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schestowitzHi, thank you for reaching out to me. I wanted to talk to you about the article you posted regarding the issue you had with systemd and strongSwan.Feb 04 03:41
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schestowitzIn fact, the problem you had was just due to a misconfiguration on your end, not due to systemd or strongSwan.Feb 04 03:41
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schestowitzBlaming either of it for the problem doesn't do them justice.Feb 04 03:42
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schestowitzAlso, the large number of issues does not realistically reflect the number of actual bugsFeb 04 03:42
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schestowitzsystemd is a piece of software with a complex job. It's natural that people have issues with it.Feb 04 03:42
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schestowitzNow back to the article. " but when things don’t go smoothly, they can be downright distressing and almost impossible to diagnose/debug/resolve." -> That's what logging is for. You can ask systemd for information using "systemctl status <unit>" and a myriad of other ways, so it's not difficult. Just different.Feb 04 03:43
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schestowitz"One thing I’ve long noticed about systemd is that any system with it takes ages to boot and shut down — something I’ve experienced only since systemd was put there by default (the time it takes isn’t slightly longer — we’re talking about something like 4 times longer!)." <- systemd actually is a lot faster than, for example, openrc with the same system configuration because systemd parallelizes a lot of things. This also unveilsFeb 04 03:43
schestowitzany number of issues that administrators or package maintainers created with wrong dependency ordering and so on.Feb 04 03:43
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schestowitz"Consider StrongSwan. I’ve already spent about 6 hours on this (net time, putting aside distractions). I finally got to the point where I can either get only to the VPN’s internal realm or the ‘outside world’ (not both). I spoke to the developers about it as the subject is very scarcely documented on the Web; there are hardly any Web pages about it (like a HowTo for StrongSwan on Debian 10)." <- There's no specific tutorial aboutFeb 04 03:45
schestowitzDebian10 with strongSwan because it's not in any way peculiar.Feb 04 03:45
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schestowitz"Does that say what goes wrong? No. Nowhere." <- yeah well, that's because it did exactly what you configured it to do.Feb 04 03:45
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schestowitz" /home/ will soon be conquered by systemd, maybe /var/log/ too (so producing the above will require yet more learning and retraining, maybe coping with new bugs as well)." <- /var/log was already "conquered" with systemd-journald - which is optional. You can replace it with (r)syslog just fine. Requires you to do some configuration changes obviously, but it works fine.Feb 04 03:46
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schestowitz"Maybe it’s great and innovative, but the disruption it has caused is very much real and it’s hard to believe anyone but Red Hat (now IBM) shareholders will profit from it. Those shareholders probably don’t use GNU/Linux themselves, certainly not on their desktops/laptops — a form factor they almost certainly don’t care for as “there’s no money on it!” (ask the Linux Foundation how many people in it even use the operatingFeb 04 03:46
schestowitzsystem)." <- systemd through its versatility and options in configuring the units enabled the configuration of a lot of scenarios that were previously not possible to configure or required third party software. With systemd it's natively possible to do all configuration with units without having to deal with searching, reading the documentation understanding the configuration of/for third party software.Feb 04 03:46
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schestowitzThe reason it's so disruptive is because there's a load of "neckbeards" that don't want/can't to learn new things that differs from their previous way. A lot of people are also just participating in group dynamics for no good reason.Feb 04 03:47
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schestowitzI think I'm done. :PFeb 04 03:47
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schestowitzHi, thank you so much for the very detailed reply. I've only just caught up with mail (once a day or  twice a day). For config I used the exactly same file I've used for years, successfully, on another machine (where it still works), so clearly adaptation to it were needed. I did check a lot of documentation. I try hard. Things did change. I also agree with many of the points you made. Do you want to see ipsec.conf?Feb 04 03:50
schestowitzBTW, I am a strongswan proponent, some of my collagues suggest moving to wireguard and we previously all used openvpnFeb 04 03:51
schestowitzBTW, I am a strongswan proponent, some of my colleagues suggest moving to wireguard and we previously all used openvpnFeb 04 03:51
schestowitzhttp://ipkitten.blogspot.com/2020/02/furry-thoughts-on-sky-v-skykick-part-2.html?showComment=1580732737099#c1473788695859773705Feb 04 05:54
-TechBytesBot/#techbytes-ipkitten.blogspot.com | Furry thoughts on Sky v. Skykick – Part 2: trade marks registered with no intention to use - The IPKatFeb 04 05:54
schestowitz"...and where does this leave EUIPO's position on re-filings such as in MONOPOLY? "Feb 04 05:54
schestowitzhttp://ipkitten.blogspot.com/2020/02/furry-thoughts-on-sky-v-skykick-part-2.html?showComment=1580740070018#c1159848163808192196Feb 04 05:54
-TechBytesBot/#techbytes-ipkitten.blogspot.com | Furry thoughts on Sky v. Skykick – Part 2: trade marks registered with no intention to use - The IPKatFeb 04 05:54
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schestowitzI think it won't be directly affected by it. As noted in the Part 1 post, the MONOPOLY case law considers in bad faith filings "manifestly intended to circumvent the obligation to prove use of earlier marks". I would say this is different from what's at stake in Sky, i.e. it is not immediately apparent that there is a dishonest intention of undermining third parties' interests and/or an attempt to obtain an exclusive right for purposesFeb 04 05:54
schestowitzfalling outside the scope of trade mark functions. Rather, it is a separate category of bad faith filing, which remains actionable under the EUIPO case law on MONOPOLY.Feb 04 05:54
schestowitzI suppose you could read par. 77 as exhaustively prescribing the conditions under which a filing with no intention to use can constitute bad faith, and then argue that since re-filings as in MONOPOLY are not clearly with the scope of these conditions, they must be allowed. However, I would be hesitant to accept that: the decision in Sky relates to first-time filings, and in case of a re-filing of an unused trade mark, the fact that there wasFeb 04 05:54
schestowitzan identical earlier trade mark subject to revocation for non-use clearly seems among all the relevant circumstances of the case that are to be taken into account following KOTON and SKY. I think it is likely that when this circumstance is present, different conditions for finding bad faith will apply.Feb 04 05:54
schestowitzSo in short, I think it leaves the EUIPO's position on re-filings unaffected. What do you think?Feb 04 05:54
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schestowitz>>>> http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/133660Feb 04 07:15
-TechBytesBot/#techbytes-www.tuxmachines.org | Updates From FOSDEM: Daniel 'Curl' Stenberg on HTTP/3 and GNU Poke Adding Hyperlink Support | Tux MachinesFeb 04 07:15
schestowitz>>>>Feb 04 07:15
schestowitz>>> In Daniel's presentation, he mentions that QUIC currently uses 2 to 3Feb 04 07:15
schestowitz>>> times the CPU as HTTP/1.1  At a global scale that amounts to a lot ofFeb 04 07:15
schestowitz>>> electricity, an thus a lot of fossil carbon, for no gain.  Getting ridFeb 04 07:15
schestowitz>>> of the crap from the web pages, globally, would also reduce the burdenFeb 04 07:15
schestowitz>>> on the routing infrastructure.Feb 04 07:15
schestowitz>> In a relative scale, packet switching and the likes of that don'tFeb 04 07:15
schestowitz>> contribute as much as cars, planes etc.Feb 04 07:15
schestowitz> I mention it, in part, because another world-famous developer,Feb 04 07:15
schestowitz> Poul-Henning Kamp, wrote musings a few years ago on the global energyFeb 04 07:15
schestowitz> footprint of the NTP daemon he was dissecting.  Being present in nearlyFeb 04 07:15
schestowitz>  all the world's networked devices makes any change felt.  A possible 4Feb 04 07:15
schestowitz> to 6 fold increase in energy consumption caused by QUIC is something toFeb 04 07:15
schestowitz> question.  The same argument could be made in favor of upgrading to *BSDFeb 04 07:15
schestowitz> or GNU/Linux over M$ Windoze, the latter being an acknowledged CPU hog.Feb 04 07:15
schestowitzCompared to home heating (or cooling  in hot places) I think it is almost negligible. When I work from the home of Rianne's parents I have to have the A/C on almost constantly. It is very humid.Feb 04 07:15
schestowitz>> So I think we also need to set priorities right to combat heating.Feb 04 07:15
schestowitz> Yes, priorities are important but every small piece counts.  One of theFeb 04 07:15
schestowitz> talking points people bleat at me from time to time is the assertionFeb 04 07:15
schestowitz> that "we" can't affect any change.  Again, every piece counts and theFeb 04 07:15
schestowitz> WWW is used heavily by each one of the approximately 3 billion smartFeb 04 07:15
schestowitz> phones afflicting the world today.  The smartphones themselves are alsoFeb 04 07:15
schestowitz> their own problem with their power consumption.Feb 04 07:15
schestowitzThe towers add to radiation. I know the ones nearby, maybe 100-200 meters from us. The ones I can see anyway.Feb 04 07:15
schestowitz>> Daniel and I are in very good terms online, BTW.... we talk occasionally.Feb 04 07:15
schestowitz> That's excellent.  He's one of the giants and has done amazing thingsFeb 04 07:15
schestowitz> for FOSS via Curl.Feb 04 07:15
schestowitzI have attempted to make it known (for years now) how important an impact he had. And he appreciated this a great deal. We still talk about the GitHub issue. I am still not sure about best strategy to make GH another "CodePlex".Feb 04 07:15
schestowitz> https://www.forbes.com/sites/robertpearl/2017/11/07/hospitals-losing-millions/Feb 04 07:54
-TechBytesBot/#techbytes-www.forbes.com | Why Major Hospitals Are Losing Money By The MillionsFeb 04 07:54
schestowitz> # :(Feb 04 07:54
schestowitzRipoff artists of U S A (hospitals) as poor victims... not the people whom they kill because they're unable to remortgage their home (if they have one)Feb 04 07:54
schestowitz"BUT THE MONIES" !!Feb 04 07:54
schestowitz>>> Data mining and AI training are additional areas of waste.  The latterFeb 04 08:33
schestowitz>>> is comparable to producing a SUV.Feb 04 08:33
schestowitz>> If SUVs can reduce the numbers of homes and aren't moving too often,Feb 04 08:33
schestowitz>> then maybe another argument can be made. More tin, less quarrying. ButFeb 04 08:33
schestowitz>> tin needs mining and processing, it also does age as well as bricks andFeb 04 08:33
schestowitz>> cement.Feb 04 08:33
schestowitz> The S in SUV, the way I parse it, stands for Suburban.  So theyFeb 04 08:33
schestowitz> contribute only to traffic congestion and excessive fuel consumption:Feb 04 08:33
schestowitz> They are classified as trucks so as to avoid CAFE standards.  But theyFeb 04 08:33
schestowitz> are (mis)used as cars.Feb 04 08:33
schestowitz>Feb 04 08:33
schestowitz> The need to restore collective traffic around the world is anotherFeb 04 08:33
schestowitz> important topic.  However, whenever I've talked to people from the USFeb 04 08:33
schestowitz> about it they start squeaking in a panicky way that they "need" to haveFeb 04 08:33
schestowitz> their car and that it mustn't be taken away from them.  Eliminating thatFeb 04 08:33
schestowitz> false dichotomy built up in the public's minds by the auto/petrochemicalFeb 04 08:33
schestowitz> industries is the first barrier to overcome.Feb 04 08:33
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schestowitz>>> [snip]Feb 04 08:33
schestowitz>>>> Ticketing can be done  separately. At work I installed bugzilla for NHS.Feb 04 08:33
schestowitz>>> I wonder how self-hosted ticketing can be promoted.  I guess it can beFeb 04 08:33
schestowitz>>> another part of the re-decentralization movement.Feb 04 08:33
schestowitz>> There can also be productive jobs associated with maintaining these, notFeb 04 08:33
schestowitz>> just gardening tickets but keeping the system/s running.Feb 04 08:33
schestowitz>>Feb 04 08:33
schestowitz>> We need fewer "Windows box booters" and more geeks.Feb 04 08:33
schestowitz> I refer to the assholes posing as "IT" people as Windows resellers,Feb 04 08:33
schestowitz> because that is what they actually do and they know nothing about ITFeb 04 08:33
schestowitz> itself.Feb 04 08:33
schestowitzOutsourcers of one kind. Solution 'by proxy'... or non-solution in the case of Microsoft. Broken windows...Feb 04 08:33
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/PokedexInfoBot/status/1224611061841743873Feb 04 08:54
-TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@PokedexInfoBot: @schestowitz ekans is a poison pokemon. It sneaks through grass without making a sound and strikes unsuspecting pre… https://t.co/BgkmuqiU7XFeb 04 08:54
-TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@PokedexInfoBot: @schestowitz ekans is a poison pokemon. It sneaks through grass without making a sound and strikes unsuspecting pre… https://t.co/BgkmuqiU7XFeb 04 08:54
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schestowitzekans is a poison pokemon.Feb 04 08:54
schestowitzIt sneaks through grass withoutFeb 04 08:54
schestowitzmaking a sound and strikesFeb 04 08:54
schestowitzunsuspecting prey from behind.Feb 04 08:54
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schestowitzI did not know...Feb 04 08:54
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/zoobab/status/1224596619762466816Feb 04 08:55
-TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@zoobab: @schestowitz email protocol is broken anyhow, dates back from the seventies. Mixnets and crypto should be built-in,… https://t.co/M7IN7mdornFeb 04 08:55
-TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@zoobab: @schestowitz email protocol is broken anyhow, dates back from the seventies. Mixnets and crypto should be built-in,… https://t.co/M7IN7mdornFeb 04 08:55
schestowitz"email protocol is broken anyhow, dates back from the seventies. Mixnets and crypto should be built-in, without the need of a 'server'."Feb 04 08:55
schestowitzemail is still widely supportedFeb 04 08:55
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/jamesabernard/status/1224568798050537473Feb 04 08:56
-TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@jamesabernard: @schestowitz If the device has memory, devs will use it! They also assume you have the latest model with max'ed out memory!Feb 04 08:56
schestowitz"If the device has memory, devs will use it! They also assume you have the latest model with max'ed out memory!"Feb 04 08:56
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/HamrhedCorvette/status/1224555870354362369Feb 04 08:57
-TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@HamrhedCorvette: @schestowitz I need more info on this...Feb 04 08:57
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/fcassia/status/1224553523326734336Feb 04 08:57
-TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@fcassia: @schestowitz Systemd is the new operating system .... *sarcasm*Feb 04 08:57
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/CryptoB74957120/status/1224553226915262464Feb 04 08:58
-TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@CryptoB74957120: @schestowitz @Crypt0_Wolf One word BRAVE ,Good morning From Europe, Sow nothing much has moved since the USA tradin… https://t.co/Vdl0lhneURFeb 04 08:58
-TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@CryptoB74957120: @schestowitz @Crypt0_Wolf One word BRAVE ,Good morning From Europe, Sow nothing much has moved since the USA tradin… https://t.co/Vdl0lhneURFeb 04 08:58
schestowitz"One word BRAVE ,Good morning From Europe, Sow nothing much has moved since the USA trading session is coming to an end, let's see if Europe can move the market, Remember to claim your FREE Real BTC Coin at our shop!"Feb 04 08:58
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/Crypt0_Wolf/status/1224551097337044992Feb 04 08:58
-TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@Crypt0_Wolf: @schestowitz So does chromeFeb 04 08:58
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/Crypt0_Wolf/status/1224550969708597248Feb 04 08:58
-TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@Crypt0_Wolf: @schestowitz Does it not respect privacy more than google? Is their privacy policy false? Compared with startpage?Feb 04 08:58
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/Crypt0_Wolf/status/1224548357860925440Feb 04 08:58
-TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@Crypt0_Wolf: @schestowitz Changed your tune over the years I see! Good stuff. #FLOSS only!Feb 04 08:58
schestowitzMozilla too changedFeb 04 08:58
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/hesbighesred/status/1224443563804520455Feb 04 08:59
-TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@hesbighesred: @schestowitz @wikileaks @GreensladeR Not a single guardian journo has, as yet, RTd the original article/tweet.Feb 04 08:59
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/minininjalove/status/1224421585035112453Feb 04 09:01
-TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@minininjalove: @schestowitz @wikileaks @GreensladeR Seen Green/Envy- Anderson/ drug rape - slander - slap - Roy/royal/King/Chief >… https://t.co/3fvGNnB5f6Feb 04 09:01
-TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@minininjalove: @schestowitz @wikileaks @GreensladeR Seen Green/Envy- Anderson/ drug rape - slander - slap - Roy/royal/King/Chief >… https://t.co/3fvGNnB5f6Feb 04 09:01
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schestowitzSeen Green/Envy- Anderson/ drug rape - slander - slap - Roy/royal/King/ChiefFeb 04 09:01
schestowitz>>Its all in the name<<Feb 04 09:01
schestowitzMurder right before our  eyes @NilsMelzerFeb 04 09:01
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schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/minininjalove/status/1224418316439183361Feb 04 09:01
-TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@minininjalove: @schestowitz @wikileaks @GreensladeR WL in my estimation isn't promoting this article so much as to bring awareness… https://t.co/53Mu7ZqsSBFeb 04 09:01
-TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@minininjalove: @schestowitz @wikileaks @GreensladeR WL in my estimation isn't promoting this article so much as to bring awareness… https://t.co/53Mu7ZqsSBFeb 04 09:01
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schestowitzWL in my estimation isn't promoting this article so much as to bring awareness to the absurdity.Feb 04 09:01
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schestowitzThey still profit from the trafficFeb 04 09:01
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/ultralite001/status/1224417314906497032Feb 04 09:01
-TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@ultralite001: @schestowitz @jhamby 😱😱😱Feb 04 09:01
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/jhamby/status/1224406863522844674Feb 04 09:02
-TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@jhamby: @schestowitz Or non-HP PC’s. I can’t find any brand of “off-the-rack” server PCs coming with ECC DRAM, even when th… https://t.co/5mYDAARUweFeb 04 09:02
-TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@jhamby: @schestowitz Or non-HP PC’s. I can’t find any brand of “off-the-rack” server PCs coming with ECC DRAM, even when th… https://t.co/5mYDAARUweFeb 04 09:02
schestowitz"Or non-HP PC’s. I can’t find any brand of “off-the-rack” server PCs coming with ECC DRAM, even when the motherboard supports it. That’s a real shame. The two x86-64 servers I built myself recently, both running FreeBSD, have Xeon CPUs and ECC SDRAM."Feb 04 09:02
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/jhamby/status/1224402460522893312Feb 04 09:03
-TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@jhamby: @schestowitz It’s only $1,030 in the US. HP Z1 G5 Workstation - Core i7 i7-9700 - 16 GB RAM - 512 GB SSD - Tower -… https://t.co/WREVgH1iQJFeb 04 09:03
-TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@jhamby: @schestowitz It’s only $1,030 in the US. HP Z1 G5 Workstation - Core i7 i7-9700 - 16 GB RAM - 512 GB SSD - Tower -… https://t.co/WREVgH1iQJFeb 04 09:03
schestowitz"It’s only $1,030 in the US. HP Z1 G5 Workstation - Core i7 i7-9700 - 16 GB RAM - 512 GB SSD - Tower - Windows 10 Pro 64-bit - DVD-Writer:"Feb 04 09:03
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/jhamby/status/1224403769892294657Feb 04 09:03
-TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@jhamby: @schestowitz I don’t think the G5 is the latest model though? The RAM isn’t ECC? And that case looks very cheap. Bu… https://t.co/reKbVQEoXMFeb 04 09:03
-TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@jhamby: @schestowitz I don’t think the G5 is the latest model though? The RAM isn’t ECC? And that case looks very cheap. Bu… https://t.co/reKbVQEoXMFeb 04 09:03
schestowitz"I don’t think the G5 is the latest model though? The RAM isn’t ECC? And that case looks very cheap. But there are much better HP “Z” workstation-grade PCs for not much more $."Feb 04 09:03
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/epicbrowser/status/1224624216978403330Feb 04 10:03
-TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@epicbrowser: @schestowitz Hi Roy, they work with google, duckduckgo works w/ microsoft. Yes, this predates system1. It's easy t… https://t.co/dkIPWLvehTFeb 04 10:03
-TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@epicbrowser: @schestowitz Hi Roy, they work with google, duckduckgo works w/ microsoft. Yes, this predates system1. It's easy t… https://t.co/dkIPWLvehTFeb 04 10:03
schestowitz"Hi Roy, they work with google, duckduckgo works w/ microsoft.  Yes, this predates system1. It's easy to see, do a search for say for "tutor", notice the google ads are localized, so some personal info (likely an ip address) was sent to google. Both co.s refuse to say what."Feb 04 10:03
schestowitzI wrote about this around 5 years ago. Startpage belittled this. Did you yourself/ves  publish info about this? Re DDG, I wrote about their Microsoft ties as well. Around 2013.Feb 04 10:04
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schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/Crypt0_Wolf/status/1224662824359747584Feb 04 11:56
schestowitzit was me who urged RMS to spoke against its privacy violations almost a decade ago (which he did)Feb 04 11:57
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schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/Afristotle/status/1224674257415933952Feb 04 12:47
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schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/zoobab/status/1224708623059836928Feb 04 15:10
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schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/Crypt0_Wolf/status/1224758300467777537Feb 04 18:46
-TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@Crypt0_Wolf: @schestowitz And they criticize the telegram encryption protocol MTProto because its not "mainstream" yet its the… https://t.co/8DMqg5wHj3Feb 04 18:46
-TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@Crypt0_Wolf: @schestowitz And they criticize the telegram encryption protocol MTProto because its not "mainstream" yet its the… https://t.co/8DMqg5wHj3Feb 04 18:46
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schestowitzAnd they criticize the telegram encryption protocol MTProto because its not "mainstream"  yet its the only one banned in Russia.   Badge of honour.  Things that make you go hmm...Feb 04 18:46
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schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/doombadroid/status/1224751134759219200Feb 04 18:46
-TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@doombadroid: @schestowitz And is also an industry that employs hundreds of thousands of people and brings in millions in tax rev… https://t.co/dmfBGIwBmmFeb 04 18:46
-TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@doombadroid: @schestowitz And is also an industry that employs hundreds of thousands of people and brings in millions in tax rev… https://t.co/dmfBGIwBmmFeb 04 18:46
schestowitz"And is also an industry that employs hundreds of thousands of people and brings in millions in tax revenue. How about let people enjoy things and stop advocating for mass unemployment?"Feb 04 18:46
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/doombadroid/status/1224740057908514817Feb 04 18:47
-TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@doombadroid: @schestowitz The dude honeymooned in the USSR. Socialism is just communism via vote instead of revolution. The same… https://t.co/Bt9Lp8sv43Feb 04 18:47
-TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@doombadroid: @schestowitz The dude honeymooned in the USSR. Socialism is just communism via vote instead of revolution. The same… https://t.co/Bt9Lp8sv43Feb 04 18:47
schestowitz"The dude honeymooned in the USSR. Socialism is just communism via vote instead of revolution. The same critiques are still valid and still apply."Feb 04 18:47
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/minininjalove/status/1224716891522064384Feb 04 18:48
-TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@minininjalove: @schestowitz @wikileaks @GreensladeR Trafficking is profitable. Some bring a higher price on the market than others.Feb 04 18:48
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