●● IRC: #techbytes @ Techrights IRC Network: Wednesday, January 04, 2023 ●● ● Jan 04 [01:39] *geert has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) ● Jan 04 [02:00] *u-amarsh04 has quit (Quit: Konversation terminated!) [02:01] *u-amarsh04 (~amarsh04@auubhxtweg528.irc) has joined #techbytes [02:32] *u-amarsh04 has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [02:41] *u-amarsh04 (~amarsh04@auubhxtweg528.irc) has joined #techbytes ● Jan 04 [03:36] *u-amarsh04 has quit (Quit: Konversation terminated!) [03:38] *u-amarsh04 (~amarsh04@auubhxtweg528.irc) has joined #techbytes ● Jan 04 [09:45] *u-amarsh04 has quit (Quit: Konversation terminated!) [09:53] *u-amarsh04 (~amarsh04@auubhxtweg528.irc) has joined #techbytes [09:56] *u-amarsh04 has quit (Quit: Konversation terminated!) [09:57] *u-amarsh04 (~amarsh04@auubhxtweg528.irc) has joined #techbytes ● Jan 04 [10:21] *u-amarsh04 has quit (Quit: Konversation terminated!) [10:22] *u-amarsh04 (~amarsh04@auubhxtweg528.irc) has joined #techbytes ● Jan 04 [11:16] *psydruid (~psydruid@jevhxkzmtrbww.irc) has left #techbytes [11:19] *psydruid (~psydruid@jevhxkzmtrbww.irc) has joined #techbytes ● Jan 04 [14:51] schestowitz https://www.fosslife.org/open-source-alternatives-try-2023 [14:51] -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-www.fosslife.org | Open Source Alternatives to Try in 2023 [14:51] schestowitz " [14:51] schestowitz Open source offers many alternatives to popular proprietary applications that can improve the quality of life for you and your team, says Don Watkins. [14:51] schestowitz In this article, Watkins rounds up a variety of open source tools to consider in place of proprietary products, such as Mastodon in place of Twitter. [14:51] schestowitz Other open source solutions to check out include: [14:51] schestowitz Rocket.Chat or Delta Chat as chat tools [14:51] schestowitz Kdenlive and Flowblade for video editing [14:51] schestowitz Egroupware as a groupware solution [14:51] schestowitz " ● Jan 04 [15:08] schestowitz Re: coercion & deception [15:08] schestowitz > There is already some good coverage of people being coerced, e.g. the [15:08] schestowitz > email to Renata and the demotion email that Dr Preining published. [15:08] schestowitz A demotion in the context of unpaid work is a weird concept. [15:08] schestowitz > The analysis of the way the FSFE fellowship worked, with fake membership [15:08] schestowitz > cards, etc, is a strong example of deception because the members were [15:08] schestowitz > not recorded on the FSFE e.V. membership roll. [15:08] schestowitz > [15:08] schestowitz > Do you have any tag or category for your articles to help identify [15:08] schestowitz > coercion, in particular, doing work under coercion? [15:08] schestowitz Not coercion in particular, but: http://techrights.org/category/deception/ [15:09] -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-techrights.org | Deception | Techrights [15:09] schestowitz > Do you have any tag or category for your articles to help identify [15:09] schestowitz > deception, in particular, doing work under a deceptive relationship? [15:09] schestowitz > [15:09] schestowitz > Each of these topics, coercion and deception, can be relevant in a [15:09] schestowitz > modern slavery prosecution. [15:09] schestowitz > [15:09] schestowitz > - coercion or deception to contribute code [15:09] schestowitz > [15:09] schestowitz > - coercion or deception to change a license to be more permissive [15:09] schestowitz > [15:09] schestowitz > - coercion or deception to do sysadmin work [15:09] schestowitz > [15:09] schestowitz > - coercion or deception to do conference organization [15:09] schestowitz > [15:09] schestowitz > - coercion or deception to do IT support, helping users [15:09] schestowitz > [15:09] schestowitz > Some of the evidence is about coercion to say or not say something. [15:09] schestowitz > This may not be modern slavery. Oversimplifying it, censorship doesn't [15:09] schestowitz > always relate to doing unpaid work. But if it intersects with the work [15:09] schestowitz > somebody is doing then there could be an issue. [15:09] schestowitz Some times this month or next month I will show how my employer tried to use my job as pretext to offer support to their family friend: [15:09] schestowitz http://techrights.org/wiki/Sirius_Open_Source [15:09] -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-techrights.org | Sirius Open Source - Techrights [15:09] schestowitz > Both the Daniel Baumann and Norbert Preining emails are encouraging them [15:09] schestowitz > to continue doing Debian work under a framework of coercion. This is [15:09] schestowitz > distinct from emails to Renata telling her what to say. [15:09] schestowitz The above mentions the role of guilt and humiliation to coerce workers. One more examples of that will be published tonight. Instructions under threat. [15:09] schestowitz > From time to time I've seen comments from companies who felt pressured [15:09] schestowitz > to use an open source license. For example, I feel that the tone of [15:09] schestowitz > this article was shaming xTuple into changing their license, without [15:09] schestowitz > giving any economic reason why xTuple would benefit from changing it: [15:09] schestowitz > [15:09] schestowitz > https://web.archive.org/web/20080122022821/http://blogs.cnet.com/8301-13505_1-9749950-16.html [15:09] schestowitz I remember the xTuple debacle very well. [15:09] -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-web.archive.org | OpenMFG transforms into xTuple, but misses the open-source train | The Open Road - The Business and Politics of Open Source by Matt Asay - CNET Blogs [15:09] schestowitz > Agreed, they had been a bit naive when they started using the term open [15:09] schestowitz > source. But rather than mocking them, I think that the blog could have [15:09] schestowitz > simply left the reader with the choice, e.g. "xTuple needs to either [15:09] schestowitz > adopt an OSI approved license or avoid using the term open source" [15:09] schestowitz OSI is corrupt, deeply corrupt, it became a front group for Microsoft and proprietary GitHub. ● Jan 04 [16:17] *geert (~geert@xt9i27maugagc.irc) has joined #techbytes ● Jan 04 [22:42] *geert has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s)