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| schestowitz | >> http://techrights.org/2020/10/07/empathy-for-provocateurs/ | Oct 09 02:36 |
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| schestowitz | >> | Oct 09 02:36 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-techrights.org | The Messages That Likely Got Eric S. Raymond or ‘ESR’ Banned by the OSI (Which He Co-founded) and Why That Still Matters | Techrights | Oct 09 02:36 | |
| schestowitz | >>> But not everybody agreed. “They do not assume bad faith,” said the | Oct 09 02:36 |
| schestowitz | >>> next comment. “They define ‘liberty and nondiscrimination’ in a | Oct 09 02:36 |
| schestowitz | >>> particular way that the other person, Eric Schulz, objectively opposes. | Oct 09 02:36 |
| schestowitz | >> | Oct 09 02:36 |
| schestowitz | >> YOU'VE GOT TO BE FUCKING KIDDING ME | Oct 09 02:36 |
| schestowitz | >> | Oct 09 02:36 |
| schestowitz | >>> The last comment said this: “They don’t assume bad faith, they are | Oct 09 02:36 |
| schestowitz | >>> accurate depictions of what Schultz wanted to do. | Oct 09 02:36 |
| schestowitz | >> | Oct 09 02:36 |
| schestowitz | >> Eric Schultz? | Oct 09 02:36 |
| schestowitz | >> | Oct 09 02:36 |
| schestowitz | >> https://wwahammy.com/on-safety-at-libreplanet/ | Oct 09 02:36 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-wwahammy.com | Is LibrePlanet Safe? | Oct 09 02:36 | |
| schestowitz | >> | Oct 09 02:36 |
| schestowitz | >> The same guy from the FSF coup? | Oct 09 02:36 |
| schestowitz | >> | Oct 09 02:36 |
| schestowitz | >> Seriously? | Oct 09 02:36 |
| schestowitz | > | Oct 09 02:36 |
| schestowitz | > Well... I'm having some trouble trying to quickly understand it all in | Oct 09 02:36 |
| schestowitz | > english during my lunch time, but I gotta tell you: it's ironic that a | Oct 09 02:37 |
| schestowitz | > message like yours starts with a quote like "not everybody agreed". :P | Oct 09 02:37 |
| schestowitz | > | Oct 09 02:37 |
| schestowitz | > What I don't fully understand is who's who in detail in the whole thing, | Oct 09 02:37 |
| schestowitz | > and specially what are Roy words and what is actually the "secret | Oct 09 02:37 |
| schestowitz | > informer" opinion. But it doesn't really matter to me, frankly: we need | Oct 09 02:37 |
| schestowitz | > DARVO defense fast, no matter who's the bad guy, the lesser evil, or | Oct 09 02:37 |
| schestowitz | > whatever. That poison is breaking entire countries apart (South Park | Oct 09 02:37 |
| schestowitz | > explained it last year using Trump as example), and Free Software is | Oct 09 02:37 |
| schestowitz | > clearly also vulnerable to it. That's the kind of stuff I'm insterested | Oct 09 02:37 |
| schestowitz | > in, as it's all clearly not about "beign right", but about resistance | Oct 09 02:37 |
| schestowitz | > against this abusers who couldn't care less if your name is RMS or ESR. | Oct 09 02:37 |
| schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/18890295#ebd051e0eb5e0138f8bc3a6137633966 | Oct 09 02:37 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@linux@joindiaspora.com: It seems like #Microsoft money for #Debian (conferences as conduits of bribes, not a new issue) has stopped for the first time in half a decade http://techrights.org/2020/08/29/debian-switzerland-money/ | Oct 09 02:37 | |
| schestowitz | "https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kBWtAVB-ME4" | Oct 09 02:37 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes--> techrights.org | Debian ‘Coup’ Followed by Harassment and Threats to Whistleblowers (at the Expense of Very Limited — Albeit Secret — Debian Funds) | Techrights | Oct 09 02:37 | |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-www.youtube.com | IAN MURDOCK MURDER COVERUP!!! MUST WATCH!!!! - YouTube | Oct 09 02:37 | |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/BrideOfLinux/status/1314299550526590976 | Oct 09 02:40 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@BrideOfLinux: It looks as if RMS is venturing out in public again: Richard Stallman to Give a Talk at the FSF's Anniversary This… https://t.co/2NDtq8oiAJ | Oct 09 02:40 | |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@BrideOfLinux: It looks as if RMS is venturing out in public again: Richard Stallman to Give a Talk at the FSF's Anniversary This… https://t.co/2NDtq8oiAJ | Oct 09 02:40 | |
| schestowitz | >> 1:46-1:53 | Oct 09 02:43 |
| schestowitz | >> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xhvIqrM4u-0 | Oct 09 02:43 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-www.youtube.com | What are the Unitary Patent and the Unified Patent Court? - YouTube | Oct 09 02:43 | |
| schestowitz | >> | Oct 09 02:43 |
| schestowitz | > It turns out that the problem was /just/ that particular video. Others | Oct 09 02:43 |
| schestowitz | > seem to be fine. I found a work-around. | Oct 09 02:43 |
| schestowitz | Ah, OK. Maybe I will find some more I thought would be appropriate for the site. | Oct 09 02:43 |
| schestowitz | > Home is at 81% already. Is there a space budget for videos? | Oct 09 02:44 |
| schestowitz | We can focus on smaller ones and reduce the backup retention span a bit. Esp. for TM in ~/archives. | Oct 09 02:44 |
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| schestowitz | > The reason I showed you those quotes from ESR is to show that | Oct 09 16:54 |
| schestowitz | > they may have had valid grounds, under their own CoC as they | Oct 09 16:54 |
| schestowitz | > normally interpret it, to say he violated it. | Oct 09 16:54 |
| schestowitz | ESR shows me other quotes of his, perhaps acting as a nismdirection. | Oct 09 16:54 |
| schestowitz | > That is significant because it invalidates the argument that they | Oct 09 16:54 |
| schestowitz | > banned him for the views he expressed, and mentioned the CoC | Oct 09 16:54 |
| schestowitz | > only as a phony excuse. They may indeed have had other motives | Oct 09 16:54 |
| schestowitz | > but citing the CoC was not, I think, just a disguise. | Oct 09 16:54 |
| schestowitz | I never said they "banned him for the views he expressed, and mentioned the CoC only as a phony excuse." (Or something to that effect) | Oct 09 16:54 |
| schestowitz | > They acted wrongly in how they handled it. They should have told him | Oct 09 16:54 |
| schestowitz | > what exactly they considered a violation, and they should have | Oct 09 16:54 |
| schestowitz | > discussed it with him before carrying it out. But that is a different | Oct 09 16:54 |
| schestowitz | > question. | Oct 09 16:54 |
| schestowitz | I agree with that statement. | Oct 09 16:54 |
| schestowitz | ====== | Oct 09 17:15 |
| schestowitz | > No worries about mix up today Roy, we can sort something out once the | Oct 09 17:15 |
| schestowitz | > weather's better, once Winter's out the way we'll sort something. | Oct 09 17:15 |
| schestowitz | Sorry about that. | Oct 09 17:15 |
| schestowitz | Just caught up with email (lots still unread). | Oct 09 17:16 |
| schestowitz | If only I knew I'd make different arrangement. We left to the gym shortly after you had phoned. | Oct 09 17:16 |
| schestowitz | I suggested phoning to quickly negotiate time/place. E-mail is too slow for this and I check it once a day, sometimes less. | Oct 09 17:16 |
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