●● IRC: #techbytes @ FreeNode: Saturday, November 21, 2020 ●● ● Nov 21 [09:13] *liberty_box has quit (Ping timeout: 246 seconds) [09:13] *rianne_ has quit (Ping timeout: 246 seconds) [09:19] *rianne_ (~rianne@host81-154-173-112.range81-154.btcentralplus.com) has joined #techbytes [09:20] *liberty_box (~liberty@host81-154-173-112.range81-154.btcentralplus.com) has joined #techbytes ● Nov 21 [10:30] *SubWasted (~quassel@145.168.191.92.dynamic.jazztel.es) has joined #techbytes [10:30] *SubWasted has quit (Client Quit) [10:38] *GNUmoon has quit (Remote host closed the connection) [10:39] *GNUmoon (~GNUmoon@gateway/tor-sasl/gnumoon) has joined #techbytes ● Nov 21 [11:01] *rianne_ has quit (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) [11:02] *liberty_box has quit (Ping timeout: 264 seconds) [11:02] *rianne_ (~rianne@host81-154-173-112.range81-154.btcentralplus.com) has joined #techbytes [11:03] *liberty_box (~liberty@host81-154-173-112.range81-154.btcentralplus.com) has joined #techbytes [11:29] *liberty_box has quit (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) [11:29] *rianne_ has quit (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) [11:37] *rianne_ (~rianne@host81-154-173-112.range81-154.btcentralplus.com) has joined #techbytes [11:39] *liberty_box (~liberty@host81-154-173-112.range81-154.btcentralplus.com) has joined #techbytes ● Nov 21 [13:41] *rianne_ has quit (Remote host closed the connection) [13:42] *rianne_ (~rianne@host81-154-173-112.range81-154.btcentralplus.com) has joined #techbytes ● Nov 21 [14:09] *rianne_ has quit (Quit: Konversation terminated!) [14:09] *rianne_ (~rianne@host81-154-173-112.range81-154.btcentralplus.com) has joined #techbytes ● Nov 21 [15:48] *liberty_box has quit (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) [15:48] *rianne_ has quit (Ping timeout: 272 seconds) [15:53] *rianne_ (~rianne@host81-154-173-112.range81-154.btcentralplus.com) has joined #techbytes [15:55] *liberty_box (~liberty@host81-154-173-112.range81-154.btcentralplus.com) has joined #techbytes ● Nov 21 [18:29] *rianne_ has quit (Ping timeout: 246 seconds) [18:29] *liberty_box has quit (Ping timeout: 246 seconds) [18:30] *rianne_ (~rianne@host81-154-173-112.range81-154.btcentralplus.com) has joined #techbytes [18:30] *liberty_box (~liberty@host81-154-173-112.range81-154.btcentralplus.com) has joined #techbytes ● Nov 21 [21:07] *rianne_ has quit (Ping timeout: 260 seconds) [21:07] *liberty_box has quit (Ping timeout: 260 seconds) [21:08] *rianne_ (~rianne@host81-154-173-112.range81-154.btcentralplus.com) has joined #techbytes [21:08] *liberty_box (~liberty@host81-154-173-112.range81-154.btcentralplus.com) has joined #techbytes [21:11] *hl has quit (Ping timeout: 260 seconds) [21:15] *hl (~hl@152.ip-149-202-41.eu) has joined #techbytes [21:15] *hl has quit (Changing host) [21:15] *hl (~hl@unaffiliated/hl) has joined #techbytes ● Nov 21 [22:32] schestowitz >> slated is the one who helped me set up the IRC channels [22:32] schestowitz > initially... more than 12 years ago. His name is Keith, he's Scottish. [22:32] schestowitz > [22:32] schestowitz > You told me that a year or two ago, and I've tried to think of it since [22:32] schestowitz > that time. But I had no real reason to ask, so I didn't. [22:32] schestowitz > [22:32] schestowitz > https://web.archive.org/web/20200809000921/https://slated.org/respect_freedom_not_pragmatism [22:32] -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-web.archive.org | Respect Freedom, Not Pragmatism | Slated [22:32] schestowitz > [22:32] schestowitz > [22:32] schestowitz > That one article has inspired me as much as any other. [22:32] schestowitz > [22:32] schestowitz > Shades of Zemlin: [22:32] schestowitz > [22:32] schestowitz > [22:32] schestowitz > Jono Bacon prefers Windows [22:32] schestowitz > [22:32] schestowitz > [22:32] -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-web.archive.org | Jono Bacon prefers Windows | Slated [22:32] schestowitz > Mon, 15/11/2010 - 4:14pm Homer [22:32] schestowitz > [22:32] schestowitz > [22:32] schestowitz > *"the reason I don't use Linux today is simply because it doesn't [22:32] schestowitz > serve my needs" ~ Jono Bacon [22:32] schestowitz > , [22:32] schestowitz > Ubuntu Community Manager [22:32] schestowitz > , [22:32] schestowitz > and Linux Format columnist [22:32] schestowitz > .* [22:32] schestowitz > [22:32] -TechBytesBot/#techbytes- ( status 404 @ https://web.archive.org/web/20161229083113/http://groups.google.com/d/original/comp.os.linux.advocacy/-/zSMM9XXZUE8J ) [22:32] schestowitz > [22:32] -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-web.archive.org | JonoBacon - Ubuntu Wiki [22:32] schestowitz > https://web.archive.org/web/20191228001555/http://slated.org/taxonomy/term/8 [22:32] schestowitz > [22:32] -TechBytesBot/#techbytes- ( status 404 @ https://web.archive.org/web/20191228001555/http://www.linuxformat.com/archives?issue=138>.* ) [22:32] -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-web.archive.org | Freedom | Slated [22:32] schestowitz > [22:32] schestowitz > The people who dismantle our communities through "managing" them always [22:33] schestowitz > seem to be people who don't even give a shit about the things they exist [22:33] schestowitz > for. That shouldn't be too surprising. [22:33] schestowitz > [22:33] schestowitz > I really don't think Molly gives half a shit about "consent" with [22:33] schestowitz > regards to computing. I really just think she's conflating two things, [22:33] schestowitz > not for computing's sake. [22:33] schestowitz > [22:33] schestowitz > The two things have a lot of real overlap and I love comparisons, but by [22:33] schestowitz > definition conflating two similar things isn't done to assist [22:33] schestowitz > understanding it's to distort truth and ignore key differences. And [22:33] schestowitz > given what I know about managers manipulating communities, I don't think [22:33] schestowitz > I'm just being unfair here. I could be wrong about it, but it's not unfair. [22:33] schestowitz > [22:33] schestowitz > More relevant than ever, not just about the one community he is [22:33] schestowitz > complaining about: [22:33] schestowitz > https://web.archive.org/web/20170714182111/http://slated.org/the_curious_case_of_raspberry_pi_consumerism [22:33] schestowitz > [22:33] -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-web.archive.org | The Curious Case of Raspberry Pi Consumerism | Slated [22:33] schestowitz > [22:33] schestowitz > [22:33] schestowitz > /Much like the Cult of Apple/ [22:33] schestowitz > [22:33] schestowitz > Rotten Raspberry [22:33] schestowitz > [22:33] schestowitz > I find the attitude of many within the Raspberry Pi community to be [22:33] schestowitz > strange and offensive. [22:33] schestowitz > [22:33] schestowitz > I first discovered this odd phenomenon (odd because it contradicts the [22:33] schestowitz > ethos of the project's academic foundations) back when it first started, [22:33] schestowitz > as many within the Raspberry Pi community took an extremely hostile [22:33] schestowitz > attitude toward academic freedom, apparently in defence of various [22:33] schestowitz > parties' highly dubious intellectual monopolies (Broadcom and MPEG-LA, [22:33] schestowitz > for example). [22:33] schestowitz > [22:33] schestowitz > I pointed out the irony and hypocrisy of their attitude at the time, [22:33] schestowitz > explaining that they were more than happy to leech Free (as in freedom) [22:33] schestowitz > Software for their own benefit, but then balked at the prospect of [22:33] schestowitz > freely sharing the results, and in particular this contradicted their [22:33] schestowitz > stated academic goal of facilitating better computer education in [22:33] schestowitz > British schools, an environment that rightly demands open access to [22:33] schestowitz > knowledge. [22:34] schestowitz > [22:34] schestowitz > Some of their arguments were frankly bizarre, including one where it was [22:34] schestowitz > claimed that releasing the sources to Broadcom's VideoCore IV graphics [22:34] schestowitz > would not be useful, since no one outside that company could possibly [22:34] schestowitz > understand it, citing the supposed thousands of man-hours required to [22:34] schestowitz > write it. [22:34] schestowitz > [22:34] schestowitz > This conveniently ignores the fact that the Free Software community has [22:34] schestowitz > written many graphics drivers before, often from scratch using nothing [22:34] schestowitz > but electrical signal analyses of the hardware (clean-room reverse [22:34] schestowitz > engineering). [22:34] schestowitz > [22:42] *Condor has quit (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) [22:44] *Condor (~freenode@e1.nixmagic.com) has joined #techbytes ● Nov 21 [23:12] *GNUmoon2 (~GNUmoon@gateway/tor-sasl/gnumoon) has joined #techbytes [23:12] *GNUmoon has quit (Remote host closed the connection) [23:43] schestowitz https://twitter.com/Sheikh_al_Touar/status/1330269651037790208 [23:43] -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@Sheikh_al_Touar: Been There, Done That: Team UPCs October Becomes Early November and Now Late November #DECEPTION #patents https://t.co/jnpj2H96Vp [23:43] -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@Sheikh_al_Touar: Been There, Done That: Team UPCs October Becomes Early November and Now Late November #DECEPTION #patents https://t.co/jnpj2H96Vp [23:43] schestowitz " [23:43] schestowitz Been There, Done That: Team UPCs October Becomes Early November and Now Late November #DECEPTION #patents #Europe [23:43] schestowitz Been There, Done That: Team UPC's 'October' Becomes 'Early November' and Now Late November [23:43] schestowitz The self-serving litigation fanatics who mislead their customers are still at it; Bristows says that UPC has no issues other than delay [23:43] schestowitz techrights.org [23:43] schestowitz " [23:43] schestowitz The Only Real Dialogue the European Patent Office is Having is With Litigation Parasites, Even Foreign Ones #America #Europe #patents [23:43] schestowitz The Only Real Dialogue the 'European' Patent Office is Having... is With Litigation Parasites, Even... [23:43] schestowitz The EPO's mask falls off again, revealing a ruthless herd immunity-like mentality that welcomes patent trolls, threatens/condemns actual scientists, harms Europe and basically does a disservice to... [23:43] schestowitz techrights.org [23:43] schestowitz Sheikh it Sheikh it [23:43] schestowitz @Sheikh_al_Touar [23:43] schestowitz [23:43] schestowitz 1h [23:43] schestowitz Inside the #EPO During #Corona : #SUEPO (EPO Staff Union) and the Central Staff Committee Blast the Office for Illegal Practices and Threaten Legal Action #patents #Europe #Management #study #Mercer #CambridgeAnalytica #Breibart #EuropeanUnion [23:50] *rianne_ has quit (Quit: Konversation terminated!) [23:50] *rianne_ (~rianne@host81-154-173-112.range81-154.btcentralplus.com) has joined #techbytes