●● IRC: #techbytes @ Techrights IRC Network: Sunday, March 06, 2022 ●● ● Mar 06 [00:17] *q_ has quit (connection closed) ● Mar 06 [01:50] schestowitz " [01:50] schestowitz Translation types [01:50] schestowitz Text translation [01:50] schestowitz Source text [01:50] schestowitz 1,096 / 5,000 [01:51] schestowitz Translation results [01:51] schestowitz I didn't have an account with Joindiaspora. But I think the way this team is going about it is absolutely great. Thank you for so much commitment. This is the spirit in which the Internet was created - long before commerce tried by all means to take it over. [01:51] schestowitz Wolfgang Strobl (vanishing account) [01:51] schestowitz Wolfgang Strobl (vanishing account) - about 16 hours ago [01:51] schestowitz @(((Dirk Weber))) I also find it remarkable and praiseworthy how this team proceeds and that it drives this effort at all. Don't underestimate the problems you run into when you don't want to just crash an entire system or replace it with something else. Especially if it is old, has not yet been fully developed and lacks any migration options. Personally, I don't necessarily want Usenet back, but I find it remarkable and gratifying that a worldwide [01:51] schestowitz distributed communication system, in which I participated more than 35 years ago, is available to me continuously and largely unchanged to this day. [01:51] schestowitz " [01:51] schestowitz (((Dirk Weber))) [01:51] schestowitz (((Dirk Weber))) - about 18 hours ago [01:51] schestowitz Ich hatte ja nun keinen Account bei Joindiaspora. Aber wie dieses Team da vorgeht, das finde ich absolut Spitze. Vielen Dank fr soviel Engagement. Das ist der Geist, in welchem das Internet einmal entstanden ist - lange bevor der Kommerz mit allen Mitteln versucht, es zu bernehmen. [01:51] schestowitz Wolfgang Strobl (vanishing account) [01:51] schestowitz Wolfgang Strobl (vanishing account) - about 16 hours ago [01:51] schestowitz @(((Dirk Weber))) Wie dieses Team vorgeht und dass es diesen Aufwand berhaupt treibt, finde ich ebenfalls beachtenswert und lblich. Die Probleme, die man bekommt, wenn man ein alles System nicht einfach zusammenbrechen lassen mag oder durch irgend etwas anderes ersetzen mchte, sollte man nicht unterschtzen. Insbesondere dann, wenn es alt ist, bis heute nicht fertig entwickelt und bar jeder Migrationsmglichkeiten. Ich persnlich wnsche [01:51] schestowitz mir das Usenet zwar nicht unbedingt zurck, finde es aber beachtlich und erfreulich, dass mir ein weltweites verteiltes Kommunikationssystem, an dem ich schon vor ber 35 Jahren teilgenommen habe, kontinuierlich und weitgehend unverndert bis heute zur Verfgung steht. [01:51] schestowitz (((Dirk Weber))) [01:51] schestowitz (((Dirk Weber))) - about 14 hours ago [01:51] schestowitz Ack [01:51] schestowitz https://diaspora.glasswings.com/posts/ad4b9c307e3b013ae0ff52540086c3e0 [01:51] -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-diaspora.glasswings.com | And JoinDiaspora is "back"! As we've announced, the pod will be ava... [01:56] schestowitz https://diaspora.glasswings.com/posts/6fcf5c107e30013a5b3a448a5b29e257 [01:56] schestowitz " [01:56] -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-diaspora.glasswings.com | Godspeed Joindiaspora [01:56] schestowitz Godspeed Joindiaspora [01:56] schestowitz Joindiaspora.com as a fully-functioning Diaspora* pod is no more. It was the first, and possibly largest node on the federated Diaspora* network, both factors of which contributed in part to its demise as detailed by its administrators and the Diaspora* developers team. [01:56] schestowitz It will have some limited continued existence, see below and links for details. [01:56] schestowitz At 20:01 UTC the site started throwing 502 Bad Gateway errors. This means that the planned maintenance has begun. According to previous announcements (see below), the site will return in a limited-service mode at some future point, precise time not known. How long the site will remain available in this mode has also not been clear, though suggestions are that it will be at least a month. I would hope longer. [01:56] schestowitz On Friday, March 4th, at around 20:00 UTC, JoinDiaspora will go down for a long maintenance break. We cannot yet estimate how long this will take. We will use that time to move JoinDiaspora and its data from infrastructure maintained by Feneas to infrastructure maintained by the diaspora* Core Team. This work will not resolve existing issues with exporting account data. Our work on the export feature will start at a later time, see below. [01:56] schestowitz When maintenance is completed, JoinDiaspora will be available again in a limited-service mode. In this mode, you will no longer be able to read or write posts or comments. However, you will be able to manage your account, and you will be able to export your account data. [01:56] schestowitz An update on the future of JoinDiaspora.com 2022-2-22 [01:56] schestowitz As has been typical of the shutdown, there was no final announcement that Im aware. The #Joindiaspora hashtag has a few recent posts from members, though none from Podmins, and the announcement posts lacked any hashtags the only real searchable Diaspora* mechanism at all. Communications could have been much better than they were. Ill be discussing this and other matters in future. [01:56] schestowitz There has been an update at the Joindiaspora Sunset Team profile: [01:56] schestowitz As announced in our announcement, the server migration is currently underway. Given the size of JoinDiasporas filesystem and database, this might take a couple of hours to complete. [01:56] schestowitz https://pod.diaspora.software/posts/5009540 [01:56] -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-As announced in our announcement (https://pod.diaspora.software/pos... [01:56] schestowitz I strongly recommend monitoring that profile for further announcements: [01:56] schestowitz Profile: @The JoinDiaspora Sunset Team (joindiaspora-sunset@pod.diaspora.software) [01:56] schestowitz URL: https://pod.diaspora.software/u/joindiaspora-sunset [01:56] schestowitz I do want to thank Lukas Matt and others for their time and effort all the same. Joindiaspora, like the Diaspora* project itself, has been a volunteer and amateur effort, in the original sense of that last word, performed for love not lucre. [01:56] schestowitz Status of my Joindiaspora content [01:56] schestowitz Ive taken pains to see that my own content from my Joindiaspora profile, @Doc Edward Morbius (moved to Glasswings), remains as generally available as possible. Specifically: [01:56] schestowitz Ive requested several data exports, the most recent of which created yesterday. Ive engaged minimally on the platform in the past two months, since the shutdown was initially announced. [01:56] schestowitz As many posts as possible have been federated to Glasswings, and hopefully other pods, as possible. [01:56] schestowitz My earliest remote followers came from the following pods and dates, which should provide the most complete set of federated posts with comments: pod.orkz (25 December 2013), pod.geraspora.de (18 January 2014), diasp.eu (31 March, 2014), diasp.de (6 May, 2014), diaspora-fr.org (22 July, 2014), spyurk.am (11 August, 2014). [01:56] schestowitz Glasswings (diaspora.glasswings.com), my new home, seems to have begun federating between mid-April and mid-May, 2020, as the Covid-19 pandemic ramped up and I posted on that topic. Earlier posts may be present (mostly by recent federation triggered by me) but the comments date from the first federation event. Yes, Diaspora* federation is complicated. [01:56] schestowitz WIth few exceptions, any still-extant content should be available under at least its joindiaspora.com original URL at Archive.Today, including full comments. This includes both my own original posts and reshares. [01:56] schestowitz Ive made multiple attempts to save posts to the Internet Archive. This is nominally easier as it may be automated. It does not preserve comments. In practice, Ive found over the past several months that automated submissions via the Archives own supported methods do not succeed consistently. I dont know how successful those efforts have been yet, I do plan on assessing this in future. The Archive is useful in that many people and [01:56] schestowitz tools will consult it automatically for links which have expired. Archive.Today does not yet have a similar recognition. [01:56] schestowitz I do NOT plan to delete my Joindiaspora profile, as that would have the effect of deleting all my content, including federated content. This has been an issue Ive observed from others deleted profiles as Ive attempted my own data salvage operation. [01:56] schestowitz Ive also created, and am continuing to refine, tools which work on the downloaded data extract and which provide both local access to that content and can create formats and exports which are useful in referring to older content. In particular, an Archive Index generator, which summarizes the content and provides links which should in theory point to extant copies still on line. Again, thats ongoing work, though Ive published draft [01:56] schestowitz versions. Those tools, incidentally, assisted greatly in manually archiving and federating most of my 2,659 posts and reshares over the past two months. Tedious, but in my case, largely tractable. Ill be posting a curated set of public indices highlighting more significant content in future. [01:56] schestowitz I write much of this in the hopes that it will be useful to others, most especially members of other pods either presently annoucing shutdown plans (#Pluspora most notably) or which do so in future. [01:56] schestowitz See also: [01:57] schestowitz Joindiaspora Shutdown Announcement (official) [01:57] schestowitz Further Shutdown Scheduling and Details (official) [01:57] schestowitz My own Data Migration Tips & Questions thread [01:57] schestowitz #Joindiaspora #JoindiasporaCom #Diaspora #DiasporaMigration #Migration #Diaspora #Help #Tips #DataArchves #Archives #Plexodus [01:57] schestowitz " [01:57] schestowitz > FYI, the Joindiaspora-Sunset profile has posted an update: [01:57] schestowitz > [01:58] schestowitz > https://diaspora.glasswings.com/posts/ad4b9c307e3b013ae0ff52540086c3e0 [01:58] -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-diaspora.glasswings.com | And JoinDiaspora is "back"! As we've announced, the pod will be ava... [01:58] schestowitz > [01:58] schestowitz > [01:58] schestowitz > I've visited the "limited-service mode" site. It's a bit ... bleak. [01:58] schestowitz > [01:58] schestowitz > I'd also managed to salvage most of my own content online (federated [01:58] schestowitz > elsewhere on Diaspora\*, at Archive.Today, and a good chunk at Archive.org). [01:58] schestowitz > [01:58] schestowitz > See my own brief retrospective: [01:58] schestowitz > [01:58] schestowitz > https://diaspora.glasswings.com/posts/6fcf5c107e30013a5b3a448a5b29e257 [01:58] -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-diaspora.glasswings.com | Godspeed Joindiaspora [01:58] schestowitz > [01:58] schestowitz > [01:58] schestowitz > [01:58] schestowitz > I'd argue that for you the POSSE model probably suits you best. [01:58] schestowitz > [01:58] schestowitz > https://indieweb.org/POSSE [01:58] -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-indieweb.org | POSSE - IndieWeb [01:58] schestowitz There is an overhead associated with POSSE. [01:58] schestowitz IRC, locally hosted, works best for us. [01:58] schestowitz I've archived the above. [01:58] schestowitz We'll see how pod migration goes, if or when it does. ● Mar 06 [02:00] schestowitz > Surprisingly, AT&T handled my complaint much better than expected. They are sending me a technician to install a new modem on Tuesday, March 8th. I have installed several of their modems in the past as they seem to last only about 2 or 3 years. This time I am going to watch their tech guy do it. [02:00] schestowitz Excellent. Sounds like they upgrade a little. Make sure you and the technician wear a mask. ● Mar 06 [03:38] *Despatche has quit (connection closed) [03:38] *Despatche (~desp@u3xy9z2ifjzci.irc) has joined #techbytes ● Mar 06 [04:03] *GNUmoon2 has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [04:04] *GNUmoon2 (~GNUmoon@d233e93g2hrcc.irc) has joined #techbytes [04:34] *MinceR has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [04:39] *MinceR (~mincer@bringer.of.light) has joined #techbytes [04:39] *irc.techrights.org sets mode +a #techbytes MinceR ● Mar 06 [06:13] *DaemonFC has quit (Quit: Leaving) [06:58] *u-amarsh04 (~amarsh04@hngiv8sdpiaf2.irc) has joined #techbytes ● Mar 06 [08:24] *u-amarsh04 has quit (Quit: Konversation terminated!) [08:35] *u-amarsh04 (~amarsh04@hngiv8sdpiaf2.irc) has joined #techbytes ● Mar 06 [09:48] schestowitz "follow me directly using RSS feeds. Techrights: http://techrights.org/feed/ personal: http://schestowitz.com/Weblog/feed/ [09:48] schestowitz = [09:48] schestowitz https://www.europarl.europa.eu/doceo/document/A-9-2021-0356_EN.pdf [09:48] schestowitz = [09:49] schestowitz https://www.emptywheel.net/2022/03/04/the-error-that-betrays-insufficient-attention-to-the-obstruction-standard-in-the-january-6-eastman-filing/ [09:49] schestowitz = [09:49] -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-www.emptywheel.net | The Error that Betrays Insufficient Attention to the Obstruction Standard in the January 6 Eastman Filing - emptywheel [09:49] schestowitz https://www.freemalaysiatoday.com/category/world/2022/03/05/ipc-ask-china-why-games-anti-war-speech-censored/ [09:49] schestowitz = [09:49] -TechBytesBot/#techbytes- ( status 503 @ https://www.freemalaysiatoday.com/category/world/2022/03/05/ipc-ask-china-why-games-anti-war-speech-censored/ ) [09:49] schestowitz https://www.crowdjustice.com/case/equality-act-investigation-aga/ [09:49] -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-www.crowdjustice.com | The Green Party must respect our sex! [09:49] schestowitz = [09:49] schestowitz http://techrights.org/irc-archives/irc-log-techrights-050322.html#tMar%2005%2023:17:16 [09:49] -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-techrights.org | IRC: #techrights @ Techrights IRC Network: Saturday, March 05, 2022 [09:49] schestowitz = ● Mar 06 [10:13] *psydruid (~psydruid@jevhxkzmtrbww.irc) has joined #techbytes [10:13] *psydroid2 (~psydroid@memzbmehf99re.irc) has joined #techbytes [10:32] *rianne__ (~rianne@pumv3cb2rfinu.irc) has joined #techbytes [10:33] *asusbox2 (~rianne@pumv3cb2rfinu.irc) has joined #techbytes [10:34] *rianne has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [10:34] *asusbox has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) ● Mar 06 [11:12] *Despatche has quit (Quit: Read error: Connection reset by deer) ● Mar 06 [12:36] *Despatche (~desp@u3xy9z2ifjzci.irc) has joined #techbytes [12:46] *q_ (~q@b3rs3wwrk3aiu.irc) has joined #techbytes ● Mar 06 [14:06] *u-amarsh04 has quit (Quit: Konversation terminated!) [14:13] schestowitz > *Excellent. Sounds like they upgrade a little. Make sure you and [14:13] schestowitz > the technician wear a mask.* [14:13] schestowitz > [14:13] schestowitz > I try to be careful especially when in the presence of a tech who is in [14:13] schestowitz > and out of dozens of households weekly. ● Mar 06 [15:13] schestowitz https://diaspora.psyco.fr/posts/8299929 [15:13] -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-diaspora.psyco.fr | #joindiaspora shuts down in less than 5 hours from now (after more ... [15:13] schestowitz "https://diaspora.psyco.fr/posts/8299929" [15:13] schestowitz "Well miss you here. Take care." [15:13] schestowitz https://diaspora.psyco.fr/posts/8299636 [15:13] -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-diaspora.psyco.fr | #Famine and Radiations as Weapons of War; Or: Nobody Will Win in #U... [15:13] schestowitz " [15:13] schestowitz The #Doomsday Clock has been updated, also with past events in 2021/2022. 100 seconds away from #Midnight by now: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Doomsday_Clock The graph does not (yet) contain 2021/2022: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Doomsday_Clock#/media/File:Doomsday_Clock_graph.svg [15:13] -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-en.wikipedia.org | Doomsday Clock - Wikipedia [15:13] -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-en.wikipedia.org | Doomsday Clock - Wikipedia [15:13] schestowitz Roland Hder [15:14] schestowitz Roland Hder - 2 days ago [15:14] schestowitz Oh, the past events around #Ukraine , #Russia and #USA seem to be not yet included. [15:14] schestowitz " [15:14] schestowitz https://diaspora.psyco.fr/posts/8297718 [15:14] -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-diaspora.psyco.fr | Another #Chrenobyl But This Time Intentional? http://schestowitz.co... [15:14] schestowitz "Do you have any beginning of anything that could tend to prove what you want to insinuate?" [15:16] schestowitz https://diaspora.psyco.fr/posts/8293955 [15:16] -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-diaspora.psyco.fr | 3D Printed Shoes Make #Bigfoot Tracks | Hackaday https://hackaday... [15:16] schestowitz "This design is not the slightest bit practical for ordinary people. Think of all the mid they collect" ● Mar 06 [16:26] schestowitz https://twitter.com/BrideOfLinux/status/1500496430171103242 [16:26] -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@BrideOfLinux: Roy Schestowitz's take: How to Make the Free Software Community Look Like a Bunch of Bigots While Accomplishing Not https://t.co/ES8y6rkDmt [16:26] -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@BrideOfLinux: Roy Schestowitz's take: How to Make the Free Software Community Look Like a Bunch of Bigots While Accomplishing Not https://t.co/ES8y6rkDmt ● Mar 06 [17:37] *q_ (~q@b3rs3wwrk3aiu.irc) has left #techbytes [17:37] *psydroid4 (~psydroid@memzbmehf99re.irc) has joined #techbytes [17:55] *psydroid4 has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) ● Mar 06 [18:40] *u-amarsh04 (~amarsh04@hngiv8sdpiaf2.irc) has joined #techbytes [18:55] *u-amarsh04 has quit (Quit: Konversation terminated!) [18:55] *u-amarsh04 (~amarsh04@hngiv8sdpiaf2.irc) has joined #techbytes ● Mar 06 [20:00] *techrights_guest|12 (~1f3df878@54n9xgft8g6u2.irc) has joined #techbytes [20:04] *techrights_guest|12 has quit (Quit: Connection closed) [20:35] *DaemonFC (~daemonfc@rm9qf2bd96b5u.irc) has joined #techbytes [20:54] *GNUmoon2 has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) ● Mar 06 [21:17] *DaemonFC has quit (Quit: Leaving) [21:18] *DaemonFC (~daemonfc@bs7zfy7xzt3k4.irc) has joined #techbytes [21:50] *u-amarsh04 has quit (connection closed) [21:54] *GNUmoon2 (~GNUmoon@kast94wzabfbc.irc) has joined #techbytes ● Mar 06 [23:03] schestowitz Re: Weblog still unavailable [23:03] schestowitz > Waiting for Tuesday, March 8th, when AT&T tech scheduled to arrive to install new modem. [23:03] schestowitz > Meanwhile is there anything below that helps you helps me in my attempt to log in with: [23:03] schestowitz > User Name: admin [23:03] schestowitz I think this is normal considering what you try to access. [23:27] schestowitz " [23:27] schestowitz (Roy here) [23:27] schestowitz Ive finally managed to export my @Linux data account (yay! Well done, devs!), not yet @schestowitz (its a lot bigger), and my understanding based on the documentation is that account IMPORT is not implemented yet, so we shall have to wait for a future release. If my assumption is wrong, let me know. [23:27] schestowitz pavi@despora.de [23:27] schestowitz pavi@despora.de - about 3 hours ago [23:27] schestowitz A silly question: my profile data is 3.8 MB without pictures, is that expected? [23:27] schestowitz The JoinDiaspora Sunset Team [23:27] schestowitz The JoinDiaspora Sunset Team - about 2 hours ago [23:27] schestowitz Can you someone please just explain how one goes about viewing this data in a readable form, thanks [23:27] schestowitz @Gary Hill The archive is meant for other pieces of software to import. Its not really designed to be human-readable at all. The purpose of this file is for other pieces of software to consume it, not to give you a nice presentation of your data. That being said, this might be something we might change in the future. [23:27] schestowitz my profile data is 3.8 MB without pictures, is that expected? [23:27] schestowitz @pavi@despora.de the main chunk of the export is your own posts and comments. Since that is mostly human text, the compression is very efficient. So, yeah, thats not surprising. You can extract the archive and have a look at the JSON yourself. Also, thats not a silly question. :) [23:27] schestowitz " [23:27] schestowitz https://pod.diaspora.software/posts/4984491 [23:27] -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-pod.diaspora.software | An update on the future of JoinDiaspora.com [23:28] *psydroid2 has quit (connection closed) [23:35] *psydruid (~psydruid@jevhxkzmtrbww.irc) has left #techbytes