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schestowitzEFF:Jan 11 08:03
schestowitz> Hello,Jan 11 08:03
schestowitz> Jan 11 08:03
schestowitz> Thank you for your email. We'll look into this.Jan 11 08:03
schestowitz> Jan 11 08:03
schestowitz> Best,Jan 11 08:03
schestowitzThank you! very much appreciated!Jan 11 08:03
schestowitzRegards,Jan 11 08:03
schestowitz> I understand and support this line that xxxxxxxx raises. It_is_  quiteJan 11 08:21
schestowitz> simply an accessibility issue. But also think we have to be veryJan 11 08:21
schestowitz> careful how that's worded.Jan 11 08:21
schestowitz> Jan 11 08:21
schestowitz> The trick the man performs by turning disadvantage into capital isJan 11 08:21
schestowitz> that it makes those who should unite in struggle compete forJan 11 08:21
schestowitz> victimhood. Each person experiences their disadvantage as exceptionalJan 11 08:21
schestowitz> and is insulted by others claiming parity.Jan 11 08:21
schestowitz> Jan 11 08:21
schestowitz> Your disabled friend xxxxxxxx, is probably feeling "How can he possiblyJan 11 08:21
schestowitz> compare not being able to access documents, when he doesn't know whatJan 11 08:21
schestowitz> it's like to have to piss in your pants because the toilet door isn'tJan 11 08:21
schestowitz> accessible" (that's just a real life account from a good-humoredJan 11 08:21
schestowitz> colleague of mine who is chair-bound since childhood from polio).Jan 11 08:21
schestowitz> Jan 11 08:21
schestowitz> Careful words are needed to make the case. I still don't thinkJan 11 08:21
schestowitz> I have the pitch of this [1] article right, but I;m open toJan 11 08:21
schestowitz> hear more from disabled/disadvantaged individuals who canJan 11 08:21
schestowitz> speak about the_feelings_  of that.Jan 11 08:21
schestowitz> Jan 11 08:22
schestowitz> [1]xxxxJan 11 08:22
schestowitz> Jan 11 08:22
schestowitz> Because I think what we share, in exclusion and frustration, are theJan 11 08:22
schestowitz> same_feelings_.Jan 11 08:22
schestowitz> Jan 11 08:22
schestowitz> How I try to turn that around is I, grateful for the ADVANTAGES I haveJan 11 08:22
schestowitz> as free software user. However, I am reluctant to "make capital" ofJan 11 08:22
schestowitz> that for reasons expressed above, and steer clear of casting SoftwareJan 11 08:22
schestowitz> Freedom as identity politics. I'd like the same rights and freedomsJan 11 08:22
schestowitz> for everyone.Jan 11 08:22
schestowitz>    > I had an epiphany some weeks ago, as I talked about software freedom toJan 11 08:22
schestowitz>    > a person on a wheelchair.  I found myself comparing her difficulties toJan 11 08:23
schestowitz>    > obtain documents or get government services because of inaccessibleJan 11 08:23
schestowitz>    > offices with mine because of intolerable software.Jan 11 08:23
schestowitz> Jan 11 08:23
schestowitz> I too describe this as an issue of "accessibility" -- whether a pageJan 11 08:23
schestowitz> is accessible from the Free World.Jan 11 08:23
schestowitz> Jan 11 08:23
schestowitz>    > It's not like either of us couldn't overcome the accessibility barriers.Jan 11 08:23
schestowitz>    > She could overcome the architectural barriers by getting off theJan 11 08:23
schestowitz>    > wheelchair and crawling to the office, just as I could overcome theJan 11 08:23
schestowitz>    > systemic barriers by "just" installing the software.  Easy, right?Jan 11 08:23
schestowitz>    > Except both of us would be giving up our dignity and self respect in theJan 11 08:23
schestowitz>    > process, to the point that the very idea is unthinkably humiliating toJan 11 08:23
schestowitz>    > each of us.Jan 11 08:23
schestowitz> Jan 11 08:23
schestowitz> That expresses it well.Jan 11 08:23
schestowitz> Jan 11 08:23
schestowitz>    > Now, some could argue that it's not a matter of accessibility to me,Jan 11 08:23
schestowitz>    > because there doesn't seem to be any defficiency involved in my case,Jan 11 08:23
schestowitz>    > it's "merely" an objection of conscience.Jan 11 08:23
schestowitz> Jan 11 08:23
schestowitz> The response to this that you've presented here describes how youJan 11 08:23
schestowitz> and I feel, but I don't think it will win support from those whoJan 11 08:23
schestowitz> don't feel this way.Jan 11 08:23
schestowitz> Jan 11 08:23
schestowitz> To show non-free-software-supporters why this is important, I describeJan 11 08:23
schestowitz> it as matter of security.  That is true -- running a nonfree app isJan 11 08:23
schestowitz> insecure, and so is running nonfree JS code (it often snoops on usersJan 11 08:23
schestowitz> and profiles them).Jan 11 08:23
schestowitz> Jan 11 08:23
schestowitz> I think that the loss of freedom is deeper and more important,Jan 11 08:23
schestowitz> but the security issue is the best way to explain in 20 secondsJan 11 08:23
schestowitz> to someone I don't know.Jan 11 08:23
schestowitzWhen people (here at least) hear accessibility they think of persons in wheelchair or something. Any debate about accessibility in another domain or context would be better framed in other terms.Jan 11 08:24
schestowitzMy 50c.Jan 11 08:24
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schestowitz<li>Jan 11 11:23
schestowitz                                            <h5><a href="https://jvns.ca/blog/2023/01/10/some-business-graphs-for-2022/">Some business graphs for 2022</a></h5>Jan 11 11:23
-TechBytesBot/#techbytes-jvns.ca | Some business graphs for 2022Jan 11 11:23
schestowitz                                            <blockquote>Jan 11 11:23
schestowitz                                                <p>Hello! I like looking at other independent authors’ business graphs, so I thought I’d share some percentages and graphs of my own this year. Hopefully some of this is useful to other writers who run internet businesses.</p>Jan 11 11:23
schestowitz                                                <p>All of the graphs are about Wizard Zines’ business selling zines – I don’t do sponsorships or consulting or commissions or anything.</p>Jan 11 11:23
schestowitz                                            </blockquote>Jan 11 11:23
schestowitz                                        </li>Jan 11 11:23
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