●● IRC: #techbytes @ Techrights IRC Network: Monday, June 08, 2026 ●● ● Jun 08 [01:30] *x-amarsh04 has quit (Quit: Konversation terminated!) [01:34] *x-amarsh04 (~amarsh04@atu2uhbvxaeyw.irc) has joined #techbytes ● Jun 08 [05:06] schestowitz[TR2] https://www.thelayoff.com/t/1krpqv7q6 [05:06] -TechBytesBot/#techbytes- ( status 403 @ https://www.thelayoff.com/t/1krpqv7q6 ) [05:06] schestowitz[TR2] " [05:06] schestowitz[TR2] ""In summary: You are saying ? [05:06] schestowitz[TR2] IBM has been hijacked by the cabal tribe of Indians, and there is no options for US based employees. [05:06] schestowitz[TR2] Either find a job somewhere else (unlikely, if the US employees is 40+. How can the employee pay for the skyrocketing cost of healthcare alone) or live under the bridge. The slimy blood su-king Indian parasite at the top makes is fat $$$$ bonus. [05:06] schestowitz[TR2] 12 hours ago by Anonymous [05:06] schestowitz[TR2] | 2 reactions (+2/-0) | Reply [05:06] schestowitz[TR2] Post ID: @3gd+1krpqv7q6 [05:06] schestowitz[TR2] +2 [05:06] schestowitz[TR2] @OP. Lets take a peek at your 5 points. [05:06] schestowitz[TR2] Upskill in AI and Cloud. I agree, but keep in mind IBM has moved almost all AI development to India (why. Because India employees work for 1/3 the price), and they just announced that Google is the partner of choice for cloud. (Why. Because cloud is HW intensive and IBM wants out of the HW business) NET NET IBM NA is downsizing onshore AI and cloud quickly [05:06] schestowitz[TR2] Show high value and impact. Sorry that role moved to India and NA employees are viewed as a cost [05:06] schestowitz[TR2] Be visible and adaptable. I would redefine that to be innovative. Sorry but yet again IBMs strategy is to buy innovation and layoff the legacy employees [05:06] schestowitz[TR2] Avoid routine roles Absolutely true as AI will replace them [05:06] schestowitz[TR2] Network internally Absolutely true, but you quantify by saying align with new and growing teams. Within IBM NA there are no new and growing teams. (See number 1 above they went to India) IBMs desired result for IBM NA is to 1/2 the employee population by 2030, not grow it [05:06] schestowitz[TR2] 12 hours ago by Anonymous [05:06] schestowitz[TR2] | 2 reactions (+2/-0) | Reply [05:06] schestowitz[TR2] Post ID: @3gc+1krpqv7q6 [05:06] schestowitz[TR2] +3 [05:06] schestowitz[TR2] The only way to greatly reduce your risk of being laid off in the current IBM is to become a band B or band A execs personal pet. Is that really the life you want to live? Amazing skills and a proven track record of walking on water help a little bit during layoffs, but not much. (I have been on the IBM mgmt side of layoffs and PIPs. HR and the execs bend and deform the rules of ethics to justify whatever they want. The lawyers [05:06] schestowitz[TR2] make these perversions appear legal on the surface. Shareholder interests are not the primary concern either.) ● Jun 08 [06:26] *psydroid2 (~psydroid@yu29f4abyrsnc.irc) has joined #techbytes [06:50] *psydroid2 has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) ● Jun 08 [07:30] *psydruid (~psydruid@jevhxkzmtrbww.irc) has left #techbytes [07:41] *psydroid2 (~psydroid@yu29f4abyrsnc.irc) has joined #techbytes [07:41] schestowitz[TR2] was just reading "https://techrights.org/n/2026/06/05/Slop_Has_no_ROI_an_Economy_Built_on_False_Assumptions_of_Slop_i.shtml" in paragraph 7 there is the phrase "so it", i think you mean "so if" . [07:41] schestowitz[TR2] fixed, ty [07:41] -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-techrights.org | Techrights Slop Has no ROI, an Economy Built on False Assumptions of Slop is Doomed [07:44] *psydroid2 has quit (Quit: KVIrc 5.2.6 Quasar http://www.kvirc.net/) ● Jun 08 [08:51] *psydruid (~psydruid@jevhxkzmtrbww.irc) has joined #techbytes ● Jun 08 [10:46] *liberty_box has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [10:46] *rianne has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [10:47] *psydruid (~psydruid@jevhxkzmtrbww.irc) has left #techbytes [10:48] *rianne has quit (Ping timeout: 120 seconds) ● Jun 08 [11:24] *liberty_box (~liberty@agjs4m3wtva2n.irc) has joined #techbytes [11:24] *rianne (~rianne@agjs4m3wtva2n.irc) has joined #techbytes [11:24] *rianne (~rianne@freenode-gvn.goo.k31cok.IP) has joined #techbytes ● Jun 08 [14:09] *psydruid (~psydruid@jevhxkzmtrbww.irc) has joined #techbytes ● Jun 08 [19:26] *psydroid2 (~psydroid@yu29f4abyrsnc.irc) has joined #techbytes ● Jun 08 [20:40] schestowitz[TR2] https://www.thelayoff.com/t/1ktfk2spa#replies [20:40] -TechBytesBot/#techbytes- ( status 403 @ https://www.thelayoff.com/t/1ktfk2spa#replies ) [20:41] schestowitz[TR2] "YES. [20:41] schestowitz[TR2] "The Emperor Has No Clothes" is a famous fable by Hans Christian Andersen. [20:41] schestowitz[TR2] It follows a vain emperor who is tricked by con artists into buying an "invisible" suit. Terrified of looking incompetent, his subjects and officials pretend to see it until a child cries out the truth. [20:41] schestowitz[TR2] The Scam: Two swindlers pose as weavers, promising to make a magical suit of clothes that is invisible to anyone who is stupid or unfit for their job. [20:41] schestowitz[TR2] The Charade: Neither the emperor nor his ministers can see the clothes, but they pretend to admire them to avoid appearing foolish or incompetent. [20:41] schestowitz[TR2] The Parade: The emperor parades through the streets in his "new clothes". Terrified of the social consequences, the townspeople cheer his invisible garments. [20:41] schestowitz[TR2] The Truth: A small child, unaware of the social pressure to lie, blurts out, "But he hasn't got anything on!" [20:41] schestowitz[TR2] The Aftermath: The crowd realizes the child is right and starts echoing the truth, but the emperor proudly finishes his parade, choosing to keep up his delusion rather than lose face. [20:41] schestowitz[TR2] 5 hours ago by Anonymous [20:41] schestowitz[TR2] | 4 reactions (+4/-0) | Reply [20:41] schestowitz[TR2] Post ID: @h9+1ktfk2spa [20:41] schestowitz[TR2] +2 [20:41] schestowitz[TR2] @gv they ironic part too is they still act like they are IBM of old. They IBM from 20-30 years ago. Same pompous swagger. When then rest of the world is looking at them very very differently. Also they rarely partner with a titan company or current leader because that would expose them and also put them in their place. [20:41] schestowitz[TR2] 7 hours ago by Anonymous [20:41] schestowitz[TR2] | 2 reactions (+2/-0) | Reply [20:41] schestowitz[TR2] Post ID: @gw+1ktfk2spa [20:41] schestowitz[TR2] +5 [20:41] schestowitz[TR2] IBM has been hiring incompetent and dishonest people for quite some time now and this is what you get. I admire the whistle blower and laugh at the IBM spokes "person" who is a mouth piece of what IBM legal tells them to say. EVERY thing about IBM is an embarassment. Noting is made anymore; they buy other companies. They hire and promote based on age, skin color, s-x etc. They put people of PIPs like brushing your teeth. They lie t [20:41] schestowitz[TR2] o employees, "partners" haha, suppliers, governments etc. Gerstner got far too much credit for "saving IBM" but I truly think IBM has crashed and is burning and is not saveable. It would take an outsider and it would be a 5-10 project to flush out all the crud at IBM while maintaining sales and stock price so it will not happen. It will either plod along like Macys or be spliy up which it should have been since they have no cohesiv [20:41] schestowitz[TR2] e strategy for the 200+ companies they have bought or flame out like Woolworths, KMart, Toys R Us etc. I think they will take the easy path as they always do and just plod along and keep lying about everything. [20:41] schestowitz[TR2] 8 hours ago by Anonymous [20:41] schestowitz[TR2] | 5 reactions (+5/-0) | Reply [20:41] schestowitz[TR2] Post ID: @gv+1ktfk2spa [20:41] schestowitz[TR2] +1 [20:41] schestowitz[TR2] Bob says "Danger Arvind, danger!" [20:41] schestowitz[TR2] 19 hours ago by Anonymous [20:41] schestowitz[TR2] | 5 reactions (+3/-2) | Reply [20:41] schestowitz[TR2] Post ID: @em+1ktfk2spa [20:41] schestowitz[TR2] +13 [20:41] schestowitz[TR2] Jeez - at IBM, ethics and business conduct often feel more like suggestions than actual requirements. [20:41] schestowitz[TR2] " [20:44] schestowitz[TR2] https://www.thelayoff.com/t/1ktfkx7x8#replies [20:44] -TechBytesBot/#techbytes- ( status 403 @ https://www.thelayoff.com/t/1ktfkx7x8#replies ) [20:44] schestowitz[TR2] " [20:44] schestowitz[TR2] I have no idea how so many people hate 1 man. However I am not surprised. I saw many posts of how happy people were when Mr Gerstner passed away. Where is the humanity? [20:44] schestowitz[TR2] 56 minutes ago by Anonymous [20:44] schestowitz[TR2] | 2 reactions (+0/-2) | Reply [20:44] schestowitz[TR2] Post ID: @j5+1ktfkx7x8 [20:44] schestowitz[TR2] +3 [20:44] schestowitz[TR2] @h7 The lies spew hot and thick from Arvind's mouth. How does he sleep at night. [20:44] schestowitz[TR2] 3 hours ago by Anonymous [20:44] schestowitz[TR2] | 3 reactions (+3/-0) | Reply [20:44] schestowitz[TR2] Post ID: @hq+1ktfkx7x8 [20:44] schestowitz[TR2] -3 [20:44] schestowitz[TR2] @h5 [20:44] schestowitz[TR2] The hate continues to bubble up thick and hot like lava. Stop dehumanizing people [20:44] schestowitz[TR2] 5 hours ago by Anonymous [20:44] schestowitz[TR2] | 3 reactions (+0/-3) | Reply [20:44] schestowitz[TR2] Post ID: @h7+1ktfkx7x8 [20:44] schestowitz[TR2] +3 [20:44] schestowitz[TR2] @gw , I agree, IBM is not charity. [20:44] schestowitz[TR2] Why is the slimy Indian blood su-king parasite receiving $$$$ millions in bonuses ? He is completely incompetent. [20:44] schestowitz[TR2] 6 hours ago by Anonymous [20:44] schestowitz[TR2] | 5 reactions (+4/-1) | Reply [20:44] schestowitz[TR2] Post ID: @h5+1ktfkx7x8 [20:44] schestowitz[TR2] +4 [20:44] schestowitz[TR2] @gw IBM is a business and under Arvind Krishna, it is a failing business at that. That is why the IBM management resorts to financial engineering, layoffs, PIPS, questionable acquisitions and coverups of wrong doing. [20:44] schestowitz[TR2] Did you read the story on June 5, 2026 about IBM Security and how many times IBM infrastructure had been breached by Chinese Hackers ? No less than 56000 times. While these incidents happened between 2013 and 2016, it says a lot about the integrity of the people who manage(d) IBM Security and how well they ignore(d) or cover(ed) up data breaches at IBM. And it says a lot about the tools that IBM develops and sells to IBM customers [20:44] schestowitz[TR2] - how good are they if they can't even protect IBM's network from attacks ? [20:44] schestowitz[TR2] Very simply, it comes back to following "Greed is Good" philosophy by IBM Management where the end justifies the means. Anything goes as long as the IBM executives get their bonuses. That's why the IBM Business Conduct Guidelines are nothing but a sad joke. [20:44] schestowitz[TR2] 6 hours ago by Anonymous [20:44] schestowitz[TR2] | 4 reactions (+4/-0) | Reply [20:44] schestowitz[TR2] Post ID: @h2+1ktfkx7x8 [20:44] schestowitz[TR2] -7 [20:44] schestowitz[TR2] @f5 [20:44] schestowitz[TR2] IBM isn't a charity, it's a business. The question isn't whether a company makes moneyevery successful company does. The question is whether it creates value while doing so. [20:44] schestowitz[TR2] IBM technology runs banks, airlines, governments, hospitals, retailers, and critical infrastructure around the world. Its mainframes process enormous volumes of global financial transactions daily. IBM Research has contributed to advances in AI, semiconductors, cybersecurity, quantum computing, and enterprise software for decades. [20:44] schestowitz[TR2] You can criticize acquisitions, layoffs, or management decisions. That's fair. But claiming IBM isn't a technology company because it makes acquisitions is like claiming Microsoft, Cisco, Oracle, Broadcom, or Google aren't technology companies. Acquisitions have been part of the tech industry for generations. [20:44] schestowitz[TR2] As for 'what has IBM done for society,' you're typing that on technology built on decades of innovations from companies like IBM. The better question is: what evidence do you have that IBM creates no value besides repeating talking points about greed and financial engineering? [20:44] schestowitz[TR2] 7 hours ago by Anonymous [20:44] schestowitz[TR2] | 7 reactions (+0/-7) | Reply [20:44] schestowitz[TR2] Post ID: @gw+1ktfkx7x8 [20:44] schestowitz[TR2] +5 [20:44] schestowitz[TR2] @ee - Do you really see IBM as a tech company? IBM has become a symbol of insatiable corporate greed and is operating like a private equity firm and the only engineering you see is the financial engineering. Modus Operandi - Rub a debt, acquire a company for its IP by offering cash then get rid of its employees and keep the clients. Distribute the acquired sales channels to yes men and yes women of the senior executives. Look at th [20:44] schestowitz[TR2] e shameless postings on social media sites from some of these executives at the top where they talk about how IBM is outperforming other tech companies. You talk about the valuations not the value add. What is it that you guys at IBM have done for the betterment of the society? [20:44] schestowitz[TR2] " ● Jun 08 [21:54] *psydroid2 has quit (Quit: KVIrc 5.2.6 Quasar http://www.kvirc.net/)