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schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/BrideOfLinux/status/1170773839715979271Sep 09 00:28
-TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@BrideOfLinux: These days, Linux and FOSS face plenty of more serious threats than Redmond: Microsoft's Takedown Plot - Part II: S… https://t.co/cgFC6b7OocSep 09 00:28
-TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@BrideOfLinux: These days, Linux and FOSS face plenty of more serious threats than Redmond: Microsoft's Takedown Plot - Part II: S… https://t.co/cgFC6b7OocSep 09 00:28
schestowitz"These days, Linux and FOSS face plenty of more serious threats than Redmond: Microsoft's Takedown Plot - Part II: Stallman Appears to Have Fallen Into Microsoft's Trap"Sep 09 00:28
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/BrideOfLinux/status/1170788972374777858Sep 09 00:29
-TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@BrideOfLinux: My answer is that choice is an essential aspect of freedom: Microsoft's Takedown Plot - Part III: Making GNU/Linux… https://t.co/Wvd2IqmDcESep 09 00:29
-TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@BrideOfLinux: My answer is that choice is an essential aspect of freedom: Microsoft's Takedown Plot - Part III: Making GNU/Linux… https://t.co/Wvd2IqmDcESep 09 00:29
schestowitz"My answer is that choice is an essential aspect of freedom: Microsoft's Takedown Plot - Part III: Making GNU/Linux About 'Choice' Instead of Freedom (as in Software Freedom)"Sep 09 00:29
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/BrideOfLinux/status/1170736121246101505Sep 09 00:29
-TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@BrideOfLinux: The first part of Techrights' official reaction to RMS's Microsoft visit: Microsoft's Takedown Plot - Part I: When… https://t.co/UugVTSYCldSep 09 00:29
-TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@BrideOfLinux: The first part of Techrights' official reaction to RMS's Microsoft visit: Microsoft's Takedown Plot - Part I: When… https://t.co/UugVTSYCldSep 09 00:29
schestowitz"The first part of Techrights' official reaction to RMS's Microsoft visit: Microsoft's Takedown Plot - Part I: When Linux Actually Means Microsoft"Sep 09 00:29
schestowitz[19:40] <danielinux> yes indeed, and cloud lock-in. And stomping on standards. So I see the market fit there, where standards for cloud communication and firmware upgrades are thin and just taking off.Sep 09 00:33
schestowitz[19:43] <danielinux> I saw a nice panel at RIOT-OS summit in Helsinki this week. Video will be out soon.Sep 09 00:33
schestowitz[19:43] <danielinux> https://summit.riot-os.org/2019/blog/speakers/jari-arkko/Sep 09 00:33
schestowitz[19:45] <danielinux> it contains a call for action to not trust third parties for key management in IoT devicesSep 09 00:33
schestowitz[19:48] <danielinux> Microsoft is only one of the actors in this context. I've been following ARM's attempts of acquisition of GPL projects in embedded for many years. For some reason they push to remove copyleft from the projects they want to acquire.Sep 09 00:33
schestowitz[19:48] <danielinux> (that's how PolarSSL became mbedTLS at the time and lost its GPL)Sep 09 00:33
-TechBytesBot/#techbytes-summit.riot-os.org | Jari Arkko – RIOT Summit 2019Sep 09 00:33
schestowitz[19:50] <danielinux> the old method of hiring the project manager to remove copyleft from the project -- see also FreeRTOS becoming Amazon FreeRTOS (this time GPL->MIT)Sep 09 00:33
schestowitz[19:54] <danielinux> I have a long track record of these, and Jaromil has more cases he found out about in other contexts, I am meeting with him this week to collect ideas for a talk to spread awareness, we'll be in touch if you are interestedSep 09 00:33
schestowitz[19:55] <danielinux> we both think we need a new way to talk about copyleft to software developers, but also to people taking decisionsSep 09 00:33
schestowitz[19:59] <danielinux> apologies if all this sounds random, I just wanted to share with you part of my current activity since I saw you mentioning my toot in the openwashing postSep 09 00:33
schestowitz[20:19] <danielinux> sorry I was wrong about polarSSL, looks like they re-instated a GPL for mbedTLS recently (probably due to compatibility problems with Apache2 in GPL2 projects)Sep 09 00:33
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schestowitzhttps://joindiaspora.com/posts/15871968#0dca7fb0af1d0137097b7a163ef10931Sep 09 06:29
-TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: #microsoft loves [anything]Sep 09 06:29
-TechBytesBot/#techbytes- Photo by schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: https://joindiaspora.com/uploads/images/thumb_medium_dae7886135703e70974c.jpegSep 09 06:29
schestowitz"https://proxy.duckduckgo.com/iu/?u=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.solarnavigator.net%2Fimages%2Fdoctorwhodalek_gold.jpg&f=1"Sep 09 06:29
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schestowitzhttps://joindiaspora.com/posts/15881108#172d1f40afd20137b53e005056264835Sep 09 06:30
-TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: #microsoft in 2019 still commits a lot of crimes. The company depends on that. http://techrights.org/2019/07/25/microsoft-bribery-2019/Sep 09 06:30
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-TechBytesBot/#techbytes--> techrights.org | Microsoft Caught Committing Yet More Bribery Crimes, But Nobody Gets Arrested | TechrightsSep 09 06:30
schestowitzhttps://joindiaspora.com/posts/15881108#eb8ca920afdd013709877a163ef10931Sep 09 06:30
-TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: #microsoft in 2019 still commits a lot of crimes. The company depends on that. http://techrights.org/2019/07/25/microsoft-bribery-2019/Sep 09 06:31
schestowitz"It rarely ends up being investigated and if they(sic) happens it’ll just shell out some money."Sep 09 06:31
schestowitzhttps://joindiaspora.com/posts/15895824#73475070b4a7013709877a163ef10931Sep 09 06:31
-TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: #microsoft #github has a new version of #systemd for a choice [sic] of init system https://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=systemd-243-releasedSep 09 06:31
schestowitz"Most of my systems are free of it."Sep 09 06:31
-TechBytesBot/#techbytes--> www.phoronix.com | Systemd 243 Released With Many Changes - PhoronixSep 09 06:31
schestowitzhttps://joindiaspora.com/posts/15895824#3f4ecb00b4d80137098f7a163ef10931Sep 09 06:32
schestowitz"Sep 09 06:32
schestowitzMost of my systems are free of it.Sep 09 06:32
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schestowitzWill Hill - about 3 hours agoSep 09 06:32
-TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: #microsoft #github has a new version of #systemd for a choice [sic] of init system https://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=systemd-243-releasedSep 09 06:32
schestowitzNow that IBM owns Red Hat, and much of Gnome by extension, it’s going to be harder to avoid systemd. It’s already a pain in the rear.Sep 09 06:32
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schestowitztomgrz - about 3 hours agoSep 09 06:32
schestowitzIt is precisely the gratuitous dependencies that are the biggest problem with systemd.Sep 09 06:32
schestowitzIn the long run I don’t think systemd will prevail. Too many technically expert people can see that this is not the way to go. I’m very impressed with what is happening with Guix and GuixSD, and Devuan seems to be doing OK.Sep 09 06:32
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schestowitzhttps://joindiaspora.com/posts/15840799#376eefa0aee70137097b7a163ef10931Sep 09 06:33
-TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: "The regulator says that #Microsoft is remotely collecting data from users of Windows Home and #Windows Pro, a discovery made while testing #privacy protection changes in Windows made last year." https://thehill.com/policy/cybersecurity/458945-dutch-regulator-looking-into-possible-microsoft-windows-privacy-breachSep 09 06:33
schestowitz"With GNU/Linux you can resist what the people above try to impose on you, unwanted changes… Interestingly, importantly, you can take this idea as far as you personally want or need. It is now possible to obtain or assemble a blob-free computer, and possible to install and maintain all of the software directly from the source-code, with the GNU guix systems. In some ways, free software is stronger than ever."Sep 09 06:33
-TechBytesBot/#techbytes--> thehill.com | Dutch regulator looking into possible Microsoft Windows privacy breach | TheHillSep 09 06:33
schestowitzhttps://joindiaspora.com/posts/15840799#376eefa0aee70137097b7a163ef10931Sep 09 06:34
schestowitz"With GNU/Linux you can resist what the people above try to impose on you, unwanted changes… Interestingly, importantly, you can take this idea as far as you personally want or need. It is now possible to obtain or assemble a blob-free computer, and possible to install and maintain all of the software directly from the source-code, with the GNU guix systems. In some ways, free software is stronger than ever."Sep 09 06:34
schestowitz"Yet, there's still some way to go. :)"Sep 09 06:34
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schestowitz> Quite a thin selection of news this weekend.Sep 09 09:21
schestowitzVery much as expected. Can you suggest topics to cover as articles? We've postponed gym due to weather. I went yesterday.Sep 09 09:21
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/jeffreyneillong/status/1171063603174113281Sep 09 15:21
-TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@jeffreyneillong: @BrideOfLinux @schestowitz @mektronikSep 09 15:21

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