●● IRC: #techbytes @ FreeNode: Tuesday, January 05, 2021 ●● ● Jan 05 [00:15] *GNUmoon2 has quit (Remote host closed the connection) ● Jan 05 [01:41] *GNUmoon2 (~GNUmoon@gateway/tor-sasl/gnumoon) has joined #techbytes ● Jan 05 [04:11] schestowitz__ > Hi Roy, [04:11] schestowitz__ > [04:11] schestowitz__ > It's a good point about being in control of a key comms tool. In [04:11] schestowitz__ > context, the availability of Slack so far has been pretty robust and [04:11] schestowitz__ > this is a rare outage. However, we do already have a plan to migrate [04:11] schestowitz__ > away from this to a fully self-hosted version of an IM product with [04:11] schestowitz__ > similar functionality (Simon and I are looking at several, in particular [04:11] schestowitz__ > https://element.io/. I expect us to move forward on deployment of an [04:11] -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-element.io | Element group video messenger | Group chat | Team communication productivity app | Matrix open network | Decentralized end-to-end encryption [04:11] schestowitz__ > appropriate product early this year. [04:11] schestowitz__ > [04:11] schestowitz__ > In the meantime I don't think it is viable to bring an alternative comms [04:11] schestowitz__ > product on-line just for outages as the overhead of doing this is not [04:11] schestowitz__ > justified by the number or duration of outages but thanks for flagging it! [04:11] schestowitz__ > [04:11] schestowitz__ > Happy New Year by the way! [04:11] schestowitz__ Sounds good! [04:11] schestowitz__ Happy New Year to you too! ● Jan 05 [06:08] *GNUmoon2 has quit (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) [06:49] *GNUmoon (~GNUmoon@gateway/tor-sasl/gnumoon) has joined #techbytes [06:55] *schestowitz (~schestowi@host81-154-173-106.range81-154.btcentralplus.com) has joined #techbytes [06:55] *schestowitz has quit (Changing host) [06:55] *schestowitz (~schestowi@unaffiliated/schestowitz) has joined #techbytes ● Jan 05 [07:00] *schestowitz__ has quit (Ping timeout: 272 seconds) [07:06] *GNUmoon has quit (Remote host closed the connection) [07:06] *GNUmoon (~GNUmoon@gateway/tor-sasl/gnumoon) has joined #techbytes ● Jan 05 [09:00] Techrights-sec the TM dumps are getting interupted somehow, I'll look into it [09:00] Techrights-sec One owrked as it should [09:00] Techrights-sec The others id not [09:00] Techrights-sec ^are [09:00] Techrights-sec It may have been the ssh_host_key (public half) for TM missing from [09:00] Techrights-sec known_hosts on TR. Running manually again, but we'll see for sure tomorrow. [09:32] schestowitz some traffic swarms on TM today, coming and going ● Jan 05 [10:13] Techrights-sec maybe groups of the curious visiting TM? [10:13] schestowitz does not look like legit traffic [10:18] Techrights-sec :( [10:18] Techrights-sec They are testing again then [10:18] schestowitz to be fair, we cope a lot better on or with the new server, but when you get 10k reqs in 30 seconds it'll pause, not serve for a while, then get back to it [10:19] Techrights-sec The current hardware is extremely generous. We are very much indebted for it. [10:20] schestowitz It's much of the same as London Town Hall (I know because we support it, and it runs Drupal) [10:21] schestowitz BTW, I can only upload about 10mb/hour, at most 20. Any trick for pushing that up. It got a lot worse on Monday and we move back to lockdown tonight (full), so maybe the throttling is related to congestion, not my ipfs node [10:21] schestowitz It pains me to make a video I can only publish (with text) half as day later [10:23] Techrights-sec Not really, yet. Is the bottleneck your home ISP? [10:23] Techrights-sec They usually limit uploads to a tiny fraction of the advertised bandwidth. [10:23] Techrights-sec Fewer moving parts, fewer color photos, and smoother textures help, but [10:23] Techrights-sec only a little. [10:23] Techrights-sec There is some talk about parallel sftp somewhere but I'm not sure about whether that will ever get to the main project. [10:24] schestowitz Traffic shaping would probably bottleneck the whole household. Rianne noticed slowdowns on her laptop also. [10:25] Techrights-sec Maybe hit it with split and run a separate SFTP client for each file? [10:25] Techrights-sec Then reassamble on the TR server? [10:25] schestowitz Yesterday I tried uploading 2 different webm files in parallel and IIRC it did not help. I can try again, one video is about zdnet, another about qt [10:26] schestowitz It only imperials publications further because both arrive later instead of one at a time [10:27] Techrights-sec https://parallel-ssh.org/ [10:27] Techrights-sec untested [10:27] Techrights-sec Oh. If the parallel files did not improve speed, then other parallel tricks [10:27] -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-parallel-ssh.org | ParallelSSH [10:27] Techrights-sec probably won't help. [10:27] Techrights-sec Again, I suspect your home ISP throttles bandwidth for uploads. [10:27] Techrights-sec Part of the war on general purpose computing and self-sufficiency. [10:28] schestowitz I mentioned this in #techrights yesterday and kaniini, who does/did ISP stuff, said it's definitely sounding like a case of throttling [10:31] Techrights-sec What can you negotiate with the home ISP? It might be in the contract somewhere [10:31] Techrights-sec that you can have more or it might say that you get nothing there in th efineprint [10:32] schestowitz It has only been this bad for maybe 30 hours, so I hope it'll solve itself. Maybe some exchange died somewhere, slowing down upload speeds until they repair it. Many things are possible and I really hate phoning some truly useless and powerless call centre that just follows manuals and won't lift a finger. [10:35] schestowitz the whole tenability of making video is at stake though. There's no workaround, no pigeons for me to send with CD-ROM containing videos across the pong. [10:35] schestowitz the whole tenability of making video is at stake though. There's no workaround, no pigeons for me to send with CD-ROM containing videos across the pond. [10:37] Techrights-sec In the short term it would be just to plam that it takes a VERY long time to [10:37] Techrights-sec upload the video and take that into account. [10:37] Techrights-sec Beats 9600bps still. [10:37] Techrights-sec :/ [10:37] Techrights-sec ] [10:37] schestowitz Not by much. LOL [10:38] schestowitz One MB in 6 minutes [10:43] Techrights-sec :/ [10:43] Techrights-sec That's too slow. Better ask the ISP about the home connection. [10:43] Techrights-sec ] ● Jan 05 [11:35] *Disconnected (Network is unreachable). [11:35] *Now talking on #techbytes [11:35] *Topic for #techbytes is: Welcome to the official channel of the TechBytes Audiocast [11:35] *Topic for #techbytes set by ThistleWeb!~gordon@unaffiliated/thistleweb at Wed Jan 5 20:55:35 2011 [11:57] *Now talking on #techbytes [11:57] *Topic for #techbytes is: Welcome to the official channel of the TechBytes Audiocast [11:57] *Topic for #techbytes set by ThistleWeb!~gordon@unaffiliated/thistleweb at Wed Jan 5 20:55:35 2011 [11:57] *schestowitz (~schestowi@host81-154-170-145.range81-154.btcentralplus.com) has joined #techbytes [11:57] *schestowitz has quit (Changing host) [11:57] *schestowitz (~schestowi@unaffiliated/schestowitz) has joined #techbytes [11:57] *asusbox (~rianne@host81-154-170-145.range81-154.btcentralplus.com) has joined #techbytes [11:58] *Techrights-sec (~quassel@host81-154-170-145.range81-154.btcentralplus.com) has joined #techbytes [11:59] *libertybox (~schestowi@host81-154-170-145.range81-154.btcentralplus.com) has joined #techbytes ● Jan 05 [12:11] *rianne__ (~rianne@host81-154-170-145.range81-154.btcentralplus.com) has joined #techbytes [12:13] *liberty_box (~liberty@host81-154-170-145.range81-154.btcentralplus.com) has joined #techbytes ● Jan 05 [20:47] Techrights-sec https://blog.steve.fi/brexit_has_come.html [20:47] Techrights-sec ] [20:47] -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-blog.steve.fi | Brexit has come [20:48] Techrights-sec ack [20:48] Techrights-sec Yep [20:48] Techrights-sec otr: the brexit blog post is right but omitted that it is the [20:48] Techrights-sec far right p"populists" driven by Facebook which have eliminated [20:48] Techrights-sec Swedish in practice. The under-30 crowd are usually rather smug about [20:48] Techrights-sec not understanding it or being able to speak it. I is IMO part of a [20:48] Techrights-sec long game to move to Russian instead. ● Jan 05 [21:12] *GNUmoon has quit (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) ● Jan 05 [23:09] *GNUmoon (~GNUmoon@gateway/tor-sasl/gnumoon) has joined #techbytes [23:18] *GNUmoon has quit (Remote host closed the connection) [23:19] *GNUmoon (~GNUmoon@gateway/tor-sasl/gnumoon) has joined #techbytes [23:22] *GNUmoon has quit (Remote host closed the connection) [23:24] *GNUmoon (~GNUmoon@gateway/tor-sasl/gnumoon) has joined #techbytes