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schestowitz>> Maybe they'll sort of converge again.May 06 00:49
schestowitz>May 06 00:49
schestowitz> The funding will never clean up, so I really hope they'll remain more independent. If I had known about the promotion of the rms article though, I might have left that line out entirely.May 06 00:49
schestowitz>May 06 00:49
schestowitz> I think in a perfect world, GNU would split off from FSF formally and become the GNU foundation. I can easily imagine arguments against. I think the arguments for are stronger. I'm sure there's someone we don't trust who would also love the idea, but I haven't trusted the FSF for a long time. The GNU project is important either way.May 06 00:49
schestowitz>May 06 00:49
schestowitz> At any rate if they're trying to reconcile, I don't think it's a good idea but I also doubt trying to drive a wedge between them would help anything, so I'll try to give them some time to make up. The corrupt elements aren't done yet-- there are people who had "One Job!" and failed as miserably as de Icaza. That remains unresolved. Anybody would be a fool to just let that go.May 06 00:49
schestowitzI've meanwhile fixed the gnugub image, which is now used in 3 articles :-)May 06 00:49
schestowitz> Hi RoyMay 06 00:50
schestowitz>May 06 00:50
schestowitz> Hope you are well.May 06 00:50
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schestowitz> Controversy is erupting again this year ahead of Amazon’s shareholderMay 06 00:50
schestowitz> meeting over AmazonSmile’s use of the politically liberal SouthernMay 06 00:50
schestowitz> Poverty Law Center as gatekeeper for eligibility to receive part of theMay 06 00:50
schestowitz> $44 million in grants made in the last fiscal year alone. An analysis ofMay 06 00:50
schestowitz> AmazonSmile 990 records shows that the SPLC itself has receivedMay 06 00:50
schestowitz> significant funds from the very program over which they control accessMay 06 00:50
schestowitz> and use that role to deny funding to political opponents. In addition,May 06 00:50
schestowitz> other controversial liberal organizations, like Planned Parenthood, haveMay 06 00:51
schestowitz> received millions of dollars of funding from AmazonSmile.May 06 00:51
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schestowitz> It’s one more problem for Amazon and Jeff Bezos, which has been rockedMay 06 00:51
schestowitz> for their handling of worker safety complaints, and in Bezos case beenMay 06 00:51
schestowitz> asked to testify before a House committee for allegedly lying to Congress.May 06 00:51
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schestowitz> For the second year in a row, the National Center for Public PolicyMay 06 00:51
schestowitz> Research has placed a shareholder initiative on the Amazon annualMay 06 00:51
schestowitz> meeting ballot (May 27^th ) calling for a reexamination of this policyMay 06 00:51
schestowitz> and has started a petition campaign to Amazon’s board with a goal ofMay 06 00:51
schestowitz> half a million signatures. They claim that SPLC deliberately excludesMay 06 00:51
schestowitz> conservative nonprofits from the program for political reasons.May 06 00:51
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schestowitz>May 06 00:51
schestowitz> Justin Danhof, General Counsel of NCPPR is available for interviews.May 06 00:51
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schestowitz> Best regards,May 06 00:51
schestowitz> AshMay 06 00:51
schestowitzhttps://blog.gitea.io/2016/12/welcome-to-gitea/May 06 00:54
-TechBytesBot/#techbytes-blog.gitea.io | Welcome to Gitea - BlogMay 06 00:54
schestowitz|May 06 00:54
schestowitzFound this blog post that summarizes what happened. The date of the fork is indeed november 2016. The same problem that prompted the fork happened again in 2019. One maintainer is simply not enough if you want to step out of the hobbist world, not for a project like this.May 06 00:54
schestowitzfreemedia@framasphere.orgMay 06 00:54
schestowitzfreemedia@framasphere.org - a day agoMay 06 00:54
schestowitz    you’re just being silly there. Gogs is on github as much as gitea is, so I don’t see why gitea being on github should be a point in favour of using gogs.May 06 00:54
schestowitzim not being silly, youre just missing the point. first of all, im not saying that gogs is an alternative. im saying that gitea isnt. you keep getting that part wrong.May 06 00:54
schestowitzwe DO need a fork of gogs, so we agree there but you respond as if i dont get that. but imo we need a fork of gogs that isnt github-based, and gitea isnt that.May 06 00:54
schestowitz    You’re making a moot point about code disappearing since git is distributed.May 06 00:54
schestowitzyoud have an easier time understanding if you quit speaking for me and creating this straw men. im not sure youre doing it intentionally, but its certainly keeping you far from the point im actually making.May 06 00:54
schestowitzi doubt the code would disappear, because someone would likely have a copy. thats far from the only problem of trusting github.May 06 00:54
schestowitz    And besides, at least migration is planned.May 06 00:55
schestowitznow there you go, if youd said that from the beginning (i actually look for signs of these migrations, its always good to know) then i would have agreed with you sooner that gitea is more promising than i thought. thank you for the good news.May 06 00:55
schestowitz    Either way, if you’re unhappy about the project you should complain to them and not me.May 06 00:55
schestowitznow youre being silly. you go around telling people not to give bad advice on a public forum, proposing gitea as an alternative, and you expect nobody else on said forum to comment JUST LIKE YOU DID.May 06 00:55
schestowitzthats not realistic at all. i wasnt commenting on gitea itself, i was commenting in your comment. good luck to you.May 06 00:55
schestowitzMichele SantulloMay 06 00:55
schestowitzMichele Santullo - a day agoMay 06 00:55
schestowitzMigration can’t happen overnight, not even one year to the next. In fact they are already hosting their code on a gitea instance but a full migration to pure gitea hosting likely requires federation first, or the project would cut itself out of community. I encourage you or anyone else interested in doing their own research (gitea’s issue page on github is a great source of info).May 06 00:55
schestowitzMy point however is about vulnerabilities in the code and the capacity to respond quickly to serious bugs by the project maintainers and under this aspect gitea is superior.May 06 00:55
schestowitz"May 06 00:55
schestowitzhttps://gitea.com/gitea/gitea_mirrorMay 06 00:55
-TechBytesBot/#techbytes-gitea.com | gitea/gitea_mirror - gitea_mirror - Gitea: Git with a cup of teaMay 06 00:55
schestowitzLet's hope all projects reject GitHub, which is proprietary software monopoly attemptMay 06 00:55
schestowitzhttps://github.com/gogs/gogs/issues/5862May 06 00:55
-TechBytesBot/#techbytes-github.com | Gogs is STILL vulnerable to a Remote Code Exploit (>6 months later) · Issue #5862 · gogs/gogs · GitHubMay 06 00:55
schestowitzhttps://pleroma.site/notice/9uic9lEpNL0B7tvquOMay 06 01:08
-TechBytesBot/#techbytes-pleroma.site | PleromaMay 06 01:08
schestowitz"Never mind the 300,000+ wounded etc. It's not a bomb. Out of 10,000, only 1 will die from COVID. Sad sure, not war. It's a infrastructure cluster fuck; not a monster killer"May 06 01:08
schestowitzhttps://pleroma.site/notice/9uigqZf8gl9vUguS6yMay 06 01:08
schestowitz" That's a lovely message. I felt it."May 06 01:08
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schestowitzhttps://pleroma.site/notice/9uiloGVVR7fnHC7d9EMay 06 01:08
schestowitz"May 06 01:08
schestowitzhttp://www.jamaicaobserver.com/latestnews/Jamaica_removed_from_US_trade_representative_watch_list?profile=1228May 06 01:08
schestowitzIP takes hold in Jamaica. You should know, most companies that file for bankruptcy in their home nation are able to secretly climb back to profitability simply from a few bites of the Jamaican econosphere. Once IP is here, it will spread to other islands. Intellectual Property shall never be eradicated.May 06 01:08
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schestowitz"May 06 01:08
-TechBytesBot/#techbytes-www.jamaicaobserver.com | Jamaica removed from US trade representative watch listMay 06 01:09
schestowitzhttps://pleroma.site/notice/9uimR1QHSAJVmr9t7gMay 06 01:09
schestowitz" not when all it has to do is behave like a pest infestation: shelter in an unseen place, multiply, return in force."May 06 01:09
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schestowitzhttps://pleroma.site/notice/9uisE7TcEXrQWTwvL6May 06 01:09
schestowitz" this c-sharp virus sounds very worrisome"May 06 01:09
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schestowitzhttps://pleroma.site/notice/9ujGYZjbHMyGr2iGdkMay 06 01:09
schestowitz"whats covid19"May 06 01:09
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schestowitzhttps://pleroma.site/notice/9ujHideneLwFs0pWTIMay 06 01:10
schestowitz" He was talking to the BBC a while back, but he also warned of a possible pandemic at a ted talk 5 years ago"May 06 01:10
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schestowitzHe repeatedly bribes the BBC to groom him as benevolent geniusMay 06 01:10
schestowitzhttps://pleroma.site/notice/9ujHrtDh9nJmkAYyumMay 06 01:10
schestowitz" I am guessing they will be first in line to refuse the covid 19 vaccine and the first in line to moan when they get covid19 and expect immediate treatment"May 06 01:10
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schestowitzhttps://pleroma.site/notice/9ujz4HTL6pmJSt2HCqMay 06 01:11
schestowitz" I remember when the old bookshop at DTU (I actually think the campus still was called DTH, but not quite sure) had a few of these on display - I don't think they ever sold any. Bloody marvellous machines...but rather pricey...."May 06 01:11
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schestowitzhttps://pleroma.site/notice/9ukHC2ql9lzPbeqHFQMay 06 01:11
schestowitz"May 06 01:11
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schestowitz I'm usually very critical of my employer but Microsoft do not advertise based on content of your inbox.May 06 01:11
schestowitzAds in Outlook are generic or based on other activity elsewhere on the web.May 06 01:11
schestowitz🤔May 06 01:11
schestowitz"May 06 01:11
schestowitzhttps://pleroma.site/notice/9ukKiVdHyiPs0HiHGiMay 06 01:11
schestowitz"Considering the managers there use Macs when giving presentations, am not surprised."May 06 01:11
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schestowitzhttps://pleroma.site/notice/9ukgM3y6LomupD9MQqMay 06 01:12
schestowitz"May 06 01:12
schestowitz<cyn>they should design a phone that -- faster than the eyes see -- swabs a nostril and performs analyses for various microbes, while the user is making a call.</cyn>May 06 01:12
schestowitzTemperature? I am a hot-temperatured person. Always above 38°C in warm weather. How will that judge me?May 06 01:12
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schestowitz"May 06 01:12
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