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schestowitzhttps://joindiaspora.com/posts/16005361#732f2880bb2d0137098d7a163ef10931Dec 14 08:44
-TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Wife thinks there's a connection or there >may< be a connection between RMS being invited to #microsoft and media owned by friends of #billgates intentionally lying about RMS to cause community backlash (based on falsehoods)Dec 14 08:45
schestowitz"Dec 14 08:45
schestowitzOnly RMS knows.Dec 14 08:45
schestowitzDec 14 08:45
schestowitzfreemedia@share.naturalnews.com - 3 months agoDec 14 08:45
schestowitzno one can dispute the coincidence in timing, only the relationship between the two.Dec 14 08:45
schestowitz"Dec 14 08:45
schestowitzexactly!Dec 14 08:45
schestowitzhttps://joindiaspora.com/posts/16243571#a306f050d16f013741dc002590d8e506Dec 14 08:46
-TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@freemedia@share.naturalnews.com: **why is the #fsf taking donations from google?** (i can probably answer that one myself though) but more importantly, **why is the fsf censoring the information?** https://mastodon.technology/@tuxmachines/102937711110085556Dec 14 08:46
schestowitz"Dec 14 08:46
schestowitz@Alexandre Oliva can you say us something about this? its pretty creepy.Dec 14 08:46
schestowitz freemedia@share.naturalnews.comDec 14 08:46
schestowitzfreemedia@share.naturalnews.com - 2 months agoDec 14 08:46
-TechBytesBot/#techbytes--> mastodon.technology | Tux Machines: "What does the FSF censor during the Richard Stall…" - Mastodon for Tech FolksDec 14 08:46
schestowitzim sure he cant (and i want to point out that i dont blame him if he cant.)Dec 14 08:46
schestowitzextra points if he can. expect a new article about the future of the fsf sometime in the next 24 hours (more or less)Dec 14 08:46
schestowitznote also that im not entirely convinced pocock is correct about every claim he makes, either. i think his points are worthy of consideration and examination, and i hate censorship-- particularly when it appears to have such dubious aims.Dec 14 08:46
schestowitzi dont want anybody to think i take anything pocock says as a decided matter of fact. they very would could prove to be, i think we should evaluate them, i think theyre very interesting and shouldnt be swept under the rug.Dec 14 08:46
schestowitzi also (firmly) believe that in the instance of debians mailing list censorship (not a new topic or news to me at all) this was a notable factor in systemd taking over debian. i believe steve litt is the most prominent voice on that topic, and his complaints dovetail very nicely with pococks-- another reason to take these claims seriously, in my opinion.Dec 14 08:46
schestowitz tomgrzDec 14 08:46
schestowitztomgrz - 2 months agoDec 14 08:46
schestowitzGoogle is a big mistake. Avoid at all cost.Dec 14 08:46
schestowitz tomgrzDec 14 08:46
schestowitztomgrz - 2 months agoDec 14 08:46
schestowitzHa! One way to make your arguments appear more popular is to censor the others!@Dec 14 08:46
schestowitz freemedia@share.naturalnews.comDec 14 08:46
schestowitzfreemedia@share.naturalnews.com - 2 months agoDec 14 08:46
schestowitzjust ask barbaraDec 14 08:46
schestowitz"Dec 14 08:47
schestowitzI still lack actual evidence that Google paid FSF, except through event sponsorshipsDec 14 08:47
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schestowitz"Dec 14 11:43
schestowitz Saw your tweet on SP certification. It's odd that System1 is promoting VERY old Startpage certifications that are out of date, especially since Startpage called the value of Europrise certifications into question back in 2018, writing (see: https://support.startpage.com/index.php?/Knowledgebase/Article/View/9/0/what-auditing-and-review-does-your-europrise-certification-process-involve):Dec 14 11:43
schestowitz"EuroPriSe is now part of a larger, privatized company and has lost some of its authority based on this privatization."Dec 14 11:43
schestowitzSo they're saying Europrise can't be trusted, but you should still trust the very outdated audits they did when Startpage was under other ownership and not sharing data with System1? (See the fine print in the newest SP data processing diagram. Data is shared with System1 for processing. Question: If System1 is processing data as they say and sending it back for presentation to consumers, how do they match up the request with the right IPDec 14 11:43
schestowitzaddress if that isn't shared?)Dec 14 11:43
-TechBytesBot/#techbytes-support.startpage.com | What auditing and review does your Europrise certification process involve? - Startpage.com SupportDec 14 11:43
schestowitzMaybe that's what we should expect from a company that sold out to U.S. pay-per-click advertising company System1, kept that hidden from the public for nearly a year, then refused to answer basic questions about ownership fully and transparently.Dec 14 11:43
schestowitz"Dec 14 11:43
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/_junit0r/status/1205819960917921796Dec 14 12:09
-TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@_junit0r: @schestowitz What are they: #system1 and #startpage?Dec 14 12:09
schestowitz#surveillance company and data broker disguised as a  (meta) search engine that 'respects' #privacyDec 14 12:09
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/sine_injuria/status/1205870107509108736Dec 14 15:51
-TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@sine_injuria: #Facebook & Other #Surveillance Capitalists Won’t Save #Mozilla From #Google Dependence • https://t.co/a3SIv4jRCr… https://t.co/YiROiASxNzDec 14 15:51
schestowitz"Dec 14 15:51
schestowitz#Facebook & Other #Surveillance Capitalists Won’t Save #Mozilla From #Google DependenceDec 14 15:51
-TechBytesBot/#techbytes--> techrights.org | Facebook and Other Surveillance Capitalists Won’t Save Mozilla From Google Dependence | TechrightsDec 14 15:51
-TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@sine_injuria: #Facebook & Other #Surveillance Capitalists Won’t Save #Mozilla From #Google Dependence • https://t.co/a3SIv4jRCr… https://t.co/YiROiASxNzDec 14 15:51
schestowitzhttp://techrights.org/2019/11/03/the-privacy-scam/Dec 14 15:51
schestowitzre #Trump & the #Patriots vs [DS] #Kuklop/ #Cyclop #Luciferian #PhaloSolaristsDec 14 15:51
schestowitz"Dec 14 15:51
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/buitenzorg812/status/1205882253567377409Dec 14 16:10
-TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@buitenzorg812: It Matters a Lot What You Call the System https://t.co/HW0WtyqlMi #inspiring #feedlyDec 14 16:10
-TechBytesBot/#techbytes--> techrights.org | It Matters a Lot What You Call the System | TechrightsDec 14 16:10
schestowitz"Hi Roy. Would appreciate your opinion on the dialogue (multiple messages with Alexander xxxx of yyyyy) to make sure I'm not being unfair to System1/Startpage in some way. Alexander suggests that I am. See the message towards the end of this post: xxxxxxxxxxDec 14 16:18
schestowitz"One of my big questions is about the new Startpage data flow diagram that shows Startpage sends data to System1 for processing and then somehow gets that data back to  present to users. Maybe System1 interfaces directly with Google? Wouldn't that require some kind of unique identifier like an IP address to ensure the proper user is delivered the requested search results information? Maybe I'm off base?Dec 14 16:18
schestowitz"I'm really surprised at some of Alex xxxxx's support for behavioral ads. Maybe it's someone masquerading as Alexander?Dec 14 16:18
schestowitzBack in the days (maybe 4 years) we talked about how DDG was a farce. He's also critical of EFF. Maybe a system1 salary is worth a lot where he's based, so self-delusion?Dec 14 16:18
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/DMCANews/status/1205899518027259904Dec 14 17:19
-TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@DMCANews: @schestowitz @fcassia ... and yesterday... promoted Jono's ridiculous book about the community helping businesses.… https://t.co/nwkP6U6wuIDec 14 17:19
-TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@DMCANews: @schestowitz @fcassia ... and yesterday... promoted Jono's ridiculous book about the community helping businesses.… https://t.co/nwkP6U6wuIDec 14 17:19
schestowitz"... and yesterday... promoted Jono's ridiculous book about the community helping businesses. Seems backassward to me. The so-called "community" leaders don't get it. We are a "community" - not judgement proof skilled free labor."Dec 14 17:19
schestowitz"community expert" LOLDec 14 17:20
schestowitzStill uses a very old job titles to sell his PR servicesDec 14 17:20
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