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Somebody will invent something, then the employing company (IBM or other, doesn't matter) will impound the IP (intellectual property) and NOT do anything with it. They won't build or market the invention for whatever reason, but they'll act as patent trolls against anyone else (including the actual inventor) who might try to make something of their invention. [02:33] schestowitz[TR2] The IBM of today is not the IBM of 50, 40, 30, 20 or even 10 years ago. They have dispensed with much of their manufacturing abilities, including the staff who could get things done. The executive management consists largely of finance and legal types. There are no Steve Jobs or Bill Gates types hanging around who could recognize something great (or even something GOOD) and do something with it, so the advice in previous comments i [02:33] schestowitz[TR2] s sound...if you come up with a good idea, keep it to yourself until you and your ideas are safe and sound in a different place. [02:33] schestowitz[TR2] 2 hours ago by Anonymous [02:33] schestowitz[TR2] | 2 reactions (+2/-0) [02:33] schestowitz[TR2] Post ID: @ivk+1ttxjGQo [02:33] schestowitz[TR2] +2 [02:33] schestowitz[TR2] dear god, don't give the parasite ibm any great ideas [02:33] schestowitz[TR2] they will just steal for the parasites above [02:33] schestowitz[TR2] they benefit, you get chump change and then outsourced eventually [02:33] schestowitz[TR2] 3 hours ago by Anonymous [02:33] schestowitz[TR2] | 2 reactions (+2/-0) [02:33] schestowitz[TR2] Post ID: @uhm+1ttxjGQo [02:33] schestowitz[TR2] +4 [02:33] schestowitz[TR2] If you have a truly great idea, do NOT tell anyone else, and develop it in your spare time. If/when you are convinced it actually works, quit, and pursue it. But make sure there is no trace of it happening while employed by IBM otherwise they can (rightfully) claim it as theirs. [02:33] schestowitz[TR2] Yes, this is immoral and illegal, but so is IBM. [02:33] schestowitz[TR2] 5 hours ago by Anonymous [02:33] schestowitz[TR2] | 4 reactions (+4/-0) [02:33] schestowitz[TR2] Post ID: @nfe+1ttxjGQo [02:33] schestowitz[TR2] +4 [02:33] schestowitz[TR2] Why would anyone disclose a bright idea ? [02:33] schestowitz[TR2] 1- it will take an enormous effort to convince the mediocre cabal of IBM executives . Is it worth ? [02:33] schestowitz[TR2] 2- all the benefits will go to line the pockets of the dishonest cabal of IBM executives. [02:33] schestowitz[TR2] " [02:36] schestowitz[TR2] https://www.thelayoff.com/t/1trS9X5Q [02:36] -TechBytesBot/#techbytes- ( status 403 @ https://www.thelayoff.com/t/1trS9X5Q ) [02:36] schestowitz[TR2] " [02:36] schestowitz[TR2] Kyndryl was IBMs response to labor being commoditized. GTS was charging enterprise rates on their offerings when the marketplace was moving to commodity parts and as such commodity rates. With Kyndryls spinoff, IBM bisected their GTS offerings from their GBS offerings thus allowing the enterprise side of IBMs house to move forward, while allowing the commodity side of IBMs house to restructure to an offshore/commodity p [02:36] schestowitz[TR2] arts and services offering. IBMs fundamental mistake was divesting Intel servers thinking Power scale out would fill the divested void. Instead the marketplace adopted Intel servers and their offerings as good enough and left Power as an overpriced also ran. NOTE Power has superb offerings if you are looking for performance and/or large usable memory, BUT 80% of IBMs previous customers were able to transition to Intel o [02:36] schestowitz[TR2] fferings and pocket the HW/SW/services savings. That my friends is how Ginni took a 100 billion dollar all in company and managed it down to 55 billion. The market innovated and moved far faster than IBM thought it would, and IBM was caught flat footed with zero alternatives. AK has stemmed a lot of the bleeding by focusing on Enterprise offerings, but he still has not fully addressed the remaining non-enterprise offerings that lin [02:36] schestowitz[TR2] ger on the vine within IBM. Until he does, IBM will continue to just muddle along. [02:36] schestowitz[TR2] " [02:36] schestowitz[TR2] " [02:36] schestowitz[TR2] Why are the disgruntled ex GTS folks spamming IBM boards with their nonsense? Nobody at IBM gives a ra ts a rse to Kendryl, Kendra or KindDrill - get a life [02:36] schestowitz[TR2] " [02:51] *Noisytoot has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) ● Jul 13 [03:55] *parsifal has quit (Quit: Leaving) ● Jul 13 [04:24] schestowitz[TR2] x https://www.digitalmusicnews.com/2024/07/12/confidential-tiktok-transcript-doj/ [04:24] -TechBytesBot/#techbytes- ( status 520 @ https://www.digitalmusicnews.com/2024/07/12/confidential-tiktok-transcript-doj/ ) ● Jul 13 [07:58] *vizimajac (~capybara@freenode-gnu.j7j.hcu80m.IP) has joined #techbytes ● Jul 13 [09:55] *x-amarsh04 has quit (Quit: Konversation terminated!) ● Jul 13 [10:12] *x-amarsh04 (~amarsh04@4bk2ptyysukzu.irc) has joined #techbytes [10:44] schestowitz[TR2]
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    Welcome to Thunderbird 128 "Nebula"
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    On behalf of the entire team, the Thunderbird Council, and our global community of contributors, Im excited to announce the initial release of Thunderbird 128 Nebula. This annual Extended Support Release (ESR) builds on the solid foundation established by Supernova last year.

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    Nebula ushers in significant improvements to Thunderbirds code, stability, overall user experience, and the speed at which we can deliver new features to you.

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    Thunderbird for Android / K-9 Mail: June 2024 Progress Report
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    This year Thunderbird has hired a lot of new people. Im very happy to report that this also included a manager who will coordinate all of our mobile efforts. Some of you may already know him. Philipp Kewisch has been working on the calendar integrated into Thunderbird for desktop and has been with the project in one capacity or another for a very long time. Were very excited to have [10:50] schestowitz[TR2] him (back).

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    PostmarketOS: Linux for phones and more
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    PostmarketOS is based on Alpine Linux, a lightweight Linux distribution that also serves as a popular base for Linux containers. The recently announced v24.06 release is built on Alpine Linux 3.20. All of the interfaces have received an upgrade since the v23.12 release from December 2023. In particular, KDE Plasma Mobile 6 provides a lot of new functionality, including the introduction of [10:50] schestowitz[TR2] a new home screen that allows users to customize pages with apps, folders, and widgets.

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    KDE Frameworks 6.4.0 Rolls Out, Heres Whats New
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    Over a month after the previous 6.3.0 release, KDE announced the launch of Frameworks 6.4.0, expanding its collection of addon libraries to Qt and enhancing functionality available to developers across various platforms.

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    Whether or not the notion of "inventive step" was known, the notion of obviousness certainly was, as Anonymous has helpfully explained. What DXT might have had in mind is that the duties of a UK Patent Office person, examining for patentability back then, ex parte, prior to grant, did not i [21:42] schestowitz[TR2] nclude an enquiry into obviousness. Back then, it was thought that the only meaningful enquiry into obviousness was one conducted inter Partes, so that the decision-maker could do it with the benefit of having received "both sides" of the obviousness debate. An Applicant "deserved their day in court" it was thought, rather than losing their pending patent monopoly application to a negative subjective opinion of [21:42] schestowitz[TR2] a mere Patent Office Examiner. So, novel but obvious subject matter got through to grant (unless somebody chose to delay grant by filing filing a pre-grant opposition fully loaded with evidence and argument of obviousness).

    What a ,long way we have come, since then, on the notion of what is a patentably inventive step." [21:42] schestowitz[TR2] "Just for completeness, under the UK Patents Act 1949 (the "Pre-EPC" UK Patents Act) obviousness was available as a ground of revocation post grant before the Comptroller or the Courts:

    https://www.legislation.gov.uk/ukpga/Geo6/12-13-14/87/section/32
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