KDE_5_26_Steam_Deck_Waiting_Line_Proxmox_and_More.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/09/23/Videos_KDE_5_26_Steam_Deck_Waiting_Line_Proxmox_and_More.gmi [19:01] -TechrightsSocial/#boycottnovell-social-news.tuxmachines.org | Tux Machines Videos: KDE 5.26, Steam Deck Waiting Line, Proxmox, and More [19:03] TR News futex2 at Linux Plumbers Conference 2022 | tony is coding https://andrealmeid.com/post/2022-09-22-lpc22/ Source: Andr Almeida | Gemini address: gemini://gemi.dev/cgi-bin/waffle.cgi/view?https%3A//andrealmeid.com/post/2022-09-22-lpc22/ [19:03] -TechrightsSocial/#boycottnovell-social-andrealmeid.com | futex2 at Linux Plumbers Conference 2022 | tony is coding [19:07] TR News (NEW): Stupid Simple App to create Light & Dark Wallpapers in GNOME http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/09/23/Stupid_Simple_App_to_create_Light_Dark_Wallpapers_in_GNOME.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/09/23/Stupid_Simple_App_to_create_Light_Dark_Wallpapers_in_GNOME.gmi [19:07] -TechrightsSocial/#boycottnovell-social-news.tuxmachines.org | Tux Machines Stupid Simple App to create Light & Dark Wallpapers in GNOME [19:08] TR News Zen sand garden in a suitcase doubles as MIDI controller | Arduino Blog https://blog.arduino.cc/2022/09/23/zen-sand-garden-in-a-suitcase-doubles-as-midi-controller/ Source: Arduino | Gemini address: gemini://gemi.dev/cgi-bin/waffle.cgi/view?https%3A//blog.arduino.cc/2022/09/23/zen-sand-garden-in-a-suitcase-doubles-as-midi-controller/ [19:08] -TechrightsSocial/#boycottnovell-social-blog.arduino.cc | Zen sand garden in a suitcase doubles as MIDI controller | Arduino Blog [19:08] TR News (NEW): Marcin 'hrw' Juszkiewicz on Wayland and Andr Almeida on futex2 http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/09/23/Marcin_hrw_Juszkiewicz_on_Wayland_and_Andre_Almeida_on_futex2.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/09/23/Marcin_hrw_Juszkiewicz_on_Wayland_and_Andre_Almeida_on_futex2.gmi [19:08] -TechrightsSocial/#boycottnovell-social-news.tuxmachines.org | Tux Machines Marcin 'hrw' Juszkiewicz on Wayland and Andr Almeida on futex2 [19:08] TR News Lisp macros are magical https://blog.steve.fi/lisp_macros_are_magical.html Source: Steve Kemp | Gemini address: gemini://gemi.dev/cgi-bin/waffle.cgi/view?https%3A//blog.steve.fi/lisp_macros_are_magical.html [19:09] -TechrightsSocial/#boycottnovell-social-blog.steve.fi | Lisp macros are magical [19:09] TR News TPF launches merch store for Perl 5 | dean [blogs.perl.org] http://blogs.perl.org/users/dean/2022/09/tpf-launches-merch-store-for-perl-5.html Source: Perl | Gemini address: gemini://gemi.dev/cgi-bin/waffle.cgi/view?http%3A//blogs.perl.org/users/dean/2022/09/tpf-launches-merch-store-for-perl-5.html [19:09] -TechrightsSocial/#boycottnovell-social-TPF launches merch store for Perl 5 | dean [blogs.perl.org] [19:10] TR News Connection to Linux? ZERO! Why cover this? "Thanks to Rakoit for sending us the Arylic S50 Pro+ for todays audio test." https://www.cnx-software.com/2022/09/23/review-arylic-s50-pro-wireless-stereo-pre-amplifier/ [19:10] -TechrightsSocial/#boycottnovell-social-www.cnx-software.com | Review of Arylic S50 Pro+ wireless stereo pre-amplifier - CNX Software [19:14] TR News Proprietary spam/puff piece disguised as journalism https://containerjournal.com/features/d2iq-extends-reach-of-kubernetes-management-platform/ [19:14] -TechrightsSocial/#boycottnovell-social-containerjournal.com | D2iQ Extends Reach of Kubernetes Management Platform - Container Journal [19:15] TR News Microsoft moles in Linux kernel, destroying POSIX https://lore.kernel.org/lkml/91c21f32-cc6f-2c2e-ebf7-d1d738090aef@paragon-software.com/ [19:15] -TechrightsSocial/#boycottnovell-social-lore.kernel.org | [PATCH 0/2] fs/ntfs3: Add option "nocase" and refactoring - Konstantin Komarov [19:17] TR News (NEW): Mabox September 2022 ISO refresh http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/09/23/Mabox_September_2022_ISO_refresh.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/09/23/Mabox_September_2022_ISO_refresh.gmi [19:17] -TechrightsSocial/#boycottnovell-social-news.tuxmachines.org | Tux Machines Mabox September 2022 ISO refresh [19:17] TR News Valves Lawrence Yang and Pierre-Loup Griffais Interview with Japanese Media: "We dont consider the Nintendo Switch to be a competitor" - Boiling Steam https://boilingsteam.com/valves-lawrence-yang-and-pierre-loup-griffais-interview-with-japanese-media-we-dont-consider-the-nintendo-switch-to-be-a-competitor/ Source: Boiling Steam [19:17] -TechrightsSocial/#boycottnovell-social-boilingsteam.com | Valve's Lawrence Yang and Pierre-Loup Griffais' Interview with Japanese Media: "We don't consider the Nintendo Switch to be a competitor" - Boiling Steam [19:22] TR News Microsoft-funded 'analyst': "If we normalize projects baiting developers with an open source license to gain traction and switching to a non-open source license to monopolize the returns on that traction, then the logical next step for investors will be skipping that first step entirely." https://redmonk.com/sogrady/2022/09/23/dead-end/ [19:22] -TechrightsSocial/#boycottnovell-social-redmonk.com | The Dead End tecosystems [19:24] TR News LLVM prioritises proprietary garbage, it's also owned, controlled, hosted by MICROSOFT PROPRIETARY PRISON https://www.phoronix.com/news/LLVM-Apple-M2-Target [19:24] -TechrightsSocial/#boycottnovell-social-Apple M2 Support Added To Upstream LLVM Along With The A15, A16 - Phoronix [19:24] TR News "For example, we are working with Google to run Steam on Chrome OS. A prototype version of the software has already been released." https://boilingsteam.com/valves-lawrence-yang-and-pierre-loup-griffais-interview-with-japanese-media-we-dont-consider-the-nintendo-switch-to-be-a-competitor/ ● Sep 23 [20:16] *starstreak (~starstreak@muarsy2vret2q.irc) has joined #boycottnovell-social ● Sep 23 [21:50] TR News (NEW): Stable Kernels: Linux 5.19.11, Linux 5.15.70, and Linux 5.10.145 http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/09/23/Stable_Kernels_Linux_5_19_11_Linux_5_15_70_and_Linux_5_10_145.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/09/23/Stable_Kernels_Linux_5_19_11_Linux_5_15_70_and_Linux_5_10_145.gmi [21:50] -TechrightsSocial/#boycottnovell-social-news.tuxmachines.org | Tux Machines Stable Kernels: Linux 5.19.11, Linux 5.15.70, and Linux 5.10.145 [21:51] TR News (NEW): Make It One with Linux http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/09/23/Make_It_One_with_Linux.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/09/23/Make_It_One_with_Linux.gmi [21:51] -TechrightsSocial/#boycottnovell-social-news.tuxmachines.org | Tux Machines Make It One with Linux [21:51] TR News (NEW): Linux Commands Every Sysadmin Must Know http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/09/23/Linux_Commands_Every_Sysadmin_Must_Know.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/09/23/Linux_Commands_Every_Sysadmin_Must_Know.gmi [21:51] -TechrightsSocial/#boycottnovell-social-news.tuxmachines.org | Tux Machines Linux Commands Every Sysadmin Must Know [21:52] TR News (NEW): : Google Android Leftovers http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/09/23/Android_Leftovers.1.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/09/23/Android_Leftovers.1.gmi [21:52] -TechrightsSocial/#boycottnovell-social-news.tuxmachines.org | Tux Machines Android Leftovers [21:57] TR News Software Supply Chain Security Guidance for Developers https://www.esecurityplanet.com/applications/software-supply-chain-security-guidance-for-developers/ [21:57] -TechrightsSocial/#boycottnovell-social-Software Supply Chain Security Guidance for Developers | eSecurityPlanet [21:58] TR News A DIY non-contact digital tachometer for machinists | Arduino Blog https://blog.arduino.cc/2022/09/23/a-diy-non-contact-digital-tachometer-for-machinists/ Source: Arduino | Gemini address: gemini://gemi.dev/cgi-bin/waffle.cgi/view?https%3A//blog.arduino.cc/2022/09/23/a-diy-non-contact-digital-tachometer-for-machinists/ [21:58] -TechrightsSocial/#boycottnovell-social-blog.arduino.cc | A DIY non-contact digital tachometer for machinists | Arduino Blog [21:58] TR News IDEA: Public Imageboard In Gemini gemini://tilde.team/~smokey/logs/2022-09-23-picture-hosting.gmi ● Sep 23 [22:00] TR News NMKD, An Easy GUI for the Stable Diffusion AI Art Generator - Invidious https://yewtu.be/watch?v=8XLEV-FJOhM | Gemini address: gemini://auragem.space/youtube/video/8XLEV-FJOhM [22:00] -TechrightsSocial/#boycottnovell-social-yewtu.be | NMKD, An Easy GUI for the Stable Diffusion AI Art Generator - Invidious [22:07] TR News Shared With Me files in KIO GDrive https://eang.it/kio-gdrive-shared-with-me/ Source: | Gemini address: gemini://gemi.dev/cgi-bin/waffle.cgi/view?https%3A//eang.it/kio-gdrive-shared-with-me/ [22:07] -TechrightsSocial/#boycottnovell-social-eang.it | Shared With Me files in KIO GDrive [22:16] *psydroid2 has quit (connection closed) [22:18] TR News Record Excess Deaths in Europe https://schestowitz.com/Weblog/archives/2022/09/23/record-excess-deaths-in-europe/ [22:18] -TechrightsSocial/#boycottnovell-social-schestowitz.com Blog Archive Record Excess Deaths in Europe [22:28] TR News (NEW): Security Leftovers http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/09/23/Security_Leftovers.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/09/23/Security_Leftovers.gmi [22:28] -TechrightsSocial/#boycottnovell-social-news.tuxmachines.org | Tux Machines Security Leftovers [22:28] TR News (NEW): SparkyLinux "LXQt" 6.4 Quick overview http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/09/23/SparkyLinux_LXQt_6_4_Quick_overview.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/09/23/SparkyLinux_LXQt_6_4_Quick_overview.gmi [22:28] -TechrightsSocial/#boycottnovell-social-news.tuxmachines.org | Tux Machines SparkyLinux "LXQt" 6.4 Quick overview [22:33] TR News Debian Edu 11.5.0 has been released https://www.skolelinux.de/en/ [22:33] -TechrightsSocial/#boycottnovell-social-www.skolelinux.de | Home - Skolelinux Deutschland [22:34] TR News Debian vote underway https://gwolf.org/2022/09/6237415.html [22:34] -TechrightsSocial/#boycottnovell-social-gwolf.org | Gunnar Wolf 6237415 [22:34] TR News (NEW): This Week in GNOME: #62 Forty-three! http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/09/23/This_Week_in_GNOME_62_Forty_three.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/09/23/This_Week_in_GNOME_62_Forty_three.gmi [22:34] -TechrightsSocial/#boycottnovell-social-news.tuxmachines.org | Tux Machines This Week in GNOME: #62 Forty-three! [22:34] TR News (NEW): The Wine development release 7.18 is now available. http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/09/23/The_Wine_development_release_7_18_is_now_available.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/09/23/The_Wine_development_release_7_18_is_now_available.gmi [22:34] -TechrightsSocial/#boycottnovell-social-news.tuxmachines.org | Tux Machines The Wine development release 7.18 is now available. [22:34] *techrights_guest|84 (~0e61191e@54n9xgft8g6u2.irc) has joined #boycottnovell-social [22:46] TR News "This builds, or at least compiles, but fails at linkage because of the second problem" https://www.talospace.com/2022/09/firefox-105-on-power.html [22:46] -TechrightsSocial/#boycottnovell-social-www.talospace.com | Firefox 105 on POWER [22:57] TR News (NEW): Today's HowTos http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/09/23/today_s_howtos.3.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/09/23/today_s_howtos.3.gmi [22:57] -TechrightsSocial/#boycottnovell-social-news.tuxmachines.org | Tux Machines today's howtos ● Sep 23 [23:02] TR News (NEW): openSUSE Tumblewee and SUSE Rancher http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/09/23/openSUSE_Tumblewee_and_SUSE_Rancher.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/09/23/openSUSE_Tumblewee_and_SUSE_Rancher.gmi [23:02] -TechrightsSocial/#boycottnovell-social-news.tuxmachines.org | Tux Machines openSUSE Tumblewee and SUSE Rancher [23:06] TR News Giant squid corpse with half-eaten tentacles stuns tourists on New Zealand beach | Live Science https://www.livescience.com/giant-squid-new-zealand-beach Source: Live Science | Gemini address: gemini://gemi.dev/cgi-bin/waffle.cgi/view?https%3A//www.livescience.com/giant-squid-new-zealand-beach [23:06] -TechrightsSocial/#boycottnovell-social-www.livescience.com | Giant squid corpse with half-eaten tentacles stuns tourists on New Zealand beach | Live Science [23:07] TR News What causes it? Depression? Suicide? Low-quality jabs? Post-COVID-19 complications? Heat waves? https://schestowitz.com/Weblog/archives/2022/09/23/record-excess-deaths-in-europe/ [23:09] TR News Proprietary should not be needed for this https://www.prnewswire.com/news-releases/remotepc-offers-high-performance-and-affordable-remote-access-for-linux-machines-301632311.html [23:09] -TechrightsSocial/#boycottnovell-social-www.prnewswire.com | RemotePC Offers High Performance and Affordable Remote Access for Linux Machines [23:12] TR News There are reasons to be sceptical of this because C is already used widely, good developers use it, and it's not clear what developers stayed away from Linux kernel development just because Rust wasn't admissible https://www.therobotreport.com/linux-embracing-rust-will-boost-robotics-community/ [23:12] -TechrightsSocial/#boycottnovell-social-www.therobotreport.com | Linux embracing Rust will boost robotics community - The Robot Report [23:19] TR News "On the whole, it was disappointing, but it was an interesting challenge to try to orient myself to the sky when only about a fifth of it is visible through random gaps in the cloud cover. " gemini://gem.librehacker.com/gemlog/starlog/20220923-0.gmi [23:21] TR News "Wasn't sure what to call this style of entry, but it's mainly going to be for raving about pieces of media that I've recently enjoyed. Severance was initially suggested to me by my parents, and I was curious about the concept, but oh boy did it exceed my expectations!" gemini://themby.smol.pub/2022-09-23 [23:22] *techrights_guest|84 has quit (Quit: Connection closed) [23:23] TR News (NEW): Linux On The Laptop Works So Damn Well That Its Boring http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/09/23/Linux_On_The_Laptop_Works_So_Damn_Well_That_It_s_Boring.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/09/23/Linux_On_The_Laptop_Works_So_Damn_Well_That_It_s_Boring.gmi [23:23] -TechrightsSocial/#boycottnovell-social-news.tuxmachines.org | Tux Machines Linux On The Laptop Works So Damn Well That Its Boring [23:31] TR News (NEW): Programming Leftovers http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/09/23/Programming_Leftovers.1.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/09/23/Programming_Leftovers.1.gmi [23:32] -TechrightsSocial/#boycottnovell-social-news.tuxmachines.org | Tux Machines Programming Leftovers [23:32] TR News (NEW): Astro Pi (Raspberry Pi) and Arduino Projects http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/09/23/Astro_Pi_Raspberry_Pi_and_Arduino_Projects.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/09/23/Astro_Pi_Raspberry_Pi_and_Arduino_Projects.gmi [23:32] -TechrightsSocial/#boycottnovell-social-news.tuxmachines.org | Tux Machines Astro Pi (Raspberry Pi) and Arduino Projects [23:38] TR News (NEW): Free Software Leftovers http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/09/23/Free_Software_Leftovers.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/09/23/Free_Software_Leftovers.gmi [23:38] -TechrightsSocial/#boycottnovell-social-news.tuxmachines.org | Tux Machines Free Software Leftovers [23:38] TR News (NEW): Today's Leftovers http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/09/23/today_s_leftovers.1.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/09/23/today_s_leftovers.1.gmi [23:38] -TechrightsSocial/#boycottnovell-social-news.tuxmachines.org | Tux Machines today's leftovers [23:40] TR News Links 23/09/2022: PeerTube 4.3 and GNOME Report | Techrights http://techrights.org/2022/09/23/peertube-4-3/ | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2022/09/23/peertube-4-3/ [23:40] -TechrightsSocial/#boycottnovell-social-techrights.org | Links 23/09/2022: PeerTube 4.3 and GNOME Report | Techrights ● Sep 23 [00:13] frog this ukraine conflict, is extremely irritating, it's not plausible [00:13] frog followed the "UN security council" meeting live on TV [00:14] frog Lawrow wasn't at least willing to listen to them, and sent a secretary of his [00:14] frog gave a 5minute speech, and disappeared... [00:15] frog all day long: it's all your fault, evil russia, hunger, energy, war [00:15] MinceR "you betrayed the lawwwwwwwwwwwwwwwww!" [00:20] XRevan86 https://newsinfo.inquirer.net/1668752/un-showdown-looms-between-lavrov-west-over-atrocities-in-ukraine [00:20] -TechPolBot/#techpol- ( status 403 @ https://newsinfo.inquirer.net/1668752/un-showdown-looms-between-lavrov-west-over-atrocities-in-ukraine ) [00:23] XRevan86 https://reuters.com/world/un-showdown-looms-between-lavrov-west-over-atrocities-ukraine-2022-09-22/ [00:23] -TechPolBot/#techpol-Lavrov defends Russia at U.N. showdown rife with anger over Ukraine war | Reuters [00:23] XRevan86 There it is, that's the right link. [00:25] frog it is both, Russia, and Ukraine, who are major suppliers to the "international community": fertilizers, plant oil, wheat, maize [00:25] XRevan86 A question: would it be better to use neuters.de links similarly to nitter.it, or would that add too much expirability to the links? [00:26] frog Zelenskij too, again, gave a speech, almost shedding tears, "we are the international community" [00:27] frog they met in New York, headquarters i think... [00:35] frog some want to expell Russia, from this council, together with their stockpiles of nukes, that's the wisdom and level of intellect there [00:35] frog anyway, gn [00:36] XRevan86 They want to strip Russia from holding veto. [00:36] XRevan86 As it abused it extensively to block any initiative against Russia's interests. [00:43] XRevan86 https://english.pravda.ru/news/russia/154003-prigozhin_wagner/ This was said just a week ago. [00:43] -TechPolBot/#techpol-english.pravda.ru | Oligarch Prigozhin: It's either prisoners or your children [00:43] XRevan86 Putin (maybe): "why not both?" [00:44] MinceR :> [00:45] MinceR allegedly putler wants to toss 1 million bodies into the blender, so it's probably going to be both [00:45] MinceR or he'll lose his position first :> [00:47] XRevan86 It's quite possible (on a serious note) that Putin has seen the work the prisoners are doing in war, and he realised he needs people with at least a resemblance of discipline and respect of authority. [00:47] XRevan86 Cannon fodder is fascinating but not very effective. [00:48] MinceR he's using a time-honored russian strategy, the Horrifying Human Wave Attack [00:48] MinceR https://crzysdrs.net/dv/victim/453-i-think-the-issue-here-is-that-the-horrifying-human-wave-attack-is-simply-not-the-best-multiplayer-strategy/ [00:48] -TechPolBot/#techpol-crzysdrs.net | Daily Victim Archive [00:50] XRevan86 MinceR: I haven't decided if I believe the source's information on the one million, as for now they seem to actually be mobilising ~400000, and later sky's the limit, why stop at a million? [00:52] MinceR \_()_/ [00:52] XRevan86 But who knows, NGE is not going to fabricate a story, but still, a President Administration source is not something I can trust apriori. [00:53] MinceR is there a point where vladolf will back down? [00:53] MinceR if not, he'll just mobilize and mobilize until he runs out of slaves [00:53] MinceR unless he tries nuclear war [00:55] XRevan86 MinceR: Tactical nuke tops, and even that I doubt anyone including his subordinates will let him. [00:57] XRevan86 MinceR: "until he runs out of slaves" <- Just like he can't just shoot Ukraine's infrastructure indefinitely (long-range missiles are of limited supply and expensive), he can't train and clothe slaves indefinitely either. [00:57] XRevan86 So that's actually a more limited supply than ye would think. [00:58] XRevan86 Reality is a bitch, eh. [00:59] XRevan86 We're going to see if the logistics can even handle just these new ~350000 soldiers. ● Sep 23 [01:00] XRevan86 Maybe the Russian army is going to crumble under this new weight, that's possible. [01:01] MinceR he didn't train and clothe them before either, so that's fine with him [01:02] XRevan86 The potential is not limitless either way. [01:03] MinceR indeed [01:03] MinceR he has a finite number of slaves [01:08] *psydruid (~psydruid@jevhxkzmtrbww.irc) has left #techpol [01:10] *scientes (~scientes@i23ixbmtbveke.irc) has joined #techpol [01:10] *psydruid (~psydruid@jevhxkzmtrbww.irc) has joined #techpol [01:10] scientes well, I guess it doesn't make a difference as I am going through my IRC bouncer by necessity [01:10] scientes as techrights is censored in Russia [01:11] XRevan86 It is?.. [01:11] scientes at least the web irc servers [01:11] scientes anyways, I am going through Los Angelas ATM [01:11] scientes not techrights itsself [01:12] XRevan86 https://isitblockedinrussia.com/?host=meduza.io "No, meduza.io is probably not blocked in Russia. Yet." <- This resource was so useful until it broke :(. [01:12] -TechPolBot/#techpol-isitblockedinrussia.com | Is It Blocked In Russia? [01:13] scientes hmmmm [01:13] scientes guess you have to make your own [01:13] scientes not that difficult [01:13] XRevan86 https://reestr.rublacklist.net/en/?q=meduza.io There are alternatives. [01:13] -TechPolBot/#techpol-reestr.rublacklist.net | The registry of blocked websites [01:13] XRevan86 isitblockedinrussia.com just had a convinient domain and everything. [01:13] scientes what I find annoying is that RUssia also blocks some sites inside russia [01:13] scientes so i have to switch my VPN on and off [01:13] scientes like rzd.ru is russia-only [01:14] XRevan86 Welcome to the Digital Concentration Camp, I guess. [01:14] scientes anyways, didn't expect to get shamelessly robbed by a RZD employee like that [01:15] XRevan86 scientes: What'd they do? [01:15] scientes the price was like 5100 so i put 6000 through, and she managed to get the price down to 4910 and give me 100 back [01:16] scientes pretending that I only gave her 5000 [01:16] scientes it is a 3rd class ticket, and some beds are 5k and others are 7k, so she felt entitled to steal from a rich american half the difference [01:18] XRevan86 scientes: Cashiers don't really steal in Russia (unless at a market), but maybe it's a regional difference or she really did just want to rob you as an American. [01:18] psydruid you can always expect the unexpected [01:18] scientes this is moscow [01:18] scientes XRevan86, well exactly, I expected honest change because she is a cashier [01:18] XRevan86 scientes: Anyway, I see ye didn't follow my advice of not going anywhere near Russia. [01:19] scientes XRevan86, it is actually pretty exciting [01:19] MinceR XRevan86: you didn't follow it either :> [01:19] scientes Moscow has so many trains! [01:20] scientes Like I had this ticket, and I am like oh, I'll go to *the* train station [01:20] XRevan86 MinceR: %) [01:20] scientes so I went to one, wrong station, then another stations, wrong station, then another, and another, and another, and another---still wrong station [01:20] scientes !!!!!!!!!!!!!! [01:21] scientes > (unless at a market), [01:21] XRevan86 In Petersburg it would be the one near the Mayakovskaya subway station. [01:21] scientes so basically you are confirming what I am saying, and not really refuting it [01:22] XRevan86 scientes: I mean, anything can happen there. Although typically the market swindlers rig the weights. [01:23] scientes XRevan86, ahhh, they use "imperial" measurments :) [01:23] psydruid this reminds me of my trips from Poznan to Lviv and back [01:23] scientes charge you in lbs, with prices in metric lbs [01:24] scientes ok, so this time I need to o to taroslavski train station [01:24] scientes not sure if that was one I went to before [01:24] XRevan86 scientes: Don't know if this actually counts as a political discussion, I just wanted you to join this channel as well (: [01:27] scientes anyways, I have 2 days to find this station [01:29] XRevan86 scientes: Yaroslavski? [01:29] scientes yes [01:29] XRevan86 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Moscow_Yaroslavsky_railway_station [01:29] -TechPolBot/#techpol-en.wikipedia.org | Moscow Yaroslavsky railway station - Wikipedia [01:30] scientes oh i can get there on the 5 line [01:30] scientes the circle one [01:30] scientes which means I was probably there [01:31] scientes i am currently at that station at the end of the 1 line [01:31] scientes a new station, not an old soviet one [01:32] *psydruid (~psydruid@jevhxkzmtrbww.irc) has left #techpol [01:32] *psydruid (~psydruid@jevhxkzmtrbww.irc) has joined #techpol [01:35] scientes there was a refugee woman with 3 daughters in the park in my home town [01:38] XRevan86 https://meduza.io/en/feature/2022/09/23/traffic-jams-form-at-russia-s-border-checkpoints-as-potential-conscripts-scramble-to-escape "Traffic jams form at Russias border crossings as potential conscripts scramble to escape" [01:38] -TechPolBot/#techpol-meduza.io | NO TITLE [01:39] XRevan86 https://nitter.it/JuliaDavisNews/status/1573107219633438721 [01:40] -TechPolBot/#techpol-Julia Davis (@JuliaDavisNews): "There was palpable frustration in the Russian media that many in the West misunderstood what Putin saidhe was threatening the West, not Ukraine, with nuclear strikes. And so, droves of propagandists have been sent out to tell the West: push us into a corner and everybody dies."|nitter.it [01:41] XRevan86 https://t.me/ostorozhno_novosti/11074 ( https://nitter.it/InsiderEng/status/1573037261368737792 ) [01:41] -TechPolBot/#techpol-t.me | Telegram: Contact @ostorozhno_novosti [01:41] -TechPolBot/#techpol-The Insider (@InsiderEng): "Russia, Makhachkala. Men are being taken to war as their wives and mothers wail. Video by Ostorozhno Novosti"|nitter.it [01:41] MinceR i wonder when will that dumbass realize that he's been in a corner for months [01:42] XRevan86 MinceR: They're just trying to sell the idea to the masses that Russia can't lose. [01:44] CrystalMath XRevan86: russia should not lose, because it's right [01:44] XRevan86 I don't think that's going to work all that well against the feeling that Russia is losing. [01:44] CrystalMath the west is evil andwrong [01:44] CrystalMath *and wrong [01:44] CrystalMath losing is not the problem, but not giving your all for a truly righteous cause is [01:44] CrystalMath saving the donbass republics is a righteous cause [01:45] XRevan86 CrystalMath: My metrics are different from yours, so I can't possibly agree. [01:47] CrystalMath XRevan86: so are you the kind that wants kosovo reincorporated into serbia, or the kind that is a western imperialist hypocrite pig? [01:47] CrystalMath (i'm neither of those - i support the donbass republics) [01:47] CrystalMath there are 3 kinds of people [01:48] XRevan86 September 10th: https://t.me/grey_zone/14954 [01:48] -TechPolBot/#techpol-t.me | Telegram: Contact @grey_zone [01:48] XRevan86 > While it was necessary to hit bridges, railway hubs, and LDPE, which had to have been previously opened by intelligence, we reported every day with missiles on Kharkiv. [01:48] XRevan86 > Kalibrs, Iskanders and Tochka-U's flew somewhere to the side, in the morning with a stroke of a pen 200 enemy units were destroyed, believing that the enemy was there only because someone photographed against the background of this house in Kharkiv in a military uniform, and it is not even clear when. [01:48] scientes jI've got to get my VPN set up better on my laptop [01:48] XRevan86 Reminder that a PMC Wagner channel said that. [01:48] scientes works well on android [01:48] *scientes didn't expect tor to be blocked [01:48] scientes it is just a software incompatibility problem [01:49] XRevan86 CrystalMath: I am the kind that is okay with the status quo as long as no more blood is spilled. [01:49] CrystalMath XRevan86: so which kind are you? [01:49] scientes Network Manager and Connman--neither are really setup for wireguard, except as an actual VPN [01:49] scientes not for tunneling your whole internet [01:49] CrystalMath XRevan86: okay but then you don't recognize kosovo per se? [01:49] scientes especially when you have to deal with captive portals [01:49] scientes however, my 4G card does work here [01:49] MinceR CrystalMath: which state is kosovo supposed to annex itself to? [01:49] CrystalMath MinceR: albania [01:49] scientes although only at 64kbps for now---I think if i plug it into a phone and back it will work faster [01:50] MinceR CrystalMath: you don't have citations on that, do you? [01:50] scientes XRevan86, what is with the +8 numbers? [01:50] XRevan86 scientes: They're not +8, they're just 8. [01:50] scientes why is russia so special that they use two country codes? [01:50] CrystalMath MinceR: you either support territorial integrity or you don't [01:50] scientes XRevan86, but moscow is 925? [01:50] CrystalMath MinceR: if you make it selective, you're an imperialist pig [01:50] CrystalMath because then someone has to select [01:51] CrystalMath and who's that going to be? [01:51] scientes you mean it is like +1 800 XRevan86 ? [01:51] scientes toll free [01:51] XRevan86 scientes: No, 8 is the legacy code for reaching the intercity telephone numbers. [01:52] XRevan86 from the USSR [01:52] XRevan86 So it can be used instead of the proper international telephone code for Russia, which is +7 [01:53] CrystalMath https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dc2tJqnkLLA [01:53] -TechPolBot/#techpol-@Invidious: https://y.com.sb/watch?v=dc2tJqnkLLA [01:53] -TechPolBot/#techpol--> y.com.sb | Back In The U.S.S.R - Invidious [01:54] scientes XRevan86, when AT&T set Russia as +7 they were making a political statement [01:54] scientes XRevan86, as Yugoslavia is (and still is!) +44 [01:55] CrystalMath serbia is +387 [01:55] CrystalMath err [01:55] XRevan86 scientes: So if ye see a number like 8 (921) 123-45-67, it means +7 (921) 123-45-67 [01:55] CrystalMath +381 [01:55] CrystalMath +44 is poland, no? [01:55] scientes +44 is yugoslavia [01:55] scientes and is still in use [01:55] scientes +1 is usa and canada [01:56] XRevan86 scientes: +44 is the UK [01:56] XRevan86 +38 was Yugoslavia [01:56] CrystalMath right, poland is +48 [01:57] CrystalMath +44 is the UK [01:57] CrystalMath +380 is ukraine [01:58] CrystalMath and +387 is bosnia [01:59] scientes right, poland is +48 ● Sep 23 [02:00] scientes CrystalMath, you realize that is another Koran verse [02:00] scientes they got smart at Bell Labs in New Jersey [02:00] scientes and interestingly this technology was good enough they got inside USSR with it [02:01] scientes there is a great book about that place [02:01] scientes and everybody left there was incorporated into Google, and was the team being the Go-language [02:01] CrystalMath a quran verse? [02:01] scientes Koran is fine [02:01] CrystalMath okay but what verse? [02:01] scientes "Qur'an" is just stupid over-transliterization [02:02] scientes CrystalMath, 44 and 48 [02:02] scientes also also 7, as I was saying [02:02] scientes although I noticed for FIFA2020 they got a little smart with Qa_tar [02:02] scientes to help people get it right [02:02] scientes without over transliterizing it [02:03] CrystalMath oh gosh, i can imagine americans pronouncing it like "cater" [02:03] scientes CrystalMath, and they do! [02:03] scientes also, this first sound is not in English [02:03] *DaemonFC (~daemonfc@mztzs6dkpajw6.irc) has joined #techpol [02:03] scientes _khat_ [02:04] scientes (only then might they care...drugs!) [02:05] CrystalMath "Indeed, We revealed the Torah, containing guidance and light, by which the prophets, who submitted themselves to Allah, made judgments for Jews. So too did the rabbis and scholars judge according to Allahs Book, with which they were entrusted and of which they were made keepers. So do not fear the people; fear Me! Nor trade my revelations for a fleeting gain. And those who do not judge by what [02:05] CrystalMath Allah has revealed are truly the disbelievers." [02:05] CrystalMath this is 5:44 [02:06] CrystalMath surah al-maidah [02:06] scientes CrystalMath, no, chapter, not verse [02:06] scientes that is chapter 5 [02:06] scientes +7 +44 and +48 are chapters [02:07] scientes but I suspect you are just being a smart ass [02:08] CrystalMath ah, i see [02:08] scientes I guess ZNC will save my scrollback now that I have joined these channels [02:08] scientes my battery will die, see you later [02:09] CrystalMath see you [02:18] MinceR 23 025053 < CrystalMath> MinceR: if you make it selective, you're an imperialist pig [02:18] MinceR you're full of shit [02:18] MinceR as usual [02:28] CrystalMath selective application of the law is the worst form of lawlessness [02:29] CrystalMath it *cannot* be selective, i respect all opinions, apart from the one that says "it should be whatever i feel like at the moment" [02:29] CrystalMath that's true tyranny [02:30] XRevan86 Did somebody say "Russia"? [02:30] XRevan86 "selective application of the law is the worst form of lawlessness" <- There it is, yea, I knew I saw it. [02:32] psydruid would be a good thing for Russia to be carved up into pieces and the individual parts to join other countries or become independent countries? [02:32] CrystalMath psydruid: no, because that would delay the formation of a proper multipolar world order [02:32] psydruid would that make people both in and outside Russia happy? [02:32] CrystalMath it would also shift things in a bad direction regardingeurope [02:32] CrystalMath *regarding europe [02:33] psydruid CrystalMath, I'm just trying to see what the endgame is in this scenario [02:33] CrystalMath even just russia's failure to complete the special operation would have the consequence of severely limiting the possibility of peaceful resistance to european unification [02:33] XRevan86 psydruid: No, that would destabilise the whole region further for decades to come. [02:33] CrystalMath which, of course, means we would need to form a violent resistance to european unification [02:34] psydruid would it* [02:34] CrystalMath which is not what i want [02:35] psydruid is European unification an option? what does European unification even mean? [02:37] CrystalMath that is the end goal of undermining the sovereignity of european countries, and the will of its people [02:37] CrystalMath the formation of a tyrannical federal government, mirroring the one in the US [02:37] psydruid so we are at an impasse now and neither the dissolution of Russia nor European unification is desired [02:38] XRevan86 Installing a puppet as the head of Ukraine in a violent take-over is what we call respecting the sovereignity of a European country. [02:38] psydruid what is going to happen next? [02:38] MinceR apparently only CrystalMath's beloved is allowed to run a federal government [02:38] CrystalMath XRevan86: that is what they say [02:38] MinceR but he also gets to violently annex other countries into it [02:38] MinceR must be nice. [02:38] CrystalMath XRevan86: of course we are talking about euromaidan? [02:38] CrystalMath XRevan86: obviously i don't agree with it [02:38] XRevan86 CrystalMath: Of course I am talking about February 2022. [02:39] CrystalMath ah, so there's a bit of a misunderstanding [02:39] CrystalMath because i could sworn you were talking about euromaidan [02:39] CrystalMath *could've [02:39] CrystalMath "Installing a puppet as the head of Ukraine in a violent take-over is what we call respecting the sovereignity of a European country." - this is euromaidan without a doubt [02:39] MinceR keep saying that and you'll believe it too! [02:39] psydruid Glory to the Ukrainian Republic of Puppet Regimes [02:40] XRevan86 CrystalMath: Who's the puppet in that case? [02:40] CrystalMath XRevan86: poroshenko [02:40] CrystalMath the violence was burning people alive in odessa [02:40] CrystalMath and obama's hand in all of that is the violation of sovereignity [02:40] CrystalMath obama and victoria nuland [02:40] XRevan86 CrystalMath: That salty guy who's left with nothing right now? The ultimate puppet. [02:41] scientes Cool, worked! [02:41] CrystalMath XRevan86: he was swapped out with Zelensky [02:41] CrystalMath and i did a check, there was nobody in between [02:41] scientes psydruid: wht does it mean to you? [02:41] CrystalMath it was Yanukovich -> Poroshenko -> Zelensky [02:41] XRevan86 CrystalMath: There was one person before Poroshenko. [02:41] CrystalMath XRevan86: not according to wikipedia [02:41] XRevan86 Acting President Turchak [02:41] scientes Psydruid, i thought the puppet was putin? [02:42] XRevan86 Turchinov [02:43] psydruid sciences, that could very well be the case, but who is the master of puppets then? [02:43] XRevan86 CrystalMath: When Yanukovich fled Ukraine, the seat of the president was vacant, and Turchinov was installed as acting president before the elections. [02:43] scientes Psydruid , pinnochio [02:44] CrystalMath XRevan86: he fled because a minority mob of people who didn't vote for him wanted to kill him [02:44] XRevan86 CrystalMath: "he was swapped out with Zelensky" <- Ye used the passive voice here. Who did the swap out? [02:44] CrystalMath XRevan86: the american deep state [02:44] XRevan86 CrystalMath: There are a lot more people who want to kill Putin right now. [02:44] CrystalMath russia is bigger [02:44] XRevan86 CrystalMath: I see, an invisible hand of invisibility. [02:45] psydruid scientes, I have no idea what European unification means. Starbucks, McDonald's and Coca Cola on every corner of every street? [02:45] scientes Crystalmath, how deep of you! Is there any water in that hole? [02:45] CrystalMath psydruid: no, imagine the tyranny of the european parliament now but tenfold [02:45] CrystalMath crazy SJW laws [02:45] CrystalMath feminist garbage spewed everywhere [02:45] CrystalMath LGBT propaganda [02:46] CrystalMath that's what it would look like, i mean that is what it looks like now [02:46] scientes Psydruid, thats wht half of the US looks like. Chase manhatten on every block of manhatten because of overprices realestate which is being propped up with printing toilet paper. [02:46] CrystalMath but it would be worse, and we could not have an Orbn or Duda to put a halt to it [02:46] CrystalMath that's not even the worst of it, the worst of it is the climate agenda [02:46] scientes Thankfully I escaped in time. [02:46] CrystalMath and taking away people's property [02:47] scientes I planned on kissing the ground, butthat didnt exactly happen. [02:47] CrystalMath if russia loses, then people will fight against it but with terrorist acts probably, because all elections will simply be overthrown by fake revolutions as in ukraine [02:47] XRevan86 MinceR: Why is it always conspiratorial with these people? [02:47] scientes Butveet excitng to see Moscow, for all [rail]roads lead to Moscow. [02:48] CrystalMath it = european unification [02:48] CrystalMath if russia loses, then people will fight against [european unification] but with terrorist acts probably, because all elections will simply be overthrown by fake revolutions as in ukraine [02:48] scientes CrystalMath, and is UK part of europe? [02:48] CrystalMath and people who are against this horrible agenda but don't want to fight will flee europe [02:48] XRevan86 CrystalMath: Maybe don't kill protestors and flee the country? [02:48] scientes I am just going to block you and your noise. [02:49] CrystalMath scientes: who knows [02:49] CrystalMath XRevan86: the protesters will then kill you [02:49] XRevan86 CrystalMath: Lukashenko survived backlash from imprisoning his opponents and faking the election. [02:49] CrystalMath XRevan86: for any attempt to stop the evil agenda [02:49] XRevan86 Is it because 10 million Belarus' is bigger than 40 million Ukraine? [02:49] scientes Ignore: unknown command [02:49] scientes Lame [02:50] CrystalMath XRevan86: no, it's better in a smaller country for this scenario, no? because if you have a losing 40%, that 40% will be smaller and won't be able to violently overthrow [02:51] CrystalMath like suppose you have a place where 60% dominates over the 40%, it's an ugly scenario, but if the country is large enough, the 40% could be militant enough to take things over by force [02:51] XRevan86 CrystalMath: Can ye tell me what secret weapon they used to overthrow? [02:51] CrystalMath yeah, gathering in one place with pitchforks [02:51] XRevan86 I want to know, could be useful. [02:51] scientes I saw Ramadon Krasnodar on the TV in Krasnodar, but TV in Russia is very different from what they project outside russia. [02:51] XRevan86 CrystalMath: 1. gather with pitchforks on a square. 2. ??? 3. PROFIT [02:51] scientes As I say Hello to lenin in the park. [02:52] XRevan86 scientes: That's why I share Russian Media Monitor, it's a glimpse into abyss from outside. [02:52] scientes (Actually Georga is woorse, with a stupid Polish statue in Batumi Noam Chomsky ordered put up, bcaue he enves Adolf Hiter....) [02:53] CrystalMath my mom watches russian TV all the time [02:53] CrystalMath she uses "smotrim" nowadays to see it [02:53] scientes Russia K is good [02:54] XRevan86 scientes: Russia Culture is good? Eh. [02:54] scientes But there still is that clear contrast between the old Soviet state and the new nationalist putin state. [02:54] psydruid CrystalMath, in Russian or dubbed/subtitled in Serbian? [02:54] scientes Xrevan got to see some old Soviet movies tht were great on there. [02:54] CrystalMath psydruid: in russian [02:54] XRevan86 psydruid: smotrim.ru wouldn't be dubbed/subtitled. [02:54] CrystalMath XRevan86: so does she get russia news or outside-russia news? [02:54] scientes Like one abiut a boys camp with goats, and anither anout homosexuality. [02:55] XRevan86 CrystalMath: Inside Russia news of course. [02:55] CrystalMath i see [02:55] psydruid CrystalMath, do you understand Russian as well as she does? [02:55] CrystalMath not even close [02:55] scientes Xrevan86, but it is at least as bad as US state news. [02:56] psydruid let me see if smotrim.ru is blocked here [02:56] scientes I found some kopec. [02:57] scientes Not sure what to do with them. [02:57] XRevan86 CrystalMath: Julia Davis mostly posts translations of juicy bits from the Russian talk shows like "60 minutes". [02:59] scientes Xrevan86 geeze i thought they were joking whe i read aout those on meduza [02:59] scientes Why does anyone want 5 shows that hve the exact same hawk position. [02:59] XRevan86 scientes: The perfect thing for the CrystalMath's mum. ● Sep 23 [03:00] scientes Xrevan86 US propoganda got much more sophisticsted a long time ago [03:01] scientes Like they talk about health care for years, as if itis always right around the corner [03:01] XRevan86 scientes: Putin's promises are exactly like that. [03:01] scientes While At the same time i learned i am on the "No government ID list" [03:02] XRevan86 scientes: What does that mean? [03:03] scientes Xrevan86 it means that the internet fals exactly when I am talking to the man aboutgetting an id, after he pulls up my fascist marker. [03:03] scientes They have had a war with the Washington Washington Legislature about this, so I know i am not the onlyone. [03:04] scientes Xrevan86 tgis started with Bill Clinton---taking awa peoples drvers licenses for poltica reasons. [03:04] scientes And Dmitry Orlov is totally aware of, and showed up in Bad Wolf on RTD. [03:05] XRevan86 In Russia it's just an internal passport which is mandatory. [03:05] scientes The replacement refugee, after i took the time to show that Edward Snowde was a liar. [03:06] scientes Xrevan86 the US empire stole my internal ID in Tbilisi so that they could persecute me after forcing me to return to US. [03:06] XRevan86 scientes: Is there a criminal case open on you? [03:06] scientes No, and it doesn't doesn't that way here. [03:07] scientes *in USA [03:07] scientes But I have been in US prison for no crime whatsoever. [03:07] CrystalMath XRevan86: my mom knows russian really well [03:07] CrystalMath oh, you were responding to scientes [03:07] CrystalMath nevermind [03:07] scientes THAT is how US works. [03:07] scientes If they get paid, there is no law. [03:08] XRevan86 scientes: "Dmitry Orlov" <- Are ye still following that cunt? [03:09] CrystalMath Snowden did not lie [03:09] scientes Sort of. He is also an advisor to Putin and RT. [03:10] scientes Xrevan86 I don't read Orlov's blog, if tha is what you are asking, but he remains a friend. He lives in Peter. [03:11] XRevan86 scientes: Ye know him personally? [03:11] scientes I've been in communication with him for over a decade. [03:11] CrystalMath i know about ClubOrlov [03:11] XRevan86 scientes: Don't tell him about me, I don't want to die %) [03:11] CrystalMath it was my source of cool anti-lockdown quips [03:11] psydruid CrystalMath, [03:12] scientes And read 2 of his books [03:12] CrystalMath psydruid: because i never learned russian [03:12] CrystalMath i mean i did a little this year, by listening to it all the time [03:12] CrystalMath i think i understand it better than before 2022 [03:12] scientes Xrevan86 but as I as saying, he became not only a supporter of putin after being a doubter 10 years ago, to being an advisor to Putin. [03:13] CrystalMath https://cluborlov.blogspot.com/ [03:13] -TechPolBot/#techpol-cluborlov.blogspot.com | ClubOrlov [03:13] psydruid I think my understanding of it has also improved this year [03:13] CrystalMath is this the one? [03:14] XRevan86 CrystalMath: Yes. [03:14] CrystalMath XRevan86: okay, he's a cool guy then [03:15] XRevan86 CrystalMath: He's a liar, so yes, perfect for you. [03:15] scientes Specifically, he worked in high energy physics for the US government until the collapse of the soviet union mde the US uninterested. [03:15] CrystalMath XRevan86: what does he lie about? [03:15] scientes So he is an advisor on US culture. [03:15] psydruid before I got covid for the second time earlier this year I was on a roll doing a lesson of Russian, Ukrainian and Polish a day, hoping to finish the courses in a month or two [03:15] CrystalMath XRevan86: i was actually worried about visiting his new page because i feared that he might be pro-ukraine :P [03:16] CrystalMath had no idea who that really was [03:16] CrystalMath the blog is now at https://cluborlov.wordpress.com/ [03:16] -TechPolBot/#techpol-cluborlov.wordpress.com | ClubOrlov | I d e a s t o b l o w y o u r m i n d [03:16] CrystalMath and i will read up starting from 2022 [03:16] XRevan86 CrystalMath: I know ye value alignment more than anything. [03:16] psydruid that didn't happen, but I hope I can still finish them by the end of the year [03:16] scientes Xrevan86 Dmitry orlov came to the US under a US-USSR official exchange program, and he is from St Petersburg of USSR originally. [03:17] scientes He also has a son. [03:19] XRevan86 CrystalMath: Unfortunately, I can't access full posts like https://cluborlov.wordpress.com/2022/04/08/ukraine-just-the-facts/ as they as on Boosty (Liberapay-like service). But from the tone I can tell he's one of the people who ignore things like this: https://nytimes.com/2022/05/19/world/europe/russia-bucha-ukraine-executions.html [03:19] -TechPolBot/#techpol-cluborlov.wordpress.com | Ukraine: just the facts | ClubOrlov [03:19] -TechPolBot/#techpol-www.nytimes.com | New Evidence Shows How Russian Soldiers Executed Men in Bucha - The New York Times [03:19] XRevan86 I'm 100% certain of that. [03:19] scientes Xrevan86, except that NY Times often has lies targeted directly to me. [03:20] XRevan86 scientes: I don't care about the publisher whatsoever. [03:20] scientes And NYTimes praises genocide against Canadian first nations [03:20] XRevan86 It's video footage, that's hard facts. [03:20] scientes Xrevan86, NY TIMES is the official paper of the uS empire. [03:21] XRevan86 scientes: It's impossible for the Russian soldiers to lead a line of unarmed people to a place where they will be shot dead (there are photographs of their corpses), because Konashenkov said that the Russian army left Bucha all fine and dandy. [03:22] XRevan86 And yet, here we are. [03:22] scientes Yes, it is just that the US empire should solve its own problems first, as it has many of them. [03:23] XRevan86 scientes: They obtained the footage as their exclusive, so nothing I can do about that. [03:23] scientes Including the disdain it's state feels for its own people, such as the 9/11/2011 inside job. [03:23] scientes Which even the Prime Minister brags about. [03:23] scientes Mr. Biden. [03:24] XRevan86 Ye may notice that a lot of data that CIT uses comes from absolutely vile people. When authenticity of the data is irrefutable, it becomes it's own thing. [03:25] XRevan86 https://meduza.io/en/feature/2022/04/07/meduza-publishes-new-footage-evidencing-civilian-murders-in-bucha-during-russian-occupation I should also remind that this exists. [03:25] -TechPolBot/#techpol-meduza.io | NO TITLE [03:26] XRevan86 We're 5 months in and all Russia can say to address this is "NO U". [03:26] scientes It could come from the US deep state. [03:27] scientes As it is satellite footage. [03:27] XRevan86 scientes: Ye are confusing the footage. [03:27] XRevan86 This is *drone* footage. [03:27] scientes But the crimes are crims. [03:27] scientes Oh, what I read said satellite. [03:27] XRevan86 The satellite footage is more known even though it's worse. [03:28] XRevan86 The drone footage is easier to verify as authentic and easier to timestamp. [03:28] scientes That power station was bombed shortly after I met those refugee girls. [03:28] XRevan86 And because the raw footage is also published, one can look around in the high-resolution shots. [03:29] scientes But it don't make no difference to a mad-man playing with his toy-soldiers, who never die. [03:29] XRevan86 scientes: Naturally, the response to the allegations is "NO U". [03:30] scientes Who finds this footage SEXY: https://collateralmurder.wikileaks.org/ [03:30] -TechPolBot/#techpol-collateralmurder.wikileaks.org | Collateral Murder [03:30] XRevan86 But no one has concrete proof even now, so here we are. Russia could have proof but it chooses not to defend itself with anything but words. Completely not suspicious. [03:30] scientes If that gives you a hard-on, you have problems and belong in prison. [03:30] scientes Yet that is Noam Chomsky! [03:32] CrystalMath XRevan86: this is not the first time the west has faked the exact same thing [03:32] XRevan86 > Iraq is a very dangerous place for journalists: from 2003- 2009, 139 journalists were killed while doing their work. [03:32] XRevan86 That resonates with the current events, yes. [03:32] CrystalMath https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ra%C4%8Dak_massacre [03:32] -TechPolBot/#techpol-en.wikipedia.org | Raak massacre - Wikipedia [03:33] CrystalMath this was the first american-made fake of this type [03:33] CrystalMath most people said it was a prototype for future setups [03:34] CrystalMath and indeed we can see that [03:34] XRevan86 CrystalMath: There are seemingly a few differences though. [03:34] XRevan86 1. has the US continued to deny the crime after the proof was released? [03:35] XRevan86 2. the scale is smaller at least in this instance. [03:35] XRevan86 3. Russian drones have shittier cameras (but with colour) [03:36] CrystalMath the alleged perpetrator is the then-government of serbia, no evidence was ever published, and serbia still denies it [03:36] XRevan86 I get that this is a helicopter, but not sure if the camera would be different because of that. [03:36] CrystalMath the US set it up to have something to talk about in congress [03:36] CrystalMath what would even be the motive for killing random people in some villiage? [03:36] XRevan86 What makes Russia Orwellian is the continued denial when everything is already uncovered and known by the entire world except Russia. [03:37] *psydruid remembers the Kuwaiti girl, who was actually a diplomat's daughter [03:38] XRevan86 That's the display of control Russia is willing to exact over information, and does. [03:39] XRevan86 And Dmitry Orlov is the kind of person who'd lie to stay in line with the fabricated self-serving narrative the Kremlin is painting. [03:39] CrystalMath i don't believe in bucha either [03:39] CrystalMath it screams "fake" to me [03:39] XRevan86 CrystalMath: Ye are literally blind. I get that. [03:39] CrystalMath not that i care about the welfare of monsters who murder children in donetsk [03:41] XRevan86 That justifies killing children elsewhere because they're monsters. [03:42] XRevan86 Monster children. [03:42] scientes 9] XRevan86: And Dmitry Orlov is the kind of person who'd lie to stay in line with the fabricated self-serving narrative the Kremlin is paintin [03:42] XRevan86 When it's at point blank range, that's perfect. [03:42] scientes Yes, I wouldn't put him above it. [03:45] XRevan86 https://nitter.it/JuliaDavisNews/status/1573129462518272000 [03:45] -TechPolBot/#techpol-Julia Davis (@JuliaDavisNews): "Top Russian propagandist is incensed that Western countries refused to recognize the outcome of any sham referendums Russia is setting up in occupied parts of Ukraine. He claimed that Russia would put an end to Ukraine's existence: "I gave you life and I will take it away.""|nitter.it [03:47] XRevan86 scientes: My bar on media is lower because of Russian media, I like it when media doesn't blatantly lie to me and invent things from thin air. [03:48] scientes I'm going to check out the sovstoyevsy house museum at 12 [03:48] scientes 11 [03:48] XRevan86 A little bias here and there, lies of omission, I can take that. [03:49] scientes This city is so damn expensive [03:50] scientes I miss all the produce in Tbilisi. [03:52] XRevan86 scientes: Things got more expensive lately naturally. [03:52] XRevan86 Especially in dollars, as the ruble is "expensive" after the exodus of the import. [03:53] XRevan86 scientes: What is the defacto exchange rate for you? [03:57] XRevan86 The irony of CrystalMath is that he supports Russia's constant lying which turns Russia's decision-making into a self-destructive shitfest, and that is both supporting Russia and supporting Russia's inevitable demise. [03:59] *psydruid (~psydruid@jevhxkzmtrbww.irc) has left #techpol [03:59] XRevan86 That's just one thing of course. To name another, Russia's population oppression is a brewing pot of civil unrest, national conflicts, et al., one day all this is going to explode and rip Russia apart. ● Sep 23 [04:00] *psydruid (~psydruid@jevhxkzmtrbww.irc) has joined #techpol [04:05] scientes It is not so expensive outside moscow. [04:06] XRevan86 Russia is going to lose the war and it will be solely Russia's fault. And the defence against the unprecedented in the region level of violence (yes, compared to the "8 years" as well) is justified, and it's no wonder Ukraine is united more than ever before. [04:07] XRevan86 scientes: I suppose so, but St. Petersburg is on a par right now apparently. [04:08] CrystalMath XRevan86: what was a good decision, then? [04:09] CrystalMath XRevan86: the people of russia need to realize that america is the great satan [04:09] CrystalMath no matter how much they suffer, it's necessary in order to defeat the great satan [04:10] XRevan86 CrystalMath: Go suffer, don't bring others into your fight. [04:10] CrystalMath russia is the only one with a nuclear arsenal that can do it [04:10] CrystalMath and russia is the one that was attacked, not me [04:10] CrystalMath that's my point... russia didn't really have any other choice [04:10] XRevan86 CrystalMath: So your dream is nuclear winter? [04:11] CrystalMath nuclear winter is preferable to a liberal world [04:11] CrystalMath with SJW garbage [04:11] CrystalMath and feminazis running around [04:12] XRevan86 CrystalMath: Go to a therapist, I'm serious. [04:12] CrystalMath i mean, i and all the common people are the real target [04:12] CrystalMath russia is just standing in their way [04:12] CrystalMath but russia is the one that was attacked first [04:13] XRevan86 I don't want to discuss anything more, our discussion has reached its peak. [04:14] scientes I'm just really pissed about tha rzd woman stealing 1000 rb [04:14] XRevan86 CrystalMath: Take pills or something, I don't know. [04:14] scientes It messed up my whole day [04:14] scientes I now have t go to the money changer. [04:15] XRevan86 scientes: At least that's a real tangible problem. [04:15] scientes Before the museum, so I am not hungry. [04:16] psydruid You should have taken a picture and threatened to put it online with an explanation about her crime [04:17] CrystalMath https://todaytimeslive.com/world/123482.html [04:17] -TechPolBot/#techpol-todaytimeslive.com | Kiev responsible Amnesty will not be allowed access to graves in Izyum | Today Times Live [04:17] scientes But I a not a self-righteous american. [04:17] CrystalMath telling the truth hurts the junta [04:17] scientes That argues about a 15% cupon at a thrift store. [04:17] scientes I saw this when I bought my suitcase. [04:18] scientes As Xrevan86 says, it really ist about the money--iy is about the trust. [04:18] XRevan86 CrystalMath: Ukraine has a beef on Amnesty International. [04:19] psydruid I paid twice as much as I should for a pizza in India when I went there [04:19] scientes With he tangible prblem being my plans for the day. [04:19] CrystalMath XRevan86: because amnesty international tells the truth [04:19] scientes Because otherwise I would hae waited to buy the ticket [04:20] psydruid I didn't make an issue of it but I told my family and friends about it so it wouldn't happen to them [04:20] scientes I am just trying to get home. And quite tired by all that is being asked of me. [04:20] XRevan86 CrystalMath: Oh really? Remind me tomorrow, I'll find you quotes from their reports that condemn Russia for its crimes. [04:20] scientes Especially all the russian. [04:21] CrystalMath XRevan86: yes i know about their little bias in the field of territorial integrity [04:21] XRevan86 CrystalMath: Amnesty International doesn't contest that the amount of injustices Ukraine committed is not even comparable to the terror Russia inflicted on Ukrainian soil. [04:21] psydruid But you've lived among Russians for such a long time that it must have done wonders for your Russian [04:22] CrystalMath XRevan86: i'm not asking for much when it comes to western media [04:22] scientes Psydruid Georgians are not really russians. [04:22] CrystalMath XRevan86: even if they only recognize that ukrop scum kills children in donetsk to appear more truthful by sounding balanced [04:22] CrystalMath at least they said it [04:22] psydruid scientes, I thought you were living among Russian expats [04:22] CrystalMath the west is too orwellian [04:23] scientes No [04:23] CrystalMath it denies even the most obvious facts [04:23] XRevan86 CrystalMath: https://www.amnesty.org/en/latest/news/2022/09/ukraine-mass-graves-in-izium-is-a-macabre-reminder-of-the-cost-of-russian-aggression/ [04:23] -TechPolBot/#techpol-www.amnesty.org | Ukraine: Mass graves in Izium is a macabre reminder of the cost of Russian aggression - Amnesty International [04:24] CrystalMath XRevan86: see, those people really were killed by russians, they are AFU units after all, whose bodies the junta just left behind [04:24] XRevan86 A lot of organisations were let to see the graveyard. [04:24] scientes There is a big difference between the 3rd class and 2nd class train [04:24] scientes And yet I am going to take the 3rd class for 3 days. [04:24] XRevan86 Meanwhile, Olenivka is still a mystery site with Red Cross futilely trying to get in. [04:25] scientes Mainly because I am already too pooped to make anything of he 2nd class train. [04:25] XRevan86 CrystalMath: Even the women? [04:25] scientes Although I should get some locks for my suitcase [04:26] XRevan86 CrystalMath: Also really peculiar to bury Ukrainian soldiers two months into the control of the territory. [04:27] CrystalMath offensives onto Izium were constant [04:27] CrystalMath i know that part for sure (confirmed by a serbian guy fighting for russia there) [04:29] psydruid female soldiers in the Ukrainian army? [04:29] CrystalMath i never asked about that [04:29] CrystalMath i know women aren't drafted, but they can still be a part of it [04:33] scientes Xrevan86 that train I was on should be in st Petersburg soon [04:33] scientes Do you sleep? ● Sep 23 [05:17] scientes why don't i get a scrolback? ● Sep 23 [07:27] TR News FBI https://www.cbc.ca/news/world/special-master-dearie-trump-fbi-search-1.6589467 [07:27] -TechPolBot/#techpol-www.cbc.ca | Review of seized Mar-a-Lago documents should go quickly, arbiter says | CBC News [07:27] TR News Fake it till you defraud it https://www.lemonde.fr/en/international/article/2022/09/22/new-york-attorney-general-sues-trump-family-for-wildly-overstating-their-assets_5997862_4.html [07:27] -TechPolBot/#techpol-www.lemonde.fr | New York attorney general sues Trump family for overstating their assets [07:28] TR News A genocide https://www.france24.com/en/access-asia/20220922-last-surviving-khmer-rouge-leader-loses-genocide-appeal https://www.dw.com/en/cambodia-court-upholds-conviction-of-khmer-rouge-leader-khieu-samphan/a-63200020 [07:28] -TechPolBot/#techpol-www.france24.com | Last surviving Khmer Rouge leader loses genocide appeal [07:28] -TechPolBot/#techpol-Cambodia: Court upholds conviction of Khmer Rouge leader Khieu Samphan | News | DW | 22.09.2022 [07:28] TR News KSA https://www.dw.com/en/energy-woes-trump-human-rights-as-scholz-visits-saudi-arabia/a-63189419 [07:28] -TechPolBot/#techpol-Energy woes trump human rights as Scholz visits Saudi Arabia | Business | Economy and finance news from a German perspective | DW | 22.09.2022 [07:30] TR News Bangladesh police: Suspected Rohingya rebels [sic] kill another refugee camp watchman Radio Free Asia https://www.rfa.org/english/news/myanmar/bandladesh-rohingya-09212022142259.html Source: Verfassungsblog | Gemini address: gemini://gemi.dev/cgi-bin/waffle.cgi/view?https%3A//www.rfa.org/english/news/myanmar/bandladesh-rohingya-09212022142259.html [07:30] -TechPolBot/#techpol-www.rfa.org | Bangladesh police: Suspected Rohingya rebels kill another refugee camp watchman Radio Free Asia [07:30] TR News ukraine https://www.rferl.org/a/ukraine-prisoners-released-drueke-huynh/32045093.html [07:30] -TechPolBot/#techpol-www.rferl.org | Ten Prisoners Captured In Ukraine Released To Saudi Arabia, Riyadh Says [07:31] TR News st. petersburg https://www.tampabay.com/life-culture/history/2022/09/20/77-years-later-remains-ww2-pilot-st-petersburg-are-identified/ [07:31] -TechPolBot/#techpol-www.tampabay.com | 77 years later, remains of WW2 pilot from St. Petersburg are identified [07:31] TR News "In some Moscow police stations, those detained during the anti-mobilization protests on September 21 were given summonses to appear at military registration and enlistment offices" https://meduza.io/en/news/2022/09/22/detained-protesters-in-moscow-given-military-registration-summonses | Source: Meduza [07:31] -TechPolBot/#techpol-meduza.io | NO TITLE [07:32] TR News Trump docs probe: Appeals court lifts hold on Mar-a-Lago records https://www.tampabay.com/news/florida-politics/2022/09/21/trump-docs-probe-appeals-court-lifts-hold-mar-a-lago-records/ Source: Tampa Bay Times | Gemini address: gemini://gemi.dev/cgi-bin/waffle.cgi/view?https%3A//www.tampabay.com/news/florida-politics/2022/09/21/trump-docs-probe-appeals-court-lifts-hold-mar-a-lago-records/ [07:32] -TechPolBot/#techpol-www.tampabay.com | Trump docs probe: Appeals court lifts hold on Mar-a-Lago records [07:43] TR News finland https://news.err.ee/1608724405/fire-in-the-residential-quarters-of-tanker-in-gulf-of-finland [07:43] -TechPolBot/#techpol-news.err.ee | Fire in the residential quarters of tanker in Gulf of Finland | News | ERR [07:43] TR News insecure https://www.salon.com/2022/09/22/maga-and-the-incels-latest-jan-6-arrests-show-how-fascists-target-insecure-young-men/ [07:43] -TechPolBot/#techpol-MAGA and the "incels": Latest Jan. 6 arrests show how fascists target insecure young men | Salon.com [07:44] TR News Iran leader shuns Christiane Amanpour interview over refusal to wear headscarf | Ebrahim Raisi | The Guardian https://www.theguardian.com/world/2022/sep/22/christiane-amanpour-ebrahim-riasi-headscarf-interview-iran Source: The Guardian UK | Gemini address: gemini://gemi.dev/cgi-bin/waffle.cgi/view?https%3A//www.theguardian.com/world/2022/sep/22/christiane-amanpour-ebrahim-riasi-headscarf-interview-iran [07:44] -TechPolBot/#techpol-www.theguardian.com | Iran leader shuns Christiane Amanpour interview over refusal to wear headscarf | Ebrahim Raisi | The Guardian [07:45] TR News Finland also https://translate.google.com/translate?sl=ru&tl=en&u=https://ospi.fi/blog/khochu-zhit.html [07:45] -TechPolBot/#techpol-ospi-fi.translate.goog | Khochu Zhit - oBlog [07:53] scientes why do we have to have the bots in this channel? [07:53] scientes I was trying to get away from that incessant racket ● Sep 23 [08:04] schestowitz[tr3] scientes: that's a new thing [08:04] schestowitz[tr3] scientes: I will lower that a bit [08:09] *psydruid (~psydruid@jevhxkzmtrbww.irc) has left #techpol [08:23] scientes => 0x00030eec <+916>:udf#65006; 0xfdee [08:23] scientes hmm [08:23] scientes undefined thumb-16b instruction [08:31] *psydruid (~psydruid@jevhxkzmtrbww.irc) has joined #techpol [08:49] scientes https://rtd.rt.com/films/operation-ukraine-crime-without-punishment/ [08:49] -TechPolBot/#techpol-rtd.rt.com | Operation Ukraine: Crime without Punishment RTD [08:49] scientes at 3:26 the newspapers in Kiev took the picture and just go "I know you are, but what am I?" [08:50] scientes which is something I am very familiar with in Georgia [08:51] scientes "We can't let you walk down the road for your own safety, even if there are buses with Abkhazians coming this very moment." [08:51] scientes Because we CARE about you sooooooooo much. [08:54] scientes meanwhile they use "Citizen" is the OPPOSITE way the French used it [08:54] scientes almost as a synonym of "peasant" [08:55] scientes or "piece-of-shit" ● Sep 23 [09:01] scientes I would like a better run-down of the oligarchs in Georgia that were supporting the neo-Nazis in very ugly ways when I was there [09:01] scientes It was clearly a CIA color revolution type of thing [09:02] scientes and it was SOOOO anti-georgian simply because of how it was blatent nationalism, for a nation that doesn't really exist [09:04] scientes and talking about the port of Odessa---that corruption clearly extended to Batumi, which has a ferry to Odessa [09:04] *starstreak has quit (connection closed) [09:04] *starstreak (~starstreak@muarsy2vret2q.irc) has joined #techpol [09:06] schestowitz[tr3] scientes: why did you move there anyway? [09:07] schestowitz[tr3] panama seems better [09:07] schestowitz[tr3] atm [09:07] scientes where is "there?" [09:08] TR News "The Chinese government recruited scientists, who worked at Los Alamos National Laboratory in New Mexico, for assisting China to advance key military and dual-use technologies in areas such as hypersonics" https://cio.economictimes.indiatimes.com/news/next-gen-technologies/china-targeted-scientists-working-in-us-labs-to-advance-military-technologies-report/94386011 | Source: India Times [09:08] -TechPolBot/#techpol-cio.economictimes.indiatimes.com | china: China targeted scientists working in US labs to advance military technologies: Report, CIO News, ET CIO [09:08] *psydruid (~psydruid@jevhxkzmtrbww.irc) has left #techpol [09:08] schestowitz[tr3] russia, georgia [09:08] schestowitz[tr3] even the language is foreign [09:08] schestowitz[tr3] so people can tell "you're not from here" [09:08] *psydruid (~psydruid@jevhxkzmtrbww.irc) has joined #techpol [09:09] scientes I see a picture of Queen Elizabeth II on this Moscow newspaper [09:09] scientes kinda stupid [09:12] scientes and Chomsky sent his bitches right through that Odessa port, as his typical arrogance [09:12] scientes without telling them about the politics of it [09:12] scientes but when they DO know, they can't say anything [09:13] scientes because their audience is YouTube, which is him, and they can't threaten the drag-net [09:13] scientes as that is not only political suicide, but puts them on the same list I am now on [09:13] scientes the treason list [09:14] *psydruid (~psydruid@jevhxkzmtrbww.irc) has left #techpol [09:15] scientes and the fascists chose victory day for their coup [09:22] TR News "investigations into unproven claims of fraud in the 2020 presidential election" https://eu.detroitnews.com/story/news/local/michigan/2022/09/21/michigan-cracking-down-on-election-clerks-who-gave-away-tabulators/69508854007/ | Source: Digital First Media [09:22] -TechPolBot/#techpol-www.detroitnews.com | State cracking down on election clerks who gave away tabulators [09:23] scientes schestowitz, I don't want to hear about democracy in a place that doesn't have democracy [09:23] scientes it is a waste of my time, please turn it off [09:26] TR News "The Russian President Vladimir Putin awarded the Hero of Russia title posthumously to Victor Tretyakevich" https://meduza.io/en/news/2022/09/22/victor-tretyakevich-executed-in-1943-and-once-considered-a-traitor-posthumously-made-hero-of-russia | Source: Meduza [09:26] -TechPolBot/#techpol-meduza.io | NO TITLE [09:27] schestowitz[tr3] scientes: yes, it is fake [09:27] schestowitz[tr3] in most countries [09:27] schestowitz[tr3] that claim to have it [09:27] scientes I saw alot of democracy on the *private* busess in LatinAmerica [09:27] scientes if someone was bothering you, they were off the bus [09:27] scientes it was really efficient [09:28] scientes they were also able to make a profit over fares that were lower than those in US and EU [09:28] scientes were the fares don't even pay for the fare-card machines [09:35] *psydruid (~psydruid@jevhxkzmtrbww.irc) has joined #techpol [09:38] schestowitz[tr3] which parts of LatinAmerica? [09:40] *psydruid (~psydruid@jevhxkzmtrbww.irc) has left #techpol [09:40] *psydruid (~psydruid@jevhxkzmtrbww.irc) has joined #techpol [09:40] TR News "Chinese authorities in Tibet have allegedly arrested and tortured five Tibetans" https://www.rfa.org/english/news/cambodia/religious_arrests-09212022163014.html | Source: RFA [09:40] -TechPolBot/#techpol-www.rfa.org | Chinese authorities allegedly torture 5 Tibetans, 1 to death, for praying in public Radio Free Asia [09:42] TR News "7 protestors have been killed in East Kurdistan in the last four days." https://anfenglishmobile.com/kurdistan/seven-killed-during-ongoing-protests-in-east-kurdistan-against-the-killing-of-mahsa-amini-62608 | Source: ANF News [09:42] -TechPolBot/#techpol-anfenglishmobile.com | ANF | Seven killed during ongoing protests in East Kurdistan against the killing of Mahsa Amini [09:46] *psydruid (~psydruid@jevhxkzmtrbww.irc) has left #techpol [09:48] frog the problem with "LGBTQ", "feminism", "muliticuralism" of the strain which is common is, how those are conflated with the political system [09:49] frog to provoke argument: EU is not a constitutional/lawful state, it isn't democratic, it is anti-liberal - and the political fringe known as "the left" aligns with it on the basis of individual benefit [09:51] scientes frog, it is also based on liberal hypocricy however [09:51] frog it's not specific to such minorities, that's not the argument, it is just not any moral superiority or ideology, those minorities align to "EU" and similar [09:51] scientes hence the confusion [09:51] scientes just like the US is [09:52] scientes like how they control the economy through beurocracy [09:52] scientes and false choice [09:52] CrystalMath frog: multiculturalism is something i refuse to call by that name [09:52] scientes like Poland getting over-priced liquified natural gas [09:52] CrystalMath because what it really is, is cultural erasure [09:52] CrystalMath they basically say, you can come live over there, but you have to live by their rules [09:52] scientes as a way of support the nationalists (and they also ignore neo-nazis there, which is very troubling considering all the largest extermination camps were there) [09:52] CrystalMath your culture will be assimilated, it will become some TV joke [09:52] scientes the complete cognative dissonance of that is troubling [09:52] CrystalMath this is basically the borg, i do not support it [09:53] CrystalMath different cultures should exist, but in places where THEY call the shots [09:53] CrystalMath e.g. sharia law [09:53] scientes that people don't kill neonazis outright in Poland---anyone that doesn't is stupid and doesn't value their lives [09:53] scientes pick them up and throw them into the North Sea [09:53] scientes because the evidence is right there in front of them [09:54] scientes here we have Olaf Scholtz saying "there are no neo-nazis in Ukraine" [09:54] scientes despite such clear evidence [09:54] scientes (which I have now witnessed personally) [09:55] TR News Ramzan Kadyrov https://meduza.io/en/news/2022/09/22/chechen-leader-ramzan-kadyrov-extremely-unhappy-about-russian-ukraine-prisoner-exchange | Source: Meduza [09:55] -TechPolBot/#techpol-meduza.io | NO TITLE [09:55] scientes Olaf Scholtz kinda sounds like Rockafeller "there will not be war in Europe" [09:56] frog the _economic_ war ignited long before anyone talked about it, and it won't stop, it escalates [09:56] frog and since 1990, there had been too many benefitiaries of this [09:57] scientes frog, you mean theft? [09:57] frog scientes: my memories since 1990 are specific to east-germany [09:58] scientes well West Germany just absorbed East Germany, so they had it pretty good [09:58] scientes not a bullet was fired [09:58] CrystalMath hi frog [09:58] frog good morning! [09:58] *DaemonFC has quit (Quit: Leaving) [09:58] frog just had a cup of tea, and stillneed to cool down my mood over the energy bill i received [09:58] scientes can't say so of Georgia [09:58] scientes with that bloody 1993 war [09:59] scientes (which Tbilisi still pretends never happened, because they never did care about Georgians) [09:59] scientes they are just US-ass-kissers, including showing Sakaishvili on TV to proove that once a bitch of the US, always a bitch of the US ● Sep 23 [10:00] scientes *on TV from prison [10:00] frog scientes: may I ask where you are residing/living/coming-from? i am not asking to spy on you, only want to know what the perspective of yours is. [10:00] scientes (this has nothing to do with that man's crimes, as Medyedev says "He is a criminal, I will never shake his hand" because the US doesn't care what a criminal you are) [10:00] scientes frog, I am in Moscow at the moment, but I lived in Georgia for 3 years [10:01] frog thanks. noted. [10:01] scientes until the US empire persecuted me there [10:01] scientes and flew me over the north pole against my will [10:01] scientes abducted me from the border, kidnapped me, tried to convert me to homosexuality (I do not say that in jest, and it was a joint project with the fascism in the US), and trafficked in my body [10:02] scientes thankfully the Russian Federation was able to get habeus corpus granted, and now I am safer in Russia [10:03] scientes and despite the threats they were also aware of my whereabouts as a traveled through Qatar [10:03] scientes the US also defaced my US passport with Obama's creative interpretations (i.e. incorrect) of law [10:04] scientes so I need to make plans to not get it renewed, and it helps that in Moscow they put the stamp directly on the Visa [10:04] scientes because I ended up with the souvineer passport with very few pages [10:05] scientes I was also stalked when i applied to file taxes in the US [10:06] scientes (and not by the IRS) [10:06] scientes but by the fascists [10:07] scientes anyways, I did get my taxes filed [10:07] scientes although I was not totally successful, only like half successful [10:08] scientes it doesn't help that my old employeer went out of business [10:08] scientes and my Google email where my w2 from them was blocked to me by the fascists [10:09] scientes so I can't give them their money precisely because they have blocked me from accessing my own records [10:13] TR News "Everyone knew it was coming" https://meduza.io/en/feature/2022/09/22/everyone-knew-it-was-coming | Source: Meduza [10:13] -TechPolBot/#techpol-meduza.io | NO TITLE [10:15] scientes ignore Hofstadters law: it always takes longer than you expect, even when you take into account Hofstadters Law. [10:15] scientes hahahahahah [10:17] TR News "partial mobilization" https://meduza.io/en/feature/2022/09/22/prepare-to-stand-up-for-your-convictions | Source: Meduza [10:17] -TechPolBot/#techpol-meduza.io | NO TITLE [10:17] scientes that article was good [10:18] TR News "In Minsks main airport, police have begun stopping men with Russian passports for inspections" https://meduza.io/en/news/2022/09/22/belarus-police-stopping-russian-passport-holders-in-minsk-airport | Source: Meduza [10:18] -TechPolBot/#techpol-meduza.io | NO TITLE [10:18] schestowitz[tr3] "nobody leaves!!" [10:20] frog most probably can't anyway, the few cases which are reported, are relevant, yet insignicant with regards to the amount of drafts and the overall morale of the troops [10:21] *psydruid (~psydruid@jevhxkzmtrbww.irc) has joined #techpol [10:22] frog Russia tumbling into a madhouse situation, is a great danger, whatever their plans are [10:22] TR News Vladimir Tsimlyansky https://meduza.io/en/feature/2022/09/22/russia-s-partial-mobilization-continues-to-look-less-partial | Source: Meduza [10:22] -TechPolBot/#techpol-meduza.io | NO TITLE [10:23] frog and the _economic_ war which ignited, can't be stopped with infantry [10:23] frog do those drafts contain orders to any workplace too? [10:24] scientes frog, there is an article of that [10:24] scientes but it is about Ukranian drafters [10:31] frog i reject any service involved with violent force, either being exposed to it or commiting it. [10:32] frog the report from Tsimlyansky seems, it explains the ordinary german legislation, which was abandoned 10 years ago [10:32] frog in the end, what difference is it, to either report to employment agency or any military office? [10:33] frog strangely, i haven't been called at least _once_ in almost 5 years, although i had sent thousands of letters, in germany [10:35] frog in germany, mandatory military draft was abandoned, we got an exclusively "professional military" now [10:36] frog i won't sign up with them, and i am probably "too old" already, and what i studied and learned, it's pretty much useless anyway [10:37] frog and i mean, before i relocated from east-germany to bavaria, 10 years ago, i, myself, alone, trained myself [10:37] frog swimming, 15miles per week; currently, i am rotting in an appartment here in Nurnberg, with fungus at the walls because i couldn't afford heating this shithole [10:38] frog too i continued practicing all sorts of programming skills, reading political literature, simply because, i couldn't comprehent the madhouse situation, and seeked an explanation [10:39] frog i can't do elaborate scientific work, without a lab-space and university surrounding me, where i could live and work in peace [10:39] frog instead, it is constant threats of being thrown out... can't pay the rent, 8 weeks, you're out [10:39] frog scientes: no need for drafting anyone with this system in place [10:39] scientes swimming, 15miles per week; currently, i am rotting in an appartment here in Nurnberg, with fungus at the walls because i couldn't afford heating this shithole [10:39] scientes nice [10:40] scientes i was swimming 3 km a day for a while [10:40] scientes it was great [10:40] scientes i swam 5km in La Paz one day [10:40] frog scientes: could be worse. i rejected german military draft for another reason, which was the political turmoil of 1990 [10:40] scientes which is at very high elevation [10:40] scientes 1/2 the air pressure [10:41] frog open water is more challenging, in swimming hall, i limited my track to 7kilometers, in 2.5hours [10:41] frog as said, this was more than 10 years ago [10:41] frog and due to the constant harassment and threats by the buraucracy, i had difficulty eating and sleeping enough [10:42] frog if you want to train, to optimum mental and physical capacity, the body needs alot more sleep and nutrition [10:42] frog i compensated with coffee and cigarettes... a weird combination, yet, it is possible [10:43] frog for whatever reason, the drafting system in germany disposed me into the trash bin... it was a rather expensive write-off, i would say [10:43] frog and, they couldn't afford it either. it's just, different, if basic service of a state was abandoned, the outcome with daily needs is instant, no food, no water [10:44] frog yet, if they wreck scientific intelligence, for whatever higher cause, it takes a little while, to comprehend the "return of investment" then [10:44] frog haven't got any children either, just saying, whom could learn and grow up as loyal citizen of this state here [10:48] frog long story short, i couln't help neither russia nor ukraine anymore, even if i wanted to [10:49] frog in school and university, i learned russian, noone to talk to in 20 years... that's gone too [10:52] frog scientes: how are "unemployed" coped with in Russia? is there any employment agency and social security? [10:53] frog in germany, the employment agency typically proposes a "contract" to sign: "Eingliederungsvereinbarung" [10:54] frog which translates closely to, "commitment to line up", in military terms, not easily explained [10:54] TR News "The unionists were always going to object to anything which further legitimises Sinn Fin" https://www.counterpunch.org/2022/09/22/how-northern-irelands-unionists-are-embarrassing-themselves-over-king-charles-meeting-with-sinn-fein/ | Source: Counter Punch [10:54] -TechPolBot/#techpol-How Northern Ireland's Unionists are Embarrassing Themselves Over King Charles' Meeting with Sinn Fin - CounterPunch.org [10:57] frog most of the details mentioned with the russian military drafting system reminds me of the regular civilian employment agency in germany [10:57] frog almost identical rules [10:59] scientes who cares about that fruitcake [10:59] scientes hes a fucking fruit cake ● Sep 23 [11:04] frog often, such drafts, distinguish non-disposable/non-replacable ("unabkoemmlich") workers, who can't be sacrificed at the frontlines [11:04] frog because they are required elsewhere, for any other economic/scientific task in society [11:05] TR News Secrecy's privatization https://www.counterpunch.org/2022/09/22/what-trumps-document-grab-tells-us-about-the-privatization-of-secrecy/ | Source: Counter Punch [11:05] -TechPolBot/#techpol-What Trump's Document Grab Tells Us About the Privatization of Secrecy - CounterPunch.org [11:05] TR News "Germany is ready, under certain conditions, to give asylum to defectors from the Russian army" https://meduza.io/en/news/2022/09/22/germany-ready-to-accept-russian-deserters-and-conscientious-objectors | Source: Meduza [11:05] -TechPolBot/#techpol-meduza.io | NO TITLE [11:05] TR News "On September 2122, Russian social media filled with videos showing heavy traffic at the countrys border" https://meduza.io/en/feature/2022/09/23/traffic-jams-form-at-russia-s-border-checkpoints-as-potential-conscripts-scramble-to-escape | Source: Meduza [11:06] -TechPolBot/#techpol-meduza.io | NO TITLE [11:06] TR News "Ukraines President Volodymyr Zelensky switched to Russian during his video address on day 211 of the war" https://meduza.io/en/news/2022/09/23/zelensky-speaks-to-russians-about-mobilization-and-survival-in-the-war | Source: Meduza [11:06] -TechPolBot/#techpol-meduza.io | NO TITLE [11:06] TR News "An attack by Azerbaijan on Armenia left more than 200 people dead before a ceasefire was called last Wednesday." https://www.democracynow.org/2022/9/22/roubina_margossian_2022_azerbaijan_attack_armenia | Source: Democracy Now [11:06] -TechPolBot/#techpol-www.democracynow.org | Azerbaijans Deadly Attack on Armenia Inflames Decades-Long Conflict in South Caucasus | Democracy Now! [11:08] frog in german politics, currently, they discuss "sanctions" against "unemployed", to either abandon sanctions or not [11:08] frog with the recent energy bills arriving, sanctions won't be necessary anymore [11:09] frog meanwhile the stack of work piles up to the roof, i fear being thrown out onto the streets if i don't pay those _fraudulent_ bills [11:12] TR News Women Burn Hijabs in Iran https://www.democracynow.org/2022/9/22/mass_protests_erupt_iran_mahsa_amini | Source: Democracy Now [11:12] -TechPolBot/#techpol-www.democracynow.org | Women Burn Hijabs in Iran as Protests Escalate over Killing of Mahsa Amini by Morality Police | Democracy Now! [11:13] TR News Cuba https://www.democracynow.org/2022/9/22/cuban_deputy_foreign_minister_un_assembly | Source: Democracy Now [11:13] -TechPolBot/#techpol-www.democracynow.org | Cubas Deputy Foreign Minister on U.S. Embargo, Gay Marriage & Russias Invasion of Ukraine | Democracy Now! [11:26] frog "Berlin requires a huge amount of monkey-pox vaccine doses", Lauterbach, ministry of health, germany [11:28] frog "Russian deserters shall be granted asylum in Germany", various voices among MEP [11:30] *starstreak has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) ● Sep 23 [12:01] MinceR https://nitter.it/tarah/status/1572800305104035840 [12:02] -TechPolBot/#techpol-Tarah M. Wheeler (@tarah): "If I were a Russian programmer, I wouldn't want to go near any Windows either."|nitter.it [12:07] XRevan86 scientes: Saying that there are no neo-Nazis anywhere is setting oneself up for failure, indeed. [12:08] XRevan86 scientes: Saying "there are no neo-Nazis in the Ukrainian political establishment" is correct however. So the statement just needs a tweak. [12:10] XRevan86 https://theins.press/en/news/255344 [12:10] -TechPolBot/#techpol-theins.press | They are grabbing everybody to fulfill the plan. Locals describe mobilization in Buryatia [12:11] XRevan86 And if look outside the political establishment, well, the argument is simple: https://rferl.org/a/russian-neo-nazis-fighting-ukraine/31871760.html [12:11] -TechPolBot/#techpol-www.rferl.org | Who Are The Neo-Nazis Fighting For Russia In Ukraine? [12:14] XRevan86 https://translate.google.com/translate?sl=ru&tl=en&u=https://theins.ru/news/255308 "Russian neo-Nazi Milchakov threatens to kill prisoners after swapping Putin's fellow Medvedchuk for Azov commanders" [12:14] -TechPolBot/#techpol-theins-ru.translate.goog | [12:22] frog in german tv, the frontline soldiers when asked if there was "Nazis" among them, argued they were "slighlty more motivated for this job than the average drafted rercruits"... [12:23] frog in this case, they carried the Ukrainian flag for this [12:23] MinceR it's funny how an AfD supporter tries to distract from their own nazism by pinning it on others [12:23] XRevan86 frog: That's pretty much how that works on both sides. [12:24] frog exactly [12:25] XRevan86 Not all of them are proper neo-Nazis (I'm only confident in the Russian ones) but the far-right element is there. [12:28] frog and it is no secret, among AfD voters, the percentage of police and military is above averge, typically the type of character carrying guns [12:28] frog MinceR: the german constitution _insists_ military was integrated into the democratic system, not excluded from it [12:28] frog what would you prefer then, AfD and their voters expelled from parliament? [12:30] MinceR i would prefer to live among intelligent, civilized beings [12:30] MinceR but that's obviously not going to happen on Earth [12:30] frog just because, i ocasionally read their newspapers (you wouldn't at least know which ones to read), doesn't make me a support of them [12:31] MinceR of course [12:31] MinceR the fact that you advertise them on IRC regularly does [12:31] frog among AfD, it's a mixture of different political groups, including pro-life catholics, former christian consevatives, liberals, the mentioned military officers [12:33] frog and too, some political fringe from the far-right; and my opinion is this, it is far worse to exclude them from public discourse than them remaining in parliament as democratic political party [12:33] frog if you don't agree with them, don't vote for them [12:35] XRevan86 https://english.alarabiya.net/News/middle-east/2022/09/22/At-least-31-killed-in-crackdown-on-Iran-protests-NGO [12:35] -TechPolBot/#techpol-english.alarabiya.net | At least 31 killed in crackdown on Iran protests: NGO | Al Arabiya English [12:37] frog AfD supports re-introduction of mandatory military draft (which germany abandoned 10years ago, and Russia still has) [12:37] frog i fundamentally disagree with re-introduction of military draft, however, that's irelevant too, because employment agency here and the social system implements the legal framework regardless [12:39] frog too, AfD is a strong supporter of the "social security" system and "sanctions" [12:41] frog i say this system is dysfunctional, it retains the facade of any legal framework to rely upon, a facade of "social security" the government needs to retain to justify their corruption and crimes [12:42] frog for any "greater good", which first and foremost is their own comfort and pockets stuffed with inflated shitcoins [12:43] frog MinceR: i only voted for AfD once, which was year 2013, because at that time "EU" apparatschiks celebrated themselves, meanwhile yout unemployment accross Europe exploded [12:43] frog and it was AfD politicians _only_ who cared to remind "EU" of this minor irelevant detail [12:44] frog 10 years later, they inflated Euro beyond repair [12:48] MinceR it's ok, apparently _you_ are allowed to support nazis [12:48] XRevan86 https://meduza.io/en/news/2022/09/23/referendums-on-joining-the-russian-federation-begin-in-russian-occupied-territories-of-ukraine "Referendums on joining the Russian Federation begin in Russian-occupied territories of Ukraine" [12:48] -TechPolBot/#techpol-meduza.io | NO TITLE [12:48] MinceR including united russia [12:48] MinceR and putler [12:48] MinceR and somehow it's still a valid reason to attack others [12:48] MinceR we actually have a word for this [12:49] MinceR it's "hypocrisy" [12:49] XRevan86 https://novayagazeta.eu/articles/2022/09/23/detainees-of-russias-mobilisation-protests-deprived-of-sleep-and-food-news "Detainees of Russias mobilisation protests deprived of sleep and food" [12:49] -TechPolBot/#techpol-novayagazeta.eu | . ● Sep 23 [13:01] XRevan86 https://nitter.it/TpyxaNews/status/1573271915455979522 [13:01] -TechPolBot/#techpol-English (@TpyxaNews): "Referendum in Mariupol"|nitter.it [13:01] XRevan86 (video) [13:02] frog reminder, Minsk agreement I [13:03] frog 1) immediate bilateral ceasefire 2) monitoring and verification of the ceasefire by the OSCE [13:03] frog AND, then next: [13:03] frog 3. Decentralisation of power, including through the adoption of the Ukrainian law "On temporary Order of Local Self-Governance in Particular Districts of Donetsk and Luhansk Oblasts" [13:04] XRevan86 frog: Obviously that's not going to happen now. [13:04] XRevan86 (video) https://nitter.it/TpyxaNews/status/1573232565514915840 https://nitter.it/TpyxaNews/status/1573268593617567744 [13:04] -TechPolBot/#techpol-English (@TpyxaNews): "Fight between mobilized in the Russian Federation"|nitter.it [13:04] -TechPolBot/#techpol-English (@TpyxaNews): "Brave soldiers from russia"|nitter.it [13:04] frog Minsk II [13:05] frog 4. On the first day after the pullout a dialogue is to start on modalities of conducting local elections in accordance with the Ukrainian legislation and the Law of Ukraine "On temporary Order of Local Self-Governance in Particular Districts of Donetsk and Luhansk Oblasts," and also about the future of these districts based on the above-mentioned law [13:05] frog elections. [13:06] XRevan86 frog: What's your point? [13:07] frog XRevan86: currently the argument perpetuated is "international community won't recognize any referendum", which slightly contradicts the Minsk agreement insisting on decentralized governments and elections [13:07] XRevan86 frog: It meant the governance *in Ukraine*. [13:08] XRevan86 Trying to tie into Russia annexing more territory is ludicrious. [13:08] frog XRevan86: it meant decentralized/federal governments, in Ukraine, yes. [13:08] frog a decentralized/federal government, is NOT the one from Kiev, in this case [13:09] MinceR it's funny how agreements count only if and only to the extent they're convenient to vladolf and his fan club [13:09] XRevan86 MinceR: It's not even "counting" as this is not valid interpretation. [13:09] MinceR it could sort of make sense if vladolf was in a position of power, but he isn't [13:09] CrystalMath nobody cared about the minsk agreement, it doesn't work [13:09] MinceR his empire is going to be ground down to nothing [13:09] MinceR and now we find out that aggi is nobody [13:10] CrystalMath maybe there was one way minsk could have worked [13:10] CrystalMath if Trump had won in 2020 [13:10] CrystalMath and pressured zelensky to respect it [13:10] MinceR yeah, then the usa would have become a client of the orcish empire [13:10] CrystalMath MinceR: it was energy-independenet [13:11] MinceR and another dictatorship [13:11] CrystalMath *independent [13:11] CrystalMath so no, the US would not depend on russia in any way [13:11] MinceR it's the "multipolar" world CrystalMath wants, where the "multi" means 1 [13:11] CrystalMath no [13:11] CrystalMath there would be 3 poles [13:11] MinceR lol no [13:11] CrystalMath US, russia, and china [13:11] MinceR but presumably poles are also counted according to convenience [13:12] MinceR because that's also just an excuse to support dictatorships [13:12] CrystalMath what? [13:12] CrystalMath US, russia, and china [13:12] CrystalMath they would have equal power [13:12] MinceR if former president Traffic Cone of Treason wins again, there will not be an independent US [13:12] CrystalMath why? [13:12] MinceR and either orcland will become a red chinese colony, or possibly (if former president Bunker Bitch wins) the other way around [13:13] MinceR because he's openly subservient to putler [13:13] MinceR and he already did everything he could to compromise democracy in the USA [13:13] MinceR he also threatened to dismantle the NATO [13:13] CrystalMath where "democracy" means that even though the vast majority of americans opposes critical race theory, it's forced upon kids in schools [13:13] CrystalMath *oppose [13:13] MinceR if former president Cheeto Hitler wins again, that will likely be the last free election the USA ever had [13:14] CrystalMath that's the kind of democracy you believe in [13:14] MinceR this has nothing to do with CRT [13:14] CrystalMath are you just gonna ignore it? [13:14] CrystalMath that's the consequence of biden [13:14] XRevan86 https://nitter.it/henkvaness/status/1572790646011740160 [13:14] -TechPolBot/#techpol- (@henkvaness): "We invite all Russian citizens to vote in our referendum to become part of the Netherlands. #Russia #RussiaUkraineWar #UkraineRussiaWar #Ukraine #UkraineInvasion (share!) Via @arjenlubach"|nitter.it [13:14] MinceR that's just another crackpot fascist bullshit to distract people [13:14] MinceR yes, i'm just gonna ignore the lies of the fascist media [13:15] CrystalMath MinceR: "this is not happening" [13:15] CrystalMath but it is [13:15] MinceR [citation needed] [13:15] CrystalMath you're a fool if you think they're gonna back down, lol [13:15] CrystalMath you ignore the greatest evil this planet has ever seen [13:15] CrystalMath because "the right wing media" is the only one pointing to it [13:15] CrystalMath ridiculous [13:15] MinceR funny how quickly you've gone from "it's forced" to "they're not gonna back down" [13:15] frog besides, ideology such as CRT is entangled and conflated with an anti-democratic, anti-liberal, totalitarian and corrupt regime [13:15] CrystalMath MinceR: biden will not back down [13:16] CrystalMath and not just with that crp [13:16] CrystalMath *crap [13:16] CrystalMath you're gonna get ALL the feminism and ALL the Schwab stuff [13:16] frog hence any opposition to the regime, is diverted back to the supposed "ideologies", who aligned with this regime, for individual benefit [13:16] MinceR they make up all sorts of shit at OAN and fox noise, you watch it and you believe every letter of it [13:17] MinceR also, i had the misfortune of getting to watch a ruscist dismantle democracy up real close [13:17] MinceR because it happened here in 2010 [13:18] CrystalMath oh, that's right, you won't feel the horror of the crap you're serving to americans [13:18] CrystalMath because Orbn will protect you [13:18] CrystalMath but you will spit on him while he does so [13:18] MinceR the USA had more functional checks and balances so former president Super Callous Fragile Racist Sexist Nazi POTUS couldn't do it in 4 years [13:19] MinceR orban is already not protecting me from anything [13:19] XRevan86 https://themoscowtimes.com/2022/09/23/a78877 [13:19] -TechPolBot/#techpol-www.themoscowtimes.com | Uzbekistan Suspends Russia's Mir Payment System - The Moscow Times [13:19] MinceR the only thing that's protecting me is putler's inability to support his military to come as far as Kyiv [13:20] MinceR orban compromised hungary's NATO membership, so i can't really count on the NATO to defend me [13:20] MinceR hungary's own military is laughable [13:20] MinceR it probably wouldn't even be able to stand up to the unclothed, unwashed orcs that manage to walk here with rusty AK-s [13:20] frog MinceR: yesterday hungary's soccer team had, almost, beaten german team [13:20] MinceR who gives a fuck about soccer? [13:21] frog MinceR: Orban [13:21] MinceR soccer is probably the most boring game ever invented [13:21] MinceR orban can go fuck himself [13:21] MinceR he can also go fuck all of his hobbies [13:22] frog i have some sympathies, for sports clubs, who are NOT drowning in cash, and compete against the billionaries of the "german" national soccer team [13:22] MinceR again, who gives a fuck [13:22] MinceR it's a waste of money and resources [13:22] frog i didn't watch the match [13:22] MinceR a bunch of dumbasses stand around doing nothing for 90 fucking minutes [13:22] MinceR and sometimes pretend to be grievously injured by being looked at [13:23] MinceR occasionally they walk back and forth with a ball [13:23] MinceR if they're not hungarian [13:23] MinceR for hungarian soccer players, that would be too much effort [13:24] MinceR the only reason a hungarian team could occasionally do well is that orban wastes massive amounts of taxpayer money on hiring and paying foreigner players [13:24] MinceR while hyperinflation is coming to hungary [13:25] MinceR the alleged "cheap" and "plentiful" gas tainted with ukrainian blood is neither cheap nor plentiful [13:25] MinceR electricity prices have been hiked for no reason [13:25] MinceR every data behind those is classified [13:25] MinceR the economy is shutting down [13:25] MinceR the infrastructure has been falling apart for more than a decade [13:26] MinceR we've even had a fuel shortage recently [13:26] MinceR businesses are fleeing the country [13:26] MinceR hungary is not a safe place to be in [13:33] XRevan86 One interesting aspect of the far-right fighting for Ukraine is that there are Russian nationalists fighting for Ukraine too: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Russian_Volunteer_Corps [13:33] -TechPolBot/#techpol-en.wikipedia.org | Russian Volunteer Corps - Wikipedia [13:33] frog electricity prices in Hungary are among the lowest in Europe, 10cents/kWh, germany it is ~30cents [13:33] MinceR probably not anymore [13:34] MinceR i remember reading that the price is a multiple of what it costs to produce the energy at Paks [13:34] XRevan86 I wonder if CrystalMath can imagine why somebody would fight Putin for the Glory of Russia. [13:34] frog with heating, the bill i received, is fraudulent beyond imagination... they tax energy which doesn't exist on my account, excessive amounts [13:34] MinceR i don't think it can be interpreted along orban's "the homeland can not be in opposition" bullshit :> [13:35] XRevan86 MinceR: What does that mean? [13:35] frog for the "greater good" of theirs, i don't care, it's cheaper nowadays to burn books for heating, this is the situation, Germany 2022 [13:35] frog an i am not over-exaggerating this [13:35] MinceR XRevan86: that anyone who is not with the fuhrer is not hungarian, or, in the other case, not russian :> [13:36] MinceR an inability to consider the good of the country/people from the good of the dictator separately [13:36] XRevan86 MinceR: Hungary is also plagued with this? I should have known. [13:36] MinceR indeed [13:36] MinceR orban copied putler's model [13:36] MinceR then kaczynski copied it from orban [13:37] XRevan86 MinceR: Did he ever say "One Volk! One Prsident! One Zeig!"? [13:38] XRevan86 s/One/Ein/g [13:39] MinceR not yet [13:39] MinceR afaik [13:39] MinceR also, there's some sort of network charge on the price of electricity which was inexplicably hiked a lot this year [13:40] MinceR presumably in the hopes that people will overlook it when considering the price of electricity [13:41] frog electricity has one advantage of gas still: you can meter the consumption yourself [13:41] frog with the gas-grid, you can't [13:41] XRevan86 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gas_meter [13:41] -TechPolBot/#techpol-en.wikipedia.org | Gas meter - Wikipedia [13:41] frog over gas [13:41] frog XRevan86: i am not operating this grid, nor the heater nor the metering [13:42] frog it's sealed behind a heavy door down in the basement [13:42] XRevan86 frog: But ye said it in general terms. [13:42] XRevan86 frog: Meanwhile it's actually *your* problem. [13:42] frog with this installation, they could sell 1liter of petrol for 100euros, and say that's fine, it's "market" [13:42] XRevan86 frog: Ye do that a lot: conflate your personal problems with the state of the world. [13:42] frog XRevan86: my consumption is that low, i am not that heavily hit by this fraud, not yet [13:43] XRevan86 I have a gas meter. [13:44] frog i want to be disconnected from the gas-grid, and all balancing sheet positions removed from the bill [13:44] frog i do NOT accept a price of 1hot bath for ~100Euros, a hat bath i had not taken in 5years [13:44] frog *hot [13:44] *psydruid (~psydruid@jevhxkzmtrbww.irc) has left #techpol [13:45] frog although i can still afford it, i do not accept the FRAUD involved [13:45] CrystalMath XRevan86: it's not hard, people brainwashed with iPhones and shiny western stuff [13:45] frog imagine if, you fueled your car at the petrol station, claiming it was 50liters, and instead they only pump 5liters into the vehicle, and ask twice the price on top for 50liters [13:45] frog this is what they do currently [13:46] MinceR i'm glad i don't have hypePhones [13:46] MinceR and my shiny stuff is eastern :> [13:46] XRevan86 https://atgas.ru/images/products/small/4e50617a1884e713.jpg Here's how a Russian gas meter looks like. [13:46] frog then they say, the price for 50liters, it's not that bad, however, forget to mention it was only 5liters [13:46] CrystalMath XRevan86: also they are nazis, apparently [13:47] frog furthermore, then they say, germany supposedly consumed too much, and emitted too much carbon... [13:47] frog question, based on whose calcuation and which data? [13:48] frog situation is, since the walls are rotting from fungus, and i have to burn books for heating next [13:48] CrystalMath huh, early polls show only about 60% people want DPR to be a part of russia [13:48] CrystalMath if it's that low in DPR, kherson may actually fail its referendum [13:49] CrystalMath but these are very early results [13:50] XRevan86 "people brainwashed with iPhones and shiny western stuff" "also they are nazis, apparently" <- Pick one %). [13:50] CrystalMath XRevan86: idk, i know some guy who is gay and a nazi on IRC [13:50] CrystalMath and yes he's pro-ukraine [13:51] CrystalMath he both likes shiny western stuff and the "brotherhood" or germanic nations [13:51] CrystalMath *of [13:51] XRevan86 But yes, like I said earlier today, there are neo-Nazis fighting for either side. [13:51] XRevan86 CrystalMath: Germanic nations? That's not a very relevant neo-Nazi, eh. [13:52] CrystalMath Denis Pushilin voted for joining russia [13:52] XRevan86 CrystalMath: "kherson may actually fail its referendum" <- It won't. [13:53] frog watching parliament debate, again they say, it was supposedly "energy saved"... wrong. [13:53] CrystalMath with a million people total, and we know at least 400k hate russia... [13:53] frog energy which i did not consume and is billed regardless cannot be saved. [13:54] XRevan86 These "referendums" are not transparent, they're not going to produce the undesired result. [13:56] MinceR and now the other nazi starts trying to distract by pinning the "nazi" label on everyone else [13:56] MinceR how predictable [13:59] XRevan86 CrystalMath: Do ye know how this "referendum" is going to go? Worse than this: https://meduza.io/en/feature/2022/08/12/17-1-million-stuffed-ballots [13:59] -TechPolBot/#techpol-meduza.io | NO TITLE [13:59] frog the "international community" already decided, "will not accept the referendum" ... regardless of the election results? [13:59] MinceR the "international community" is not as stupid as you hope them to be [13:59] MinceR they know what happened in the previous sham "referenda" ● Sep 23 [14:00] MinceR they know putler is going to do the exact same thing [14:00] XRevan86 frog: It would've been weird if it were considered illegitimate only if no one likes the outcome. [14:01] frog i do agree, a regular federal election, which Minsk agreement insisted, under normal circuumstances, is different [14:01] XRevan86 It's illegitimate because of the bogus procedure, exclusion of the part of the population from participation, the violation of sovereign law of Ukraine, and I'm probably forgetting something else. [14:02] frog i mean, this "international community", rejects international law and negotiations now? in advance of any election result announced? [14:02] XRevan86 frog: This "referendum" is *not* in accordance to international law. In advance, regardless of the result. [14:03] frog XRevan86: minsk agreement _is_ the legal frame of international law itself [14:03] XRevan86 frog: Minsk agreement doesn't even allow a referendum to join Russia. [14:04] frog question is, if any such referendum fullfilled it, the demands for federal elections [14:04] XRevan86 Federalisation != ability to secede [14:04] MinceR > probably forgetting something else. [14:04] MinceR there's the whole "at gunpoint" thing [14:05] MinceR and if it's like crimea, then even the set of options is going to be fraudulent [14:05] frog XRevan86: slightly disagree, in any case, the _central_ governement in Kiev has no authority over federal election results [14:05] frog federal states, elect their governors, themselves [14:06] XRevan86 frog: So California can elect Putin as their governor? [14:06] XRevan86 Didn't know that's an option. [14:06] frog besides, "international community" has no authority over federal election results either, in opposition to the "right of self-determination" [14:07] CrystalMath silly frog, self-determination is only for ichkeria and kosovo [14:07] *psydroid2 (~psydroid@memzbmehf99re.irc) has joined #techpol [14:07] CrystalMath and anyone who doesn't want to live in gaddafi's libya [14:07] XRevan86 "then even the set of options is going to be fraudulent" <- It's "do ye want X to join Russia" and yes/no [14:07] *psydruid (~psydruid@jevhxkzmtrbww.irc) has joined #techpol [14:07] CrystalMath people who DO want to live under communism need to be crushed under a heavy boot [14:07] CrystalMath this is how the western mind works [14:08] frog CrystalMath: anyway, a _democratic_ vote, always, recognizes the minority too, with a fair representation of their interests [14:08] MinceR 23 150736 < CrystalMath> people who DO want to live under communism need to be crushed under a heavy boot [14:08] XRevan86 CrystalMath: So the West doesn't respect Russian sovereignty over Checha? Is that what ye are saying? [14:08] MinceR that _is_ what those people are asking for [14:08] CrystalMath MinceR: not according to them [14:08] CrystalMath some people love communism and believe it to be freedom [14:08] frog with the referendum, it's ludicrous, "yes" "no", instead of proposing governors for those regions, to choose from [14:08] CrystalMath free education, free healthcare, etc.. [14:09] MinceR some people are idiots, ask for idiotic things and get surprised when they get what they asked for. film at 1.. [14:09] MinceR s/1\./11/ [14:09] XRevan86 frog: It's not about the governors, it's about annexation of the territory by Russia. [14:09] CrystalMath MinceR: no the problem is that they are denied the right to secede if they want to make a communist country [14:09] MinceR also, none of those things are free [14:09] CrystalMath MinceR: look, this is what's in their heads, they don't want to not be free [14:09] frog XRevan86: _central_ government in Kiev (a Chunta), has no authority over _federal_ states either [14:09] MinceR CrystalMath: the territories you keep harping about do _not_ want to "make a communist country", or even really "secede" [14:10] MinceR CrystalMath: putler wants to _annex_ them to _orcland_ [14:10] MinceR that is not independence and that is not making new countries [14:10] CrystalMath DPR and LPR people actually use communist flags all the time [14:10] CrystalMath and call people "comrade" [14:10] XRevan86 frog: _Central_ government in Moscow (a Junta), has all the authority over _federal_ states. [14:10] MinceR and vladolf dreams about restoring the USSR [14:10] MinceR so what else is new? [14:10] XRevan86 Putin is not a Communist, for the record. [14:11] scientes -TechPolBot/#techpol- (@henkvaness): "We invite all Russian citizens to vote in our referendum to become part of the Netherlands. #Russia #RussiaUkraineWar #UkraineRussiaWar #Ukraine #UkraineInvasion (share!) Via @arjenlubach"|nitter.it [14:11] CrystalMath XRevan86: it's so tight that kadyrov once said that FSB agents aren't allowed in chechnya without permission [14:11] scientes XRevan86, heh [14:11] MinceR he, like any modern ruscist, is both a nazi and a stalinist [14:11] scientes XRevan86, there was also a Chomsky-led movie about Basque entering confederate helvetica (switzerland) [14:11] MinceR the likes of united russia, fideath and the CPC are getting along very well [14:11] CrystalMath MinceR: but if they join russia, they won't have their communist dream [14:11] scientes that was making fun of those stupid catalans [14:11] MinceR CrystalMath: tell them, then. [14:11] XRevan86 CrystalMath: Yes, he did. [14:11] scientes actually, I have no evience of the link [14:11] MinceR but they won't have it anyway. [14:12] scientes but it wouldn't suprise me [14:12] MinceR nobody has ever managed to implement what you're talking about [14:12] MinceR every time it invariably led to stalinism [14:12] MinceR and putler's system is a descendant of stalinism [14:12] scientes MinceR, you have no idea what you are talking about [14:12] scientes MinceR, maybe you should move to russia [14:12] MinceR besides, it's really pointless to try and nitpick about the differences in totalitarian systems, since they all come from the whims of the rulers [14:13] MinceR scientes: no, you should move to orcland if you love it so much [14:13] XRevan86 MinceR: He did %) [14:13] CrystalMath is scientes not there? [14:13] MinceR and once putler shuts down internet connectivity to the outside, you won't be able to bother us anymore. [14:13] CrystalMath yeah, scientes doesn't just talk, he is actually there now [14:13] MinceR CrystalMath: why are you not there? [14:13] CrystalMath because i'm slowly moving to mexico [14:13] CrystalMath at a speed of 1mm/year [14:13] MinceR why won't all the authoritarians just move to the already existing authoritarian states instead of trying to fuck up the rest of the planet? [14:14] MinceR there's plenty of space in siberia for all of you [14:14] CrystalMath MinceR: i think we once talked about it, and i found out that you would want to invade any place i go to [14:14] MinceR it will even thaw soon, thanks to vladolf's efforts [14:14] *psydruid (~psydruid@jevhxkzmtrbww.irc) has left #techpol [14:14] frog allright, let's summarize, what this "international community" insists on: weapons supplies, no elections, in violation of "international law"/minsk agreement which demands cease fire, retreat and elections. [14:14] MinceR CrystalMath: what else have you dreamed? [14:14] MinceR and aggi is lying as usual [14:14] CrystalMath MinceR: maybe it was someone else? [14:15] MinceR could be [14:15] *psydruid (~psydruid@jevhxkzmtrbww.irc) has joined #techpol [14:15] XRevan86 https://nitter.it/TpyxaNews/status/1573296815272873987 There's something special about that it's the people like Semyon Pegov (WarGonzo) that publish this. [14:15] -TechPolBot/#techpol-English (@TpyxaNews): "Referendum in Donetsk"|nitter.it [14:16] XRevan86 MinceR: "to the already existing authoritarian states" <- There's a flaw in your plan: authoritarian states tend to collapse. [14:17] scientes XRevan86, and Putin said that in his 2007 Munich speech [14:17] MinceR XRevan86: not my problem [14:17] scientes right next to Angela Merkel, who folded to the gay [14:17] scientes (not unexpectedly) [14:17] XRevan86 scientes: That authoritarian states tend to collapse? [14:17] MinceR XRevan86: stalinism has led to the collapse of any state that held itself to it strictly. does this stop stalinists from wanting to try over and over again? no. [14:18] CrystalMath XRevan86: especially when F-16s bomb them [14:18] CrystalMath XRevan86: but very rarely when they have nukes [14:18] scientes it was in English, let me look it up [14:18] XRevan86 scientes: That does seem like something he'd say. [14:18] CrystalMath XRevan86: example, North Korea [14:18] XRevan86 Over the years Putin has condemned many things that he will later do. [14:19] MinceR just like fideath [14:19] MinceR a few months ago they were poking fun at europeans thinking about lowering heating in public institutions to 19C [14:20] MinceR recently they announced that they would lower heating in public institutions... to 18C [14:20] XRevan86 Putin said that overstaying in office is bad and evil. Putin said that he would never change the Constitution. Putin said that extending the retirement age is something he'd never do. [14:21] MinceR in the april "elections", fidSS campaigned with the allegation that if the opposition won, they'd eliminate their utilities cost reduction program [14:22] MinceR something they'd never do. [14:22] MinceR and orban said that his subservience to putler is the only way we can have low utilities cost [14:22] MinceR recently, they've pretty much ended the utilities cost reduction program [14:24] scientes XRevan86, ok it was this: [14:24] scientes It is world in which there is one master, one sovereign. And at the end of the day this is pernicious not only for all those within this system, but also for the sovereign itself because it destroys itself from within. [14:25] scientes so good I looked it up [14:25] MinceR i'm sure they'd pretend that some of their underlings are sovereign [14:25] scientes what he is saying is certainly true of the US [14:25] MinceR they'd pretend that orban was not ordered around by putler [14:25] scientes that sentence [14:25] MinceR or (after orcland's fall) that putler was not ordered around by xi jinping [14:26] MinceR some people would even believe it [14:26] scientes MinceR, yeah, is Putin Winnie the Pooh? [14:26] scientes Egor? [14:26] XRevan86 Russia is the place where the men born under Putin can die for Putin. [14:27] scientes https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l3yhBEQlH_Y [14:27] -TechPolBot/#techpol-@Invidious: https://yt.artemislena.eu/watch?v=l3yhBEQlH_Y [14:27] -TechPolBot/#techpol--> yt.artemislena.eu | Winnie Pooh / - with Russian & English subtitles - Invidious [14:27] XRevan86 Putin is the only reality they've ever known. [14:27] scientes XRevan86, same happened with Bush [14:27] XRevan86 scientes: Sr. and Jr.? [14:27] scientes ecept that he didn't actually make the decisions [14:27] scientes so it is woorse [14:27] scientes and what about places with monarchs? [14:27] scientes what about all the people that were born and died under Elizabeth II? [14:28] scientes or George VI? [14:28] scientes or Fhillip VI? [14:28] XRevan86 scientes: Not great. [14:28] MinceR people seem to generally believe that elizabeth II had no real power at all [14:28] MinceR which is incorrect [14:28] MinceR but in reality, the extent of the monarch's power in the UK seems unclear [14:28] scientes and why the hell did that japaneese princess get courted with involvement of someone with no ties at all to japan? [14:29] XRevan86 https://bloomberg.com/news/articles/2022-09-23/putin-readies-43-defense-spending-hike-amid-plan-for-longer-war?leadSource=uverify%20wall [14:29] -TechPolBot/#techpol-Bloomberg - Are you a robot? [14:29] MinceR for example, if the monarch dissolved parliament because they disagreed, would the parliament obey or would they depose the monarch and announce the republic? [14:29] scientes MinceR, well they can't be very good when you have a fruitcake on the throne!!!! [14:29] frog "annexion", too is a weird interpretation, given the fact, Russians already lived there long before [14:29] MinceR lol [14:29] XRevan86 "Putin Readies 43% Defence Spending Hike Amid Plan for Longer War" [14:29] scientes frog, and they still live there [14:29] scientes and they have always lived there [14:29] frog and what would the alternative be, to the referendum? none at all, and Kiev central government dictating? [14:29] MinceR frog: ok, then i guess i'll annex germany. hungarians already live there. [14:29] frog Minsk agreement insisted on _federal_ elections, independent from the central government [14:30] scientes frog, have you wanted the videos about the coups and also the succession of Lugansk and Donetsk? [14:30] scientes I saw the same type of shit in Batumi [14:30] MinceR the Budapest Memorandum insisted that orcland has no territorial demands of ukraine [14:30] scientes in Batumi the old-style ATMsdon't need armed guards, but the new ones do [14:30] MinceR so what the fuck are their terrorists doing in ukraine? [14:31] scientes MinceR, blowing shit up with NATO weapons [14:31] XRevan86 https://meduza.io/en/feature/2022/09/23/russia-to-conscript-up-to-1-2-million-people "Source: Russia to conscript 1.2 million people" [14:31] -TechPolBot/#techpol-meduza.io | NO TITLE [14:31] MinceR scientes: do the old-style ATMs have money in them? [14:31] MinceR scientes: also, what the fuck are you talking about? [14:31] scientes MinceR, plenty [14:32] scientes MinceR, the difference is that the old-style are the maffia ones, and they don't hook up to visa and mastercard [14:32] scientes (or Mir for that matter) [14:32] MinceR ic [14:32] scientes also UnionPay got pushed out of Georgia while I was there [14:32] scientes fucking fascists [14:32] scientes the hypocricy of the liberals knows no limits [14:32] frog the problem i see is this, the Kiev _central_ government and their "international community" have no authority over the mentioned oblasts and their elections [14:33] MinceR the problem i see is that there are too many fucking authoritarian people on this planet [14:33] MinceR and they can never settle for fucking up their own lives, they've also got to fuck up mine [14:33] frog the federal states may participate in _national_ elections of Ukraine still, yet at the federal election level Zelenskij and his "international community" has exactly that much authority: Zero [14:33] scientes frog, also no gold [14:34] scientes they have already robbed the country blind [14:34] scientes vultures [14:34] frog scientes: who? [14:34] scientes I am sure they sent it to china [14:34] scientes to satisify CHomsky heroin addiction (fentanyl) [14:37] MinceR fentanyl is not heroin [14:37] scientes MinceR, they both are neutralize by nalozone [14:38] MinceR pretty much everything on earth would be neutralized by a black hole [14:39] scientes MinceR, what about a really small black hole? [14:40] MinceR less likely [14:40] scientes and what about Hawking radiation? [14:40] scientes which makes black holes much less black [14:40] scientes and more like grey holes or something [14:41] MinceR :) [14:41] MinceR not really, it just makes them evaporate and shrink [14:42] MinceR it's insignificant next to the radiation emitted by the accretion disk, usually [14:42] frog scientes: which videos? ● Sep 23 [15:03] TR News Orban running out of buddies https://telex.hu/english/2022/09/22/because-of-ukraine-the-polish-and-hungarian-governments-are-not-so-good-friends-anymore | Source: Telex (Hungary) [15:03] -TechPolBot/#techpol-telex.hu | Telex: The Polish-Hungarian friendship is not what it used to be on account of Ukraine [15:05] TR News "Oh, Fifth Circuit Court of Appeals. Whatever will you do next?" https://www.techdirt.com/2022/09/22/5th-circuit-awards-immunity-to-cop-who-decided-a-suicidal-man-should-be-tased-while-he-had-a-noose-around-his-neck/ | Source: Techdirt [15:05] -TechPolBot/#techpol-5th Circuit Awards Immunity To Cop Who Decided A Suicidal Man Should Be Tased While He Had A Noose Around His Neck | Techdirt [15:08] TR News Caitlin Johnstone https://scheerpost.com/2022/09/22/caitlin-johnstone-americas-perverse-poverty-draft/ | Source: Scheerpost [15:08] -TechPolBot/#techpol-Caitlin Johnstone: Americas Perverse Poverty Draft scheerpost.com [15:08] TR News Pentagon https://scheerpost.com/2022/09/22/the-pentagon-is-waging-war-on-planet-earth/ | Source: Scheerpost [15:08] -TechPolBot/#techpol-The Pentagon Is Waging War on Planet Earth scheerpost.com [15:10] TR News The monarchy cannot rebut critics; it just crushes them https://truthout.org/articles/queens-funeral-in-uk-set-off-harsh-crackdowns-against-critics-of-monarchy/ | Source: TruthOut [15:10] -TechPolBot/#techpol-truthout.org | Queens Funeral in UK Set Off Harsh Crackdowns Against Critics of Monarchy [15:11] TR News More unions https://truthout.org/articles/congressional-staffers-are-holding-their-first-ever-union-vote/ | Source: TruthOut [15:11] -TechPolBot/#techpol-truthout.org | Congressional Staffers Are Holding Their First-Ever Union Vote [15:13] TR News "By declaring referenda in four Ukrainian regions and vowing to defend new Russian territory with all means necessary" https://scheerpost.com/2022/09/22/how-the-war-changed-overnight/ | Source: Scheerpost [15:13] -TechPolBot/#techpol-How the Ukraine War Changed Overnight scheerpost.com [15:15] TR News "Marjorie Cohn writes about state government and right to abortion from constitutional protection." https://scheerpost.com/2022/09/22/states-need-constitutional-amendments-to-protect-abortion-from-right-wing-judges/ | Source: Scheerpost [15:15] -TechPolBot/#techpol-States Need Constitutional Amendments to Protect Abortion From Right-Wing Judges scheerpost.com [15:17] TR News Tish James https://www.thenation.com/article/politics/tish-james-sues-trump-kids/ | Source: The Nation [15:18] -TechPolBot/#techpol-www.thenation.com | Tish James Got the Goods on the Trump Family GriftNow What? | The Nation [15:18] TR News "This resolution is very simple and straightforward" https://www.commondreams.org/news/2022/09/22/sanders-blasts-gop-opposing-resolution-warning-against-military-coup-brazil | Source: Common Dreams [15:18] -TechPolBot/#techpol-www.commondreams.org | Sanders Blasts GOP for Opposing Resolution Warning Against Military Coup in Brazil [15:25] TR News Chomsky on Russia https://truthout.org/articles/noam-chomsky-the-war-in-ukraine-has-entered-a-new-phase/ | Source: TruthOut [15:25] -TechPolBot/#techpol-truthout.org | Noam Chomsky: The War in Ukraine Has Entered a New Phase [15:27] TR News When an empire falls https://www.counterpunch.org/2022/09/22/what-do-americans-care-about-not-a-cold-war-with-russia-and-china/ | Source: Counter Punch [15:27] -TechPolBot/#techpol-What Do Americans Care About? Not a Cold War With Russia and China - CounterPunch.org [15:27] TR News IAEA https://www.counterpunch.org/2022/09/22/active-today-or-radioactive-tomorrow/ | Source: Counter Punch [15:27] -TechPolBot/#techpol-Active Today or Radioactive Tomorrow? - CounterPunch.org [15:34] *frog has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [15:39] *frog (~frog@zy5wq78taf9dq.irc) has joined #techpol ● Sep 23 [16:17] TR News "Verra, which runs a carbon crediting standard used by hundreds of companies to offset their carbon dioxide emissions" https://www.desmog.com/2022/09/22/renewed-tensions-hit-drive-to-reform-opaque-trade-in-carbon-offsets/ | Source: DeSmog [16:17] -TechPolBot/#techpol-Renewed Tensions Hit Drive to Reform Opaque Trade in Carbon Offsets - DeSmog [16:28] TR News No diplomacy? https://www.commondreams.org/views/2022/09/22/putin-escalation-makes-diplomacy-measures-more-urgent | Source: Common Dreams [16:28] -TechPolBot/#techpol-www.commondreams.org | Opinion | Putin Escalation Makes Diplomacy Measures More Urgent | Anatol Lieven [16:49] XRevan86 https://t.me/pravdaGerashchenko_en/19172 ( https://nitter.it/Gerashchenko_en/status/1573309626673668098 ) [16:49] -TechPolBot/#techpol-t.me | Telegram: Contact @pravdaGerashchenko_en [16:49] -TechPolBot/#techpol-Anton Gerashchenko (@Gerashchenko_en): "Residents of temporarily occupied Snihurivka in Mykolaiv region came out to protest against the "referendum". Our people are so incredibly brave. They are not afraid to speak up even in occupation. Thank you, Heroes!"|nitter.it [16:49] XRevan86 https://t.me/pravdaGerashchenko_en/19174 ( https://nitter.it/Gerashchenko_en/status/1573325430320672768 ) [16:49] -TechPolBot/#techpol-t.me | Telegram: Contact @pravdaGerashchenko_en [16:49] -TechPolBot/#techpol-Anton Gerashchenko (@Gerashchenko_en): "A woman is trying to engage locals on temporarily occupied territories to vote in the "referendum". : donbassr/Telegram"|nitter.it [16:49] XRevan86 https://themoscowtimes.com/2022/09/23/a78878 [16:49] -TechPolBot/#techpol-www.themoscowtimes.com | Armed Russian Proxies in Ukraine Pressure Locals to Vote on Annexation Official - The Moscow Times ● Sep 23 [17:21] schestowitz[tr3] "referendum" [17:21] schestowitz[tr3] organised by a violent occupier [17:21] schestowitz[tr3] rapist to rape victim: [17:22] schestowitz[tr3] are you OK with [something here]? [17:25] frog on TV they showed, russian soldiers protected voters, and seek to reach _all_ inhabitants by visiting their homes [17:25] frog to vote, either yes or no; [17:25] frog the question, with regards to the "referendum" won't be, if the "international community" recognized it [17:26] schestowitz[tr3] lol [17:26] schestowitz[tr3] tv? [17:26] schestowitz[tr3] or rt? [17:26] frog no phoenix.de [17:26] schestowitz[tr3] so they attack a city [17:26] schestowitz[tr3] and then protect it? [17:26] schestowitz[tr3] after attacking it? [17:26] XRevan86 they say: "voting at gunpoint", we say: "protected voters" [17:27] frog the question will be, how the minority vote will be coped with, because a legitimate/democractic referendum _must_ recognize minority interests [17:27] frog assuming if, the "No" votes accumulate to 30% or something, or less such as 5%, even then, the minority has to be protected and represented with their interests [17:28] frog and this is an important criteria, to recognize the referendum or not [17:28] XRevan86 https://nitter.it/JuliaDavisNews/status/1573307467337191426 Come on, Julia, why didn't ye link to the Meduza's article? [17:28] -TechPolBot/#techpol-Julia Davis (@JuliaDavisNews): "This is their mindset, no doubt. See below for my Tweet from May."|nitter.it [17:33] frog assuming if, the referendum was reasonable (Minsk agreement), how else should any referendum be arranged [17:34] frog as many voters as possible must vote, for a sufficient legitimacy, and to my knowledge the Kiev Junta was neither willing to nor capable of any referendum and protecting voters [17:35] frog the alternative, to the referendum, whatever you think of it, could be worse, than none thereof, with endless disputes and aggressions [17:35] XRevan86 A lot of the population is currently busy being refugees. [17:35] XRevan86 Not exactly able to participate in this nonsense. [17:36] frog XRevan86: another argument, to support a referendum, to count the inhabitants, and estimate who is missing [17:36] frog or, whoever else may wish to vote, and couldn't before... what would they fear, Zelenskij, and his "international community", whoever they are [17:38] frog instead of sabotaging the referendum, "international community" and their shareholders too could have supported it, insisting democratic rules were complied with, and voters being protected [17:38] frog too, Zelesnkij could have said this, he didn't. [17:38] XRevan86 "insisting democratic rules were complied with" <- I have an incredibly simple but effective counter-argument. [17:38] XRevan86 frog: Look at the elections in Russia. [17:39] frog instead, in violation of Minsk agreement, and in violation of international law, this "international community" agitates for weapons supplies [17:39] XRevan86 They are internationally recognised and everything, but eventually all the international and independent observers were pushed away and it's all a big sham. [17:39] frog XRevan86: just have a look at EU elections, and how "madame president Ursula" was "elected" [17:40] frog or Madame Merkel, having lost, 2017 already, and remaining in office another 4 years, 16 years in total [17:41] frog i do agree, the election must be observed, and in particular how the minority vote is treated [17:45] XRevan86 frog: https://youtu.be/Q-ORMgOYtOI [17:45] -TechPolBot/#techpol-@Invidious: https://invidious.osi.kr/watch?v=Q-ORMgOYtOI [17:45] -TechPolBot/#techpol- ( status 502 @ https://invidious.osi.kr/watch?v=Q-ORMgOYtOI ) [17:45] XRevan86 frog: Is this how "madame president Ursula" was "elected"? [17:45] frog XRevan86: i don't watch youtube videos [17:45] XRevan86 frog: I can upload it to catbox.moe, will that be suitable to your sensitive disposition? [17:46] frog madame president was never elected by anyone in Europe [17:46] frog XRevan86: i do know how madame ursula was "elected" [17:46] XRevan86 frog: And I know how elections are conducted in Russia. [17:46] frog all i am saying is, judge russian federation by the same standards [17:47] XRevan86 frog: All I am saying is, democratic procedure was never an option, the votes will be counted the way that is suitable to Putin. [17:47] XRevan86 It's an objective fact. [17:48] frog even then, this doesn't change the fact, there is a minority living in eastern urkaine, and the treatment of this minority and their interests [17:48] frog this is the criteria, i would propose instead [17:48] XRevan86 The "referendum" has nothing to do with the people living in Ukraine. [17:49] XRevan86 And odds are, after the "referendum" is done, the men from there will be grabbed and sent to the front to die. [17:49] frog because, given my memories, about 1990, and treatment of minorities by "EU" and the "international community", those have no word to say about any "referendum" anymore [17:49] frog reminder, in east germany, there wasn't none [17:50] frog instead, they replaced all leading political staff, with western minions, replaced all university rectorates with western minions [17:50] frog expropriated the entire industry, etc. etc. etc. [17:50] frog and by those exact same standards, i will, judge for myself, what to think about this referendum in Ukraine [17:51] XRevan86 frog: Ye will judge and they will die. [17:52] frog "the men from there will be grabbed and sent to the front to die" [17:53] MinceR 23 182517 < frog> on TV they showed, russian soldiers protected voters, and seek to reach _all_ inhabitants by visiting their homes [17:53] MinceR translation: russian soldiers were present to force everyone to vote putler's way [17:54] XRevan86 No one promised the secrecy of voting. [17:54] XRevan86 And it's pretty hard to vote secretly on a bench regardless. [17:54] frog are there any observers in this region? [17:54] XRevan86 frog: United Russia [17:55] XRevan86 In some places. [17:55] XRevan86 So no. [17:55] XRevan86 https://meduza.io/en/feature/2022/09/23/a-ritual-with-a-known-outcome "A ritual with a known outcome. Behind the scenes of the Kremlins sham referendums" [17:55] -TechPolBot/#techpol-meduza.io | NO TITLE [17:57] XRevan86 > On the first day of voting, occupation authorities will open a small number of polling stations and mobilize pro-annexation residents there. This, the sources said, will allow Russias propaganda outlets to disseminate photos of long lines of people waiting to vote, suggesting a high turnout. These kinds of images have already appeared in the Russian state media. [17:58] XRevan86 Yes, I've even posted some here. [17:58] XRevan86 > In the DNR and LNR: about 90 percent of voters supporting annexation, with a turnout of about 90 percent [17:58] XRevan86 > In the occupied territories of the Kherson and Zaporizhzhia regions: about 90 percent of voters supporting annexation, with a turnout of about 80 percent [17:59] XRevan86 We'll see, I thought they'd go for more conservative numbers in Kherson and Zaporizhzhia regions. [17:59] MinceR did you expect the empire of the 146% to go for conservative numbers? ● Sep 23 [18:00] XRevan86 MinceR: When the whole thing was still in brainstorm mode they were planning 70/70. [18:00] MinceR :> [18:01] XRevan86 > One of the sources also said that the Kremlin isnt counting on the annexation increasing domestic support for the Russian authorities: Most people dont give a fuck about the Donbas. People are worried about mobilization right now. [18:01] XRevan86 Factual. [18:12] frog MinceR: i am not aware yet, Russians forced anyone to vote "yes", and i mean exactly what i say, i do not know of anyone. [18:12] frog that's why, it is important to observe, how any minority vote was treated, even when, it is 20% of the population who said "no". [18:13] frog an too, thats the reason why, any iregularities may be less releven, if, and only if, the minority is respected with their decision. [18:13] frog *relevant [18:23] MinceR 23 191214 < frog> MinceR: i am not aware yet, Russians forced anyone to vote "yes", and i mean exactly what i say, i do not know of anyone. [18:23] MinceR oh, they didn't tell you? there's a shocker! [18:24] MinceR obviously, if vladolf didn't brag about something, it didn't happen. [18:24] frog no, i haven't been there, to observe the referendum myself, and i do not trust the "international community" propaganda rubbish [18:24] MinceR no, you trust the ruscist propaganda rubbish [18:25] frog the exact same "international community" who proposes "weapons supplies" and denying elections, in VIOLATION of the minsk agreement, which is the legally binding international contract [18:25] MinceR and you're unable to even reason about what is in certain people's interest to say, or not to say [18:25] MinceR and what is the budapest memorandum? decoration on toilet paper? [18:25] MinceR also, i get the impression that you are seriously challenged when it comes to understanding the minsk agreement [18:28] frog Putin himself cited UN charta chapter 51, although i too admit international law and the UN charta as a whole apply then [18:29] MinceR and you believe every word that comes out of his piehole [18:29] frog of cause not [18:29] MinceR ah, so you only pretend to do so, to waste our time [18:29] frog however, russian reporting is almost absent here, in "EU" with it's "free press" [18:30] frog currently, i am waiting for a build job to finish... and am not occupied until it passed [18:30] frog in parallel i am reading newspaper, and follow daily reporting [18:30] frog and this channel now. [18:31] MinceR yeah, i can see how "absent" it is, with several IRC channels being clogged with it, and the hungarian (EU member) party-state propaganda machinery ("media") shouting it on every channel [18:31] MinceR poor little vladolf, his voice is not heard [18:32] MinceR it's like that time when the poor, powerless, little president of the USA was oppressed and couldn't get his voice heard [18:32] MinceR how the fuck am i supposed to have sympathy for such lying, sociopathic, subhuman monsters? [18:32] frog allright, i mean it, the speeches of Biden are broadcasted in full length often, even on german tv [18:32] frog Putin isn't [18:32] frog yes, this is exactly, what it is. [18:33] MinceR i have yet to see a single speech of biden being spammed on this IRC network [18:33] MinceR maybe i'm not in the right channels? [18:33] MinceR i have also yet to see a single speech of biden being broadcast in hungary [18:33] frog in germany they are, on phoenix.de channel [18:33] frog too, yesterday, they broadcasted the "UN security council" meeting in full length [18:34] MinceR did someone force poor little aggi to watch it? [18:34] MinceR was it so moving that you almost changed your religion? [18:34] frog well, how should i say, it opened my eyes, again, what to think of this "international community" [18:34] MinceR i'm sure [18:50] XRevan86 "in VIOLATION of the minsk agreement, which is the legally binding international contract" <- And again, none of this has any relation to the Minsk agreements whatsoever. I think even CrystalMath would agree. [18:51] XRevan86 "however, russian reporting is almost absent here" <- It's not, ye just don't visit the links. [18:51] MinceR he's not consistent so i wouldn't trust him even with that [18:51] frog Minsk agreement 1) retreat, of weapons, cease fire. 2) elections, to keep it brief [18:51] frog in comparison "international community" "weapons supplies for ukraine" [18:52] frog another one, "international community" "we won't recognize the referendum" [18:52] frog it is a sham, even when it hasn't started yet [18:52] MinceR there's no referendum to recognize [18:52] *DaemonFC (~daemonfc@58nejqa2kp9h2.irc) has joined #techpol [18:52] XRevan86 frog: Minsk agreements talked about re-elections in Ukraine after reintegration of "DPR"/"LPR" back into Ukraine. [18:53] XRevan86 Besides, they're null and void after the invasion anyway. [18:53] XRevan86 There's literally no point in talking about Minsk agreements in anything but past tense. [18:55] XRevan86 frog: If ye can't understand that, think of it this way: they're called Minsk *agreements* because Ukraine and Russia *agreed* on them. [18:55] XRevan86 Ukraine literally would never agree to what ye are suggesting they did. [18:56] frog Zelesnkij, is NOT ukraine [18:56] frog and the "international community" is not ukraine either [18:56] XRevan86 Poroshenko's administration would agree to annexation? [18:56] MinceR neither are you [18:56] MinceR and neither is putler [18:56] frog in Donbas, election results were... remember? [18:57] MinceR was that election a referendum on whether to self-annex to russia? [18:57] XRevan86 MinceR: frog is trying to tell us that in 2014 and 2015 Ukraine agreed to a clause that can lead to Russia annexing 15% of its territory. [18:58] MinceR XRevan86: hard to believe [18:58] XRevan86 MinceR: Because it only exists in his delusioned mind. [18:58] MinceR XRevan86: but it is in line with the rest of aggi's lies ● Sep 23 [19:00] frog another prognosis is this: "Putin will continue if he wins" N. Roettgen, Atlantic Bridge [19:00] XRevan86 MinceR: The crazy thing is that this is so stupid even Russia is not trying to make this argument. [19:00] XRevan86 MinceR: And Russia's approach to argumentation is "everything goes". [19:01] MinceR XRevan86: you can see that orcland has munchkins to do it for them [19:02] MinceR all day, every day, even on holidays [19:02] XRevan86 Russia's high ranking officials were talking about the development of viruses of sterilisation, but even they never interpreted the Minsk agreements this way. [19:02] MinceR frog: that's a pointless prognosis, as he has already lost [19:02] MinceR his economy is gone, the richer half of the world has turned its back on him, many of the subjects fled, he's feeding the rest into a blender [19:03] MinceR it is now obvious to everyone that the orcish army is a paper tiger [19:08] XRevan86 https://theins.press/en/news/255368 [19:08] -TechPolBot/#techpol-theins.press | Theres no jumping ship. You and I are all f*cked. Russian conscripts trained for war in Ukraine [19:10] XRevan86 (video) https://nitter.it/TpyxaNews/status/1573357383468056576 [19:10] -TechPolBot/#techpol-English (@TpyxaNews): "Russian pseudo-referendum under machine guns"|nitter.it [19:13] MinceR "voting" at gunpoint. how cute. [19:49] *frog has quit (connection closed) [19:49] *frog (~frog@6v8cjbvydcdre.irc) has joined #techpol [19:58] XRevan86 > "China's position on Ukraine is clear," Wang said. "The sovereignty, territorial integrity of all countries should be respected and the reasonable security concerns of all countries should be taken seriously." [19:58] XRevan86 CrystalMath: ^ Comment? ● Sep 23 [20:02] MinceR everyone will interpret that according to their own whims [20:02] MinceR it is close to saying nothing [20:02] MinceR red china is trying to play both sides at the same time [20:03] MinceR (which is not new) [20:03] XRevan86 MinceR: While also directly contradicting our mathy guy. [20:04] MinceR will our mathy guy notice? [20:04] XRevan86 MinceR: If I can help it. [20:06] XRevan86 https://theins.press/en/news/255371 No photographs, but I've seen some yesterday, and from the rotten corpses it's hard to make things out, and if it's hard for me it would be impossible for CrystlMath and frg anyway. [20:06] -TechPolBot/#techpol-theins.press | 436 bodies exhumed in Izium, mostly civilians who died a violent death [20:09] XRevan86 Did someone here say that the Kherson and Zaporizhzhia "referendum" ballots only have leaving Ukraine? I forgot who said that to me. [20:09] XRevan86 Regardless, that's not true. It's the whole package. [20:10] MinceR it's probably the same bullshit as the Crimea ones [20:10] MinceR something like "do we just leave ukraine now or also join russia?" [20:10] XRevan86 https://t.me/rian_ru/178890?single Photograph of a Zaporizhzhia ballot. [20:10] -TechPolBot/#techpol-t.me | Telegram: Contact @rian_ru [20:11] XRevan86 "Are ye for the secession of the Zaporizhzhia region from Ukraine, formation of an independent state by the Zaporizhzhia region and it joining the Russian Federation as a subject of the Russian Federation?" [20:12] MinceR can't view it [20:12] MinceR telegram sucks [20:12] XRevan86 MinceR: It's in Russian and Ukrainian (both) anyway. [20:13] MinceR at least they can say "no" this time [20:14] MinceR i guess they realized that it looks better and people won't dare do it with the warm AK barrel pressed against their temples anyway [20:14] XRevan86 MinceR: Secrecy is not ensured. [20:14] XRevan86 MinceR: Pretty much. [20:14] MinceR they might as well just say "from now on, vladolf owns you and everything in this area" [20:16] XRevan86 MinceR: A lot of men are scared shitless in Kherzon and Zaporizhzhia right now. [20:16] *starstreak (~starstreak@muarsy2vret2q.irc) has joined #techpol [20:16] MinceR understandable [20:16] MinceR the only thing that i wonder about is why didn't they leave already? [20:16] XRevan86 "DPR"/"LPR" are already mobilised, so nothing new there. [20:16] XRevan86 MinceR: They're trying, it's not an easy feat. [20:17] XRevan86 The route is to Crimea and then to Georgia. [20:17] MinceR it would have been a lot less painful to just have everyone leave ukraine to the west, nuke orcland into nonexistence, occupy what's left of orcland, let the people move back and set up the extraction of fossil fuels from orcland to the west. [20:18] XRevan86 MinceR: I hope ye are not in any decision making position %) [20:18] MinceR oh, also, round up and kill every orcish soldier in ukraine, of course [20:18] MinceR important step [20:18] MinceR sadly i am not [20:18] MinceR so instead we have hundreds of thousands being ground up slowly and genocides [20:19] MinceR and most likely putler will manage to strike first with nuclear weapons [20:19] MinceR which will be _very_ costly and painful for everyone else [20:19] XRevan86 MinceR: Remember when people feared he'd using a tactical nuke against Mariupol? [20:20] MinceR he's been constantly saber-rattling for decades [20:20] MinceR but he also sounded like someone who's deluded enough to believe he could possibly win [20:20] MinceR i expect that eventually he'll realize that he lost and then what he talked about will be put into action [20:20] MinceR https://archive.ph/qbcTT [20:20] -TechPolBot/#techpol-archive.ph | After nuclear holocaust, well go to heaven as martyrs; attackers will die as sinners Putin RT World News [20:20] MinceR i would hope the west doesn't wait for this to happen [20:21] MinceR but considering their usual dickless approach, they will [20:21] MinceR then again, the defense mechanisms could technically work [20:21] XRevan86 MinceR: Of course they should be more firm, but your way is too firm. [20:21] MinceR and it's possible that putler's nuclear arsenal is as functional as his military [20:21] MinceR i would hope the west has better intel to work with [20:22] MinceR where the orcish nuclear arsenal is, how much of it exists, how workable is it [20:22] MinceR where their ICBM launching subs are [20:22] MinceR also, desperate situations call for desperate measures [20:23] XRevan86 A horde of mobilised men is a more tangible threat, but even that unlikely to be unmanageable by Ukraine. [20:23] MinceR if a country threatens the rest of the world with nuclear annihilation, it must be annihilated [20:23] MinceR the horde of mobilized men will probably be turned into hamburger [20:23] MinceR but they'll probably still manage to kill a lot of people in the process [20:23] MinceR and it would be better to avoid this [20:24] XRevan86 MinceR: https://youtu.be/2N7FU6pEc7k [20:24] -TechPolBot/#techpol-@Invidious: https://inv.riverside.rocks/watch?v=2N7FU6pEc7k [20:24] -TechPolBot/#techpol--> inv.riverside.rocks | Bang! Bang! Ivan is gone! - Invidious [20:24] MinceR (and yes, the above does mean that north korea should be destroyed long ago) [20:24] MinceR s/ be / have been / [20:25] XRevan86 The topic doesn't bring me joy, but the song is catchy. I can easily imagine DaemonFC singing that. [20:26] MinceR nice [20:26] DaemonFC I had to go share this with dad. [20:26] DaemonFC He'd probably laugh about it even more than me. [20:27] XRevan86 DaemonFC: Tell him a Russian shared it with you %) [20:29] DaemonFC One missile landing on Vladimir Putin would stop the next 100,000 Russians from dying, and the 100,000 after those too. [20:29] XRevan86 (video) https://nitter.it/TpyxaNews/status/1573384398166171648 [20:29] -TechPolBot/#techpol-English (@TpyxaNews): "Enerhodar, The first day of the pseudo-referendum. In the video, we see three collaborators, accompanied with two armed soldiers. People tell how an armed Russian military man poked a piece of paper with the barrel of a machine gun and eloquently showed where exactly to tick."|nitter.it [20:29] XRevan86 Another one. Chechens [20:30] DaemonFC https://portal.mozz.us/gemini/gemi.dev/cgi-bin/waffle.cgi/article%3Fhttps%253A%252F%252Fwww.nytimes.com%252Flive%252F2022%252F09%252F23%252Fworld%252Frussia-ukraine-putin-news%252Frussia-says-it-will-exempt-some-white-collar-workers-from-call-up-after-businesses-warn-of-repercussions [20:30] MinceR it would, but determining putler's location is difficult [20:30] -TechPolBot/#techpol-portal.mozz.us | Gemini Portal [20:30] DaemonFC Russia will exempt "some men with white collar jobs". [20:30] DaemonFC Yeah, send the poors. [20:30] XRevan86 And the cost of failure is high. [20:30] MinceR and if they know where putler is, i can't understand why they haven't killed or captured him yet [20:31] XRevan86 DaemonFC: Exactly right. [20:31] DaemonFC That's how the US did Vietnam. [20:31] DaemonFC Just dump all the people who would work at retail stores and factories into the war instead. There's a surplus of them anyway. Actually, it'd be really great if you can just hand the blacks a gun. We don't really need any of those coming back, right? [20:32] DaemonFC That was what happened. Iraq and Afghanistan too. [20:33] DaemonFC They knew that as long as it was poor people getting killed most of the country would just ignore the fact that so many were dying. In Vietnam, the mistake was that there was a draft and the draft law technically had to be random or it would be struck down. [20:33] DaemonFC However, they usually found "alternative service" for the people they didn't want to lose in the war. [20:34] DaemonFC You'll notice how all the politicians like Bush got "military service" that nobody else ever would have. [20:34] DaemonFC What happens to a soldier when they're drunk all the time and AWOL? [20:34] DaemonFC Most don't become the president later. [20:35] DaemonFC Most get into serious trouble if they're AWOL or drunk even once. [20:35] frog AWOL? [20:35] DaemonFC Bush was both constantly and his superiors were ordered that they would ignore it and not take disciplinary action because he was only there to make it look like he was drafted. [20:36] XRevan86 frog: [20:36] MinceR Away WithOut Leave, iirc [20:36] DaemonFC My mom's third husband did a Vietnam veteran pretty bad. [20:37] DaemonFC He showed up to buy a used refrigerator from the guy, and when we backed the trailer into the guy's driveway, it went in fine. [20:37] DaemonFC But when we loaded the fridge and drove off with it, the weight was enough that it caused the bottom to scrape a trench into the guy's driveway that he said he had just had paved. [20:38] DaemonFC So there was this nice long nails on the chalkboard sound and now this guy has a nice 15 foot long trench scraped into his freshly paved drive. [20:38] DaemonFC And he's just staring at us like "WTF", and Dave drove off. [20:39] DaemonFC Most Americans who ended up in Vietnam ended up screwed up in the head by what went on over there, and they came back and were never right in the head again. [20:40] DaemonFC But the US government was basically making the same exact threats that Vladimir Putin does. [20:40] XRevan86 DaemonFC: Most Russians who ended up in Afghanistan ended up screwed up in the head by what went on over there, and they came back and were never right in the head again. [20:40] DaemonFC You can go to the Army or we'll put you in prison. [20:40] DaemonFC 50,000 Americans got their draft cards and responded by fleeing to Canada and claiming asylum. [20:41] DaemonFC There's still a pretty sizeable American-Canadian population over there from that. Most of them never returned even after the mass pardon. [20:41] DaemonFC Why would they? They had immigration papers in Canada, some had become Canadian citizens by then. [20:42] DaemonFC Canada wasn't aghast by having them there. It didn't change the politics of Canada very much. They got a bunch of American war resistors. Most Canadians already didn't like the idea of the Vietnam War very much anyway and welcomed them. [20:43] DaemonFC So yes, the United States has behaved exactly like Russia is treating Ukraine now. [20:43] MinceR except the US trained and equipped their military personnel [20:43] MinceR and fed them [20:43] DaemonFC It wasn't even that long ago. (The war wasn't declared lost and ended until 20 years in, in the 1970s, and the draft went on for years after that!) [20:43] MinceR orcland does none of those things [20:44] frog i don't see the parallel between USA and Russia in this case, except for military drafts [20:44] DaemonFC Yes, that is the difference. At least in the American army, you get proper food, equipment, modern weapons and plenty of ammunition. [20:44] DaemonFC The Russian Army is third rate in every sense of the word, and thank God for that or they might have won this thing by now. [20:45] frog and you're sure russian military wasn't equipped and trained? don't think so. the professional military in russia is limited in numbers, and expensive. [20:45] MinceR probably even paid them [20:45] DaemonFC But even though the US military is technologically vastly superior and better trained and equipped than any other in the world.... [20:45] MinceR frog: read ZOV [20:45] DaemonFC We still lose wars. [20:45] DaemonFC So Putin has lost his mind for sure. [20:45] XRevan86 MinceR: He said he did. And he still wrote that [20:45] frog and those forced into conscriptiong, in Russia, may not be sent abroad, something in the constitution, conscription was intended for homeland defense, not any service abroad [20:45] DaemonFC Throwing some conscripts and prisoners that you're not even feeding into a war that's about to go into a winter stretch is not going to be a victory. [20:46] MinceR frog: are you trying to tell us you believe putler gives a single fuck about any constitution? [20:47] XRevan86 Conscripts are not sent to war right now (mostly). [20:47] DaemonFC You don't win wars mostly by fighting. You win them with planning. You win wars by not losing them. By dragging them out. By waiting for your enemies to commit mistakes and ambushing them and making them take heavy losses compared with what it cost you. [20:48] XRevan86 But funny thing, soon the conscripts will be demobbed, and after that, immediately mobilised. [20:48] DaemonFC Bunch of Russians sleeping in a group? At night? Fly a $200 drone over them and drop a grenade. [20:48] DaemonFC Blow 10 of them up. Even if you lose the drone, you win. [20:49] DaemonFC The Russians have sustained staggering losses in Ukraine by being badly disorganized and sloppy. [20:49] DaemonFC In just one incident recently, they had more than 200 soldiers die because of a single HIMARS strike on a building they were using as a barracks. [20:50] DaemonFC Are a couple missiles worth taking out a barracks? Yep. [20:50] frog yesterday Shoigu published some data: https://www.pravda.com.ua/eng/news/2022/09/21/7368500/ [20:50] -TechPolBot/#techpol-www.pravda.com.ua | Russian media calculates that Shoigu?s data on Russian and Ukrainian war losses is lies | Ukrainska Pravda [20:50] DaemonFC Of course it's a lie. [20:50] frog "5,937 Russian servicemen have been killed" [20:50] DaemonFC The stuff that the US is giving Ukraine actually works. [20:51] DaemonFC We're not giving them crap artillery shells where half are duds or explode after hitting the ground. [20:51] DaemonFC But funny thing, soon the conscripts will be demobbed, and after that, immediately mobilised. [20:52] DaemonFC I read that many conscripts are people who were protesting the war. [20:52] XRevan86 frog: If ye believe that number, ye haven't followed this war whatsoever. [20:52] DaemonFC That will end well. Their commanders won't be able to watch them all the time, and many will defect. [20:52] frog XRevan86: what is your estimate then? [20:53] frog honestly, i want to know, instead of believing anything. [20:53] MinceR that's new [20:53] XRevan86 https://t.me/wargonzo/8382 "Don't know about Shoigu but *we* have more" [20:53] -TechPolBot/#techpol-t.me | Telegram: Contact @wargonzo [20:53] DaemonFC Of course, trying to integrate defectors into your military is a mistake. Not everyone who defects really defects. [20:53] DaemonFC Some will be spies. [20:53] XRevan86 frog: Here's what a Russian military correspondent says to that number. [20:54] XRevan86 frog: "what is your estimate then?" <- Not less than 20 thousand. [20:54] XRevan86 That's the most conservative estimate rounded down. [20:58] XRevan86 Excluding the National Guard (Chechens), DPR/LPR, their mobilised, the PMCs, et al. [20:59] frog killed, and wounded ● Sep 23 [21:03] XRevan86 frog: For that multiply by 4. [21:04] DaemonFC "Tina, 27, a freelance journalist who was visiting her fiances parents in Beryslav, in Russian-occupied southern Ukraine, said that she drove through the streets on Friday morning and saw Russian officials standing in a neighbors yard, waiting for him to fill the ballot before passing it on to someone in a nearby vehicle." [21:04] DaemonFC A secret ballot, no doubt. [21:05] DaemonFC The Russians run famously free elections and will roll out immediately if the referendum fails. [21:05] XRevan86 "Excluding" <- Err, "including". [21:05] XRevan86 "Excluding" would be no less than ~15k by the most conservative estimation. [21:06] MinceR DaemonFC: lol [21:06] XRevan86 CIT (War in Ukraine): https://telegra.ph/Sitrep-for-September-22-23-until-1500-09-23 ( https://nitter.it/CITeam_en/status/1573401796395106318 ) [21:06] -TechPolBot/#techpol-telegra.ph | Sitrep for September 22-23 (until 1500) Telegraph [21:06] -TechPolBot/#techpol-CIT (en) (@CITeam_en): "Sitrep for September 22-23 (until 1500): Russia's mobilization increasingly chaotic; Ukrainian forces push further in the east; The extent of Russian damage to Izyum emerges; Ukrainian air defense on Iranian-made drone tactic https://te.legra.ph/Sitrep-for-September-22-23-until-1500-09-23"|nitter.it [21:06] MinceR maybe their claims would be more credible if they practiced the whole "free and fair voting" thing back at home for a few years [21:06] MinceR get a feel for it, figure out what it is. [21:07] MinceR but i'm 146% certain they did no such thing. [21:07] XRevan86 MinceR: The freaky thing is that back in the "146%" days the elections weren't nearly as rigged as they are now. [21:07] MinceR :> [21:11] DaemonFC I like how the US set up the fake elections in Iraq and Afghanistan. [21:12] DaemonFC You had to dip your finger in ink and if anyone saw ink on your fingers, they know you voted and they murdered you. [21:13] DaemonFC Then the US media told us that the people were ecstatic about the opportunity to vote in an election. [21:14] DaemonFC Then the Taliban took the entire country back in about a year as quickly as we pulled out. (Afghanistan) [21:15] DaemonFC 146% turnout? That's even better than Ohio in 2004. [21:16] DaemonFC Extend Vladimirovich my congratulations. [21:16] frog 146% too can indicate population growth [21:16] frog so, what are you argueing? [21:17] DaemonFC 146% of registered voters voted? [21:17] DaemonFC That indicates ballot box stuffing. [21:17] DaemonFC Not even cautious stuffing with the intent of making it look believable. [21:17] XRevan86 > Serving random individuals with draft notices might be due to a negligent attitude towards compiling mobilization lists and the extremely tight time frame (the first military training courses are supposed to begin as early as September 26). [21:17] DaemonFC Like we have in Illinois. [21:18] DaemonFC They should draft Putin. [21:18] DaemonFC He came here to do two things. Wear military costumes and grab tables. And he's all out of tables. [21:19] XRevan86 "146% too can indicate population growth" <- https://ih0.redbubble.net/image.193307344.3142/flat,800x800,075,f.u2.jpg [21:19] frog https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Vladimir_Putin_Cockpit_TU-160_Bomber.jpg [21:19] DaemonFC XRevan86, Did you see his televised speech? [21:19] -TechPolBot/#techpol-commons.wikimedia.org | File:Vladimir Putin Cockpit TU-160 Bomber.jpg - Wikimedia Commons [21:19] DaemonFC In addition to the usual table death grip, Putin was growling and grinding his teeth. [21:20] frog DaemonFC> They should draft Putin [21:20] DaemonFC It seems like he's a few fries short of a "Tasty, and that's it!" meal to me. [21:20] frog that's designated "Black Jack" by NATO [21:20] DaemonFC What do you think, MinceR? [21:20] XRevan86 DaemonFC: I didn't notice anything unusual about that. [21:21] DaemonFC Some of the sanctions are, of course, ridiculous. [21:21] DaemonFC Not allowing McDonalds to do business in Russia hurts us, not Russia. [21:21] DaemonFC McDonalds doesn't have some sort of secret method of cooking a hamburger and some fries that nobody can duplicate. [21:21] XRevan86 frog: I'll explain: the "146%" meme comes from this TV fsck-up: https://ruxpert.ru/images/3/3a/146%25.jpg [21:22] DaemonFC Why just the other day, I made cheeseburgets at home with a copycat big mac sauce and shredded lettuce and onions, on poppyseed buns, with some dill pickles. [21:22] DaemonFC And of course they were higher quality than McDonalds. [21:22] XRevan86 DaemonFC: No one told McDonalds not to do business in Russia, that's not a direct sanction. [21:22] DaemonFC The McDonalds model has nothing to do with the secret sauce, which isn't a secret. [21:23] DaemonFC There's clones for all of their sauces. So that's not it. [21:23] MinceR 23 222016 < DaemonFC> What do you think, MinceR? [21:23] MinceR agreed [21:23] XRevan86 DaemonFC: Ye won't find a sanction paper that says "McDonalds must halt its operations in Russia". [21:23] DaemonFC Their model has to do with speed and efficiency of service and maintaining quality control so that a burger in Indiana tastes like a burger in California. [21:23] DaemonFC And they can do that, but it's hard to monopolize that. [21:24] DaemonFC There are many ways to maintain quality control, but the way McDonalds does it is by lowering the quality to a manageable level that is sustainable no matter where they operate. [21:24] MinceR lol [21:25] DaemonFC You get a much better meal at Whataburger in Texas, but they said they haven't expanded because they'd have to turn into fucking McDonalds and they don't want that. [21:25] MinceR i prefer Burger King to McDonald's, but i'm kind of missing some McDonald's burgers now [21:25] MinceR i haven't eaten either in years [21:25] DaemonFC Did they pull out of Orbanistan? [21:25] MinceR no [21:25] frog McDonalds isn't anywhere close to some TexMex meals either [21:26] frog in Bamberg, many US soldiers resided, with one of their restaurants [21:26] DaemonFC Whataburger is terrific. About the only thing you CAN get from them in Illinois is their ketchup. [21:26] MinceR at some point, i worked not too far from a place with fast food restaruants and no other restrictions so i'd have fast food for lunch often [21:26] DaemonFC Which they sell at Texas supermarkets, so I can have it shipped here. [21:26] frog the restaurant was expensive though [21:27] DaemonFC I don't know what they do to the ketchup, but it is the best ketchup. [21:27] XRevan86 2019: https://rferl.org/a/your-turn-to-lie-former-russian-state-tv-cameraman-describes-the-business-of-misinforming-viewers-/29726481.html [21:27] MinceR then i worked at a place which paid for my lunch at particular places which weren't fast food restaurants, then i worked mostly from home [21:27] -TechPolBot/#techpol-www.rferl.org | 'Your Turn To Lie': Former Russian State TV Cameraman Describes 'The Business Of Misinforming Viewers' [21:27] frog not something, an underling in germany could afford [21:27] XRevan86 > The instruction came to Rossia-24 from the Kremlin stating what percentage to show for [the pro-Kremlin party] United Russia. The editor asked, "And what about the other parties?" The answer came: "Just show whatever they got." The editor wasn't going to argue with them. After all, the Kremlin knows best. So she did exactly as she was told. And that's how you get 146 percent. [21:27] XRevan86 frog: ^ [21:27] frog meanwhile, the US Barracks closed there [21:27] DaemonFC Donald Trump eating McDonalds all the time and actually liking that is indicative of the taste buds of a 5 year old. [21:28] DaemonFC Which I've noticed seems to be common with pedophiles. [21:28] XRevan86 frog: That's the story of "146%". [21:28] MinceR could also be a matter of being used to it early [21:28] DaemonFC I've personally known a few, and none of them had adult eating habits. [21:28] frog XRevan86: the fact in Russia such satire is broadcasted on TV, somehow, make it more liberal than the typical elections here [21:28] DaemonFC They always ate pizza, McDonalds, and ravioli out of a can. [21:29] DaemonFC McDonalds doesn't do anything exciting with their menu. Every time they do, it's a marketing disaster. [21:29] XRevan86 frog: How did ye come to this conclusion? [21:29] DaemonFC They have a "core customer" and they're not looking to expand their tastebuds. [21:30] XRevan86 Guys, guys, I want everyone to read what frog wrote at 20:28 UTC. [21:30] DaemonFC MinceR, frozen burgers never turn out the same as fresh. [21:30] DaemonFC McDonalds freezes theirs to keep spoilage down. [21:30] frog XRevan86: in germany such a mockery is not possible with any of the typical "official" turnout reports, they wouldn't do it [21:30] XRevan86 frog: I'll tell you a secret: it was not satire. [21:30] MinceR DaemonFC: which part of burgers do they freeze? [21:30] DaemonFC The burger patties. They all come in frozen. [21:31] MinceR lol @ dismissing it as satire [21:31] DaemonFC Freezing them does something to the taste and texture, so to bring back the taste, they oversalt them. [21:31] XRevan86 I think frog got struck with Poe's Law, that this story is so ridiculous he thinks it's a joke. [21:31] DaemonFC If you tell them don't salt it, they'll oblige, but then the burger tastes like cardboard. [21:32] DaemonFC MinceR, It wouldn't kill them to back off on the salt, honestly. [21:32] DaemonFC The FDA is after food companies to cut sodium by 25%. [21:32] MinceR ic [21:32] MinceR and that will just make food taste worse [21:32] DaemonFC Most food is oversalted to the point that a 25% reduction is still plenty. [21:33] DaemonFC I get the 25% less salt SPAM and it doesn't really taste any different. [21:33] DaemonFC Regular SPAM is the saltiest thing other than a heaping bowl of salt. [21:34] DaemonFC MinceR, The landlord was over today and I opened my closet to get something and he did a double take. [21:34] DaemonFC I've got like 300 pounds of cat food in there. [21:34] DaemonFC :) [21:34] MinceR :) [21:34] DaemonFC I just said "coupons". [21:35] DaemonFC My cats don't like wet cat food anyway. [21:35] DaemonFC They'll lick it but they won't eat it. [21:35] DaemonFC They do like canned tuna every now and then. [21:36] DaemonFC I was actually relieved to "only" get hit with a $50 rent increase this year. [21:36] DaemonFC The neighboring apartments are being listed for $1,075 plus electric (everything's electric), but ours goes up to $925. [21:37] DaemonFC I know better than to cause trouble for the landlord, and a lot of them prefer a known factor to chasing out tenants that are quiet and pay up and then having to paint and fix things up for a new tenant, and advertise, and have the unit off the market for a couple of months. [21:37] DaemonFC So they mostly just wait and really soak the next people. [21:39] DaemonFC I explained to him when we were talking about my bankruptcy why I had to throw two landlords into it. I explained Joy and he goes "Oh my God...." and then "What about this other one?". I said, "My ex stayed and finished out the lease and as far as I know I actually didn't owe that one anything, but I included him just in case my ex did do something and try to stick me with it.". [21:40] DaemonFC It's bad enough I have a car out there with my name on the title that John isn't even renewing the plates on. [21:40] DaemonFC I try to limit the number of grenades I have to walk around with in my back pocket. [21:41] DaemonFC Eventually, he's going to get pulled over and slapped with expired tags. [21:41] DaemonFC Those are not cheap in Washington. That's like a $700 fine and they're not required to let you drive off after they do it. They can tow the car. [21:42] DaemonFC MinceR, I try not to drive around playing "How many excuses can I give the cops to pull me over and shoot me today?". [21:42] DaemonFC It'd be nice if the rest of the world was like that. [21:43] DaemonFC It helps not driving around in a vehicle with an attention-grabbing paint job. [21:44] DaemonFC You don't want the cops to really take notice of you. If you get their attention by driving a neon green car, then you may wish you had a silver car. [21:46] DaemonFC If you find a new car that's trying to appeal to young people they come in all sorts of outrageous colors. [21:47] DaemonFC I wonder if that has something to do with higher insurance premiums for young drivers. [21:47] DaemonFC They get pulled over more because the cop sees a neon car that says "Please pull me over and cite me for something!". ● Sep 23 [22:03] XRevan86 https://nitter.it/JuliaDavisNews/status/1573395432256012306 [22:03] -TechPolBot/#techpol-Julia Davis (@JuliaDavisNews): "Relying on the time-honored Russian tradition of asking people to reject the evidence of their eyes and ears, Russian lawmakers and state TV propagandists insist that the Russians are enthusiastic about the mobilization, and Ukrainians are happy with the upcoming annexation."|nitter.it [22:07] XRevan86 https://translate.google.com/translate?sl=tr&tl=en&u=https://aa.com.tr/tr/gundem/0/2693028 "President Erdoan said, "(Prisoner exchange) These are our guests. One of them was a name that Mr. Putin insisted on. We sent this name to Russia." said." [22:07] -TechPolBot/#techpol-www-aa-com-tr.translate.goog | Cumhurbakan Erdoan: (Esir takas) Bunlar bizim misafirimiz [22:08] XRevan86 Who could that one person possibly be? [22:08] XRevan86 CrystalMath, frog: What are your best guesses? [22:08] frog on germany tv they reported, Turkey welcomed any Russian guests, with money. [22:09] XRevan86 CrystalMath, frog: Who is that prisoner on whose exchange Putin personally insisted as claimed by Erdogan? [22:09] DaemonFC It sounds like Ukraine is getting the better end of the deal on those prisoner exchanges. [22:10] XRevan86 DaemonFC: They knew they would in May. Russia just stalled greatly. [22:10] XRevan86 In April even. [22:10] XRevan86 frog: Come on, think! [22:10] XRevan86 Ye can do it! [22:13] frog i don't know any names of prisoners held captive in Ukraine. [22:13] XRevan86 frog: If ye had paid any attention to the news and/or to what I wrote here, ye'd know. [22:14] MinceR 23 223522 < DaemonFC> They do like canned tuna every now and then. [22:14] MinceR so do i [22:14] frog on name mentioned was Medvedchuk recently [22:14] XRevan86 frog: Yes, Medvedchuk. [22:14] XRevan86 Good job, [22:15] MinceR 23 224633 < DaemonFC> If you find a new car that's trying to appeal to young people they come in all sorts of outrageous colors. [22:15] XRevan86 frog: He's not a Russian citizen, he's not a military person. [22:15] MinceR i have yet to see a car color that outrages me [22:15] XRevan86 He's a close friend of Putin and that person who told Putin he'd be welcome in Ukraine if he chooses to jump it. [22:16] *psydroid2 has quit (connection closed) [22:16] MinceR lol [22:16] MinceR if i were vladolf, i'd be somewhat pissed at medvedchuk for suggesting that [22:16] XRevan86 Also during Poroshenko's presidency he was allowed to make a pro-Russian party called Opposition Platform For Life for their views to also be represented. [22:17] XRevan86 MinceR: He probably is, but friendship is magic. [22:17] MinceR :> [22:20] XRevan86 MinceR: It's one of the things that differs Putin from someone like Stalin. [22:20] MinceR :> [22:23] XRevan86 Ukrainians get that so they've been talking about exchanging Medvedchuk since April. [22:24] XRevan86 Z-putriots don't get that, so we observe all this amusing shit they post not understanding how a worthless worm from Ukraine is worth so many people. [22:25] frog prisoner exchange, regardless of your opinion XRevan86, is demanded by the Minsk agreement [22:25] XRevan86 frog: Prisoner exchange between Kyiv and Donetsk/Luhansk in 2015. [22:26] frog don't know, how many prisoners there are, on either side, with Minsk agreement, _all_ prisoners had to be exchanged [22:26] XRevan86 I'm not condemning prisoner exchange per-se, and there have been a lot of those over the months. [22:26] XRevan86 I just find this one amusing. [22:27] frog even if you consider this obsolete, the agenda to settle the conflict included just that, exchanging all prisoners [22:27] XRevan86 frog: Minsk agreements have nothing to do with this. What does is Zelensky's policy to exchange PoWs one for one. [22:27] XRevan86 except in this case (: [22:28] XRevan86 frog: Not all prisoners are exchanged. This wasn't an all-for-all. [22:34] *techrights_guest|84 (~0e61191e@54n9xgft8g6u2.irc) has joined #techpol [22:35] XRevan86 frog: Just so ye understand the timeline, in May the Azovstal defenders surrendered to Russia under the Russia-UN agreement that they will be in safety. After that Russia decided to do this: https://neuters.de/world/europe/planned-trials-ukrainian-prisoners-mariupol-concerning-un-rights-office-2022-08-23/ [22:35] -TechPolBot/#techpol-neuters.de | UN rights office 'very concerned' about planned trials of Ukrainian POWs [22:35] XRevan86 Many experts said that after the "trials" Russia will uphold the deal and everyone will get something out of it. [22:36] XRevan86 Then https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Olenivka_prison_massacre happened and some of those PoWs died. [22:36] -TechPolBot/#techpol-en.wikipedia.org | Olenivka prison massacre - Wikipedia [22:37] XRevan86 And now the "trial" is silently cancelled and all of them were exchanged for 55 PoWs and Medvedchuk. [22:39] XRevan86 All of those who were left in Russian custody that is, including the high-ranking officials of Azov. Some of the PoWs from Azovstal' were exchanged earlier as well. [22:40] frog XRevan86: would it be surprising, once himars nato artillery was provided to Ukraine, later "experts" disputed it must not have been nato weaponry [22:40] frog i cannot verify anything, yet what's confirmed is this: USA/NATO did supply, didn't they? [22:41] XRevan86 frog: If we're talking about the Olenivka prison massacre, then I can't take Russia's claims seriously even simply because of that they've presented the GMLRS debris relocated on a bench, like I said before. [22:42] XRevan86 Any relocation is literally obstruction of investigation. [22:42] MinceR what does "must not have been nato weaponry" mean? [22:42] XRevan86 So there are two options: it's either reckless sabotage, or it's deliberate planting of the debris. [22:43] XRevan86 frog: I don't have to be a munitions expert to understand that, so maybe ye would too. [22:45] XRevan86 MinceR: frog says that experts "in quotes" like CIT claim it wasn't GMLRS that struck the barracks in Olenivka. [22:45] XRevan86 Which is obviously true, they did say that. [22:46] XRevan86 frog: https://neuters.de/world/europe/un-chief-launches-fact-finding-mission-into-ukraine-prison-attack-2022-08-03/ Remember this? [22:46] -TechPolBot/#techpol-neuters.de | U.N. chief launches fact-finding mission into Ukraine prison attack [22:47] XRevan86 No one does, the UN and Red Cross _TO THIS DAY_ can't reach the prison. [22:47] frog the wiki article mentions the "wagner group" involved [22:49] XRevan86 frog: It's not proven. [22:49] frog what i do with this type of information is, to classify, as, impossible to verify [22:49] frog another category with this, utilization of such events, for propaganda [22:49] frog into three sub-categories, white, grey, black [22:49] XRevan86 frog: I mean, I agree on that, and so does CIT: https://telegra.ph/Dispatch-for-August-10-08-10 [22:50] -TechPolBot/#techpol-telegra.ph | Dispatch for August 10 Telegraph [22:50] XRevan86 > To this moment, there is no consensus among our team regarding these events, so we can only issue our comments on some versions. [22:50] frog and the specific type of war-cruelty propaganda, the white variant being it is based on truth, not any fabrication [22:50] XRevan86 Ouch, wrong quote. [22:51] frog furthermore, someone, intended to ignite fear and terror [22:51] frog however, why, in particular any specific prison is detonated, i don't know. [22:51] XRevan86 frog: Anyway, the important thing is that Russia could've proven its innocence if it were innocent. [22:51] XRevan86 But all it can do is say "they don't believe our bullshit claims, what else can do?" [22:51] XRevan86 * "can we do?" [22:57] XRevan86 "Ouch, wrong quote." <- There's the right one: https://telegra.ph/Dispatch-for-July-30-31-08-01 "there is still no entirely trustworthy version of what exactly happened there" [22:57] -TechPolBot/#techpol-telegra.ph | Dispatch for July 30-31 Telegraph [22:58] XRevan86 > We agree that this is clearly not HIMARS. It makes no sense to shoot the GMLRS from such a short distance, and there would be much more destruction made to the interior side (and the fragments shown lying on the bench could have been brought from anywhere else). [22:58] XRevan86 > The version that it was Ukraine who deliberately killed their own people seems to us an absolutely improbable conspiracy theory. [22:58] XRevan86 For the record, I hated the bench the moment I saw it, it's completely independent hate. [22:59] XRevan86 I was fuming at that moment when I saw that photograph on RIA Novosti. ● Sep 23 [23:02] XRevan86 It was like [23:02] XRevan86 "Evidence!", but when I looked it was a fscking bench. [23:04] XRevan86 So I saw "You have reached your article limit" on Reuters and decided that neuters.de links are the way to go. [23:09] XRevan86 https://pravda.com.ua/eng/news/2022/09/23/7368852/ [23:09] -TechPolBot/#techpol-www.pravda.com.ua | Dnipropetrovsk Oblast: Russian suicide drone falls in private yard, injuring 6 | Ukrainska Pravda [23:10] DaemonFC https://www.electoral-vote.com/evp2022/Senate/Maps/Sep23.html#item-7 [23:10] DaemonFC LOL [23:10] -TechPolBot/#techpol-Electoral-vote.com [23:12] XRevan86 DaemonFC: hehehe [23:15] DaemonFC "The House Republican conference rolled out their platform for the 2022 midterm elections with words attributed to Abraham Lincoln, but the Daily Beast reports the quote is actually from a Lehman Brothers ad from the 1980s. [23:15] DaemonFC Meanwhile, the HuffPost notes a companion video full of scenes presented as exceptional imagery of America were actually stock footage from Russia and Ukraine. [23:15] DaemonFC " [23:15] DaemonFC https://www.thedailybeast.com/house-gop-kevin-mccarthy-rolls-out-agenda-with-a-fake-abraham-lincoln-quote [23:15] -TechPolBot/#techpol-www.thedailybeast.com | House GOP Kevin McCarthy Rolls Out Agenda With a Fake Abraham Lincoln Quote [23:15] DaemonFC https://www.huffpost.com/entry/house-republicans-commitment-to-america-stock-footage-russia-ukraine_n_632dc7afe4b0d12b5404bab1 [23:15] -TechPolBot/#techpol-GOP Unveils 'Commitment To America' Plan With Stock Videos Of Russia, Ukraine | HuffPost Latest News [23:22] *techrights_guest|84 has quit (Quit: Connection closed) [23:35] XRevan86 https://en.zona.media/article/2022/09/23/occupation [23:35] -TechPolBot/#techpol-en.zona.media | We slept in basements for six months, in the same clothes. Witness accounts from liberated territories in the Kharkiv region