●● IRC: #techbytes @ Techrights IRC Network: Thursday, November 11, 2021 ●● ● Nov 11 [00:22] schestowitz MinceR: https://www.apple.com/newsroom/2021/11/apple-introduces-apple-business-essentials/ [00:22] -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-www.apple.com | Apple introduces Apple Business Essentials - Apple [00:22] schestowitz lol [00:22] schestowitz Essentials [00:22] schestowitz DaemonFC: Essentials like AirPods [00:23] schestowitz dozens of them [00:23] *qa2 has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [00:25] MinceR it would be essential to avoid apple products in business [00:27] schestowitz yes [00:27] schestowitz it's like a religion now [00:27] schestowitz everything air, i, and pod [00:28] schestowitz they even tried to market a server [00:28] schestowitz didn't last long [00:34] *MinceR has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [00:34] *MinceR (~mincer@bringer.of.light) has joined #techbytes [00:34] *irc.techrights.org sets mode +a #techbytes MinceR [00:44] *qa2 (~sid145515@frp6gv52kp9fi.irc) has joined #techbytes [00:48] *qa2 has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [00:52] *qa2 (~sid145515@frp6gv52kp9fi.irc) has joined #techbytes ● Nov 11 [03:21] *DaemonFC has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [03:23] *DaemonFC (~daemonfc@pw36jfix7um9e.irc) has joined #techbytes ● Nov 11 [04:26] *u-amarsh04 has quit (Quit: Konversation terminated!) 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Note the automatic rifle on the womans hip. That means the wife is in control and cheating or divorce action by the husband is unlikely to happen. [17:41] schestowitz :-) [17:41] schestowitz Yes, I know. [17:41] schestowitz But still... I just wanted to clarify that divorce rates there are high. [17:46] *liberty_box has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [17:46] *rianne_ has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [17:49] *rianne_ (~rianne@62vhapicsw4ds.irc) has joined #techbytes [17:51] *liberty_box (~liberty@62vhapicsw4ds.irc) has joined #techbytes ● Nov 11 [18:48] *liberty_box has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [18:49] *rianne_ has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [18:55] *rianne_ (~rianne@62vhapicsw4ds.irc) has joined #techbytes [18:55] *liberty_box (~liberty@62vhapicsw4ds.irc) has joined #techbytes ● Nov 11 [19:16] *DaemonFC (~daemonfc@h4bkmsczwtjvu.irc) has joined #techbytes [19:32] *rianne_ has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [19:32] *liberty_box has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [19:36] *DaemonFC has quit (Quit: Leaving) [19:44] *rianne_ (~rianne@62vhapicsw4ds.irc) has joined #techbytes [19:46] *liberty_box (~liberty@62vhapicsw4ds.irc) has joined #techbytes ● Nov 11 [20:45] schestowitz https://twitter.com/glynmoody/status/1458805033923919878 [20:45] -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@glynmoody: this looks like a prediction from #COP26 https://t.co/HSBS26LvSz [20:45] -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@schestowitz: "It's still a little while away for release on February 17, with Linux as close as possible to that from Feral Inte https://t.co/LrvGENcsqH [20:45] schestowitz https://twitter.com/BrideOfLinux/status/1458803520304525321 [20:45] -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@BrideOfLinux: @schestowitz @FOSSForce Thanks, Roy! [20:46] schestowitz https://twitter.com/melitazajc/status/1458729073442791424 [20:46] -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@melitazajc: Good. https://t.co/R7IklVerjC [20:46] -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@schestowitz: NEWS #Techdirt #Apple Faces Yet More 'Right To Repair' Backlash Over iPhone 13 Screen https://t.co/IR7McU1WqH [20:46] schestowitz https://twitter.com/iridesce57/status/1458642488965615627 [20:46] -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@iridesce57: #MonopolyBill https://t.co/GowbGKKowy [20:46] -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@schestowitz: "because #BillGates is not an elected representative or public official, the details of his far-reaching influence https://t.co/Mjj40rbBVv [20:46] schestowitz https://nitter.ey/brettglass/status/1458638957219045378 [20:46] -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-Could not resolve host: nitter.ey; Unknown error ( status 0 @ https://nitter.ey/brettglass/status/1458638957219045378 ) [20:46] schestowitz https://nitter.eu/brettglass/status/1458638957219045378 [20:46] -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-nitter.eu | Brett Glass - WY7BG (@brettglass): "Sohn is a Google lobbyist and consistently pushed regulations that benefited Google at the expense of consumers. For example, she wanted Google to be able to take over your cable box, spying on your viewing and replacing commercials with its own ads." | nitter [20:47] schestowitz https://twitter.com/brianfagioli/status/1458638403688407046 [20:47] -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@brianfagioli: @BrideOfLinux @schestowitz Eh, Im just ok. But I appreciate the nice words! [20:47] schestowitz https://nitter.eu/GyroGen_TM/status/1458634129260662786 [20:47] -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-nitter.eu | GyroWaveGen(TM) (@GyroGen_TM): "Needs to go to $20K 1st prize + $10K 2nd prize & $5000 3rd prize! Cheapskates! How much do the attorneys make - win or lose? How much do expert witnesses cost?" | nitter [20:47] *Despatche (~desp@u3xy9z2ifjzci.irc) has joined #techbytes [20:47] schestowitz https://nittrer.eu/BrideOfLinux/status/1458608405141241862 [20:47] -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-Could not resolve host: nittrer.eu; Unknown error ( status 0 @ https://nittrer.eu/BrideOfLinux/status/1458608405141241862 ) [20:48] schestowitz https://nitter.eu/BrideOfLinux/status/1458608405141241862 [20:48] -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-nitter.eu | Christine Hall (@BrideOfLinux): "Fagioli is a good writer, but he'd be much better if he lost his penchant for clickbait, sensational leds, and painting with too broad of a brush." | nitter [20:50] *DaemonFC (~daemonfc@h4bkmsczwtjvu.irc) has joined #techbytes [20:52] schestowitz DaemonFC: [20:52] schestowitz I am reading your post [20:52] schestowitz did you see the latest from Moz? [20:53] schestowitz Two posts about Firefox privacy [20:53] schestowitz I think to distract from the issues [20:54] DaemonFC Probably. [20:54] DaemonFC I am so utterly disgusted by all of this. [20:54] schestowitz on the third paragraph you have link issues [20:54] schestowitz 2 links are not visible [20:54] schestowitz I think you found out rather later what Mozilla had been up to [20:54] DaemonFC It's like Shock and Awe invasion by assholes who don't care it's falling apart, packing it with spyware, sabotaging it so it can't run on Debian, and cover up for Microsoft sites that deliberately send it corrupt data. [20:54] schestowitz a couple of years ago it got really ba [20:54] schestowitz *bad [20:55] schestowitz and now they spam "Edge" by Microsoft [20:55] schestowitz to your phone [20:55] DaemonFC I'm not having any link problems. [20:55] schestowitz they want to kill off everything [20:55] DaemonFC Most of it is referencing earlier posts and Bugzilla. [20:55] schestowitz the web is messy [20:56] schestowitz two matrix links [20:56] schestowitz at the start and end of para [20:57] *GNUmoon2 has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [20:57] DaemonFC I'm hovering over everything, and it looks correct to me. [20:57] schestowitz oh wait [20:57] schestowitz I see what happened here [20:57] schestowitz you copied from IRC [20:58] schestowitz and it added matrix links [20:58] DaemonFC Firefox is a disaster. [20:58] DaemonFC Microsoft was openly trolling them and they still had nothing to say about it. [20:59] DaemonFC Microsoft commented specifically that Gecko was pointless and that Mozilla should switch to Blink like everyone else. ● Nov 11 [21:00] DaemonFC Then they said that Mozilla's browser division itself was pointless and that they should just become a research institute so that Microsoft could pick over whatever they put out, like Rust, since Microsoft isn't smart enough to develop anything like it themselves. C# had so many problems that compiling an application for 32-bit Windows could create raw pointer problems if you ran it on 64-bit Windows. [21:00] DaemonFC Java doesn't have raw pointers, so they basically took one of the few good things about Java and managed to get that wrong. [21:05] schestowitz I found only a bogus typo [21:05] schestowitz internet -> Internet [21:06] schestowitz DaemonFC: yes, Mozilla also destroys Thunderbird [21:06] schestowitz it still works as a mail client [21:06] schestowitz but not much beyond that [21:06] schestowitz they killed off pretty much every extension [21:06] DaemonFC Mozilla itself has become unbearably toxic. [21:06] DaemonFC At least when I report bugs to Webkit and GNOME Web they say "Thank you for the bug report." and if it's not good enough they say "Can you please type this in and see what it says?". [21:06] DaemonFC Not "Hi Ryan, you're being unhelpful for pointing out that Firefox couldn't run Facebook due to a UA issue we couldn't be bothered to fix for three years while it recommended our competitor, so we're going to silence you. -Love, Mozilla". [21:07] schestowitz so the software only got worse over time [21:07] schestowitz they also censored me, IIRC, in Hacker News [21:07] schestowitz when I did popular articles about problems at Mozilla [21:07] schestowitz I guess that makes me racist and "troll" [21:08] schestowitz there's a whole cult based around this delusion [21:08] schestowitz "only trolls dislike us"" [21:08] schestowitz "block and report" [21:08] schestowitz "let's cancel them, they will get away'' [21:09] DaemonFC Well, we see what that's getting them. [21:09] DaemonFC 50 million fewer users than 3 years ago. [21:09] schestowitz Microsoft matters more to Mozilla than Free Software [21:09] schestowitz 3 years or 1? [21:10] DaemonFC 3....According to this...https://news.itsfoss.com/firefox-decline/ [21:10] -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-news.itsfoss.com | Firefox Lost Almost 50 million Users: Here's Why It is Concerning - It's FOSS News [21:10] schestowitz OK [21:10] DaemonFC 244 million daily Firefox users end of 2018. [21:10] DaemonFC 198 million end of Q2 2021. [21:10] DaemonFC They're going away. [21:11] DaemonFC Ignoring things like the top 10 sites not working because they can't do a simple UA hack is not helping. [21:11] DaemonFC Even though it is Facebook, people will leave Firefox when something they want to do doesn't work. [21:12] DaemonFC So it is an issue that needs addressed, else users leave and go use Chrome and then use Facebook anyway, and now we have two problems. [21:12] schestowitz
  • Firefoxs Private Browsing mode upleveled for you
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    [21:12] -TechBytesBot/#techbytes- ( status 404 @ https://blog.mozilla.org/en/mozilla/firefoxs-private-browsing-mode-upleveled-for-you/">Firefoxs ) [21:12] schestowitz There are plenty of reasons why you might want to keep something you are doing on the web to yourself. You might be looking for a ring for your soon-to-be fiance, looking up what those mysterious skin rashes could be, or reading a salacious celebrity gossip blog. Thats where Private Browsing mode comes in handy. This year, we upleveled and added new advanced features to our Private Browsing mode. Before we share more about these new features we [21:13] schestowitz wanted to share some of the misconceptions about Private Browsing. [21:13] schestowitz One of the top common myths about Private Browsing (in any major web browser) is that it makes you anonymous on the Internet. The Private Browsing mode on Chrome, Safari, Edge and Firefox are primarily designed to keep your activity private from other users on the same computer, but websites and Internet service providers can still gather information about your visit, even if you are not signed in. To learn more about other Common Myths, visit our [21:13] schestowitz site. You should know though, that Firefox offers something that other browsers dont, which is advanced privacy protections. Read on to learn more about our unique tracking protections. [21:13] schestowitz

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  • Mozilla submits comments to the California Privacy Protection Agency - Open Policy & Advocacy
    [21:13] -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-blog.mozilla.org | Mozilla Advocacy - 2015 Plan - Open Policy & Advocacy [21:13] schestowitz

    This week, Mozilla submitted comments in response to the California Privacy Protection Agencys Invitation for Preliminary Comments on Proposed Rulemaking Under the California Privacy Rights Act (CPRA). [21:13] schestowitz Mozilla has long been a supporter of data privacy laws that empower people, including the trailblazing California privacy laws, California Consumer Privacy Act (CCPA) and California Privacy Rights Act (CPRA). We welcome the opportunity to offer feedback as California considers how to best evolve its privacy protections, and we support the progress made thus far, particularly as federal efforts languish but theres more to do. [21:13] schestowitz

    • [21:13] DaemonFC You mean the one that passed after Mozilla and Facebook and Comcast lobbied to water it down? [21:14] schestowitz yes [21:14] DaemonFC There were serious teeth in the CCPA, but now it's something that Microsoft Windows can "comply" with easily, and they just assume everyone is in California and it doesn't interfere with them at all, one bit. [21:15] DaemonFC schestowitz, Big Business is trying to gut the Illinois BIPA too. [21:15] schestowitz re mozilla and FB [21:15] schestowitz mind you, [21:15] schestowitz they hired several MANAGERS from B [21:15] schestowitz FB [21:15] schestowitz which I think matters [21:15] DaemonFC Facebook losing lawsuits over BIPA over and over again is what compelled them to just delete all facial recognition data and be done with it. [21:16] schestowitz it might help explain why FF is adjusted for the FB business mindset [21:16] DaemonFC They did not just announce this because they want to stop doing something bad. [21:16] DaemonFC They'll continue lobbying to weaken it and then when it doesn't help anyone anymore, they go back to collecting the data. [21:17] DaemonFC You never really win on something like this in a way where you can move on. [21:19] DaemonFC schestowitz, There are matrix links in your repost. [21:19] DaemonFC That needs fixed. [21:20] schestowitz DaemonFC: https://www.ctrl.blog/entry/microsoft-edge-protocol-competition.html#src=feed [21:20] -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-www.ctrl.blog | Windows 11 blocks Edge browser competitors from opening links [21:20] schestowitz just in [21:21] schestowitz DaemonFC: those links are in yours too [21:21] DaemonFC schestowitz, I think it's Daniel Alexsanderson that maintains Edge Deflector. [21:22] DaemonFC "Oh good, the Vista SP 11 store. Hooray! [21:22] DaemonFC The OS that cant get a file manager with 8 buttons to work right!" [21:22] DaemonFC I'm seeing them as normal text, no link. [21:22] DaemonFC In private browsing mode too. [21:26] schestowitz you have invisible links there [21:26] schestowitz in Wordpress.com, go to the mode with page source [21:26] schestowitz I will remove these links now [21:28] schestowitz not sure what you make of https://blog.mozilla.org/en/mozilla/firefoxs-private-browsing-mode-upleveled-for-you/ [21:28] -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-blog.mozilla.org | Firefoxs Private Browsing mode upleveled for you [21:29] schestowitz but I think I cannot figure out how to LEVERAGE an EFFECTIVE rebuttal to how it's just POSING [21:29] schestowitz they keep managing "privacy" [21:29] schestowitz that confuses people, at best... [21:29] DaemonFC Microsoft Edge as the default web browser for Windows (which naturally has a huge marketshare) [21:29] DaemonFC Windows is huge, but people are fleeing it. [21:29] schestowitz Trump: I'm the LEAST racist person in the world.. [21:30] schestowitz yeah [21:30] DaemonFC The stopper has been removed and the bathtub is draining. [21:30] schestowitz Vista 11 is failing [21:30] schestowitz I did some posts about this lately [21:30] DaemonFC Panicked knee jerk reactions to the Chromebook 10 years too late isn't going to help. [21:30] schestowitz they spam the video now [21:30] schestowitz with GOOGLEBOMBING of "Linux" [21:31] schestowitz Windows Ass [21:31] schestowitz because "LINUX" somethinhg [21:31] schestowitz (WSL they mean) [21:31] DaemonFC It's like someone at Microsoft hits the snooze button for 10 years and then realizes that a competitor has already won and it's over, so here's a rival Microsoft product that gets to 1.5% then fizzles. [21:31] DaemonFC Some guy at Auto Zone told me he liked Windows Phone better than Android. [21:32] DaemonFC Now you can't even get a Windows Phone. [21:33] DaemonFC For a while there, the extreme bargain basement MVNO carriers were snapping them up [21:37] schestowitz WIndows 'Phone' [21:38] schestowitz I still rememeber 2020 [21:38] schestowitz Witih Windows Mobile/CE, IIRC [21:38] schestowitz iPaq [21:38] schestowitz remember that one? [21:38] schestowitz bloated, heavy [21:38] schestowitz with some retarded version of "Office" [21:38] schestowitz as if "office" is what people needed in their pockets [21:39] schestowitz Palm OS did OK back then, then came blackberry and decent nokia phones with browsers [21:39] schestowitz later hypePhone and Android [21:52] *GNUmoon2 (~GNUmoon@5z2uahnzy3nww.irc) has joined #techbytes ● Nov 11 [22:00] DaemonFC schestowitz, Microsoft is beating their chests about how Windows 11 SE will let students run MS Office in "offline" mode. [22:00] DaemonFC Chromebooks let you edit documents like this. [22:01] DaemonFC They're competing against, what, the way Chromebooks were 6 years ago? [22:01] DaemonFC Do they even go out and buy one to know what they're up against? [22:56] *blitzed has quit (Quit: +++ATH0&D2 NO CARRIER NO CAREER) [22:57] *blitzed (~blitzed@kic8p867d28q6.irc) has joined #techbytes ● Nov 11 [23:21] *psydroid2 has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [23:36] *DaemonFC has quit (Quit: Leaving) [23:38] *DaemonFC (~daemonfc@5sd2ujn3d367e.irc) has joined #techbytes [23:47] schestowitz DaemonFC: obv. not [23:47] schestowitz but I don't keep abreast of it [23:47] schestowitz because, tbh, they're both junk [23:47] schestowitz they give students RENTED platforms [23:47] schestowitz and that's no good [23:47] schestowitz Google does it with Gentoo [23:47] schestowitz which means gnu/linux advocacy is NOT enough [23:47] schestowitz we need to talk about software FREEDOm [23:48] schestowitz Mozilla: Firefox is OPEN [23:48] schestowitz "here, source code" [23:48] schestowitz except the DRM [23:48] schestowitz Firefox as a binary is not free software