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schestowitzhttps://pleroma.site/notice/9tovBvcfLd64IIZnA8Apr 08 05:21
schestowitz" If you are going to call british prisons death camps and detention centres concentration camps then you really need to think of some bigasstitty name for the actual death camps used by the Nazis otherwise the terms become meaningless and you clear actual nazis of any blame."Apr 08 05:21
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schestowitzI did not say they are (but can become that, in times of crises)Apr 08 05:22
schestowitzhttps://pleroma.site/notice/9toOwVXUqViqWMlGaWApr 08 05:23
schestowitz"People are being reported as death due to covid19 even when tested negative! Numbers are suspect."Apr 08 05:23
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schestowitzhttps://pleroma.site/notice/9toBjRAcTneBnnUwcaApr 08 05:23
schestowitz"Apr 08 05:23
schestowitzreferences to epstein might be incorrect,Apr 08 05:23
schestowitzsince we don't know what he really didApr 08 05:23
schestowitz"Apr 08 05:23
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schestowitzhttps://pleroma.site/notice/9tovFMIqbinxuVwTLMApr 08 05:23
schestowitz"Plus twitter isn't loading for me. Can you not refer to a toot from the fediverse?"Apr 08 05:23
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schestowitzNo toot that I can seeApr 08 05:24
schestowitzhttps://pleroma.site/notice/9tnwRDq1oKmTvcit4CApr 08 05:25
schestowitz"(but yes, the larger relationship between IBM and the nazi regime is certainly something that makes me unhappy about buying IBM products.  unfortunately, POWER is the only real viable alternative to x86 right now.  hoping that the new ThunderX3 stuff is actually good...)"Apr 08 05:25
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schestowitzhttps://pleroma.site/notice/9tnwIQfCkzIH6ET320Apr 08 05:25
schestowitz"mainframe computers did not yet exist during the holocaust"Apr 08 05:25
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schestowitzAral and others expanded on this in the commentsApr 08 05:25
schestowitzhttps://pleroma.site/notice/9tnvpsglTsq3cVaIj2Apr 08 05:26
schestowitz"wow Twitter such a reliable news source"Apr 08 05:26
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schestowitzhttps://pleroma.site/notice/9tnmJ7EJUtxRZhZtmCApr 08 05:27
schestowitz"I still feel like the only way he'll win is if Biden gets it and dies and he doesn't."Apr 08 05:27
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schestowitzhttps://pleroma.site/notice/9tnWqY3RBdOj3kPXEWApr 08 05:27
schestowitz"Apr 08 05:27
schestowitzI'd like to know more about this.Apr 08 05:27
schestowitzWhat are the names of such publishing houses?Apr 08 05:27
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schestowitzWhy would such lawyers want to do this, if it were not to support their clients in politics and business?Apr 08 05:27
schestowitz"Apr 08 05:27
schestowitzhttps://pleroma.site/notice/9tnWI16bBSmX1YQKPoApr 08 05:28
schestowitz"yes, I need to read more unbiased CNN articles."Apr 08 05:28
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schestowitzhttps://pleroma.site/notice/9tnF5T9Nu6691D9qASApr 08 05:28
schestowitz"@schestowitz but it has literally no mention of GNU whatsoever. Maybe they imply it by Userland mode but ih, still not naming the names~"Apr 08 05:28
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schestowitzhttps://pleroma.site/notice/9tmllxfjojvdDZdWrIApr 08 05:29
schestowitz""all new *confirmed* cases"\Apr 08 05:29
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schestowitzhttps://pleroma.site/notice/9tm9nf2SGs3xkQe5T6Apr 08 05:29
schestowitz"wanna make suer everyone knows that the cdc said its not mandatory its optional"Apr 08 05:29
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schestowitzhttps://pleroma.site/notice/9tm2zYGOaTrcWytBFgApr 08 05:30
schestowitz" I am liking #pypy. When MSFT destroys python, pypy should still be."Apr 08 05:30
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schestowitzhttps://pleroma.site/notice/9tlxdzQYPeNcdWXWYiApr 08 05:31
schestowitz"I see renewed aggression against UN Agenda21. The document is in the open for anyone to read. In it, these behaviour of government are denounced. That was from 1992. The general theme of that document is self-sustenance. If a country locks its borders they will not suffer as much as when they are open to globalization and exploitation by foreign powers. https://sustainabledevelopment.un.org/content/documents/Agenda21.pdf"\Apr 08 05:31
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-TechBytesBot/#techbytes- ( status 404 @ https://sustainabledevelopment.un.org/content/documents/Agenda21.pdf"\ )Apr 08 05:31
schestowitzhttps://pleroma.site/notice/9tlsnBYAD6xn4OfG9QApr 08 05:31
schestowitz"Indeed but maybe people will take the queens advice and reflect, then once the crisis is over, take action."Apr 08 05:31
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schestowitzhttps://pleroma.site/notice/9tl8KZoaJsIC2KlX84Apr 08 05:32
schestowitz"@schestowitz Looks good will try and take a look later."Apr 08 05:32
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schestowitzhttps://pleroma.site/notice/9tkllZZd1i7wA4fpZ2Apr 08 05:32
schestowitz" this is the "Rise of Inner Source""Apr 08 05:32
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schestowitz>> Can/should we make copies of missing Groklaw pages/documents? I don'tApr 08 06:03
schestowitz>> think Groklaw would oppose...Apr 08 06:03
schestowitz>>Apr 08 06:03
schestowitz> The last address I had for PJ was from 2013: p.jones@mykolab.comApr 08 06:03
schestowitz>Apr 08 06:03
schestowitz> It would be best to check in with her first.  Maybe she could even getApr 08 06:03
schestowitz> the static pages in place again.Apr 08 06:03
schestowitzI don't know if it works or whether she'd reply to anyway. Heck, I don't even know if she is still alive.Apr 08 06:03
schestowitzRe: wp-admin downApr 08 06:12
schestowitz> $ sudo systemctl status | head -n 7Apr 08 06:12
schestowitz> ● techrights.orgApr 08 06:12
schestowitz>     State: degradedApr 08 06:12
schestowitz>      Jobs: 0 queuedApr 08 06:12
schestowitz>    Failed: 1 unitsApr 08 06:12
schestowitz>     Since: Fri 2020-04-03 01:54:47 UTC; 5 days agoApr 08 06:12
schestowitz>    CGroup: /Apr 08 06:12
schestowitz>            ├─1 /usr/lib/systemd/systemd --switched-root --systemApr 08 06:12
schestowitz> --deserialize 22Apr 08 06:12
schestowitzIt is typical around this time. Backup is already niced, maybe we can improve that further.Apr 08 06:12
schestowitz> Wrong direction.  These show networking 'errors' caused by systemdApr 08 06:13
schestowitz> looking for eth0 instead of ens6.  The problem lies elsewhere.  wp-adminApr 08 06:13
schestowitz> is still down.Apr 08 06:13
schestowitz>Apr 08 06:13
schestowitz> $ sudo systemctl list-units --state=failed | head -n 3Apr 08 06:13
schestowitz>   UNIT            LOAD   ACTIVE SUB    DESCRIPTIONApr 08 06:13
schestowitz> ● network.service loaded failed failed LSB: Bring up/down networkingApr 08 06:13
schestowitzJudging by time of day, this is the usual thing. I've long thought about addressing it... but was not sure how.Apr 08 06:13
schestowitz> Seems working now.  What was up?Apr 08 06:15
schestowitzDaily backup+gzip.Apr 08 06:15
schestowitzThe gzip phase seems to have a bigger toll on performance.Apr 08 06:15
schestowitzThis might be worth dealing with now that we look into load balancing of sorts (only in the sense that we turn away some kinds of traffic under stress)Apr 08 06:15
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schestowitz>> Hald an hour ago I had to stop and start again httpd because load wasApr 08 06:51
schestowitz>> near 100. But not categories were the culprit.Apr 08 06:51
schestowitz>>Apr 08 06:51
schestowitz>> Any thoughts?Apr 08 06:51
schestowitz>Apr 08 06:51
schestowitz> I'm not familiar with what the logs are showing.  I have apachetop nowApr 08 06:51
schestowitz> in a tmux session as root.  It will stay running even throughApr 08 06:51
schestowitz> disconnections.Apr 08 06:51
schestowitz>Apr 08 06:51
schestowitz> You can connect to it tooApr 08 06:51
schestowitz>Apr 08 06:51
schestowitz> sudo tmux new-session -s roy -t apachetopApr 08 06:51
schestowitz>Apr 08 06:51
schestowitz> However it would be useful to have a historic record of where the loadApr 08 06:51
schestowitz> /was/ over the last 24 hours.  Can apachetop do that somehow?Apr 08 06:51
schestowitz /root/monitor-techrights.sh  is set to show top and expose apache requests on a very short timespan chunks, which I suppose is useful when you have it in sight all the time. It's literally on my right-hand, the mousepad is placed on top of the keyboard of the laptop with monitoring. Better illustrated with a photo.Apr 08 06:51
schestowitzApachetop would probably take much RAM and CPU to show it for longer timespans given the size of the logs. But I am not sure, I have not tried; sounds like a way of getting site stats rather than almost-real-time issue detection.Apr 08 06:51
schestowitzI try not to check stats (file sizes only) as it can be addictive and a distraction from what truly matters.Apr 08 06:51
schestowitz>>  /root/monitor-techrights.sh  is set to show top and expose apacheApr 08 07:26
schestowitz>> requests on a very short timespan chunks, which I suppose is useful whenApr 08 07:26
schestowitz>> you have it in sight all the time. It's literally on my right-hand, theApr 08 07:26
schestowitz>> mousepad is placed on top of the keyboard of the laptop with monitoring.Apr 08 07:26
schestowitz>> Better illustrated with a photo.Apr 08 07:26
schestowitz> I've now put that script into a service file so that it is startedApr 08 07:26
schestowitz> automatically:Apr 08 07:26
schestowitz>Apr 08 07:26
schestowitz> httpd-apachetop.serviceApr 08 07:26
schestowitz>Apr 08 07:26
schestowitz> It should start without intervention next reboot.Apr 08 07:26
schestowitz>Apr 08 07:26
schestowitz>> Apachetop would probably take much RAM and CPU to show it for longerApr 08 07:26
schestowitz>> timespans given the size of the logs. But I am not sure, I have notApr 08 07:26
schestowitz>> tried; sounds like a way of getting site stats rather thanApr 08 07:26
schestowitz>> almost-real-time issue detection.Apr 08 07:26
schestowitz>>Apr 08 07:26
schestowitz>> I try not to check stats (file sizes only) as it can be addictive and aApr 08 07:26
schestowitz>> distraction from what truly matters.Apr 08 07:26
schestowitz> Agreed.Apr 08 07:26
schestowitzI could tell stories about how I treated web stats around 2003 onwards. Looking back, I wasted a lot of time on it; it told/taught me NOTHING about how to improve. Just ego.Apr 08 07:26
schestowitzLike social control media, there's also an addictive element to it.Apr 08 07:26
schestowitz>> It's a very old one, one of the latest things in fact. I cannot evenApr 08 07:42
schestowitz>> remember when I put that in place, but almost certainly a decade back.Apr 08 07:42
schestowitz> I refactored that one a while back.  It's not in git yet.  I've movedApr 08 07:42
schestowitz> it, updated the crontab, and have added it to git.Apr 08 07:42
schestowitzOh, excellent.Apr 08 07:42
schestowitzSee the new article about GitHub. Published minutes ago. I think these articles have broad reach and I think FSF works on its "social" replacement because of pressure we put on RMS.Apr 08 07:42
schestowitz>> Caveats: if the server crashes during backuop it can leave aroundApr 08 07:42
schestowitz>> uncompressed stale files, which can fill up partitions.Apr 08 07:43
schestowitz> Yes, that is probably best dealt with manually.Apr 08 07:43
schestowitzIs there a quick way to mock-test the apache config swapper? Without downtime?Apr 08 07:43
schestowitz>> I never looked into reusing something more cunning.Apr 08 07:43
schestowitz> Maybe a script could look for leftover files from incomplete backups andApr 08 07:43
schestowitz> post a notification?Apr 08 07:43
schestowitzIt so rarely becomes necessary that coding such a thing would take a lot longer than making a mental note if a reboot occurs at a particularly sensitive time.Apr 08 07:43
schestowitzPS - I have links.txt loaded, but I work until 9am (same tomorrow and Friday; weekend will be off work)Apr 08 07:43
schestowitzPSS - still have an orphaned monitor here, not sure how to put it to use, RasPi still an option. I need to think about my workflow and what would complement it rather than be just another screen. I'd have 7 monitors if I attached it to the old Chromebook. How to use a 7th monitor? No clue. Seems redundant. Even a 6th is a stretch. Good for IRC and watching bird videos with sounds in the background.Apr 08 07:43
schestowitz>> BSD would be 'step back' for a number of reasonsApr 08 08:14
schestowitz> yes, i keep teasing people about it actually. and im not just teasing-- a linux fork would be better. but i think if there was anybody to do that, oliva would know about them. maybe not-- but they have yet to materialise. ive written about this before, even on techrights, so theres not much i can say about it that i havent said already.Apr 08 08:14
schestowitz>Apr 08 08:14
schestowitz>> Let me think what else we can do to raise awareness about github.Apr 08 08:14
schestowitz> tom really hit it out of the fucking park with his followup. we talked about it of course, but we didnt spend time on a preview and it exceeded my expectations. accessible and on subjects i know little about. i kept him up to speed on my article as it progressed, and he wanted to cover angles i couldnt, which i was excited about him doing. he did an amazing job.Apr 08 08:14
schestowitz>Apr 08 08:14
schestowitz>  i encouraged him to use the same license as the wiki-- it would be better if the license bit began with "creative commons" and ended with "3.0" but at least there is clear intent.Apr 08 08:14
schestowitzMaybe you or I (and both) should do a followup on itApr 08 08:14
schestowitzHe proved what I;'ve long said about GitHub being a subsidised loss leader.Apr 08 08:14
schestowitzWe should keep on this topic. RMS reads it all.Apr 08 08:14
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schestowitz"Apr 08 11:38
schestowitzHi,Apr 08 11:38
schestowitzI tried phoning, but it says I should contact electronically instead.Apr 08 11:38
schestowitzI've been watching this unit for months and was prepared to arrange to visit; however, I noticed it was sold twice (at 125k, 5k above asking price, then 110k). Why is it relisted now? Is there something fishy of seller's remorse? Please can you clarify?Apr 08 11:38
schestowitz"Apr 08 11:38
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